 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump with your hosts Sal DiStefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews in this episode of Mind pump for the first 29 minutes We have a nice time Bullshitting like we normally do we talked about my favorite part one of the greatest movies of all time The never-ending story And how we show our kids these old movies and how they usually crap on them Adam talks about is a great Documentary series on HBO called the defiant ones. He kind of identifies with it because of the title He's a defiant one himself. We also talk about being part of the 1% and teaching the value of money to our kids and kids and Swearing we've we think our kids might be starting to say bad words and then we talk about the first time shit We got caught saying bad words now. 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You already feel it is just like a tail Nevering story. God. Yes. He's so good never ending story. That's the never-ending story Did you watch that movie I did like when I was fucking seven what? Yeah, I don't I don't remember it That song was like stuck in everybody. Yeah, I definitely don't remember the song. That's crazy See Yes, yeah, I don't know the words, you know what I'm realizing about you Justin mean you have a lot in common I know we remember random shit. It's like totally random. Yeah, you also remember fucking like super like specific Articles that's different. I just just so happened to like get a podcast. I can make use of it Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, but before that I didn't it was fucking way. It was good in conversation I'm still trying to find my superpower. Yeah Jingles, okay. Yeah, see, you know, this is why I always compare myself to Joey, you know from a full house Because he was like the jingle guy. I swear a guy missed my calling like I could come up with like stupid ass songs and sell shit You kind of have you kind of have some more mannerisms as him, too. Yeah. Yeah, you guys have some more Just don't I'm not that dorky, you know, I mean have you have you had a chance to show your kids? never ending story Not yet. No, well, they watch old shit. I don't know No, no, no, no, I'll tell you why it's good. Yeah, because when you watch old movies where they try to do Like special effects a flying dog. He just doesn't well Here's a thing because they you Yeah, because they used a lot of like puppet type stuff because it's kind of like the black What's that? What's that one movie black crystal? Oh, yeah black crystal dark crystal. Sorry labyrinth They've got the puppets and shit and yeah, like my kids aren't used to seeing that. I know Yeah, that was like everywhere. Yeah, our era and then now it's like you barely see yeah So I showed my daughter and she's just like, oh my god. This is so awesome. Plus. It's a good story Yeah, you know I'm saying oh she actually liked it because of that see more I would difference kids don't like it because they think it's no graphically weak It looks group weak when you try and show them an old movie that tries to use Like old CGI or stuff like that then my kids are like this looks stupid Well, that's what's cool because like Yeah, my oldest he loves like the old Star Wars He's not like he's like any of the new stuff that has CGI in it like any of it He loves like old stormtrooper helmets and all that kind of stuff because it's like it looks more real, you know Oh, that's funny. Yeah, well the old ones were depth that definitely the three that came out after the original three work We're caca ship. Yeah, but the last the last couple. I thought they did really good job Being true to the graphics and what it was especially Rogue one It really like kind of brought back a lot of that like dirtiness and that grunge and like, you know run down Uniforms and shit. So I think that's a lot of people appreciated that, you know Did you guys finish watching all the four defiant one? I haven't I haven't got a watch. Are they really good I haven't even watched the one yet. I'm really getting off. Shit. How are you forgetting to watch this? So right that down right now so motivating dude guys to see what this these guys have built bro and a lot I didn't realize How Jimmy I've been right I've been or Ivy. I can't forget how you pronounce from Apple the designer Well, yeah, but he's connected to originally he was the you know Producer for I mean started with Bruce Springsteen and and all those guys. Oh, that's this guy's names. Yeah, okay Yeah, he was in the first one. So He's in all of them because it's really it's kind of he's a smart dude dude His I didn't realize how many people were connected to him and how many of these crazy Collaborations and music that we've seen were because of him. Hmm. Like he's that's he is The the out of air anybody in the in the industry I don't think anybody has put more people together that have turned into huge like hits and The I mean it started with the acquisition of Interscope Records but which was you know death row was a part of that and like their whole image was pushing back and I Identify so much of it because this was when I was a kid. Listen. I was really into music at this time So I listened to like all I didn't realize that they were they owned all this You know, they had Marilyn Manson they had death row nine inch nails Gwynn Stefani like they didn't no doubt Like they did all the people that were edgy that nobody wanted to touch and they like prided themselves on finding these like People that were pushing the balance because I remember when no doubt music when that was like hard to categorize like what kind of music Yeah, exactly And that's what he he searched for these artists that was red hot chili peppers on that label No, no red hot chili peppers were some of the people that Another one of those bands that we talked about that tried to stay garage as long as they could Yeah, I don't remember the label that they were with if they ever even signed with a major label or not I can't think of that off the top of my head. Yeah, there's a lot of good artists on Interscope I remember that that was big and he's responsible for literally all of it and then Dray's story, too And how he when he left death row and then went over and created his own label after math And why he did that like I remember I was so much into music at that time And so and it really filled the holes and gaps of things that I wasn't certain about I was like, oh, that's why that happened I always wondered why he left during that time because it was such that they were killing it and this and so pretty cool to watch You know his his story it was it's very well written and because I own all the documentaries on all those guys I've seen a ton of stuff on Tupac and Biggie and all them and they really Got dug into the behind-the-scenes and the business side of it Which I really enjoyed very little of the hype and drama and the bullshit They the media fed you with which was to promote all this stuff and to make really about all the guys that were making millions of Dollars and the shit that they were going through while all this went down and you know pretty fucking great. Well done, man It was HBO did that I think that series The defiant one so if you haven't watched that yet check that out I think that was probably one of the better series that I've watched in a while more money more problems I don't think that's true. That's I don't At all when they say that I got more problems now good for you. Yeah, those are good problems I have there's there's some truth to that right you make your problems when you get well I think that's different with more money. You know what? I was actually looking at these random stats like Yeah, do you know how many companies actually make it to a hundred million dollars and how many people actually make a million dollar? Like become millionaires like the percentages, you know the percentage of millionaires is like 1.5 percent You know, that's how rare it is really and yeah now that is people that actually make a million plus dollars Per year not not who have accumulated. Yes, right There's much much much larger. There is a much larger There's a much larger number of people that have assets as far as homes and things like that that are Value liquid cash. Yeah, there are people that are Millionaires right if you're a millionaire and you could go, you know, pull a million dollars out of it Well, now you don't have to be able to pull a million dollars out you make a million dollars in revenue every year or more It's only 1.5 percent. There's not a there's not a lot of people that actually make that and we talk about You know, how many people in the u.s. Doug you said what was the number? 315 million so how many millionaires is that then there are no or people making yeah There's a you got to look at the to separate those because there's there's a lot more people that are worth a million dollars because you've inherited it or You know so you could you come from a rich family or people who are earned Yes, people are making a million or more per year. Yes, so that makes that's about Seven that's 4.7 million people in America who make a million dollars per year. Yeah, which is not much considering There's 300 million. No, you're the people one percenters man If you get in that into that rain and just I think a lot of people put the facade on like they are and yeah Yeah, there's a lot of yeah There's a ton of people that act a big game and act like there's a lot of money But you know and you and we all know right being in the position We are building what we're building right now I think a lot of people think that you know the the mine pump There's all the success and yes, we've had a ton of success But the revenue isn't there for us because we have to pay employees invest Yeah, you gotta you gotta if you're really gonna build a company that makes a hundred million dollars a year You know it's gonna be quite some time before you're ever even making that kind of money Because you've got to continue to dump it back into the business and reinvest and people I mean to run a company that makes 50 to a hundred million dollars a year you don't you can't do that with five people like Unless you're the anomaly right somebody who hit something just crazy and even those people that that company doesn't sustain itself unless you've got a Staff to continue to to build and reinvent and you know I think the a lot of the I was watching and then of course That's just how my mind goes I get down the rabbit hole of starting to Google and search Dive into more stuff and I'm like goddamn. I can't believe how few of people actually Break that that milestone of making that kind of money. What are you pulling up right now? Doug? What is that some stats here? It's actually lower than that. Is it huh? That's lower. So what is the number there? 236,000 make in a year out of that out of 300 and actually 23 million people in the United States. Wow. Oh, that's small. That's not much at all. Oh, very low One percent you need to make three hundred eighty thousand dollars a year. That's the one percent, huh? Well, that's not all whole u.s. I'd like to see what the numbers I think are from like 2009 so they're a bit old Still gives you good. Well think about this way if you're making a million dollars a year in income You're probably you're you've got some some great investments to make that much, right? I mean, you've got some incredible investment You don't even need a million in certain parts of the country to you know Well, I mean having a million in assets is not that rare around here If you bought a house, that's why I took that out of there because it's a huge difference, right? Yeah, there's a lot of people which I think and I'm not interested in those people I'm not interested not to take anything from someone like that like I'm not interested in somebody who You know, you you your dad made a hundred million dollars and set you up with three houses and you have a business You don't count. You don't like I'm interested in people that have created this wealth for themselves And not a lot of people you could spend your entire lifetime You know trying to reach that that status of income and I think With with social media and with everything that we have out there that you have so many Fakers out there that put on this, you know facade or they the little bit of money They do make they put it into these these things that make it look like they have way more money than what they really have and In reality very very few make it to that and what it takes to to reach that point is it's ridiculous man And it's and I always tease Katrina all the time because I know she gives me a hard time sometimes when I can be very distracted, you know at home and stuff because I'm Always thinking on things that need to be done or what we're working on currently or you know What how we're gonna transition or move in two or three years because that's another thing too is you know A business is never is never stagnant. There's no such thing as like oh, I'm cruising along You're either dying or you're growing at all times and so the hardest thing I think for people that are they're chasing that They get caught up in this like, you know, oh, we're doing well or things are going well Or it's like no like it are we growing well No, if the numbers aren't reflecting us growing then technically we are dying and people have a hard time Accepting that and then knowing how to reinvent yourself to constantly do it I'm so fascinated in businesses and people and that like going back to the defiant ones, you know You watch someone over 10 20 30 years You've got to continually be making these these moves and pivots because Eventually somebody will do exactly what you're doing for better cheaper faster And if you're not already if you're not anticipating that and looking at your next move or your next week gobbled up Yeah, you'll get you'll get gobbled up by somebody else. So, you know, it's a big challenge with You know building your own success that I think about sometimes is How do you keep? How do you keep your kids? Or how do you make sure that they have the same? appreciation for things and drive and desire that you had you know I mean because being brought up in a Successful household is very different. You know monetarily then being brought up in regular household and then become successful yourself Like you ever think about that Justin like how you would yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, how I meant still that sort of work ethic You know admits Like they literally see what you have and you know and they recognize it and they recognize You know when you're bringing things home and whatnot and ask you like why why, you know, you don't have money Yeah, you like ask me that sometimes like this That's not the point, you know like like you have to earn this and like this is this is what this equates to so are your kids Are you guys just kids at that age yet where they actually ask these types of questions? Like I've never thought about that like have you had to like say no son You're not I'm not gonna buy that for you and then go why dad you can't afford it or we can't do it like Yeah, you had to have these totally yeah, so he did ask me that so I don't I don't like saying I can't afford it not because I don't want them to think I can't I can afford it but because What happens when I can't afford it when they grow up and they you know And they realize if I can't afford something like right It's not a good ability I'm curious to how you guys handle that what you say when it when your kid asked to buy things that you think is I'm still trying to build the actual value of dollars to him And so like having him go through certain chores or certain like responsibilities We start talking about how much he feels he should get paid, you know for that specific task and You know, we're starting really small But I want to just kind of see where his level is as far as like what he thinks a dollar is worth And like when he goes into the market, it's like okay This actually costs 15 or like, you know, his goal right now is to buy like this set this Lego set That's like 55 bucks, right? And so we're trying to kind of chart this out like okay You know you help with the laundry and you're folding your clothes like we're willing to give you a dollar You know every time you do that and so we're just starting with that, right? It's cool. And so he's he's kind of like stacking it up. He's got like seven bucks and he's like super and Next you're gonna knit me a sweater. Yeah, I can't wait to come back. He learns Google. He's like dad minimum wage is Pay me would that be great asshole? Yeah, you know, you know what my my ex's Parents used to do to her when she was a young kid your guys's kids age I thought was really fascinating was when they asked for things, you know video games TV knew this knew that whatever And because she grew up in a very wealthy home like he was he made a lot of money And they had anything they needed So, you know, this obviously was a challenge for him with these her growing up So she told me what her father would make it make her do is that anytime they asked for something They had to write a paper on why so like if she wanted like a new TV or a new toy or new dress or something like that Like you he would have her think think it out completely put it on paper on Why she needs that and if she doesn't need it Why does she want it and explaining that and then he would actually have this dialogue with her as far as like You get that critical thinking there. Yeah. Yeah, which is along the lines You guys are going with having them think about the the value of it and how you know, how do you get $55? It's not simple. You don't go ask dad and dad hands you $55. That's it's not like I'm gonna pay him every time He does, you know the task and so I don't want to like I want I don't want to just pay him for everything You're helping him relate what with a dollar. This is the first thing we're working on because he has a goal Right, so he still has to do other chores because he's a part of the family We all contribute in the family. That's like a big thing with me. Yeah, everybody does something Yeah, I lately been talking to my because my son just turned 12 and so we've been talking about how he can Potentially start a business even now. I was you brought this up this morning I'm glad he brought this you're talking about this because I think this is really cool That you've got a boy at the age that is now Asking kind of business type questions, which I think would be so exciting as a father to use that because he came up with An idea on how to make money on YouTube and he was telling me how oh and I asked him I said well How do you think? Businesses make money on YouTube and he goes well through advertising and I said that's true And so but I broke it down and I said you're gonna need a lot of viewers. Yeah to make a decent amount of money Yeah on advertisers or you can come up with your own product or your own service That you sell through your YouTube channel, which then requires far less Customers and so we were talking about you know, you know per sale, you know dollar amount value And we were coming up with ideas and I was kind of breaking it down for him So I was trying to get his wheels spinning because I would love for him to try to start a business and for me to help I'm out just to teach him, you know How things work and how difficult it is and to see him put his effort and energy towards You know doing something else has options, you know like you mean you want them to go through educational process But it's like, you know, you all can't also learn by you know doing this job Absolutely, absolutely. So and my daughter's a little young for that But I like to you know, I'm trying to because I what I got from my parents My parents were both, you know immigrants. They were both very hard-working But they came from the mentality that what you earned you saved you saved and you didn't spend much Which is you know good old-fashioned classic conservative, you know Money management, however When I was 1920 21 and I was making six figures running gyms All I did was take the money and save it because they didn't understand investments They didn't get that because where they came from you saved it. Yeah, so had I wish I had somebody that taught me Investments that you could buy this property. You could do this and by now I definitely would have far more assets had I known that at that age So I'm trying to explain that to My son in fact, I just had a conversation with him yesterday on I told him on inflation and I explained to him, you know We if you have a thousand dollars and you just save it in the bank, you know, you're losing money, right? He's like, what do you mean? I said, well, this is how much interest you get from the bank But this is what inflation is at and in reality, you're actually losing money and he's like well, that sucks Like yeah, like what do I do? I said you have to figure out how to invest it So you make more at least more than inflation, but you can make even more and we were talking about that and Going through that because I want him to understand that he can take his money Take his whatever, you know, whatever he's earned and turn it into more and have it work for him because I wasn't taught that I had to learn that on my own later on and I think that's a valuable lesson to learn That's interesting because I was just listening to Joe Rogan podcast He had this guy on who you know was an investor shift or whatever shift. Yeah Yeah, and he's talking about like the online, you know the way that you can Invest in gold and how you can trade gold. So it's like it's it's almost like an online like gold standard that they're trying to recreate So you can easily sort of exchange it, but it's always a tangible thing It's not like Bitcoin where it's like well cuz gold doesn't inflate like money like no, it's gold is yeah There's always been something valuable about gold. We've all like for thousands of years So it makes a lot of sense that you know, they could you know That's something like worth looking into investment wise for sure No, it's a cool my son's at a cool age right now, you know, I'm starting to see like he's not a kid anymore He's starting to become like, you know, kind of that teenager so you can see I can see his mind is working a little differently Testosterone starting to go up, which is pretty funny. Like I was looking out on the other day And I'm like are you getting a little peach fuzz little fuzzy. Yeah, like let's go Yeah, it's pretty is his voice cracking it all not yet. He just turned 12, you know, but yeah more to go But yeah, but it's funny because you can see I can see the testosterone starting to kick up a little bit I can see like we were in the pool the other day me him and my daughter were playing and He's rough housing differently with me like more like a like a you know, like an older boy would you know versus like a little Kid and he's fucking with me. He's jumping on me differently, which more aggressive, huh more aggressive because it's and it's a natural instinct and when testosterone goes up that's what we do we start to fuck with each other and It's a lot of fun to see that, you know, yeah, it's really really cool to see that but it's but I also now Like I don't let him go on his computer in his room by himself and do all that shit because Because I mean I remember when I you know when I started hitting for me like God forbid I had access to the internet Like how do you police that with phones and stuff like that like you're not allowed to have his computer? Anywhere where he's like in his room with the door closed or he can't take it in the bathroom or anything like that You guys fucking laugh that's what kids do oh my god kids take that shit in the bathroom I told you I mean I printed it Like when the internet first came out has it what was the first time you caught that did you catch him like walking to the bathroom with his laptop Were you doing I Caught that I don't know if he's seen anything or purposely looked up anything I know he has a lot of friends And here's the thing when you're a kid when you're especially when you're a young boy You know like 12 13 14, then it really starts to get crazy, but when you have a group of friends There's always that one or two guys Yeah, they got older brother Exactly and so show them all this so my son's the oldest in our family, right? So he didn't have an older brother's gonna show him the shit, but he does have friends who have older brothers So those are the ones I'm like and I can you know and I know they cuss I know that they they cuss to each other because I've heard them playing video games And they'll be on that you know that well they'll talk to each other And I'll hear and I'll hear his friends cuss and he'll look at me and I'll laugh and I told him we had a conversation I said look I don't care if you guys cuss just around each other But definitely don't do it around your sister and don't do it around other younger kids and don't do it around Your teachers because you'll get fucking big trouble. I said and also You said fucking Damn it and learn and learn like I told him I said in using bad words, you know, it's not It's not cool if you just use them all the time like learn how to use them whatever we have this conversation But I'm gonna put parental controls on this computer and you're not allowed to that's so funny That reminds me like the group that used to hang out with fucking they would use fucking for everything Just like could use it so you would put it in like every single conversation It was I told you guys about my I was only in third grade when I got in trouble for swearing I was in third grade and we were playing Waffle ball out in front and that you know that was back when the like with a wolf wolf a ball. Yeah Can you say wiffle wiffle ball We're playing out we're playing outside the principal's office and they had the window open and That was at the a I just learned how to cuss like you just started putting it together and I Remember this so much because I remember that you I would just you would swear and put them together all terrible Wouldn't even make sense. You know every time I missed the ball ball fuck shit ball You know just yelling stuff and the window and man this this shit on this Vice principal girl comes out and she grabs me by my elbow and just yanks me and just pulls me in the office and Called my mouse. I did it in-house suspension right for the day and my mom came down and where did you learn all that? I learned that from you Put her on blast got her in trouble and stuff When I was the first okay, no good. Okay, so I was fishing with my grandpa and Like for some reason, I don't know what his problem was but he hated catfish like he like had this weird like reaction Like he would catch one because he like just wanted to catch trout and so we're out there trying to catch trout and his little tin boat and He catches like this this big old catfish and he just takes it off the hook and he's like And he's like slamming this thing against the side of the boat and like kills it and throws it back I was like, whoa Like you don't like catfish, huh? You know and we get back and I remembered like you talk about using Using the words like the wrong way like we went Bike riding and my brother like cut me off or something I got off and I was like you damn head like in front of like You know my parents and like no, I got spanked in front of everybody So when I I was let's see I was Speaking of getting spanked. This is another story. I'll tell you guys. It's hilarious I was 13 so, you know again, and this is what I'm waiting for I'm waiting for my son to hit the age where and he's getting there now Where they start to you start to feel like cool, right? Like I'm fucking cool like you can't like okay, dad You can't spank me anymore because I'm cool now, right? You guys remember that when you hit that age. Oh, yeah, you're not gonna do it. Yeah So I would just look at him right they'd spank you and you just look back dude I was I was 13 or 14 maybe 14 years old and you know You think you're cool. You're with the buddies and I'm playing basketball or whatever We're at the at the elementary school and my dad is he's comes over and he's like sal. Let's go We got to go and I'm like, I just put my finger up. I didn't look at him like hold on like I'm with my boys are like hold on right and My dad my dad fucking my dad walks over grabs the basketball from the game and throws at me Yeah in front of all my friends he lost he just he grabs it and he looks at me in my face and I look at him Yeah, boom right and I'm like oh fuck and my friends are like oh shit and my dad's like let's go and I yeah Totally like punked me in front of all my friends, but the first time I actually really cussed in front of my parents I was actually older I was 13 years old and I was playing volleyball at a park It was a big family party and I don't know exactly what happened I jumped and I landed in my foot landed in in like a divot or something my knee twisted and my kneecap actually dislocated So my kneecap was on the outside of my leg So here you hear this dry like crack right and I fall down and then I look down at my knee And if you've ever seen a dislocated kneecap, it looks it looks horrible. It looks really bad Like my kneecaps here on the side So like there's nothing in the front and the skin is all stretched and I'm like oh Fuck and so I proceed and it hurt right so I proceed to cuss Until the ambulance gets there. I'm like fuck Fuck ah and everybody's circling around me and my mom comes down and she kneels by me And she's like she knows I'm in pain and she goes she tells me in my ears Watch your language Fuck and I kept cussing and my cousin is looking at me up in the back behind someone else He's looking at me like stop cussing. I didn't realize I was saying all these bad words Until the ambulance came and give me some morphine Yeah, and then I had a nice talking to but that's uh that was the first time Oh, man Douglas bring on the cussing bird Today's quas being brought to you by Chimeric coffee It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural Neutropics for a cleaner calmer and more focused buzz without the crash Put the Chimeric link at mind pump media comm and input the discount code Mind pump a check out for 10% off It's the motherfucking quaw The eagle has landed Quikwa Our first question is from Dudley underscore What's the difference between conventional and sumo deadlifts? When should you use one or the other or should you phase both? It's a good question Yeah, so one of them is done in a conventional style The other one is more of a sumo. No, but I think that I think Where if you look at this up like if you Google it you start trying to figure this out Most of stuff you'll read we'll talk about you know different people will Be able to do one or the other better right for example like some some people like I know Lane does a sumo stance, right? Like that is he he competes at that level. He trains at that level I don't even know if I've ever even seen him do a conventional deadlift before so and because he he's in a a sport of power lifting You want to continue to keep doing he's gonna go with this strong exactly that was already Naturally strong for you so you want to keep doing that right over and over and over so because you want to get good at it now When you're somebody who is training for aesthetics or overall performance or even mobility and you and functionality Doing both is is ideal and intermittently so I pull a lot better conventional deadlift That's just natural for me, but I I sumo deadlift all the time But I Intermittently put it into my routine so that I get the benefits of training in that way because it is awkward for me And I and I want to challenge my body that way I'm not going to PR sumo because it's it just is it feels awkward and uncomfortable in comparison into Conventional but there are there are many benefits to do sumo squatting and sumo deadlifting is a star staple exercises that I actually put into routines for other people when I'm training them because I Have found that most people your Your your glute meat is responsible for that external rotation of the femur So putting your putting your toes out in a sumo position for whether you're squatting or deadlifting is Different and awkward for a lot of people and a lot of the times When you see a person squat just normally their knees cave in and they pronate and most of the time That's because they they don't have a lot of connection to their glute meat and don't Activate that properly in the squat or the deadlift and teaching them a sumo squat or a sumo deadlift Helps people activate that more and get better control and then you I've noticed that I've been able to help people with the pronating of their foot Because they're they're not activating and turning on their glute meat So that's a huge benefit of incorporating sumo's if you don't do them I know we're so here's why there's a lot of confusion with these two With conventional and sumo deadlifts the confusion is because of power lifting okay because in power lifting When you do a deadlift they allow you to pick one or the other they're interchangeable and because of that We've come to the conclusion This kind of unsaid conclusion that they're both the same right that oh oh I deadlift and nobody asks you Is it convention or dead or sumo it'd be like me saying oh I do squats, but I do front squats The reality is and this might even be controversial I bet you I'm gonna get a lot of people who are gonna make some very I already know you're going there very different They're different exercises very much. So and I'm sure it's gonna sound controversial to some people Break it down mechanically when you do think about where when you do a wide sumo stance. It requires you totally different You know different recruitment. Yes total different. I mean you are in both of them You are using a lot of the posterior chain, of course But it's you're using more hips with the conventional you're getting you need to have more flexibility in your hips in different ways With the conventional you're getting more erector spinae. You're getting a different activation in the lower body It's they're two different exercises So I think you should treat them as both now. Do they have a carryover to each other? Sure They do but just like a front squat will have a carryover to back squat and vice versa There's gonna be some carryover, but that doesn't mean that they're interchangeable. I don't like it when people say They're interchangeable because they're they're both two different exercises now when I would recommend First of all in the grand scheme of things if you're doing all kinds of different exercises and mobility work and all that stuff Then you can pick one and you'll probably be okay, but but if you're more advanced you've been working out for a while My advice is to focus on one sometimes and focus on the other one sometimes Like sometimes in the same work even add in like the hex bar, you know I'm like adding different different options. Like I'm a big believer in Challenging the angles is a variable as well, right? So if I'm gonna do this this You know bilateral type loaded situation Like if I can adjust where my foot position is and really work on the mechanics from that and start ramping my way up again You know from that angle. I feel like then that also contributes So it's just it's a matter of like Having a focus and going through a phase of that three to four weeks or whatever you you sort of determine and then You know switch out and work on you know another skill in a different angle now biomechanically speaking if we just look at biomechanics and leverage The sumo deadlift should be the stronger lift for I think pretty much anybody It should be but for whatever reason and I've heard different Experts explain why this is not the case in reality in real life But it's supposed to be now. I know in reality and in real life, especially taller lifters Tend to do better conventional. I'm one of them. I lift way more weight conventional than I can sumo I can pull five plates right now pretty much at any time conventional Sumo I'd have to train sumo for a little while before I can do that in the appeal of sumo is that like you're not really short range Emotion shorter range. It's more biomechanically Advantages for the body. I know women tend to like sumo over over conventional shorter lifters tend to like sumo Over conventional in powerlifting competition. They're interchangeable So obviously pick the one that you're stronger at but if you're training to get stronger overall to build muscle overall Then you should you should do both and I mean the way I would program it and we didn't put we didn't program like maps Anabolic for example calls for a deadlift and I don't specify in there Between conventional or sumo and people can pick but when you get a little more advanced the way I would do it as I would go I would do a whole like 12-week cycle where I'm phasing, you know Like three phases so like a strength hypertrophy and then a more of a strength endurance Phase so like 12 week a 12 week mega phase or whatever you want to call it macro phase And then I would do that with conventional then I'd go back around and then I'd stick to sumo Because what happens and what you notice is when you get stronger at a particular movement, you'll typically see a corresponding Muscle growth when you try a new variation of that movement You'll see it you'll be weaker, but then there's so much more potential in terms of growth And then you'll see, you know more muscle growth. So I've actually tested this I've done this where I Conventional deadlift for a long time then I go to sumo and I'm like stuck at okay I'll just start with 315 because I need to get used to this and then I'll work up to 475 5 plates on the sumo and I'll notice more muscle than I had before because I've had to get that recruitment pattern So I say both of them there. Oh, absolutely. There's a lot of different way This is also why we encourage The in interchanging of exercises why the YouTube channel is designed to Mere the programs to teach people other movements that they can interchange into the within the program I actually have used it like this where when I'm running through any of our maps programs where we're going through a strength phase I lean towards the one that I'm stronger at because I can push myself I feel safer pushing myself with five plates and beyond in a conventional stance I don't feel comfortable pushing myself Five plates in on sumo and so I incorporate the sumo deadlifts when I start getting in the higher rep range where I'm using a lighter Weight and I feel I can focus more mechanically on what I'm doing now I think that there's huge benefits to what Sal said by doing a whole cycle of that And I think that would be great. But again, this is what's fun about You know programming and playing with these type of things I think without a doubt if you're not doing both of them You are for sure missing out in my experience. I have shaped a ton of butts Using sumo deadlifts. I it's very common that I would I would train a Female client who had come to me and say Adam I want to work on my butt and when I teach them a sumo deadlift They're like I've never done that before in my life And I right away know that I'm gonna give them a whole new look to their butt that they've never seen because That's a part of the glute that a lot of people do not activate. There's not a lot of movement At least not in that way. No, exactly. There's not a lot of muscle like caustic squats Are you going, you know, right lateral lunges right all the time, right? And so it's it literally and the weight where the glute means sits or the part of it that is part of your glute It really gives that shape to like so if I have a girl who has kind of a in a guy this can't counsel guys too I'm just speaking to women because I've had more women come to me asking specifically for help in building their ass is You get like these this narrow hips where they they don't have a lot of width to their butt where you can see it from the front and When you really start to build the the glute meat you start to see that Dimensional yeah, it creates a three it does create a three-dimensional ass and it does add a lot more shape to it and so if you're somebody who is Looking for the aesthetic piece like absolute This is this has to be in your training if you're trying to build that lower half So if you're a guy or a girl looking to build a butt, you've got to get those sumo squats and deadlifts Yeah, so another thing to the way of using the past When I'm trying to because I love deadlifting and for a little while there I was just trying to push and see how much weight I could lift and When I would get to a sticking point is when I would do a cycle of Something else so when I'd get sticking when I got to a sticking point with conventional There you got to I would do sumo for a while And then when I'd see my strength go up up up up with sumo and I started to slow down there Then I go back to conventional and that same thing with the with the trap bar or the hex bar Yeah, in fact, I pulled 600 pounds Trap bar way before I was able to pull it with a straight bar But I would but that was definitely a played a role in my ability to be able to pull that much weight Conventional and when I got my sumo Up to five plates. That's when I was getting my my conventional into the high fives Was old when I was able to do that. So for the people listening right now I really want to build strength like if you're stuck at your deadlift, you know Switch to the other style whether you're already sumo go to conventional if your conventional go sumo Train like that for a while in start slow by the way I want to be clear like yeah, don't go fucking ripping some heavy ass weight because you'll hurt yourself Start slow give yourself some weeks to build up But once you start pulling some pretty good weight with that new style go back to your old scouts I'll see what happens that tip you just gave is the reason why I normally recommend it in the third phase in a phase where we're doing You know ten repetitions or more so, you know, you have to go a lighter weight And so it kind of forces people to lighten up and go focus more mechanically quick commercial break Hey, people ask us all the time how they can support mine pump. Here's what you can do You can go to www.brain.fm forward slash mine pump and get 20% off brain FM for meditation or focus You can also go to audible trial comm forward slash mine pump and get a 30-day trial plus one free audio book Lastly you can go to good get nature blend comm forward slash mine pump and you will get a discount on Ben Greenfield CBD product Jennifer 831 can you talk about cortisol? What it is what effects it has and what you can do to keep it at a healthy level Cortisol evil cortisol, right? Everybody talks about bad name. Yeah, everybody talks about cortisol as it being this Horrible dangerous hormone. It's a stress hormone. It's cause how do we lower muscle loss fat You know gain all these other things cortisol is a very very very important hormone in the body It helps regulate Blood sugar it helps regulate the immune system. It helps metabolize fat proteins and carbohydrates It's it gives you energy You naturally should have a spike in cortisol in the morning when you first wake up In fact, there's a lot of functional medicine doctors will test you for this And if they see that your cortisol levels are too low in the morning, then they think maybe you have some issues with your With your HPA access access, excuse me, and then you just start working on it. So cortisol itself Again, it'll raise in response to stress If it's continuously elevated all the time you can have some negative effects But I think what we're starting to discover is it's not so much the cortisol levels that we need to be careful for It's becoming Losing sensitivity to it like we would with insulin When we when we start to get diabetes and this is very fascinating the constant spike of it versus actually having its right So in the past for example, or even now you still hear this you still hear the term adrenal fatigue And I know a lot of Western medicine doctors laugh at that I think in fact, I think Lane had a doctor Lane Norton had a doctor on a friend of his who made fun of the term Adrenal fatigue because there's no evidence that the adrenals get fatigued in that your body stops producing You know hormones like cortisol But I think what's happened is we've observed the side effects or symptoms of Too much constant levels of stress, which is constant fatigue and ability to get your body, you know revved up You know all the symptoms that you would associate with adrenal fatigue And so then they named it adrenal fatigue because they had a theory around it But I think what may be happening is because people have these constant elevated Levels of cortisol that their body becomes insensitive to it and their receptors start to downregulate Not unlike what happens with, you know resistance to things like leptin or to Insulin and so in those particular cases you'll find people Requiring higher and higher doses of stimulants to And that by the way is a good That's a somewhat decent way of knowing that your body may be dealing with some cortisol resistance is that you need more and more artificial forms of you know quote-unquote artificial forms of cortisol for example if You absolutely need coffee in the morning not that you enjoy it But you have to have it or you're dead tired all day long. This is like all sounding like me Yeah, it could mean that your body's becoming insensitive to cortisol So you're in the morning you're getting your cortisol spike, but your body's just not responding to it So you're having to supplement it with you know all this all this other cortisol. It's interesting Yeah, just cuz I I think I told you guys a long time ago I had to have my one of my adrenal glands removed because it had a tumor on it and then like I know It's probably not related but like ever since then it's felt like this You know constant battle for me, you know with with trying to get energy and trying to get this Exactly how you're kind of describing like what levels you should be at in the morning It's like so bad in the morning for me like in comparison to the rest of my entire day So that's something I should definitely look into I mean it really does to you know manage the immune system as well It's you know, it is anti-inflammatory It's an anti-inflammatory now too much of it all the time can cause lots of problems, but having too low cortisol now What's your thoughts on like, you know supplements like reishi or ashwagandha? That's like in our organized supplement like our do things like this benefit benefit Somebody who has issues with course. So here's why I like certain supplements or certain herbs that are considered adaptogens in That I like them because they don't Directly lower cortisol in the sense that I can't give you this and just slam your cortisol down what they do do is They help your body be Kind of homeostasis So if you have constant high levels of cortisol and you're in this constantly stress state Then we do see a depression in cortisol if you're in this state with low cortisol all the time They actually may help raise it. They help balance it ashwagandha is a great supplement for this I know the green juice Has some of this in there and I would consider the green juice just based on what's in there to be a decent You know Adaptogenic type Supplement do you think that's because I was you're asking me because I've been really consistent with taking it now for You were saying you notice more energy from yeah, that's not a steam it. There's no stimulants in there Yeah, no, but I def I've I feel really good and it and it doesn't feel like a caffeine high or energy It just feels this good sustained even kill. It's interesting. You mentioned that because I was attributing it to maybe my Consumption of vegetables wasn't as high enough like my serving size amount, you know And so I was like kind of going through that like maybe, you know, that's why I'm feeling more energetic But you know, maybe it's all well like that's why I'm thinking the same thing too though It could be because that's how I supplement and use it as I typically base it off of okay How am I doing as far as my my green intake and that for example? That's why I was doing one to two of them every day when I was on the boat was because it was like I can't there's no vegetables out There whatsoever, so I want to make sure I was getting that and so I was looking at more like a micro nutrient Deficiency and making sure I'm getting everything I need, but I'm wondering if it maybe have some sort of a knowing our lifestyle All of us in this room and the way we work and then how busy our lives are and how active our minds are I Would not I would that's what I would bet I would bet that it's probably balancing out Your system a little bit and acting as an adaptogenic. I mean what we have to remember is that the body When it's balanced, you're gonna operate your best and all things You're just gonna feel your best and it's gonna feel like it's different than stimulant energy Like I know the difference between having a good dose of caffeine or another stimulant Versus having this natural kind of energy. Well, yeah, cuz you'll get jittery and it's like, you know You get like overly stimulated and you really don't feel good doesn't feel like good like productive energy anyways Right. It's not a hyper energy. It's just you feel good and feel healthy type of energy and that's what you want when your body's balanced out so Yeah, they they you know ashwagandha reishi does this there's other adaptogenic herbs I know Siberian ginseng For some people will do that. There's other mushrooms that can do the same thing But again, the the reason why I like the way these work is if you give Ashwagandha to an otherwise healthy person they don't get like they're not gonna see major changes Yeah, you're gonna see it if you're stressed out. Here's some clues by the way To knowing that you may have some kind of a Disfunction in that kind of HPA access or maybe having know some kind of cortisol resistance If you find yourself needing more and more stimulants if you find that you have sleep disrupt disruptions Even though you're exhausted so you can be very very tired But then find yourself waking up in the middle of the night or not like God I'm so tired, but I can't get a good night of sleep or you do get sleep and you wake up And you still feel tired There's also some behavioral effects that people are speculating for example You may place yourself in stressful situations not realizing that what you're seeking is a cortisol release because you need more cortisol For example people with cortisol resistance or adrenal fatigue, whatever you want to call it will find themselves being late more often to appointments and That's literally because when you're late to something you get a little high Oh fuck. I'm late and you get this kind of you get adrenaline you get a little bit of a cortisol spike You know funny Subconsciously you end up doing that you sabotaging yourself you get you are also a lot of times You'll seek out higher intensity workouts, and we know this because as all the time Yes, you've got these people that are in these high stress states that are living on 15 cups of coffee a day and The kind of workout that they think they feel best doing is the super high intensity Spin class or whatever and if you tell them hey, that's not good for you They'll argue with you and be like I feel so great afterwards the reason why you so feel you feel so great right after Is because you've art of you just pushed your body to squeeze out more cortisol And now you feel normal because you have all these down-regulated receptors to cortisol But in reality what you're doing is you're just you're kicking the can down the road And you're making the problem worse and worse and worse till when you get to the point where nothing is Gonna do that for you So cortisol is an important hormone to look at but so are all the other hormones too little isn't good too High isn't good and having it high at the wrong times isn't good either. Yeah, they all they all work together They have you have to have them next question is from foxy lifts How effective are new tropics for someone with ADHD? Oh, yeah The modern synthetic one. I guess any new tropics, but maybe we could talk about yeah Let's talk about all of them the synthetic and the you know Here's the interesting thing about 80 ADHD and ADD Diagnosis for both of them has skyrocketed. Well, it didn't exist self-diagnosed. How many years ago did it not exist? It wasn't that long ago when we were kids when we were kids. It first started kind of becoming a thing Does that mean it doesn't exist. No, I think I think ADD and ADHD exist However And this is my own personal experience both working with kids. It's kind of like wandering uterus. Yep Yeah, that was an old diagnosis from they used to they used to call it hysteria I was I was one of the books I finished talked about the The evolution of the slowly sidetrack here, right? But it just made me think of that because I was thinking about things that we diagnosed people with that like we laughed out 20 years or 50 years or 100 years later, right? Like is this gonna be something that we kind of chuckle about like you idiots We just were fucking distracted as fuck because of all these sick electronical devices and this and that I wonder if This will be one of those things so back in the late 1800s, you know, if women had hysteria Nervousness anxiety so that they would diagnose them with wandering uterus And then you would see the doctor and the doctor like the master. Yes, the doctor doctor is a vibrator Well, first he did it manually he would he'd help her orgasm and then the evolution of the vibrator was they created this tool Where they would use the vibrator on her to help her get orgasm and they did that for many years It was extremely making all kinds of appointments and what the only reason why it stopped was because you know companies came out later and Approved the at-home version the battery operated at home version Which was actually one of the first five electrical appliances that you could buy up there with toasters like and things like that And women around the world rejoice well Well, you could buy it for five dollars and back then a doctor visit and your orgasm through your doctor would cost you about $3 for the visit $2 for your orgasm and it would be that's cheap So now you could get that at home as many times as you possibly want and so it convenience So it pretty much Solved this this whole, you know wandering uterus that existed for good So I want those uterus and it was very successful at treating hysteria and wandering uterus Very effective. I'm lots of good feedback. Imagine that you're with your girlfriend or your wife or whatever and you're psyched You know what honey? You're being hysterical But take care of yourself real quick It works in our household anytime Katrina's irritated To the drawer. Yeah. Hey, I knock out an orgasm or two for you need little time always So so yeah ADD ADHD Here my thoughts on it are I think it exists, but I also think we're over diagnosing the fuck out of it I think there's a lot of kids and a lot of adults with shitty diets low activity poor sleep And by the way, do you know what some of the symptoms of having a poor diet low activity and poor sleep are? Exactly the same symptoms you'll find with ADD and ADHD And there are many there are several studies now that show Getting kids to exercise reduced reducing their consumption of certain foods in particular sugars Processed highly processed foods. You all of a sudden notice better concentration and all those different types of things So before we talk about supplemental treatments for ADD and ADHD These single most effective things you could do to help yourself with your inability to concentrate is get good Yeah, get a good sleep. Yeah, eat better and move and you'll find all of a sudden. Holy fuck. I can concentrate look I'm I've been diagnosed with ADD. I got diagnosed Well, this is another one of those situations where we're not addressing the root cause You know leave it to Western medicine to diagnose you with something like ADHD wandering uterus whatever the fuck it is and we want to prescribe something to For that exact, you know acute issue when in reality, we're not addressing what the root cause probably is So it's not to say that your kid does or doesn't have ADHD very well He could be and that could be a fair diagnosis But really instead of giving him some sort of pills or new tropics or supplement or something for that Trying to figure out what is causing the ADHD which like you said even then I get kind of a little controversial my thought process with you know, especially with kids and like that being the Environment that they have to abide by like as they're sitting in class and you know, it's a kid that like needs to move Like like they have all this energy and you're trying to stifle that and like get them to just focus You know on this one thing and like they're a kid, you know, they're kid And they they got all this like like let's get them to move more like to their decreasing activity for recess They're decreasing, you know, extracurricular sports like all this and they want them to be a better student Like that doesn't make any fucking sense, you know, you know one of the other characteristics of ADD or ADHD is the ability to hyper focus no joke. I'm not making this up like Kids or adults with ADD or ADHD or have been diagnosed also have the ability to hyper focus on right find something They love and watch how fucking amazing that right right to the point where though where you could fucking blow You know, you could fire a gun next to them We even recognize it because they're so focused on what they're doing. Yeah, so and when we look it used to be called rambunctious It used to be called, you know, energetic or art term. Yeah, you know, that that distracted more far more boys Far more boys. I don't know what the exact number is but far more boys are diagnosed with these two things than girls and part of it is that the fucking classroom and modern lifestyle is Designed is better for girls. That's gonna be a controversial sub subject, but it's fucking true. It is true. It's very true It's been proven in many psychological studies that boys have a tougher time Sitting down and being in these in these like traditional school environments They do better moving and you know touching and doing types of things kids in general tend to learn that way So I think you're right just and you put people in this environment and you're gonna want to fucking go crazy And then now fast forward to modern lifestyle as an adult mirrors it you're sitting at your desk all day long You're eating shitty food You're distracted at lunch on your phone. You probably get crappy sleep like, you know, I would I would venture to say a Huge majority of your issues if you have these, you know, 80 or 80 HD Will be solved with or can be you know mitigated with those types of things that all being said, you know I look as an adult like I dug Diagnosed with ADD and it was basically for fun like I went to the doctor and there was this no job You do on the weekends. No joke. There was a there was a poster in our office. I went for something else I remember what was for there was a post from our office. I do you have the following symptoms? You may have adult ADD and I'm in there and I'm thinking like I want to get some Ritalin like I heard that shit's fun I'm not bullshit drug seekers. So I said so I sat in the office and I said, hey I think I have ADD now if I think about it. I I do fit the category of ADD I am one of those people that totally can totally you guys know me hyperfocus. Yeah, you guys know me I could totally distracted so I said So I told the doctor that and so the doctor had me do a questionnaire and I fucking like I think nine out of ten questions She's like, oh, yeah, you definitely do here try this and I'm like, oh cool I'm gonna get my hands on some legal meth right because that's what those drugs are and instead She gave me some other bullshit that made me feel crappy and then I never went back But man, but that's how that's how it was. That's how kind of easy it was and if I think about it The characteristics that I have that also make me have ADD or the characteristics that make me really fucking good at the things I do right totally You know I'm saying like podcasting or working in a gym and selling memberships and promoting and leading a team and doing Those types of things like I think those characteristics really good. So that all being said Can new tropics help with ADD anything that is going to give you a dopamine boost theoretically should help you with focus if you have ADD or ADHD because they've identified a That a dopamine dysfunction is at the root cause what they think the root cause of ADD and ADHD so then what's your thoughts on something like that when we were just got done talking about cortisol and caffeine and Pairing the new tropics like we do with our chimeric coffee that we're attached to What are your thoughts on someone like that that has ADHD that is incorporating the coffee that has the natural ones and caffeine? Well, definitely caffeine is a classic Way to boost to help people with ADD and ADHD Symptoms anything that's gonna be like I said anything has to release release Excuse me dopamine and cause that that release in the brain is gonna help People you know get that focus But I'll tell you what all the supplements and none none of none of them are gonna compare to what I what I just said with Nutrition yeah, I mean it makes such a fucking big difference to do those things. So And you know, here's a thing to with new tropics, especially the synthetic ones is you build up a tolerance to them so I Can have caffeine and become more focused with it But if I have caffeine all the time not only do I start losing the effect, but I start getting Negative effects and then I start to get worse focus with caffeine So like I'm fucked if I have it and I fucked if I'm not have it and I gotta let myself You know my my receptors for it down regulate and all that stuff. So I mean interesting topic I guarantee we're gonna piss some people off because I know there's people who are parents of children and As a parent the last thing you want to hear is that you're giving your kid a drug for something That can be solved with your parenting Because that's what they hear But I didn't say it was easy right having your kid, you know, especially today's you know having them eat a certain way By the way, your kids can also be affected by certain dies and preservatism food that can cause ADD and ADHD like symptoms in kids I had a kid that I trained who had to stay away from red dye number 50 I believe it was. Oh, wow anything with that and he was fucking no way Yeah, dude, it was a 10-year-old kid and his mom told me and even the doctor had recognized it If he had anything with this red dye, he would get really bad ADD and ADHD So they do like an elimination die. Yeah, that's it They did elimination dye and they tested it several times Isn't that such like well the best, you know protocol for you and you didn't recommend that Which I think you have to for things like this when you're trying to get down to the root cause of what you know What's flaring this up in your kid or yourself if it's for yourself is the elimination diet I think is I all if I can't get to the bottom of something with somebody who's like dealing with some sort of chronic issue Or something like this. It's okay Let's do the elimination diet and then we're gonna slowly introduce things and then pay close attention to we are in a Society that is a Medicaid Society it is a let's get rid of the symptom with this Pharmaceutical or whatever medication and that is because the money The money is driven by that so that's the direction of all the learning and the teaching So it's kind of on the one hand It's awesome that we figured out ways to mitigate symptoms But on the other hand it has forced us to ignore The root the cures for these root problems and you have to ask yourself if I have these symptoms and I solve and I help fix that symptom with a medication I haven't changed what is causing that thing to happen in the first place. Yeah, and I should look there I should look to that, you know, just keep continually treating the symptoms. I'm telling you they do studies on Depression on mild to moderate depression mild to moderate depression Treated with exercise and nutrition and head-to-head company, you know and head-to-head trials Does as well and this and then better in the long term then SSRI drugs And for mild to moderate depression and yet we're people there's like a tremendous amount of people that are prescribed You know, Medi, you know SSRIs which have a whole host of different side effects not to mention behavioral changes That's the thing you want to understand too when you're taking these medications that are altering your brain chemistry in very subtle ways it is Changing your behavior. So in very subtle ways it is changing who you are and especially when you're a kid when the brain is developing Some of these changes can be long-term impactful. They can be so there's very few symptoms that you won't see a tremendous improvement upon by Fixing the three things that I said nutrition exercise and sleep you work on those three things and you should see a dramatic reduction And most of your chronic symptoms quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time How can I support the mine pump family? Here's one of the best ways you guys can you guys love that Chimera coffee that we have Chimera coffee with a K you go to Chimera coffee comm put in the discount code mine pump for 10% at the checkout You guys have not tried Ben Greenfield's new bars out there fantastic If you want some go to Ben Greenfield fitness comm forward slash nature bite put in the code Mine pump and get 10% off go check it Next question is from J. Cisneros. Does the way you cook your food matter nutritionally? For example boiling baking steaming barbecuing or rock This is the only reason why I feel like this is a good question Is for the vegetable side of things because I think there is a big myth around well the carcinogens and like you know How everybody are you doing? Yeah? Well, I was just thinking like cuz you know you brought up dr. Merkola and how you like he boils right yeah, and he won't like yeah. Yeah, there's the whole like if you if you Cook something over a flame That produces carcinogens in the food and therefore that's a not a good way To prepare your food so it's better to prepare it in ways that don't produce carcinogens now the way I look at it is We that's probably the way we cooked all of our food for most of human civilization So we evolved like I don't I don't how else did we prepare our meat? You know I mean when we were cavemen we had to burn it to kill all the bacteria Well, not just the bacteria, but to make it digestible well that too Yeah, though though the reason why we're able to consume as humans consume the amount of meat that we are that we Do consume is because we cook it if we didn't cook it like try and go eat raw red meat You'll get a little bit and then the rest of if you eat too much make yourself sick because you can't you didn't break it down with cooking so There's a lot of that controversy when it comes to cooking food that I don't necessarily buy Same thing with that's why I said this is a splitting hair thing for me And the only time I talk about it to somebody is that because there's a lot of stuff Around you know raw vegetables you get so much more nutrients and I know you've addressed this before on the show That yeah, sure you get more nutrients from raw vegetables than you do from boiling or steaming your vegetables But then you can you can digest and eat more of the ones that are boiled so that it's a wash So if you know somebody who eats, you know three cups of raw vegetables Your body is not going to be able to fully assimilate all of that versus somebody who has One or one to two cups or three cups of that boiled. He's gonna be able to assimilate all of that And here's a something else you want to consider if food intolerances Sometimes you can have an intolerance to a food if it's raw But you won't have an intolerance to it if you cook it And so this is true for like eggs for example is it more example that is it more common that direction than the other direction? More common that you'll have it's more common that you'll have an intolerance to something. That's raw than if it's cooked like a God the nightshade vegetables right like eating a raw tomato for some people will destroy their gut But if you cook it in sauce Then it just because the cooking process destroys that whatever you're on the way You would know that is if you're somebody has an intolerance because you have the tomato versus someone I was like ketchup because ketchup they go through the whole boiling process of cooking the ketchup I see I'm like that with certain vegetables. So like Raw spinach I can handle a certain amount but not a ton because then it bothers me cook spinach I can eat a fuck ton of it and it's not a problem And like you said the your ability to assimilate the food makes a big difference as well But there are benefits. There are benefits to eating some things raw most Wellness experts will say it's good to have a variety. So here we go. It's like that's always the answer All right, that's always the answer like having a variety cooking your food a variety different ways is gonna probably yield you a benefit in different in lots of different ways like Boiling your vegetables, you're probably gonna be able to eat a lot more of them. You'll get a lot more fiber That's a lot more digestible Raw you're gonna get more intact enzymes and certain nutrients Cooking your meat over a barbecue might have some benefits and detriments versus boiling it versus, you know Baking it. So I would say there's definitely there's most likely a benefit to doing variety of them but in particular with vegetables like I try to have a Little bit of raw vegetables every day But most of the vegetables that I eat are either steamed or boiled. I almost always my meat is almost always Baked in the oven or barbecued. I've never really prepared you guys ever boil meat. I do Actually, I actually boil meat a lot. I boil meat or crock pot meat a lot Well, not a lot like yeah, pretty but I actually like So one of my favorite dishes to do that did this a lot when I was competing is We would boil a huge pot of chicken and then we shred the chicken and then you show me this a long time Yeah, I shred the chicken Season it a little bit and then I do like I basically make a burrito bowl without so I use the chicken the rice avocado and a little bit of green salsa that was like a staple meal of mine when I was competing because it tastes amazing and The boiled chicken it like makes the chicken really really soft and easy to eat and then it's easy to shred So, yeah, no, I boil meat. I eat I eat a lot of raw shishimi. So I do a lot of raw salmon But then I also cook a ton. So I boil I barbecue I steam I bake I literally cook my food all I what I don't buy into is camps on this like Oh, don't do something like the McCollum raw diet I love dr. McCollum But then I'm also not gonna be telling people to not cook their food over an open flame because I'm with you So that well until you're worried about Wi-Fi Yeah, yeah, we should worry about Wi-Fi on that right there's levels of this And I mean even at the level that I've gotten as far as you know Being particular about my food and rotating and things. There's so many other things that I can do to Make my diet better than worrying about am I baking or boiling this today? I think where you get into any sort of danger if you become somebody who is in a camp where all you do is Only boil your food or all you do is only eat raw this or or never eat raw And you always so I think the right answer is to to just to rotate as much as possible from a nutritional because the real question is Does this matter nutritionally? You're really splitting hairs on the difference. Like it, you know What's the difference between a raw salmon? Protein wise versus salmon that has been you know Barbecued or baked like the amount of nutrients or protein because you've heard people say oh You cook all the protein out if you burn it or if you if you have your steak well done versus having a medium rare like You know, oh, you're gonna cook all the protein out like no You're not gonna cook all the protein out by having even though I wouldn't recommend having a Katrina ruins or a steak like that Oh, well done. Yeah, I tease her every time we go to a fancy restaurant. I will make fun of you We go to a fancy restaurant I do every time and when she orders it just ruin the steak for her place Just ruin the $50 steak I'm buying her right now flames everywhere on it But she still gets plenty of protein in there It's not even worth Haggling over how much she's losing or not losing over cooking it, you know, well done or whatever so I don't think it's Worth even discussing or getting into With a client or teaching people other than that, you know rotate probably the worst way to cook would be what frying, right? I would assume deep frying, but if you do do that you see how you have to use Yeah, you want to use of a high lease high saturated fats like you want to use like beef tallow or lard or You know coconut oil, maybe even I don't think you can fry with coconut You can't you can't fry with coconut oil avocado. Oh, that's it. That's what you want to fry with like a legit like animal fat Yeah, because there's only ones that are stable. Yeah, they're stable at that high temperature Otherwise you start to get you get fats that start to change and become very inflammatory So I would say yeah, I would say frying is probably the one you want to the most parts Yeah, not you can do it. Yeah, it's pretty much you can do without completely. There's no without it Yeah, there's no need to fry. Let's put it that way You can get all the benefits that because any sort of benefits you could potentially get from frying in some of the lard I mean you could eat you could do that without negate a lot Yeah, yeah, and you could do that without actually frying the food. Yeah cooking is interesting because again, you know We're as humans as we evolve we our brains became so massive and our jaws became smaller and our digestive track is relatively short and small And it's because so we learned how to cook food. We learned how to Pre-digest it with heat so that we could then eat it and you know because we don't need three stomachs Yeah, because exactly because you know The food the nutrient content of food is important it is like raw vegetables For sure have more nutrients than cooked vegetables do But are you able to assimilate them? Are you able to? Take them into your body and process them. Is your body able to break them down? Like they would if you cook them and the answer is no I mean, you know go ahead and go if you're listening right now You want to do a little experiment go try and eat, you know two cups of raw broccoli And then you know make sure you're next to the toilet because You're going to have you know stomach pains cramps and you'll probably crap yourself because you can't Digest all that you know that fiber in that particular way, but could you eat two cups of cooked broccoli? There's a good chance you probably could and as far as carcinogens are concerned, you know with the barbecuing Uh, you know, that's just one of those things that look exercise creates carcinogens in your body, too You know causes inflammation of carcinogens, but we know that it's a it's a healthy process So that's why I'm still uh, you know, I'm decided that barbecuing is perfectly fine until I see An actual connection between and with good controls between barbecuing You did it for like every single meal that you ever ate, you know for like years Maybe then I don't know that's how we ate though, right? I know I don't I still don't even see like that you'd have that much I mean, what did what did we even boil things in we didn't have yeah pots and pans didn't come till later No, it was all over a flame So yeah, I highly doubt um barbecuing is necessarily a bad thing Unless maybe you're barbecuing on I don't know, you know over some kind of weird charcoal or something that's Or you know the fake what do you spray on it? Yeah, the little lyre fluid. Yeah, the lyre fluid. So there you go Check this out 30 days of coaching available for free to anybody go to mind pump media dot com and register There also if you want to ask us a question that we can answer an episode like this one The place to ask it is instagram the page to ask it on is mind pump media We also have our own personal pages my page is mind pump sal adam is mind pump adam Justin is mind pump Justin and finally. Yeah, we have a youtube channel called mind pump tv Check it out. There's a new video every single day. 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