 I think the thing in tournaments is more so it's the obviously risk of knockout, it's what's on the line for it and I get like the nationals that would say that that has like brings in that element but I don't know maybe people just like when you look at the friends who we're using to play I know we've played Brazil and we should still that's pretty sick don't we that's sick we played Brazil that's that's what I was thinking out of this international break is two big games yeah Brazilian Belgium on paper people should be like what an international break for England this is yeah like I'm excited to watch that yeah so and but it is again it's just not paid off that way I think most people have speak to it on the same vibe of not really liking international breaks and I don't feel like that's changed even though they are two big games it feels to me like for anyone who's interested in watching watches any sort of American sports you know how like they have all-star weekends yeah and you can like it's fun it's a nice idea like you know people rate the all-star games or whatever whether it's in basketball or ice hockey or NFL or whatever but you can tell that like no one's trying no one cares like it's just very much like an exhibition no one's like no one's putting their body on the line which then means that the fans actually aren't massively invested themselves yeah nobody's nobody's going home and crying if you know team a all-star a or team all-star b sort of win or lose yeah whatever it's a completely neutral kind of game in it like and I think it's the same with like international friendlies for England is like when you see players not really putting in there at all like you can tell that like you know players are going oh like if I feel a niggle I'm coming off because I've got to be good for you know like car walk yeah reserve himself reserve themselves exactly like they're trying not to go heavy on challenges because they don't want to injure themselves or others ahead of big friendlies stuff like last night jubeling and getting sucked off at like the 60 minute mark it's like singlin versus brazil at wemberley and you're taking off you know one of the star players because it's just kind of like oh like needs the rest it's like okay well if if the players and if england and if international teams and if international managers and the whole sort of organizations are are going to sort of run it at like a 40 percent capacity then like you can't expect fans to be any more excited that the fans the fans will be kept at that like that affects if they're if they're willing to not half ask it but if they're willing to take I mean if they're not putting their all out for them games fans aren't going to match that they're not going to go all in for it they're not going to get as excited for it because we as fans know that this isn't this is it's just a normal game where yeah he could pick any side he could pick a completely changed side you don't really know like what you're going to see when you're going to go to them games yeah and that brings me back to sort of that whole first nations leagues I remember we had one game I can't remember if it was like because I can't really remember the format to be honest in the nations league but I think it was maybe like the last game in the group stage and it was against Spain and maybe there was like there was some meat on the bone in terms of qualification or getting through to an x-round or something I remember because sterling scored two goals but that game was like so beefy like everyone was putting it up for it I don't know if you remember but Eric Dyer like made this tackle in Spain's box against Sergio Ramos and it was like an absolute just like crunching tackle your Brexit tackle pure Brexit tackle and again like technically it was all like kind of friendly like not major tournament but because it was like they were playing for something there was like a little bit of I don't know it gets us top of the group it gets us through to the next round all of a sudden they put a bit more in so it's like the nations league can up it or things like that can up it I just don't know what UA for a sort of doing with it it feels sort of half cooked at the moment yeah I think obviously for us as well like as like fans of England we don't play the greatest of football either so if we play just really nice football I think like fans over here I think we get excited for internationals to get to seeing them play some nice football we don't really see it was playing nice football so yeah but that's it it's just as odd isn't it because like you sort of said in your opening statement of the question sort of when I asked you I'm not like a big England fan like we all are when it comes to international tournaments oh yeah yeah I had but like I'm getting a British Bulldog tattooed on my forearm taking my shirt off getting down the pub at 10 a.m like when it's a tournament yeah I've got I've got the Red Cross painted on my body like we're really in that yeah you forget where it was yeah it is fully coming home I'm on the train like every single Instagram stories me and a beer garden like getting way too busy on a Tuesday absolutely so like the whole nation unites at that so yeah it's like for one month every two years it completely takes over the nation and we're all huge fans but then just like international breaks could not be less interested don't really care yeah I just I don't see a way that they'll ever replicate that either like that because that together this is well that's no no of course but I mean just even just something to bring a bit of excitement into it like because even in I think I think what it is because it's in between the Premier League season people just want prime football at this time yeah and when you're in the thick of it and then you go oh an international break like oh fuck well you think of international football and you think of summer football don't you yeah you think of that's where you want to be watching when I think of England I think of like beer gardens beer gardens like 25 degrees show yeah yeah share on that's exactly it that's that's the vibe that you want when you're watching England games yeah yeah fair enough well