 Okay. So let's get started. I just want to read from accept20 and x20 and verse 32, where Paul is, you know, talking to the efficient leaders, right? And he's he's like, he's seeing them for the for the last time, actually, like, Paul had spent almost three years with them. And But right now, he's meeting them. He's meeting them for the last time. After that, he'll go to Jerusalem and then he'll be, you know, He'll be He'll be imprisoned and then be put in the house arrest and he'd be martyred finally, right? So it's the last time. So he's actually giving them some very important valid instructions, right? So we'll be looking at verse 32 and he says, So now brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of his grace. Okay. So after giving them some instructions, he's saying, I'm commending you, I'm presenting you. It's like I'm handing over you, right? So far, I spent three years with you and teaching, you know, and earlier on, you'll see that he's saying, I kept back verse 20, I kept back nothing that was helpful and proclaimed it to you and taught you publicly and from house to house and so on. And so he's saying, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm committing you, right? Presenting you to God, I'm just handing over you to God and to the word of his grace. And he's, you know, and he says about what the word of God and what God himself will do in their lives. He's saying the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, right? Which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all who are sanctified. And so verse 32 is saying that this, you know, this is one important thing I need to do. I'm leaving, but I'm going to do this for you. I commit you, I'm committing you to God and to his word, which is able to build you up, right? So, so we realize that God's word, of course, we read, we are refreshed, we are strengthened. God's word is something that can build us up, right? And even as we present ourselves willingly to God, God's word builds us up and gives us, you know, gives us or makes access or opens a door for the inheritance, the spiritual inheritance that we receive from him, right? As able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all the saints, right? So, you know, as we pray and start, let's just say, Lord, I present myself, I yield myself to you and to the word of your grace, right? Let the entrance of your word bring light, let your word build faith in me. I just yield myself, I receive that and give myself wholeheartedly to you so that there might be, there might be edification and there might be progress in my life, spiritual progress in my life. Okay, let's pray, right? Father, we thank you, Lord, or even as we see here, Lord, now that we, we present ourselves, we commit ourselves or give ourselves to you, submit ourselves to you and to the word of your grace, which is able to build us up, edifiers and give us an inheritance among all the saints. Father, we thank you that there are certain things that we do in the natural and which we fail miserably because it's only you and your word can bring about in our lives, God. And we commit all the areas of our lives into your mighty hands, Lord, and we submit to the Lordship, your Lordship and to, oh God, and we esteem your word higher than anything else in our lives, Father God, and may your word, Lord, build us up and may your word, Father God, open our hearts, open our lives to the inheritance, to the riches, Lord, revelations, the inheritance that we have in you in Christ Jesus. We thank you, we give you all the praise and glory in Jesus' match, His name we pray. Amen, amen. Okay, so we, so this semester, again, two more, two hours every week, actually two hours, both the subjects, yeah, so two hours every week on inner wholeness, right? So inner wholeness, well, this deals with the area of our soul or our emotions, and also talks about God's perspective about it, right? How does God see us? Is God interested in our emotions? God interested in our emotional wellbeing, our emotional health? And how does that affect our life, right? Because we can, you know, we can be saying, you know, I'm a strong person physically, strong person, you know, with regard to faith and so on. And I have these, you know, intense desires and I'm very sincere about these things. But then, if they're in the area of our emotion or emotional health, if that is not healthy, right? If that is not, maybe some of the challenges are not dealt with, then that becomes a barrier. That becomes a hindrance, that becomes a barrier. And as, you know, as a child of God, it can be very frustrating, right? As a child of God, because we know that, we know who we are, okay, because that is what God is pronouncing us to be. You know, we know that we are sons and daughters of God. We know that we are seated with Him in the heavenly places in Christ. We know that we have the authority that God gives us and so on. But practically living it out, it can be very frustrating if this area of our lives is not dealt with, is not healed, is not healthy. So it could be with areas of, you know, we're going to look at some of these challenges. It could be, you know, a self of insecurity, a sense of maybe low self-esteem. It could be anger, it could be fear, it could be the feeling of inadequacy and so on, right? Maybe some addictions and lusts and all that. So we will look at that and see, okay, what is it that God, how has God, how does God want to empower us and heal us and overcome these things in our own lives? Okay, so let me just share the notes. The notes are there in the stream again, or in-person class, physical notes, I think will be made available a little later, right? Okay, so that's the scope of the course. Evaluation and assessment will be two graded quizzes, right? One in the beginning, one towards the end of the course, so that's the plan. Okay, let's look at chapter one and chapter one deals with the problems of the soul. Okay, you just now had the course on developing the human spirit, right? And we're looking at, I'm sure you would have studied about the tripod being that God has created us to be, right? 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 23, let's read that. It says, now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, right? So God of peace sanctify, sanctify means to set us apart, okay, completely. And it says, may your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Okay, so we learn a lot of things about how we are created. We learn a lot of things about how God wants us, what is God's heart for us, right? So all that comes through in this verse. So 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 23 is talking about, okay, that man and as human beings, we are made spirit, soul and body. And in the Greek, we see words like pneuma used for spirit and then, you know, suke, which is used for soul, from which we get the whole thing of psychology and so on. Everything that deals with the mind, the will, the emotions, imaginations, intellect and everything, right? Then he talks about the body. Now, what is God's heart saying that let your spirit, soul and body be preserved, right? Be preserved meaning, let there be no injury to it. Let there be no damage to it, okay? And preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. So he's talking about God's heart, God's will for every human being to be preserved in this manner. Which means, you know, you have questions like, okay, you know, does God want me to suffer in this way? Does God want me to continue to, you know, be in this way? God's heart is that he wants this, that our spirit, soul and body to be preserved, meaning protected, guarded, whole in Christ Jesus. Till he comes again, right? Okay. So, another verse that we see Genesis 2 and verse 7 says that God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a human being, okay? So that is what we see. We see that, okay, God breathed, God put something of himself in us, right? So that is why we are eternal beings even, right? We have our spirit, the spirit of man lives for eternity. It depends where we live or how we spend eternity. It depends on the choice that we make about Jesus, right? But because God created us in this manner and he breathed something, we are eternal spirit beings, right? And of course, 1 Thessalonians 5-23 talks about how we are made and God's heart for us. One other verse which deals with, which talks very clearly about God's heart for us is this, pre-John verse 2. Okay, we will study this in our financial stewardship class, right, first year. So he says, pre-John 2, beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health just as your soul prospers, right? And in the Greek, the word suke is used there. I believe he's saying, I pray that you may prosper in all things, right? And he's actually praying that, John is praying that over the people, over the church and he's saying that you may prosper in all things and be in health just as your soul prospers. So when you say prosper, what does it mean? Sorry, to flourish, yeah, to flourish to thrive, right? So it's not just getting by, right? So prosper means that let it just be fertile and thrive and flourish and be in health, right? So that is God's will for us that in all areas of our lives that we would prosper and be in health. Okay, so even as we pray or even as we look at our own lives, we can say that, okay, if there is something that is, okay, in the area of our mind with emotions, there seems to be something that is not right. Then God's heart is that it need, it can actually flourish, it can actually thrive, right? Okay, so, and also another thing that we see in this verse is that there is, there seems to be a connection, right? There seems to be a connection between the spirit soul and the body. Yes, the inner man is the real man. We are the inner person is the real person. And we see that there is a connection. Okay, how do we know that? It says that I pray that you may prosper and be in health just as your soul prospers. So your soul prospering is connected to giving us prospering, physically prospering, you know, especially everything. Because we see, practically we see that, okay, a person might be okay, physically strong. But if emotionally they are down, then it affects them, right? They could, you know, doctors can't find anything wrong with their body. That's fine. But then they are unable to do the things that they want to do because emotionally they are down. Maybe there is fear or depression or whatever, you know. So that is something that we see that it's interconnected. Or if they are down physically, it affects them emotionally as well. You know, we know for sure, right? Okay, let's look at the soul. So this course is about that, right? About emotional health. So when we look at this word soul, it refers to our mind will emotions. Okay, so we need to have that just a reiteration of what we know already, what we studied already. So it's a, you know, it's comprised of our mind, our will, our emotions, our intellect and so on. So even our memory, our imagination, our creativity, everything comes out of that, right? So when we look at spirit, we know that is the inner man, right? The Bible talks about the heart of man, talks about the spirit of man. And many times in the Old Testament, the word that is used there for heart refers to both spirit and soul together. Like how do we know that? You know, for example, if you look at this verse, Genesis 6, okay. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth. And that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Right? So it's talking about the inner man, but it's also talking about, you know, this ability of reasoning and imagination and thoughts of the heart. Everything is continually evil. So sometimes it's used for spirit and soul together, right? Like in the Greek, we see that spirit, soul and body and that was known with very strict differentiation. But we see that in the Old Testament, it's used both together, right? And then of course, the flesh refers to, you know, that's also another thing that we need to think about. The flesh would refer to the physical flesh, the physical body, but also refers to the appetites of the body, which are not in line with God, which is not honoring God or appetites of the body which are not satisfied in God-honoring ways or God-ordained ways, the flesh. The flesh would also mean it could be an unrenewed mind. That's also, you know, say fleshly thinking, which means that the mind is not renewed to the spirit. The mind is not renewed to the word of God, and therefore it's a fleshly thinking, right? So we see that. Galatians 5 talks about the works of the flesh, okay? And it's not a very pretty list, right? So Galatians 5 verse 19, just before Paul talks about the fruit of the spirit, he talks about the works of the flesh, right? Saying the works of the flesh are these lists out, adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, everything. And, you know, he talks about those who practice these things. And so it starts with saying these are the works of the flesh, okay? So we're just looking at, you know, all these different terminologies and the differences and so on, and the connection as well, right? Between this, okay. So what is the difference between the brain and the soul? Brain and the soul. So see, so when he says soul, we're talking about mind, will, emotions, intellect. And the brain does the same thing. So is there a difference or is it the same? Is it just a different word? Brain is connected. Brain is connected to the, yeah. So yeah, yeah, true. Like the brain is the organ, the physical organ, right? It's like a processor, there's a lot of computations, tells the mind, I mean, tells the body what to do, processes, all our inputs, right? Everything happens there. So when a person dies, the spirit goes to be with the Lord. And the brain anyway goes to the earth, decays, the physical organ decays. But we see that, well, you know, will the person be able to recognize Jesus? Will the person carry memories of the earth, whatever they did? And when we look at scripture, we see that, yeah, they did, right? Which means the soul, which is mind, will, emotions, imaginations, memory, all that, is something which is part of the spirit man, right? Which also has an eternal capacity to live beyond the physical, yeah. Nina, yes, brain is a part of the body and it will operate according to what it is fed with, yeah. So that's the thing that we need to understand about the soul, that it goes beyond our time here. It's not the physical organ that we are talking about, right? So if you look at, you know, Hebrews 412, right? Porter, when he's talking about the Word of God, 412, for the Word of God is living, powerful, sharper than any two-edged sword. Piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, which means that, hey, it's a very integral part, but the Word of God is able to pierce even to the division of soul and spirit. And he goes on to say, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of thoughts and intents of the heart. Yeah, so which means, he's actually describing, okay, this is the function of the soul, this function of the spirit. But the Word of God is able to discern what is coming from our spirit man and also what is coming, what is soulish in nature, right? What is, maybe, you know, when you say soul, it would also be unrenewed or renewed thinking, right? So he's talking about that. So the Word of God is so powerful, it's able to even distinguish, okay? So, you know, just for us to know the differentiation. Now, yeah, okay, okay, and brain is more, sorry, thank you. Anthony, brain is more logical, more physical, but the soul completely is going beyond the physical. Yes, that's true. Yeah. So the soul is part of the spirit. I mean, this is how I imagine it. It's that it's, you know, it's part of the spirit covered by the spirit and it has the eternal nature to it. And therefore, it goes beyond our time here on the earth when our physical body is no more and goes to dust. The soul will, because it's part of the spirit, sorry, it will continue to be there. We will continue to have our memory or, you know, everything there. Okay. Then, so the soul, there can be, you know, it has many advantages, right? Because if our mind is renewed, then we see that our actions are renewed. Like, whatever we do is, sorry. So if our mind is renewed, if our thinking is renewed, then our actions are renewed. We are able to grasp what the spirit of God is putting in our hearts. So it has, you know, it has a very important role to play in a believer's life. Okay. So that is why we're talking about Romans 12, Romans 1 and 2. Be transformed. Be transformed. You know, transformation is the big thing, the big change, right? Where we cannot recognize stage one and stage 10 maybe. And if you say there are 10 stages to a transformed life, we are not able to recognize that. It's like that Greek word, metamorphous, from which we get metamorphosis, right? So the caterpillar to the butterfly. So it's a very powerful thing. And that transformation is possible when our mind is renewed to truth. Because when our mind is renewed to truth, then our actions, our speech, our imagination, everything changes, right? And we see transformation in our life, right? But what if it is renewed negatively, right? You see the extent of what can happen. The extent of damage that can bring about, that can be brought about in a person's life, right? So we're talking about, you know, these kind of problems or challenges. So, yeah, so some examples could be hatred, depression, uncontrolled fear, worry or anxiety. So these are challenges, problems, and it's in the realm of our soul, right? Realm of our soul. Okay, for example, okay, let's say behaviors and choices. If the person has a compulsive behavior. Okay, so it's not something to do with the physical nature, but it's obviously something, something more, right? For example, I, you know, came to know of someone who was, who had a compulsive behavior to wash their hands, right? How often do you wash your hands in a day? Okay, so we're thinking, okay, how many times, you know, but the thing is this person had this compulsion to wash, you know, every other minute is washed, come and then felt that it's dirty. I need to wash again, go and wash and not just wash, you know, just scrub and wash and so on. So leave the house, want to leave the house, okay, I need to wash my hands or you touch anything, I need to wash it, right? So, so much so that the hand would be very, like the skin would be, you know, pink in color because just keep washing, keep washing, keep washing. And it's a, it's a very, you know, I mean, it's a very sad thing, right? So it's not always a place of fear. No, I touch something, oh, I need to wash it. It's not a, you know, it's a challenge. It's something to do with the mind and something to do with the emotional well-being of that person, right? So something addictive, something compulsive, you know, a mild version of that is what we would see, what we would call as a, you know, mild, sorry, like OCD or obsessive compulsive desire. Like, sometimes we lock the door and we want to shake it and see, you know, is it really long, you know, or maybe you want to go in the lift. It's already pressed, but you want to press it two, three times. So you're making sure it'll, you know, go to where you want to go, etc. You know, these are mild things. It's okay. But then, you know, sometimes it can be very, very compulsive so that you're not able to live a normal life, right? It hinders, hampers you from living a normal life as a believer, as a human being, right? All your normal functioning is hampered because of it, right? Then there is a problem, right? What about emotional well-being? Okay, so we're talking about behaviors, choices, emotional well-being. The person has maybe fear, anxiety, you know, feeling that in every situation, you know, I'm the victim. Everybody's against me in whatever situation, you know? So, you know, let's say a work kind of a situation, they're okay. The whole world is against me, the work, you know, the boss is against me, the whole world is against me. Okay, move from that place, that environment or that company to another place. Same situation over and over again, you know, they're against me. And sometimes we try to spiritualize it saying, okay, I'm being persecuted, right? And the thing is that there's a challenge, right? And maybe it's a low self-esteem or something like that and the victim mentality. I'm saying that this is what it is. Everybody's against me, everybody's doing this for me and I'm day in and day out. This is what I'm going through, right? And so it would result in problems when it comes to relationships, right? So, you're not able to, that gets, you know, that gets affected as well, you know, in what way? You know, some people can become very manipulative, right? People can become very dominating, right? And so on, you know, because you feel, let's say a person feels unworthy all the time, okay? Unworthy. So they will do something in order to feel worthy. Maybe in, you know, in a setting with friends or with family, they're constantly feeling unworthy. So they want to feel worthy, so they would try and do something in order to feel worthy. Okay, so it could be, I don't know, they change the way they speak, they change the way they do things. And it could also be, you know, in a way to put down people. Let's say I put you down, right? And I put you lower, maybe with my actions, with my speech, and I say things to put you down. And then I'm feeling like, okay, now I'm actually above this person. I'm, you know, I'm at a higher place than this person. Or I have to prove to you that maybe you're skilled in something. I prove to you that I'm better than you, so that I can feel better. And sometimes, and then when you think about it, it comes from a place of very, very insecurity and which arising from a place of being, you know, unworthy, right? That is so deeply ingrained, you know, I'm feeling unworthy, I'm feeling very low. So therefore I do something in order to, in order to even win appreciation from people, approval from people, right? So I do things, I say things and then everybody claps and wow, today I'm feeling good. Tomorrow, bad mode, why? Nobody clapped. Nobody gave a compliment, nobody said any good things, I'm feeling. So it's like a roller coaster ride, you know, and feeling down and then up and down and up and down. So we see that these are challenges, right? And then it affects our relationships. Sometimes it could be our life experiences, like constant failure, it could maybe unfaithfulness that we have experienced or it could also manifest in unfaithfulness to our, you know, in all our relationships and so on. Physical health, that's the thing. What happens in our soul realm or regard to emotions, it manifests in our physical life or physical, you know, like stress, for example. If there's intense stress, continuous stress, it manifests itself physically. How? Lack of sleep, right? Because you lie down and you're not able to sleep because your mind is racing, you know, thinking about the problem. You're not necessarily solving it, but it's going over and over again. You know, you're playing that scene over and over again, what if kind of scene or it could even be hurt and anger and you're replaying that scene over and over again. That person said this or it could be even like, you know, I need to say this or I should have said this. Imagine any conversations. This person said, I should have said this. I should have done this over and over again. And it affects our physical health. It could be maybe not being able to sleep and it could also manifest itself in some kind of physical things. It could be maybe some kind of even skin conditions, right? Your skin is because of the sweat. Doctors call it like psychosomatic, right? Because of the things that are going on in our mind, it shows itself in the body, right? It could be psychosomatic, which means, you know, something not, it's not because of the physical nature, but it's because of the emotional things and, you know, insomnia, sleeplessness, maybe some rashes and skin conditions, et cetera. So because of stress and so on, okay? Props 15-13, right? It says, a merry heart makes a cheerful countenance, okay? So internally, your spirit is rejoicing. Your soul is joyful. A merry heart makes a cheerful countenance. You see it physically, but by the sorrow of the heart, the spirit is broken, okay? See, it's all interconnected again, right? Look at the other words, Props 17 and verse 22. A merry heart does good like medicine, okay? So internally, you know, you're good, you're thriving. It is like medicine. It's having a positive effect or a healing restorative effect on your body. But a broken spirit dries the bones, meaning it is affecting physically. It dries the bones, meaning there's, you don't feel like doing anything. You know, you feel like, you don't feel like getting up. And you're just waiting when you, you know, get up and it's like, oh, it's morning. I wish I can go back to bed again. But then you go back to bed and you're wishing, oh, I wish it'll be morning again. You know, it's like an ever-ending cycle, right? So we see that these are challenges of the soul realm or the emotions and it affects relationships, human relationships. It affects our body physically. It affects all realms of our life, all aspects of our life. Okay. So what are the... Okay, let's go to chapter two. What are the... Any questions? Sorry, before we go forward. Yeah. We've said that like, first of all, our spirit carries the soul, like spirit and soul. Our integral, integrated. Even soul is like eternal because we have these memories, we have these emotions. Right. We can feel, but we have also learned that even our spirit has the emotions taste. Correct. Correct. So is it actually the feelings of our spirit or is it the soul? Yeah. So that is why the word of God, having the word of God is important, having a rich deposit of the word because the word can actually distinguish, bring about the discernment. And if our mind is renewed to the truth of God's word, then that processing becomes sharper. Because what is in our spirit is processed by our soul. Right. So we process in our mind. So we receive... Let's say we receive a revelation and we... Is it of God? Is it not of God? Okay. So the discernment comes when our mind processes it, but when it's renewed to the truth of God's word, then it's, you know, your accurate accuracy or even the rejection of it happens. And that is why Hebrews 412 talks about the fact that the word of God is able to, you know, much sharper even to the division of soul and spirit, the intense of the heart and the thoughts of the... Intense of the mind and thoughts of the heart. So you're able to distinguish between the things. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. So we looked at problems in life, which happened because of problems in the soul. Right. And so, which means that... So when we address this, we actually address the problem. Right. When we address this meaning that this is the root of it. So it's not about behavior modification. You know, many times we try to... Change our behavior or at least try to change our behavior, right? And we... And even with, you know, maybe it's with others, we say, okay, we try to... I'm not saying that rules or guidelines are not important. They are important for some kind of harmony in society and so on. But then if you put a person in prison and then you release them, that's not going to solve unless there is transformation. Change in their thinking. And that is why, you know, a lot of ministry that happens in prison and praise God for some of the changes that happen. You know, the education that goes on and the people are changed. People are educated. People are informed. And then also, you know, educated in the sense spiritually. So they get to encounter truth and there is a change. So in that sense, you know, there is transformation. When they come out, then the whole thing changes, whole life changes. Right? So it's... No, no, no. That we will look specifically into, you know, building up the spirit man with the word of God and also, I think praying in tongues and, you know, all those other aspects of it. Yeah. But here we will look at how to address the problem of the soul, how to be healed of those, you know, emotional things. Yeah, it'll overlap. Yes. Oh, yeah. I know that. Yes. They will be overlap. Yeah. Okay. So Nina's question is, while the soul and the spirit are closely connected as they are, what goes to heaven after physical... What goes to heaven after physical death? Is it possible to be soulish while on earth? Meaning without the influence of the spirit man? Yeah, definitely. It is possible because, you know, what we actually feed our spirit, what we feed our soul, you know, it's... We take responsibility for it. And that is why life transformation, you know, we... God has given us that responsibility. Yes, our spirit man is born again. Doesn't have, you know, he's removed that. He's put to death the old man, the old nature. But when it comes to the soul, God has given us... The Lord has given us the responsibility to take the truth and renew our thinking with the truth. So it is possible to be soulish when you say soulish. You know, we're talking about functioning with the unrenewed thinking, unrenewed imaginations, unrenewed emotions. Yes, it is possible. And that's where the problem is. For the believer, you call yourself a Christian and you're behaving like this. Where's the problem here, right? Yeah. I hope that helps, Nina. Any other questions beyond that? Yeah, if there are other questions, that is why it's necessary for... Yes, true. That's true. That's where our mind is to be renewed by the truth of God's Word. So in this renewal, we will... we see transformation. Transformation, primarily in our thinking, which affects our emotions, which affects our actions. And it's an ongoing thing. And the proof of it is transformation. Yeah. Okay, so, yeah. So it's like... so is it like our soul, our spirit, like when we are born again? Our spirit is like set apart. It's like our old man was dead and a new man was inside of us, new creation. New creation in our spirit. But our soul is not and it can be influenced to both good and bad. Yes. True, yeah. Yeah, so when we say we are born again, our spirit man is now... is alive. You know, what Ephesians talks about, that we are made alive. So we are made alive, we are sensitive, we are able to hear the voice of the spirit and everything. And all that happens. For the first time, we realize, hey, I'm praying and I know that there's a sense of knowing that it happened. I'm a child of God. All that happens in our inner man. And it's because of the fact that we are new creations. And yes, when it comes to the soul, needs to be... That is why we say, okay, we grow from maturity to... I'm sorry, immaturity to maturity. And that's the process that happens of renewing our mind. And the thing is that it need not be a long process. It just depends on the individual surrenders and yields and says, okay, this is what I'm going to do. Yeah. Is there a possibility for a person like who is not renewed in his thinking and he was living soulish to make his spirit dead again or... See, the thing is this, right? You... Okay, so let's say you're saying... So what you're saying is that a person is living a carnal life, which means fleshly minded, carnal minded, not on the things of the... So actions also follow. Rebuilding against God, doing the things that are dishonoring God. And at the... What happens there, you're actually opening the door spiritually for the enemy to attack, right? And you're placing yourself in a very vulnerable position, right? You're moving away from God's jurisdiction, right? So what happens is that person can come to a place like Bible talks about having their conscience seared. Hebrews talks about that. Now these are people who have their conscience seared, seared meaning that it's hardened. So you come to a place of being having a conscience seared and you can yourself... Now that's what Hebrews again talk about, that person can actually reject Christ. So Hebrews 10, I think, right? Where it says, yeah, if we sin willfully after we have received Hebrews 10, 26, after we have received the knowledge of truth, there is no longer remains a sacrifice, but a certain fearful indignation. So he's talking about anyone, verse 28, anyone who was rejected, Moses, Lord dies, okay, without mercy. How much more worse punishment do you suppose? Will he be thought worthy? So this is all that person has done. A believer, right, who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, countered the blood of the covenant by which he was, sanctified the common thing, right? And insulted the spirit of grace, okay? It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the... into the living God. And then it says, verse 39, but we are not of those who draw back to perdition. What does that mean? Verse 30, we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul, okay, which means that, hey, this person can actually make a choice, consistent choice to draw back, to reject the Son of God, to insult the spirit of grace, and count the blood by which he was sanctified, a save, to be a very common thing, and do all that. A person can go to that place. But can I... So the question is this, no? Can I make the judgment and say, this person is not saved now? Exactly. So that's the thing. I cannot make a judgment. So can a person be, you know, come to that place of just rejecting, and we know potentially it's possible. But when that happens, can I take that call and evaluate and assess that, yes, this has happened? Exactly. So that is the thing. I don't know. I guess they might know that. They know that. Because obviously, when we are... Obviously, we... because of guilt, they are times where we go back... So there are times when we... There are times where we'll go back to God, and there are times we hold ourselves because of regret or because of pain, or because of the emotional being of that person. And sometimes it continues, and sometimes they get numb. Like, they can't... Maybe they get hard enough. Hard enough. And even sometimes, even if they want to go, they can't able to. Even if they want to, they are not able to because they... See that the very fact, even if they want to, that's the glimmer of hope. Right? Which means that, it talks about how the spirit lusts against the... how the flesh lusts against the spirit, and there is that tension of whatever is off the spirit, it's against the flesh. There is that tension. So as long as there is that battle even, it's... Yeah. But even if there's, you know, if you're seared and then for a season, they're just living this kind of life, we know that the Spirit of God is constantly reaching out. We know that the Spirit of God is able to save to the atom most, provided they respond, of course. But the Spirit of God, God will always be reaching out, will always provide circumstances and bring them to a place of decision. But the decision is this. But he will always bring them to a place of decision. Sovereignty, dreams, isn't it? The person may not say, but then maybe in hindsight they might say, okay, this is what happened. Why am I saying this? Because it happened in my life. Right? Because I was living a double life as a believer, as a spirit filled, you know, very well knowing the truth. I was living that, but Spirit of God never gave up through the most unlikely of sources. It's always reaching out, always reaching out. Always providing a decision. I was saying, yes, no, yes, no. For many times it was just, no, no, no, but then he's always reaching out. Right? Yeah. Okay, we shall stop here and then come back to chapter 2. Right? Thank you.