 Very good morning to you and thanks for joining us on the breakfast this morning. My name is Nyamgul Agadjig My name is Vermette Paul Singh. Thank you for joining us this morning Before I make a mistake again. What's today's date? Today's the 12th. Yeah, finally that twelfth I was talking about yesterday So we have almost like a 13 days to Christmas and it's here Ladies and gentlemen, so if you are doing the buying or anything else Make sure that you do it maybe this week because anything beyond this week. We do not know what it's going to be So but Christmas must happen whether we have something new or not Christmas must happen It always comes and even if the national grid collapses Christmas will still happen. Yeah, so I was doing some calculation and it was like for the last 10 years Every month we have one point one five times that the grid will collapse You know because that's collapse like 100 collapse like a 138 times. Yeah 10 years, which is which is terrible Well on the show this morning. We are going to be looking at very interesting topics And first of all is that a co-host team is now negotiating with Niger on return to civil rule and Another topic we'll be looking at is it's barely let's say that Karadolu feature stay governor up on those states That's a question. We're asking this morning And of course, we'll be looking at the papers on of the press to see what the headlines this morning are Once again, good morning and welcome to the break fast. We do hope that you're going to have a swell time Watching us this morning. Yes Okay We'll go straight to the top trending issues Top trending issues. The first one here is that federal government to get 20 million out of school children to school That's according to the Minister of Education. The Minister of Education says it is working to get Nigeria's 20 million out of school children back to school in the next four years the Minister of Education Professor Tahir Malan said this on Monday at the 2024 budget defense before the joint committee of the National Assembly on education in Abuja He noted that the millions of out-of-school children in Nigeria is a major problem for the country The minister said that the ministry had engaged with stakeholders to review Nigeria school curriculum to ensure skills Accusation for students. He encouraged universities to include skills training and entrepreneurship into their curricula to ensure that they Produce self-reliant graduates. Malan noted that a total of 101.45 billion era was allocated for the ministry in 2024 out of which 5.88 billion was for personnel cost 1.08 billion for overhead cost and 94.48 billion era For capital expenditure the chairman house committee on alternative education Reb Aliou Mustafa said that the house was concerned about the rising number of out-of-school children in Nigeria, there are so many things that were said there, but I'm glad that they're saying they're taking Adiquate steps to make sure the 20 million out-of-school children are back to school Even though I have so many questions. Let me hear what you think about it. So I think First we're really right. You're moving around going in traffic and you're sitting in lots of school children Like children are supposed to be in school and they're out there on the streets Begging for alms and stuff and sometimes they don't even have any other thing. They're doing. They're not learning anything In my church, we do like this CSR things that we do like every Christmas whereby we go into communities and we try to help the people there and On Sunday a lot of people were in a summer mood because we watched this video of a community and there was just this lady Who has a school certificate and she teaches about 30 something children? Guess how much they pay put him They pay five thousand now For a term now if you have to go to school Maybe like in the evening if you can afford the one in the morning You pay a hundred now for every time that you have to go and guess what their families who cannot? Even before that a hundred nerds to take their kids to school that evening. So now there are lots of children They're not doing anything. They just wake up Eats if that's even if they have food to eat they roam around and that's it So there is nothing being impacted into their lives. They don't know anything They just know to move around except how to be straight wise Yes, exactly and then maybe the other thing they have to do now is to go to the to try like maybe the streets Begging in traffic and all of that meanwhile these kids are supposed to be in school They're supposed to be learning and these are the leaders of tomorrow as we like to say So what's happening to all of these children and if the government is really really going to? Invest in this and making sure that all the kids that out of school the 20 million of them are going to be back In school that is great because our precedents our governors our innovators are gonna come out from these kids So it's better for us to start investing in their future right now So I think it's commendable, but the question now is is that gonna happen and how many of those kids because I remember In the former administration the first time for boy, they said that we're going to feed You know these kids in school that will come to school and they will have lunch and all of that But we never really see that materialized. Yes, so a lot of times they make these promises They raise our hopes high and then they get dashed again, and I hope that would not be the case for this one Yeah, well anything short of free education. We will not get what they're talking about 20 million people Why are they out? You said something about a hundred Naira a lot of families who will feed on that 100 Naira for a day Yeah in this league or it's not even anywhere else the center of excellence You find those people there like you said the people who are supposed to be fed at the time They were talking about feeding them human was a mount was budgeted for that But we didn't see that in fact at some point I was moving around with the governor of Lagos state And we went to one school on one of these occasions and they were served boil the arm and eggs and You could see the jubilation in the school and I had to ask one of them They've never seen this before that day the governor went that way so Sometimes well, I'll give it to the government as well. Sometimes they make provisions for these people But but the middlemen are the ones that just But it goes a long way to say a lot about about monitoring No matter what you do if there's no mechanism to monitor whatever you're doing then you might just fail it's futile Yes, okay. We're talking about agriculture people returning to agriculture. We don't have They were these agents that used to come to villages and everywhere to teach people how to ties They have to do this thing agricultural extension officers. We don't have them anymore They monitor how people plant their their crops What then teach them the new methods to be used now that we have technology Maybe there could have been the ones to be teaching these people. Yes, they're no longer there There are no longer people who go to schools to monitor What the teachers are doing and how the students are faring and all that Monitoring that yeah, but I like the fact that they said they they need to change the curriculum. Yes involved something like Skills acquisition and all that if they can do that it will be very very good But if we read down that story, there was another point they made that nowadays Schools are producing Unemployable people Now well, yes You could say that but Who among them? I mean the people who are advanced in the age now Had the talent or the the skill when they were being employed for the first time true most times They employ you teach you on the job and you come very good now They want you to be 25 years and you know, I have 10 years of experience I always How am I supposed to have all of these experiences if you've never given me a shot to even learn in the first place? And I understand the fact that they're saying okay They need to change the curriculum to ensure that we have like these skills and acquisitions, but then if you don't so Okay, let me put it this way. I remember when I was much younger I used to have this whole presenting skills and all of that But guess what my school never had that and I'm like, why don't we do this presentation? If you go to other schools, maybe in the US you see them They have like their science project aside, you know submitting it for us We just say oh do this and you submit it then a teacher marks it and that's it But then do you bring the kids out to come and explain? How did you get here that you're already helping them to build your presentation skills? So, okay, like now we're in the technological age as we say the age of technology Right now. Are you teaching them things like you know coding people actually because like Brains are empty, right? So all you have to do is fill it up with the right things if you're teaching them help for me I can't start learning how to code at the moment. I feel like I'm too old for that I'm not that old but yeah, but then for these kids they pick up things Yeah easily and so fast so at the end of the day if you're changing the curriculum Make sure that you're putting things that would you know enable them to be more employable and I think another thing I want to add is the fact that history is really not in our curriculum as we would love for it to have to have to be there We know that's real history Yes, not telling me that Mungo Park came and discovered my villa. No, where were my ancestors? What happened and the the the the Civil War like you know all those kind of things that we really really need to know About Nigeria not the people that came discovered and moved away Real heroes of Nigeria those things need to be added into the curriculum as well as I think it's a whole Overhaul of everything. Yeah, but you're talking about education and people going back to school and all that you go to a Booja who we wear? Everything you know is the melting pot It should be the melting pot because that's the capital of Nigeria You find schools where children sit on the floor There was there was a photograph and some videos a few weeks ago that was showing schools in a booja They had no desk. They had nothing in the school people the children were sitting on the floor and writing in a booja So if it can happen in a booja, then then you imagine what will happen So now more or less the government has just removed education from their list and put in the hands of Private individuals that may not do what they're supposed to do because they are Driven by the business Even if they do it's so pricey that a lot of people cannot afford it too much So I don't know what they're talking about my friend made a joke She's like oh, I want to put my child in crutch around this Neighborhood and she's like why am I paying a millionaire for my child to go and just play in school But at the end of the day because you know that you can't put your child in a public school What are they really getting so you're saying okay? I want to put you in a private school where I'm sure that you know the curriculum is better You're you're learning faster, but guess what that comes at a price the price tag is humongous So how many people in Nigeria can actually afford this education we're talking about well Maybe I'm talking like a poor man, but for a million era. I'll go to NCE Yes to become to be homeschooling that person and a nanny will be there all those people would be covered by that Why will I just send my child to go and play in school? But when you find out that if you don't do that you don't have a good alternative You you go into a primary school a government primary school now one class is holding like 120 And one teacher that has not been paid or is being paid the part or some I have I have a PhD holder Friend who is in the civil service that has not received up to a hundred thousand before So how would you want that person to work just because you have pensions for that person and you're keeping the person there There's pension for you. So government work is better than any other work Because Nigeria is borrowing from the pension fund and the pensioners themselves are not getting their money Some of them go to sleep for how many days because of verification and all that you know, it's it's crazy Well if the government really does this and they do it well because whatever is what they're in is what doing well So as long as they can do this and we're sure and they do it Well, that would be commendable and I think that would be a step in the right direction 94 billion Naira is what has been voted for for whatever you're thinking about because they move the personnel cost the move Any other expenditure what was left for? Capital expenditure as they call it is 94 billion Naira is not dollars And it's still not the percentage of the budget the annual budget as recommended by the United Nations So I don't know what we're talking about, but this thing is possible. They South West did it at the time of our world He said it this must happen and that's why we have like more educated people in the Southwest So Nigeria can replicate that in the entire nation except they don't want to Let's just hope that they do Anyways moving on to another story Nigeria has been thrown into darkness as national grid collapses again Nigeria's electricity grid has once again thrown the country into darkness as the government operator system went down Monday afternoon The system collapsed it's about 1 p.m. Cutting down electricity from 4032 point 80 megawatts at about 12 p.m. To 43 megawatts at 1 p.m An omega walk 303 megawatts at about 5 p.m Most discuss confirmed that your feeders are out even as over 22 Electricity plants on the grid were all reading zero megawatts as of 5 p.m Going by the data available on the transmission company of Nigeria's system network The national grid one of the most embarrassing entities of the power sector has failed many times this year alone even as the grid has collapsed for about 138 times in the last one decade Just recently TCN had rolled out the drums over a misleading celebration of 400 days of no system collapse About two months ago the grid system in a double jeopardy collapsed at about 12 40 a.m. Only to go down again at 6 40 a.m. Six hours interval data on the grid collapse showed that in 2013 the country recorded 24 power system collapses the collapse incident stood at 13 in 2014 in 2015 the grid collapsed after about 10 times in 2016 it rose to 28 while 21 cases were recorded in 2017 grid collapse cases in 2018 2019 2020 and 2021 with 1311 4 and 4 respectively it collapsed about 10 times between 2022 and this year A check in as of 1 p.m. On Monday on Ebon power was left on the grid with 43 megawatts Only a zero was on the grid at 5 p.m. With 303 megawatts a number of distribution companies Disco's confirmed to us that the grid went down it's about 1 p.m. Yesterday So yes, yeah, I don't know Yesterday I was like at about 6 p.m. There was no light. Yeah, there was a flash It was a flash where while we're at work, you know, yes flash and then it went back maybe three minutes or so I was told when I got home, and I don't know it's really embarrassing like they say One of the most embarrassing things we supplied power to some other countries Neighborhood countries countries that are celebrating years of interrupted We are having four hundred days and celebrating and I don't know how they want the international That's not even true because I don't think like I don't even think you go 400 days and you celebrate and I'm not I am sure That you know there were times that it's not only interrupted They're just saying that the grid did not collapse in that 400 yeah So it's not on interrupted power supply because in the last 400 days or in the last one year There's so many times that I've had to you know move over to an alternative power source Which is you know your diesel generators and that's right now is so Expensive and then I just ask myself Are we serious? Are we playing in this country as we like to say because we have so much sunlight? Why are we not exploring that now? We're talking about global warming who knows what our even Niger will dry up God forbid anyway, but what if it it happens? Even if it doesn't happen. Why do we have to rely solely on? Hydro-powered electricity and not consider the solar energy that we have in Abundance, you know, you can't even step out of the house up 28 So if we're going there that means we should be looking at all of these alternatives that we can Bring to the nation. I don't know whether our leaders Well, there are so many words coming that I should not thinking about oil Yeah, I think our leaders are more fixated on oil So they never really, you know move out of the box so other things that we might need but they know these things and They're not doing them You go over to the America they go to the UK they go to every other country that they go to the exploring Solar energy. I think it's a scale of preference type of thing So in the scale of preference, that's probably not on the top Like that's not that doesn't make the list what should be because I tell me is is the way It is because of the power that we have if we had better power steady power and cheap power We would have progressed more than this exactly because a lot of a lot of Companies, you know rely on this even the lady downstairs the person who's selling in a kiosk She also relies on power to be able to chill her drinks because we live in a very hot Environment the weather is so hot and humid So the lady needs, you know power to be able to chill her drinks for you to be able to buy them and be satisfied Needs electricity, you know to cut this yeah needs electricity everyone everyone needs electricity imagine if they're spending so much on petrol or Dizzle that obviously increases the costs of you know, whatever service they're going to give render to you So therefore they're not even going to make as much money for the nation How much do you spend on diesel per month? So last month I spent a hundred and seventy thousand and I live in a very small Matt would I I would say matchbox, but a very, you know, small and Seven thousand in a country that has National power whatever it and we supply to some neighboring countries too Okay There are people who will be looking at you like oh, that's like five months salary for me Because truly there are people who are earning 15,000 20,000 and Maybe honestly, honestly this previous month. I even told my neighbors I'm like, I'm not sure I want to do this because he started from from 80,000 Then he went to a hundred one twenty one fifty last month and this month was a hundred and seventy And I'm like, where are we going to at some point we'll get to the we'll get to a place where we have to 250 how much am I making that I'm spending so much money on just power alone and that's even an alternative power We're not talking about what I'm paying to, you know The power holding company as well. And then I have to pay my rent. I have to feed I have to feel my car But there's a lot Nigerians work. Well done Nigerians. We are going through a lot You move to My move to my father's house in Ikoru do at this point See that's the reason a lot of people go through the kind of stress they go through, you know People come from Ogun state All the way to come and work in Lagos state and pay tax in Lagos state and Lagos state is just comfortable after all They're still coming here. They need Lagos to survive But what are you doing to make sure that these people are comfortable enough now We've gone to cop 28. We've gone to other places and told the world that we are going to produce We're going to supply a hundred electric box boxes. We are going to and that is a hundred buses Even Lagos be RT is more than a hundred Maybe the one that starts with this since it's just electric block buses So if you're looking at electricity power in these buses, you know, okay, let's start small and then let's see how we go Sorry, I always have to make a Let me not even say what I intended to say, but this final one is just a very fast one last mass acts five officials for Corruption and other offenses the Lagos state traffic management authority has terminated the appointment of five office officials For corruption and other offenses in a statement on Monday by last month spokesman Adebayo Tuafic The traffic management authority said letters of termination of appointments were released to the officers on December 8th 2023 good thing last month every other Agency should sit up and make sure that the bad eggs within them should be removed and I'm still talking about this bombing that happened Let us see people Answering for their their mistakes. Yes, and so many other things I don't know even warned that they should compensate all the families. Yes in the last decade. They have been so many Errors like this. Yes, it's so wrong, but aside compensation I think you must pay you must their consequences were set in actions, right? So you can't just just go squat free and say, oh, it happened. Oh, sorry a pattern the back. Oh, well done And that's it. No removed but the thing is the last time the last administration of President Mohammed the Buhari the Service chiefs were said to be very corrupt and so many reports damning reports came out Guess what they were removed and then given ambassadorial positions in other countries So what that tells you is it's almost like you're rewarding corruption or you're rewarding bad behavior Because if an error like this could happen, right? Maybe for the book the cardinal bombing we're talking about an error could happen and nothing is being done Tell me she's telling the other people the subordinates that it's okay You can do it as well and nothing will happen and whether they know the right. Yes So it's a cycle. It's a vicious cycle. It just keeps happening people are corrupt and you're not saying anything about you You're like, oh, it's fine. We'll see it under the carpet You are rewarding bad behavior and you're letting them know that it is okay to do it and nothing happens to you so and I think You know if they remove these people like for the last more officials now It's a great thing because that serves as a stern warning to others like if you do this this these are the Consequences of these actions and when that happens, I'm sorry We have to let you go and in fact you'll be disgraced your face will be on national TV. Police. Are you hearing? Well, the police does it and you know, but the culprits the greatest culprits we know about this corruption the policemen On the on our roads and everywhere else. Sometimes the police Removes these people, but I think they should even do more. I don't know how they do it except Somebody complains about it and the person is lucky for that threat to go viral. They don't act on it Yes, so sometimes let the PR or some other people who are High up they go in Mufti and see what their office is doing exactly and then when they do that They can take some actions and name and shame Yeah, when the see when others see that you might be dealing with a police officer In Mufti because you're doing one or two things they will sit up at all But, you know, definitely one day one as we say All right, we'll go on a short break and when we return we'll be looking at what the national dailies are saying this morning in Of the press stay with us