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And we doing it all up on this show. It's a mashup, man, it's a party. Everybody's invited, everybody's invited, man. And today we got one of the ATL legends up in this motherfucker, man. And you know, I've been rocking to this dude, man, ever since he first came down, I got geeked up. I got tatted up, man, you know what I'm saying? And I was starting to see spaceships in Bankhead and whatnot. And you know, we starting to see spaceships right now all over the world. And everything, he called it a long time ago. You know what I'm saying? Somewhere back in 2005, 2003, man. He been here before that. But if you didn't know that, hey, you know what I'm saying? We're gonna lean with it. We about to rock with it. We about to laugh it, taff it. We about to snap to it. Man, y'all give it up for my player part of my home, boy. FABO! Bye, bruh! What's up, Jack? Hey man, what's happening, man? This is the, hey, dawg. You the gospel with that shit right there, bruh. I feel like I'm on Letterman, Kimmel, or something like that. I mean, instantly when I came in here, I had to get professional because you got the desk and all that, man. You know, you really holding in, old Brian. I just instantly got that feeling when I came in here. Hey, bruh, man, you will be been manifested and talking about this for a long time. You know what I'm saying? Back when I was over there, this is 50. And everything, you know, that's what the 50 gave me the idea a long time ago. Yeah, man. I came down to visit you just for the pandemic. And I was doing some things and shit, just networking inside the city. Man, you always been in the midst, dawg. I mean, man, I... And you remember the first time we ever met? Yes. I was a soldier boy. It was a soldier boy video. Yeah, this man had a Superman outfit on. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. You can miss him, because he ran the whole video shoot. Like, he made everything, even when you ain't know what you was supposed to do, he was putting you over here. Like, I'm like, that'll pay you for this? Like, he done took over. Like... Come on, man. Hey, come on, man. Hey, I was just trying to be somebody when I ain't know nobody. Hey, man, that was the best move you could've made, bro, because, you know, taking a chance, I always get you somewhere. Hey, bro, let me tell you something. The funny, the craziest part about it, and people don't even believe, because I had, I had, it was two major videos going on that day. One was Duffle Bad Boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got them Two Chain and Lil Wayne. And Lil Wayne. And the other one was Superman. Superman, I went to the Boat Farm too. Boy, stop! Yeah! I ain't have to tell you. I ain't have to tell you. What me you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you ain't do nothing, you were going bald. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Hey, the craziest part about it, man. Shout out to Akeena, the Black Mac. Yeah, shout out to Akeena, man. Shout out to my cuzzles, Cash Camp at the time. You know, they had created the Soldier Boy Dancing. They was trying to tell me about this, this monumental movement that was going on in the city. That boy took off, man. Took all the way off. That had me out there doing the dance in the park. And like, I was ready. I was ready. Come on, man. Hey, bro, me and Duvall were talking. He was telling me, hey, yo, this song going to be bad right now. Yeah, man, Duvall is crazy, man. He was in the Tatted Up video. He was in everything. You couldn't stop him. Yeah, he wanted the first people to have the idea. That was y'all era too. Like, y'all had a couple of eras, though. That's crazy. Come on. There was a black one that smoke it. Yep. Come on, come on. OK. I remember all that. Yeah, yeah. I remember all that. We were there every video shoot there was, man. Trying to know what I'm saying. Be somebody that didn't know where we're going to land. Great era, man. Great time, man. It was a good time, man. I could have sworn that, you know, when I got to the audition for that video, that it was going to be 110,000 supermans there. I was the only one. I was the only nigga came with a superman suit on. I thought that, but I thought that, I thought that man would say something pro-living. That man said, I thought everybody was going to have a superman outfit. I had mine on. You just couldn't see it. Hey, dawg, you been a superman. You been a superman. I ain't, they had no phone booths, so I couldn't change. You hear me? You hear me? Hey, when you saw me, you were like, oh, it's already a number to get to say today. I had muscles and everything. All over my shit. All over, all over. Hey, niggas don't believe I used to be in shape, man. Niggas don't believe me. Niggas don't believe I was in shape. Man, tell these niggas, I wasn't always a fat-ass nigga, man. I don't know what you talking about now, man. I ain't, I don't see nothing. Ha-ha! Hey, man, go press rewind, man. After you back it up, then stop. Come on, man. Yeah, man, they had muscles and everything back then. Back then, Jeri Currie wig on. I had a head full of health. I had a head full of health, man. If funny how money changes the situation. Hey, man, sometimes you gotta go for what you know. Come on, man. And I ain't no shit, but I was going for it. You gotta put that miracle girl in there, son. You hear me? Ch-ch-ch-ch-chia! You just pour a little water on her. Just pour a little water on her, man. Stop! Eat on that! Barbara! Turn it up! And Lennerman is in the building. There's a spiritual right there. It's like an old, near-growth spiritual. Man, but I always wanted to ask you. Barbara! Who is Barbara? Man. Who? Who? Was it Barbara Bush? Yeah, it was Barbara Bush, man. I didn't know I was going to scream my name like that. She just so happened to be the last name I said. So it went on. I just wanted to find the most least likely people that you would think, the least likely people that you would think to have a secret tattoo. And so who would think Oprah got one? Oprah and Hillary! Like I'm talking Hillary Clinton, you know? It's like Martha Studt. Martha! In your mind, you would never think of these women. In your mind, that was what I was talking about. And Barbara Bush just came last. She was just still around at the time, you know? Barbara! Barbara Bush dead? Pray for Jesus. Is that true? Barbara Bush dead. Give the best facts. Barbara Walter dead. Barbara Walter's dead? R.I.P. Barbara. Everybody named Barbara. How about Hannah Barbara? Everybody named Barbara, T-name Barbara, brother. Hannah Barbara dead. I would assume so. You know, it's been since the 20s, ain't it? God damn! Barbara Bush, she rollin' over in her grade right now, boy. With all the cartoons. All the cartoons. That man said, with all the cartoons. Ted Turner took all them people's cartoons. I was just like, damn! Cartoon network, man. Hey, we on that side of life now, man. Hey, I tell you, you on that side. I ain't went over that yet. I didn't claim that for my damn self. Pray for Jesus. Hey, bro, I thought we was gonna start talking about Jim Brown, Tina Turner. What my age was, and I'm gonna agree with them. Yaa! Hey, Google said I would worth $50 million. Hey, I agree with them. I definitely agree with them. Because, you know, all the games that don't show, they will be real, you know what I mean? What? What? Your big head came up and he told me that I heard you would worth $50 million. Y'all didn't see him put a built collar on there. A big head came up, and I thought that shit came out. Just like it was supposed to. Big head came up. The voice, everything was there right there. Like, we made sure you played. Give me that sound bite for a drop right there. A big head came up to me. Like, remember, a golden king in the building. Told me, man, that I worth $50 million. I'm like, oh, shit. Hey, God ain't through with me yet. Man, I tell you this much right here. Let me hold some. Oh, yeah. And you got that. That's right here. Get it on record. Come on now. Come on. It ain't too much to get y'all on camera. It ain't too much to get y'all on camera. I pick it up. Hey, don't play with him. I ain't never had no problem picking that money up off the floor. Hey, niggas know about me. Wait. I ain't done anything wrong with niggas. I ain't done anything wrong with niggas. Hey, shout out to T-Rex. Shout out to T-Rex to pin up. We ain't never had no problem picking it up off the floor. He used to work at the club. Y'all ain't know what he meant when he said he used to work at the club. Come on, man. I couldn't imagine what he was doing in script. Hey, let me tell you something, man. Back when pin-ups, we used to be guys and dogs, niggas. Yeah. Hey, T-Rex, am I lying? He lying? No, man. Niggas used to dance over there. Wait. Hold up. I know you're saying niggas don't dance no more. All they do is this. Hold up. Wait. No. I thought you was hustling. No. No. You just took. Wait. Niggas don't dance no more. All they do is this. I had a G-string all that shit, man. Yes, sir. Round and round and round and round and round and get to ride it. Oh, me Jesus. Yeah, come on. Look. Come on, ride that train. I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. You know, seeing Jack come across that with a cowboy hat on. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, me DJ X-rated. Goddamn. Mr. Two Weeks Out. Hold up. Wait. The niggas don't dance no more. Hey, you know he DJ for future. He was DJ for future. Playboy. Playboy. Yep. He used to dance, though. Yes. Man. He had his head blown like Cisco. Playboy, boy. Yep. Yep. We without you. Jeff and George. Yeah. P.D., I see that. Mama there. Yeah. Hey, man. Jay told them about four people. I ain't got nothing to do with that, y'all. Hey, bro. Darl. Niggas was hustling, man. Somebody getting put out today. Oh, you ain't tell me. Yeah. Jack said. Yeah, man. We was out here freaking naked. He ain't never go down to the Silver Fox. The Silver Fox? Ain't that in Jacksonville? No, that's in Atlanta. That was out of Bankhead. That was out of Bankhead. They used to have them folks up in there. Long ago. Actually, I fell. The eight-town players got to start out there. Yeah. See, smooth them. Yeah, man. Shout out to the eight-town players. The Silver Fox? That's it. Ain't you done a motherfucker, man? Yeah, man. You know, that Silver Fox used to be the spot, man. My stuff that I always had to go get my mama from up there. I remember them fighting. What did it turn into? It was some recently. It turned into a pool palace. Pool palace, yeah. The pool palace was Silver Fox. The pool palace always had that lineage, man. They just changed the name of the business spot. It was my mama's spot before it was all a spot. You feel what I'm saying? Wow. Yeah. Some things changed and some things stayed the same. They stayed the same. And I'm glad it stayed around till I came along, though, because it created a legacy. Oh, man. I like to look at the pool palace like Cadillac records. They all did the Cadillac records in strip clubs. Without the Cadillacs, though. Without the Cadillacs. Hey, it was like everybody, man. You preaching now. You were franchise boys. Baker Road clique. You know, all of these, like K-Rap would do it, do it, do it. He had all these songs. You do it, do it, do it, do it. It was like all of these songs from that era. Yeah. Like, they are the songs. Like, you go to weddings. You go to high school, to graduations. You go to anything. These are the songs that they playing. They're going to play Lil Baby. They're going to play all of that. But you're going to get a swag surfing in there. That come from that era. Yeah. You're going to get, I just don't give a... Come on, man. Because I'm all out with it. I was with Yola every day. Yola took me to Pimpin. And that's how we made the first couple of songs. So, you know, we was all in that little... In that little... That little sail together. Get the fuck out of here, man. Yeah, yeah. Yola took me over there to Pimpin and Allen Timber. Because I ain't know nobody at Allen Timber, but that was where they were from, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I went over there and went in the studio and we dropped the money song. And when we came back to the pool paddles, it started playing in the pool paddles like a regular song. Because everybody wanted us to see somebody do something. So, yeah. Man, just when you think you know somebody. Yeah. Goddamn, bro. That was a error, bro. Believe it or not... Did some Ripley's believe it or not shit right here. Ripley's... Also, another Ripley's believe it or not. Now, is it true... Yeah. ...that you and Young Dro was roommates? Yeah. Yeah. Tell me how does that... Two talents. I'm talking about major caliber. Oh, yeah. Get under one roof before everything started. I think we had our best battles before we were roommates, though. Like, we used to steal freestyle and battle each other and stuff like that, but it was like when I used to go to El Theridge and see him on the porch on the way they were, but I was just, what's up, you ready today? Like, it was... Boy, stop. Eat on that. T-Rex ain't... He ain't came to play today. It was just like that though, man, but yeah, it was cool, man. You know, I had just got out of prison and stuff, so... Not jail. I'm still institutionalized, throwing with all that, man. Yeah. Like, man, I ain't never understand anything he said. Like... I just started understanding the nigga today. You take the collard greens and put them with the urn mustard. I was like, I ain't never had no urn's mustard. Ah! Boy, here it's been a name for something, boy. It sure will know. Yeah, but he been that same lyricist, man, ever since then, bro, I knew... Man, Dro is the greatest. I don't care what nobody say, bro. He up there with your nods and your JZ's and... 100% bro, you know... 100% You know, I always felt like that's where I grew into the antique set, like, because I had to beat Dro with the lyrics. Like, I had to go, ah! Something, you know, to even be seen in those same rooms or whatever. It was like, I guess I was trying to be seen, too. And I developed my lyrics being around them, like, you know, everything just started growing. And that's how we got the first situation, man, that we was a group because it just went good together. What was the name of the group? Typhilite Training Camp. And we had Termigun, too. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Termigun. Shout out to Termigun, too, man. That boy, y'all wrote that ad up. You believe we buckling this shit nigga? He was the first person I heard, like, coming with that style, right? They came with that bone thug style, so it was dope. Hey, you know what's wild about that? When I even think about the concept, because it's hard to even imagine. I think of, like, a down south, red and mythic man. Yeah, yeah. I don't think we was ever like that or whatever, because, you know... Y'all both got them type of personalities. It was three of us, though. Like, it was three of us, so we kind of played good off each other or whatever, you know? And when we started doing the solo song, man... Man, Joe was some of the best songs that Joe had back then. Like, y'all ain't never heard, man. He had this song called Me, Shell, that I used to just play. I remember me and Michelle laying nights in the wrong cars, me and Michelle. Like, that man, he used to be killing it. Like, way back then, like, he had them songs that just played over and over and over. Like, you know, he'd be rewinding it. Like, yeah, yeah. Been the same. That's amazing, man. Once again, I'm thinking about the concept of it. It's hard to do it. I can't fathom it. I can't fathom it. Is it? But I want to see it. Is it possible that you guys do... Y'all ever talked about doing a... like a... a drawing... Oh, I mean, yeah, we got a lot, man. I'm talking about today, like... Yeah, we got so many songs, though, already, though, that y'all probably ain't never heard. You know, I still feel like that was some of our best work, because we was around each other all the time, every day. But, yeah, man, you know, we see each other all the time. We just ain't had a chance. Joe, you know, he done went through a thing. I done went through a thing. You know, I left the country, you know, for years. I took off, like, you know. But, yeah, man, if we get that opportunity, it'll be dope, man. Man, that shit would be unprecedented. Yeah, that's my dog. That shit is crap. Yeah. I can't even imagine two of my favorite niggas getting together and putting out a project like... Oh, yeah, man. It's almost like some booze and TI-type shit. Yeah, it might be dope. Nah, it is dope. No, that's dope. We did a song a few years ago. I play both of y'all every day in the gym. Yeah, we did. I know it don't look like it. We did hook back up. And... But we did hook back up, and, you know, a few years back and did the song called How You Do That. It's online. Okay. It hard. It hard. I got to add that as my... Blame it on the drill. Like, that's on hard, too. That shit hard. Okay, okay. I'm in. I'm in. Now, you got a chance to go live in one of the places I want to end up at. Yeah. That's Japan, bro. Yeah. And then, you know, it was crazy about that, too. Even the concept of when you told me about it earlier... Yeah. ...is that a fable belonged in Japan. That shit ain't far-fetched at all. Hey, hey. Kanichi, why motherfucker? Yeah, I mean, I definitely fit in with the culture because of the comedy and the animation that I bring to the table. You know, I think, you know, that's why they gravitated towards me. But, yeah, it's a dope place. It's a dope experience. But can I tell you something? If you don't mind? The whole time I was over there, boy, I was hungry as hell. What? I wanted some neck bones. I tell so bad. They ain't had no Chinese hogs. I did. No Japanese hogs? I don't eat the hog. But, you know, I ain't had what I needed, you know, to survive like I wanted to. You know, it was great. And they had all your delicacy. You know, you had your steak and all of this stuff there. But just being able to go to the store and get a pack of chicken and just cook your own bacon in the oven just went that. I had to go get these. But one thing about it, they got so much, though, if you enter that. Like, they had the Salisbury steaks and all these different packaged up foods already. But it just remind me of a TV dinner, you know what I mean? And I couldn't just keep eating TV dinners out. You just want some good collard greens with the bone over in there or something. You know what I mean? Thank you, brother. I think I want that tonight. I think you're fucking me up right now. Hey, you know, some macaroni cheese. Too big for my chain. Too much cheese on the top. Yeah. Too much cheese. Yeah. Too much. They come way up here when you just put it on your forehead. Brawls don't even fit right no more. Duh. Hold up. Wait. Bye, bro. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. Hey, I went through it this morning. I ain't gonna even lie. I'm coming from a real place. That's the main thing, though, man, and just being homesick. You know, I advise anybody that you be prepared to make one of them trips, man. You know, if you say, I'm gonna go make this move or whatever. Just know you want to make that move, though, because I was back quicker than Flash, boy. How long you without that? I went out there a couple of times, though. I've been out there like eight or nine times. What's the longest you could stand it without your food? Boy, I was back and forth, so it just still was back and forth. Like, you know, I wouldn't just, Dad had too much business going on. You got some kids over in Japan. Stop! You ain't doin' that! You know, you went back over there for that tight ant pussy over there, huh? Puss it tighter than the ant booty hole over there. I just see what they did to Flowrider. What'd they do to him? Well, they got Flowrider good. But he, who? Pray for Jesus. I missed this. I gotta look this up after this show. Man, I think Flowrider hit Flow for, like, $500,000 a year. In child support? Boy, I pray for Jesus. Child support? Child support. In Japan. But he do have a disabled child, though, so I think that fact that he's into the cave, but that's a lot of money. Now, that is a lot of money, bro. That's a lot... A month? Nah, nah, nah, yeah. There's still a lot of money. But hold on. Flowrider just won a $75 million lawsuit with that company that's connected with Powerhead. He got it. Yeah. Me, myself, I'm gonna get it out the way, man. 18 times. I'm gonna get it out the way. I think about 60... That's not me. Oh, yeah, he good. He got about 60 million left. Nah, he... I think the baby already like six or something, though, and so he gonna be like 12 years. Goddamn. Maybe about six million. Flowrider making a lot of money. Hey, man, he still making a lot of money. He probably already had that in the bag already anyway, though. Bro, he making me feel bad about that little $71. I'm paying a week for that child support. He making me feel like I don't love my baby. Hey, man, it's always good to buy extra pair of shoes here and there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hey, I still got the shoes that I was wearing when I was little. Man. I gave my baby that. Kid be talking to me in other languages. I show mama. I show mama. Oh, my God. I don't understand. None of that. Got to be more careful. I don't understand. Now you saying... Extradition is a motherfucker. I show mama. I show mama. Yeah. That's it. I should get that put on the t-shirt much as I say that. I show mama. $500,000. Yeah. That's a lot of money. Oh, yeah. I show mama. I got to call my dog, man. God damn. They say he agreed to it and accepted it. So, you know, my memory had me in that corner like that, too. I was just like, come on, let's get it over with. You got 34 kids, though. Nah, I pray for Jesus. Uh-uh. You was before Nick Cannon. Nah, man. That was shawty, man. R.I.P. shawty low, man. Shawty had a lot of kids, man. Yeah, he did. Yeah, man. They all outstanding kids now, too, man. Yes, they are. He was a good father. Yeah. I wish they would have let him do that show. Me, too, man. With all the kids and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Show it family love. Yes. Man, I don't think it would have been where everybody else thought it was. Like, they felt like it was going to be crazy, but he was cool with all of his baby mama. You know, it might have been a little drama, but I think it was going to... It would have been a good show. Definitely, man. They blocked it, though, man. I don't know why they block it. I think that... They weren't ready at the time. Nah, it was ahead of his time. Yeah, yeah. Because I remember he was pitching. When he came to New York, he was pitching some shit like that in the 50s. He was definitely trying to get it out of the ground, man. I thought it was a great idea, like, because I knew him. Yeah. And I was like, man, it's going to be the funniest shit y'all ever seen in your life. Yeah, yeah. Shout it is... Man, R.I.P. Shout it, man. It was hilarious. Wait, when you meet him, man? Man, Shout it was always around, like, in the neighborhood. Like, he always... When I got to high school, really, and, you know, I was in the band, I used to see him a lot, because I guess he had a spot across the street from where the band was practicing it. But then I hooked up with him again or whatever, I went to ASAP with his sister. And he used to see me all the time on the bus. I was getting to fighting with the Born Home dudes every time I got out of the bus. Like, we were pulling... Because we staying in Peri-Home, so you got to thank the bus guy stopping Born Home first. And it ain't never, it ain't never end well. You know, we were fighting all the time. So he already knew me for that. But during the drought in 2002, when we really clicked up or whatever, you know, he started sending me at the pool palace and all that stuff right there. And I just went up that one day, man. It was like, hey, man, let's get it popping. You know, I think I talked to Moot B first. Shout out to Moot B. And I went up there and moved right in the car watching. We did the first album, the Ride Roll album. And after that, we did The Bet You Can't Do It Like Me. So, yeah, it was dope. Bet you can't do it like me, man. Yeah, that was the first song. A lot of people thought you laughed at the taffy cane first, but it was Bet You Can't Do It Like Me. Bet You Can't Do It Like Me was in the streets about a year. You had to be here to know it. About a year. Because the load was locked up and I was trying to deal. So, about a year. So, yeah. Man, bro. I'm talking about you taking me back. I'm talking about the good old town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gave a chance. By us being out for that year too and not having a deal, it gave our rivals a chance to put out one or two songs, you know, in that situation too, man. And nobody know we were like the heroes on the street already. Like everybody was doing the dance already. Like we already had the streets on lock. When you hear that, you can be in any club. Like no matter where you were, everybody break down to the damn boom. Like at the same time. So, I thought it was a dope time. When did you know that this is, this setting the world on fire right now? Oh, wow. When did you know? I was in jail. Yeah, you were gone at this time. Yeah, I was in jail when it started jumping off. And you got to explain that to me. You got to explain being in jail and blowing up. Because it's about like, I know about five great ass stories from five great motherfuckers. There were a lot though when they were on, on, at the same time. Yeah, I mean, we was, you know, we were going down. What does that even feel like? Man, I just, I had never experienced any type of fame before like that. Before that. Everybody were giving you their chocolate milks in jail. We had had, we had did the assets channel. Like we did, what else though? They did like an outdoor thing got in Jonesburg South. Okay. And people, RIPP, he got them through like this. He used to throw these big old concert like type things or whatever out there. Show now. And we got on that and we did the bitch can't do it like me. I went to jail like a little bit after that. So I'm in there maybe about six months when it's the assets channel. If you was in Atlanta around that time, you remember trying to 24, trying to 25. Of course. It'd be playing all day long. They played all day long. No, they didn't have cable. They didn't have BET or none of that. So a lot of houses you went in, they station was on this station all day long. And they was running that set back and forth, back and forth. So when I was in jail, all the officers thought that's you, that's you doing that dance with that green on on that TV show. And I was like, yeah, that's how I was at first. But after a while I'm like, man, that song all over the radio. They playing your song. I cannot get a picture. I'm gonna come right here and take a picture with a folk bringing a Polaroid and then to take a picture. You know what I mean with me while I was in there. And I ain't got out of jail yet. Mind you, I got locked up after the barbecue. So you're like, yeah. You still had a rib in your mouth and shit. Yeah. With your hands. With your hands up behind my back. Yeah, they had me. They got me. With the right to remain silent. Yeah, yeah, they got me. And you know, that was, that was when I knew it was real. But when I got out, you know, hotel Sheridan Hartwick. Hotel. I don't know how it used to be. Sheridan. Sheridan. Sheridan Hartwick. Everybody call him hotel. But he's where Rico Brooks. I swear, when I got out of jail, he was in the pool palace with my CDs. And they had a bitch can't do it like me on it. And me. You wouldn't matter. With the point of the first. I didn't know that fool at first. You know what I mean? And I was like, let me get a CD. And he ain't nobody seen me yet. I'm just popping out. Oh, they don't even know it's you. But yeah, yeah, he didn't even know me. Like it was a whole, you know, situation when I got out. It was, it was popping. And I guess he would, they point man, the street team and all of that, you know. Gotcha. And I walked up on him in the club or whatever. He ain't know who I was. Like you can't handle one of these CDs. These CDs for sale. And we hired him after that, you know, because he put up so much of fight with me. About your shit. That I hired. Like we hired him on to the group. And he was our road manager after that. He always did a good job too. You know, you want somebody going to bat for you like that. Yeah. That nigga was protecting you before you even. But he turned around and I got on stage and they see me do the dance for the first time. Like, you know, in person, everybody would get a chance to see because I had been gone. And everybody had been doing their version of it from what they seen on the TV show. And man, it was a beautiful feeling, man, to just see the whole entire club because the song was at the height. And they just, they just, everybody in the club brought a tear to my eye. I had some in my eye. Oh, I know how that feels. Hey, let me ask you this question. It's funny that you even bring that up right there. So song going off. It's got them changing the city, getting ready to change the world. Or you, most people being jail, they up here doing push-ups. Was you in there got them perfecting the dance and why you were locked up? I mean, I always been a dancer, period, though. And you got to elaborate on that, man, I never heard you talking about this. Yeah, I always been a dancer. Like I was always just the character. Like no matter what, when I was in the group with Jodam, like it was just still the character. Like you expected me to be, to do the antics. I was always getting into it with the promoters, getting into it with this procedure. I'm the, you know, I was that type of person or whatever. So yeah, when I was locked up or whatever, I was perfecting my craft. When I got out, man, I had all of, a lot of them songs that you hear on the D4 album already wrote, ready to go and stuff like that. They came up with the Laffy Taffy. And that was what sent it over the top. But we went through a little down period where we had to go against the counterpart because they, a couple of groups had them popped up and started doing the dance and the videos and saying they made it up because they thought we was going to be local. Nobody thought we was going to jump off, jump off. You thought that that was it. We had them fizzled out. And so everybody trying to run with it. I remember looking up at the video and I seen the Yang Yang Twins video, and I was like, damn, that dope. I thought it was the dopest thing in the world. But when I got up on them, they didn't even know who I was or none of that or whatever. And I started talking. We all still friends right through the day. But I wanted to know why y'all do it, and I didn't understand the business just then. When you taking off everybody that want to see you make it, everybody that want to copy you regardless of what, you're going to start seeing yourself in the industry. Immediately. You're going to start seeing stuff that you got or that you do or that you say immediately. Because people, they jocke you. So, yeah, we didn't understand at the time, but looking back at it for a while. Now they call that influential. Man, I won like three trend set of the year awards. Back to back. So I started realizing early on why everybody were wearing the dickies and the long socks and the white shades and, you know, all of that. I learned that early on, but it was dope though. It was a dope experience. Wow. Yeah. Now that's crazy, bro. Yeah. I thought it was going to be some local jokers. I know it, yeah. Hey, let me see you when I knew it was going to be. I won. I won. I saw more albums than all of them put together. You put all their projects together. Goddamn. You going to flex on them like that, bro? You going to flex on them like that? I saw them that I saw that. And then we went on one hit wonders because I was next song. Damn. That you can't do it like me. It went gold, too. Damn. Everybody was doing the dance. So it wasn't a one hit wonder situation. Then I came back with it, tied it up. Damn. And I was on the Cuban shuffle. So I won, soccer. Damn. Big flag. Pop my shit. Hey, bro, let me tell you something. When I knew this shit would be big. Yeah. I think I love my wife. Yeah. Chris Rock movie. Yeah. I remember that. When Chris Rock been was doing it in that movie. Yeah. And it was just like, you know, it was like, you know, it was like, you know, you know, you know, you know, it practically stayed a little bit and it was just a passive little thing. Pardon me. It was just a passive little thing. He started talking about being the old nigga in the club, doing the young nigga shit. I'll tell you why. I ain't like to see that. You know, it was funny. But when they did that shit on that Atlanta movie, the TV show, What did they name them? Lann完成 a glove with what I called,pritettes. Yeah. But they had the white supremacists up in there It's all with that move right there. It was funny as hell. I ain't gonna care. I was laughing my ass out, but I was mad as hell. I was mad as hell. But the shit was so funny, I was just laughing. I couldn't help but laugh at it because it was funny. Dahl, you did cultural shit, man. Hey, man, the shit was dope and shitty at the same time. Yeah. Come on, man. That could be a possibility. Come on, man. Hey, bruh, you said the world on fire with that one right there, man. The shit was bigger than us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts. It was some shit that was bigger than us. Yeah, man, we went straight to the big stations. Like, if that's the word I'm gonna use. Go for it. We went straight to the big stations. Like, we bypassed all the urban stations. A lot of urban stations weren't playing. I remember getting to the city one time and they was like, you can't go to this station. You gotta go to this station first. Dude, lock the limo doors. Lock us in the car. Like, y'all can't go to this station. We were just gonna kick the wonders out. We backed here like, what the hell? I'm talking about, it was a move. Like, dude, like y'all, and that's when I knew it was big. Like, these people play for real. Like, they had them bought us out to this great big old club. They got the big radio station promoting it. And we was like, well, we gotta go over here to this little 94.5 station that's over here. You know, they paid us to come to this after party. He's like, I don't give a shh. You know, you got this white dude to slick back here. I don't care who paid you. You're going to this club and this club only. And you're doing that only. And we was like, nigga, who you think you talking to? Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, hold them, lock the door on them. Like, what? They locked the door, boy. I ain't give a fuck about none of that bankhead shit. Imagine being somewhere in the desert, talking shit to somebody and they locked the door. Talking that bankhead shit, too. You thinking, man, he thought we sued. They don't know you hard, too, at the same time. Man, it hard to have nothing to do with it. It was no way out the car, but kicking the wonders out. And boy, he opened the door right while we were kicking on them. All right, they were cold. They were finna go. Like, it was over with, like, hey, but they were dead serious. But that's when I knew that it was serious, like being number one. Like, people like to show that off. Like, they want to make sure you honor your obligation if they spend the big money when you turn number one. And we didn't understand that, though. Like, we were still on that. The club on the better be on point, you know, cause we on point type of mentality. But they played a smarter game, but the limo driver was in on it. That's what I said. Everybody in on it. You thinking you by yourself. You, he by himself, but he got the limo driver to secure the guard, this person that person. And when we got to the club that night, we still kinda hot. I remember, we were still kinda hot. When we get to the club, they got the different security guard. They got suits on with it. Wires coming out their ear stuff. We just didn't say nothing for the rest. You know, we ain't say nothing to them. We knew it was a different level. Yeah, you just, you ate that and adjusted. You see somebody with a cord coming from their ear. This presidential. They back and all this stuff right here. This is a different type of club that you in. So you don't go to talk about somebody lock you in the limo. Cause you might be locked somewhere else. You know what I mean? That's the way it look. You feel me? Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore. Hey, for real. But you know, I slapped somebody on the back of the head that night. I don't know if he knew where they were for. Just to make myself feel good. What's up? Thought he did some black stuff. That was for locking me in that limo. Hey, this what everybody want to know though, man. Yeah. I mean, did you get the Laffy Taffy deal or not? No. From Laffy Taffy. No man, Laffy Taffy. Laffy Taffy never reached out. Man, Laffy Taffy was never in the equation. Laffy Taffy, hold on. Do you know how many Laffy Taffys you didn't sold off there in Laffy Taffy? They was such a major corporation that had been around for so many years or whatever. It's like, you know, it's like, what you call the people that's in the, the towel was doing the aircraft, screaming up at a UFO. It's just, you ain't gonna, you know, they wouldn't give a fuck. Like they didn't give a fuck. They was already there. Like they, and I tell you who did come though, new addition people, you know, for the Candy Girl sample. They came. They came. Laffy Taffy never came, but they came for the Candy Girl. I'm like, man, I don't know. I literally said it exactly like the dude. But I was like, dude, that was like, when I was two years old, like I ain't listen to nothing about it. Like he was like, nah, but I ain't know I said it exactly like him. Like exactly like him. Like Ralph. Like in the song. Like I ain't, You did it just like Mr. Trust man. When they let me hear it, I was shocked myself. I was dumb. Ralph came for you. Not him. They ain't own the song. Maury star came for you. Pray for Jesus. God. Damn. Big ol' dude too. I remember when we stood up to get the ASCAP Writer of the Year award, the big ol' dude stood up. I was like, where you going? Maury star. They just called me. I know him. I know him. The only person in the studio in this song wrote. Holy shit. He stood up beside me going to get the award. I'm looking at him like, where you going? He's my, I said they just called me. For some reason he was on the same road. I guess they put us on the same road. He told me, yes, sorry, Mr. Star. I'm going up right now. I was like, you the one that said I stood. I ain't still your. Candy from the skate was still right here right to the day. I just remember Candy saying, baby, just chill out, baby. Not right here. We out in California at the Kodak theater, everybody got on suits on. I ain't stole nothing from you. I knew I was in the studio by myself. I knew I ain't look done. Went on internet, no nothing involved. Bro, I just did this song. He's like, yes. I was like, you lying. And I'm telling all these people tonight, you lying. You got your little Richard on that night. No, but I mean, as I grew, I learned, but you got to think this stuff having it so fast. Like, boom, I'm just getting out of jail. And I see all these people taking credit for some I know you and in the studio. But I ain't know what the business was. Like I ain't know how, when they hit me for the sample money or whatever, it entitled him to the rights on the album too, which gave him credit, right, right of credit. So when I won- You put me on right now. Yeah, when I won right out of the year, song right out of the year, he won song right out of the year. But I was in the studio by myself. So that's why I jumped up. But he was big. I know we were gonna go rumble, rumble right there, but you know, I probably like 220 back then though. I'm probably like 206 now, but I about 220. I would gave him a run, but he probably knocked me out. Bruh, you put me on right now. Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah. They come. The business is the business. Man, I was expecting Bobby Brown to come up in there like, I gotta get something off of that, uh. Damn. I thought we were gonna be at it. I thought we were gonna be at it, work something out. But I was gonna go in my pocket like, boy, I got something for you right here, boy. Hey, can I ask you something personal? Like what about this song? All right. And the height of when y'all doing this, you know, like, I done booked for niggas before and whatnot. Like at the height of when y'all doing it, and just for that one song, how much was y'all booking for backing? It went where it is now. I mean, we, I think the highest bookings, we was getting back then 25,000, somewhere in that 30,000. That's like the most we was getting back then, you know. How many times a month you doing that? Like five, four or five, something like that. Four or five. Really? Yeah. But we done like 60 shows, so. Damn. You know. I remember getting the thing when they had 60 shows on, I'm like, I'll never go back home. I'll never wanna rap no more. I don't wanna go, I got enough money. They just gave me 150,000. They just gave me 150,000. I called my mom on the phone and I was crying. She to my baby ain't gonna never see you no more. We crying together. No, I'm just playing with it. Yeah, man. I mean, it was like that. Wow. Do you remember the first, the first wildest thing you bought? Oh, I'm, I've never been an extravagant guy. Like no kind of way. I, you know, I messed up all that money in the beginning and paid all the IRS and everybody. And then I ain't ever made no more. I've been, I've been working at Uber. Like I do Uber Eats, DoorDash. I don't got no money. You didn't buy you a food. I ain't got no money. Buy you a food. I, I, I, I, you need help with your grocery mail. I'm getting $6 here, $5 out of there. And I ain't, I ain't did a show and, ooh, that's so long. Oh man. I don't know if I can still rap. Oh man. So with that being said, what will you tell rappers that got that hot white light song out right now? What's the, what's the advice that you give? Oh man, I, that's got a hot song out right now. There's a hot song. But what type of advice is it? Financial advice, is it life advice, is it girl advice? All of the above. All of the above. Let's do that. Let's go financial advice first. Do that shit, man. Do that shit. Live it to the motherfucking fullest. I ain't gonna tell you, cause I did it. He did it. He did it. We all did it. You know, just be conservative to a certain extent, but do that shit. What does that mean conservative? I'll do that. Just do it. I don't give a, you want it, buy it. You live it. Don't let nobody tell you shit. Don't, okay. That's your money. Cause I did it. That's right. He did it. Yeah. He did it. Everybody always try to tell you why they fuck up all that money. Go fuck up your head too for a while, you know? Shat went and fucked it all up and look what he on them. So you know, do it. Do, do, have fun. Like you got, they just gave you a million dollars to go spin that shit, nigga. Just work just as hard for the next million that you did for that one. Cause your ad going to be broke. All right. All right. Let's go, let's go. Female advice. Female? Yes. Man, they hold for the streets. Don't let her eat in your ass. That's what I like though. Pray for Jason. That's what I like. Don't start me down, God. Don't start me down. Oh man. All right. Let's talk about friends. How many of us have them? The same dude that you rock with from the beginning, they're going to be the same dude rocking with you in the end. But just remember, everybody can go. So you get the pick, you know what I mean? But chew wisely. Cause some of the nigga that you leave behind could have been the nigga that could have put you where you supposed to been. You know what I mean? So sometimes it's just about guiding your friends. If this nigga don't got nothing to do, he's the cameraman. If this nigga don't got nothing to do, he's six foot eight, he's the security. If this nigga ain't got nothing to do, you gotta put these niggas to work. But if you let them just stand around you all day long and not do a damn thing, then when you do decide to let these dudes go, they're going to be the niggas on line. It's like, he ain't do shit for a nigga, man. You just got them, you know what I mean? So, you know, just watch how you treat niggas, man. But I say the same nigga that you rock with from the beginning, then the same nigga that you got to rock with in the end, and sometimes your family ain't always going to be them. Wow. Yeah, like family ain't going to always be them niggas that stand around you. Some of the niggas that's around, you might have been your next door neighbor or your high school homeboy or whatever, but you got to learn how to guide the ones that you know got that potential. So, you know, you got the wrong one. You got little cuckoo up in the motherfucker. You know, he got them. All we niggas was about to cutter break in. You try to turn them into the cameraman. Cuckoo, where you taking the picture? All right, I got you. I got you. When y'all, y'all need to picture now, y'all need picture. Picture now. Hey, hold it right here, man. Boom, you getting your car. You sitting on other people's shit. Where the hell all this shit come from? Cuckoo around with you. So, you know, you got to make sure. You feel what I'm saying? They don't realize the situation too, cause we all in that, I'm from the spot, spot. So, all your homeboy, I'm like, 60% of my homeboys had to get the pep talk, you know. What's the talk? Why ain't he seen you in a while? What's he doing? Ah! How you momma doing? Why are you staying in the car when we get over here? I know you. You had to get in the pep talk. See, everybody don't get their homeboy the pep talk when they get out the car. And then you get, man, bing, bing, bing, doom, doom, doom. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And don't nobody know what the fuck going on, but you know that he was gonna do that. Cause every time you take him somewhere, ba, ba, boom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. So why you bring him over here with these night people having fun and not get him the pep talk. This nigga had a dog show barbecue and he done started to fight. Like it's like the most gentlest place in the, the most you see on the door yanking the dog with this chain, that's the most, the most violence you gonna see at this place. And this dude done shot it up, you know. Holy shit. I don't even know what tartars are. Oh my God. I see that you bring me to another good point. Let's talk about expanding your horizons on the way up. What some shit you got turned on to and whatnot that you, you ain't even ever thought about before you blew up. Wow. Expanding your horizons. So shit you got a chance to experience. That might be a different question for somebody else because before I blew up, I was around shot low and low was already that nigga. Like anything the industry showed me afterwards I had already seen. Well, look, I was around low for a couple of years. So he had already, I mean Caviar, anything. I was just about to add, that's what I was gonna ask you. Was you eating Caviar? Yeah, low was already man. Man, we're round around listening to Jay-Z blueprint album. Like he just was all into everything. Like, you know, so I mean it's like that though when you get, when you get something, when you get that first big check, you ain't gonna know what to do. But sooner or later, you and your girl gonna be still in drink menu cause y'all buying all the shit at the house. You know that you can make drinks with cause you tired of drinking Remy. You tried to drink in Kovacea. You tired of drinking Hennie. You know what I'm saying? You talking to me right now. Yeah, so you talking to me right now. I'm gonna start still in drink menu, like all that. Man, it's gonna come to you bro. Like it depends on what you like. Like what you like, what you like to do. You wanna be tired to fuck up and beat with the mask on and all of that with a whip, then you gonna expand your room. You gonna get one in the room with chains hanging everywhere. And you gonna, you might hide somebody to be at your house every day when you come in. Whoosh, bitch ass over here. You know, I don't know what a nigga like. So. What's in this heart? Hey, me myself, you know, if I was expanding my horizon, I saying I did this, but I'm just saying, you know, when the money could come or something, if I ever had some money in life, I would have, you know, hooks and stuff hanging in front of the ceiling and I hooked myself up and then swank around the rooms a couple of times a day from the back from my arms and, you know, that's just me, you know, I'm just, I'm pain-free, so. So no, so no, I love it, I love it, I love it. Oh, let's talk about starstruck. When you first got it again, who you was starstruck to know that knew you? Like, man, get the fuck out. You talking to me? Oh, you talking to me? Yeah. You know who I am? Yeah, no, I think it was Chris Brown. I think it was Chris Brown. No, but not for real though. Yeah, my little sister wanted to meet Chris Brown and we was in the back of a concert and I already knew him from coming up on the circuit. You know, we had been in the Bahamas together, a couple more places together doing these, you know, when they showed the label, show off they knew artists and stuff like that. They do these big old conventions, you got all these artists out there and I met them at a couple of these things, but we was in the back of the show, we had them blew all the way up by this time. He was like, you know, he was who he was, messing with Rihanna and all of these things right here. And we was behind backstage at one of these shows and I kind of got the nerve to build up to go over there. Like, man, my little sister, want to take a picture with you, you know? And he was like, Fable, boy, what's up? I ain't seen you in a while, boy. And came across the parking lot and with a lot of energy and shit. And I was like, where's Jesus? You know who I am, like, you remember me? And yeah, I think that was a wild moment, you know? Cause I had already met up, I'm from Atlanta. Like you see stars every day. Like I used to be hanging out with Andre Ryzen and them. Bruh, it's the second time, it's the second time. First episode, we talked about it, we talked about it. We talked about Andre Ryzen, first episode. Hanging out with Andre Ryzen, like that though, but you know, I had been in the circles and been around just that glamorous lifestyle to where, you know, you've been in the office buildings and all of this stuff and you've been around people that's already had it. Like I remember going over the run from 1-12 house. You that's my nigga. And you know, I'm just trying to make some music. Wow. I'm thinking I'm going to a regular studio. I get up there, man. It's like staying in the big neighborhood. You got this great big old house and all that or whatever. And dude, really talented. He just sat down at the piano and started playing. And I might've just wrote like 30 songs right there just because you with somebody who you in tune with, like, and he already got it. Like he, and he's still passionate about it. Like, like, you know, you have to run into these type of people to guide you, you know, in your career. Like, so when I seen a lot of stuff, it didn't impress me, you know, cause I had already been around it. Like, you know, definitely been around it. I'm going over cool to see how seeing the yin-yang twins for the first time. We all sitting in that nappy head as hell and cool to see and they're doing the beats and then they're doing twin lily. Like, they playing around with it. Like you feel them playing. So I just, that just being in a lot of different rooms at a lot of different times, man, it was dope. And it's funny that we, this is, this, that was the intro to this question right here. Yeah. You're a cultural icon. I got a lot of work to do. You don't know my man, the biggest rapper in the world right now. Snapping like you favor. Oh yeah, yeah. That was awesome. But this is what I want you to know, is you were doing it like that before that. And when people saw you in that light before that, you that guy, like even when you were locked up. Yeah, when I came home, my name was in the song on the radio. Where's Han in there? Where's Han in there? Fable showed me the central movements. I was like, I don't even know this nigga. And then I met him. I was like, oh, that little mark from back here. He, I did show it to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little mark, not from D4L, but from Banking. I hadn't heard the song. I ain't know who he was in there. It didn't take you long to be legendary, bro. Man, that's just, it's fun, bro. Just knowing that, you know, there's a lot of people going through the same thing I'm going through. And I could just tap into that mindset, you know. Show now. With these songs. Like, I feel like I'm doing the same shit that he doing every day, you know. And that's, that's dope. When you first heard Drake do that. Like, I remember, I'm in, I'm in New York. And mind you, I'm over here putting on for Atlanta. I'm like, like niggas didn't already did it before, but that was my thing up there. Just letting niggas know that I'm from the A. And I'm up here working with one of the kings of New York and whatnot. But I'm representing the A. Good job, boy. You had a good job for a long time. Yes. Yes. The only one in that spot. Like, nobody else wasn't doing that what you was doing at the time either. Just not scared to tell the news. Say that. Yeah. Say that. Yeah, people, I had them about it, like. You, but if we just say groundbreaking, you were one of the dudes that started this podcast. I don't get, I don't get no, I deserve a golden globe. Because y'all was basically doing what everybody do in the podcast right now. I was sitting here. I started that shit. Oh boy. Sitting there. I'm their daddy. Y'all talking about all the news. I'm their daddy. You talking cash, shit, about everybody and niggas on line. Getting it rap, beach, and all that shit. Yeah, like, you was already about to get beat up by five different people. Like, I remember like, I was like, man, Jack, I know you ain't bout all that. He on TV talking about, when I see him, he know what it is all about. Ha, ha, ha. I was like, I say the same thing, too, though. Ain't nobody going to help me. I would fit the set, niggas, what the fuck, nigga? Yeah, nigga, you on it, niggas. But he made it work, though, man. But I think that pressure was the reason why you started doing so many other things because it wasn't time for that yet. No, no, actually, you're saying it right. But it was in reverse. That time was over. I was coming, like, now I'm talking about far as, like, right now, everybody doing what you want. Oh, yeah, they're part, they're part. I'll talk about you and be standing at a party. Yes, they're part, yeah. You know who these bloggers is. Yes. You had the big part of the day out on the highway, right? Yeah, by myself, too. I was out there by myself. If you say something about me and I see you on the red carpet, you know, I'm telling you, we all heard it with me. You feel what I'm saying? So just know that I can be the coolest person in the world, but I can't stop that person right there. So nowadays, they right here, like, you know he is here. You get killed now. Talking about your babies and kids. It won't fly now. Yeah, it's a crazy place. Yeah, I had came behind, like I said, 50 cent. And what you do, the street lord was, like, unprecedented. So I had a license to do it. I had a license. I had a license. I'm talking about some of the hardest niggas wanting to bust my ass. Whenever they said you did, well, Jack. I did it. I did that shit. And I wasn't scared at the time. Man, I'm looking at the team of Jack Korn. Man, whatever they want to do, we can do it. We can do it. I'm ready to die for this shit tonight. I can see a sort of thing going, hey, can you call him on the phone to tell him? If you don't mind. I had to do it in the drink. If you don't mind. Yeah. Do you have any more grapefruit on? But, hey, man, I feel like when you got the industry in that corner like that, you got to keep putting them hands on them. When you get them up against the ring road. Hey, listen, let me say this. I had no problem with fighting you. But I didn't want to. I believe I can die. I ain't doing this. I believe I can die. I believe I can die. That was a little boy hot, though, boy. It was hot. Bruh, I knew I could have died. It was hot, boy. But I was like, hey, man, I got to roll the dice. But Joe Bratton, who else? Academics, say cheese. All of them. It's a lot of hot that you know that now. Yeah. Making millions. Millions. They putting it down like. I didn't understand the business back then. Me and Adam 22 was talking about it. Just like, man, bro, you was just before your time. You away. I didn't get it. Because Adam is basically doing the same thing you were doing. He was doing the same exact same thing. Same layout. That's what I'm saying. You was on the same. All of them are. You got your co-host. I'm playing catch up now. I'm playing catch up now. Trying to get it right. Trying to go. But you just started, though. But every time you start up, though, it's always a process. So don't worry about it. It's going to fall right into place. I'm glad you had me on. So I can talk shit. Will you come back with me? Elma, who stole my shoes in gym. Fuck you. Go cap. Whoever broke my locker at the gun club swimming pool. I hope you got them dog died of night. Got them. I just want to say that I ain't never said this. Do it. This is the place to do it. This is the place to do it. Damn teacher that said I ought not. Just to play get it off your chest, man. Get it off your chest. I'm for real about you, Elma. Elma. When the last time you met a mother fucking name. That nigga's grandma name him. Come on, man. Nigga sound like some glue. Come on, man. Come on, man. And yo, not to get away, because like I said, did you ever get a chance to meet Drake? Man, I haven't met Drake in person. But I had a chance to meet Chubbs and a lot of the other some members of the crew and we hung out CIA wireless or right before I did the two slide record. Oh, wow. And I hooked up with vintage tunes and we put together the two slide record and it got added to our heart radio. So they never stopped it. They never cut it off. It ended up on the radio and all of these places. So you know, somebody had to push it. So I would like to think that the interactions idea had with some, they thought I was good people. No, 100%. I'm running to a one day, man. You know, I definitely appreciate the shout outs and everything I've seen with the Spaceship's on Bankhead shirt on it, on his page and all of that, you know. Amazing story. Yeah, we don't have some back and forth, but you know, I ain't met him personally. Yeah. Amazing story. Can you tell us about that record? Yeah, Spaceship's on Bankhead. Oh, Spaceship's on Bankhead. Tell them how that shit came about. I heard the story one time. And I was blown away. I didn't know it was that complex. Nah, man, the Spaceship's on Bankhead. I ain't know what's supposed to happen. Actually, you know, it was a slower version first. And everybody be geeked up and they be sitting around and I just had said it on the song. And you had all these people, they were playing Gucci, they was playing GZ, it was that time right there. You know, T.I. was killing them around in that time. Bonecrush, all of that stuff was out. Look, John, you know, everybody was out. And I had made this slow version of the song. That's all I said. And I wish these haters leave me alone. And I had it running through a whole, like, little thing. I think I did something for young money. I don't know if you remember this song I did for them. That Why Me Move Two Step, Why Me Move Two Step. I had that beat for them that night, that thump thump. You know, everybody was jammed to that. That song was on that CD. So every time they gave away one of the CD with the two-step on it, it had to geeked up on it. So everybody walking up to me to my, man, they geeked up so hard. But it went on the song, it was just me sitting there singing that little end part that you hear. And so it let me know people wanted to hear more of that. And my homeboy passed away. And I can't touch the studio. I ain't had nothing to drop, no song gone or nothing like that. So I pulled the MPC out, the MPC 3000. And whatever song that was already in the MPC 3000 was like, One Bass, and I made the geeked up off of that, like the thump thump. So that's why I ain't got no clap in it. It's got that thump thump thump. That was my clap because I ain't have a clap. And then I just brought the verse and said, I'm geeked, I can't see it with the high hat and made the whole song. So yeah, it was dope. Now the process of getting it actually in rotation. Nah, that ain't gonna happen. Everybody knew from where we were from knew it geeked up, man. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people's on crack. Yeah, yeah. So everybody quickly assumed it was a crack song or something. But nah, but I had to tell them, like we were a different era. Like, you know, everybody from our era on the pills and you know, they were just really in, they ain't know nothing about the ex pills. They ain't know how they had to hit the streets. Like it was, it was epidemic. You feel what I'm saying? That by this point. And you know, everybody I knew was walking around with a 10 pack or something. Like I ain't never seen nobody who ain't have a 10 pack on like Superstar or not. Like whichever one it was. And they didn't know anything about the new craze. They was like, nah, this pookie song. I'm like, nigga, I'm not pookie. I'm sitting here with bricks and this and that. Like we, look at these cars and this jewelry. Like, do we look like pookie? Like, and people's like, nah, that's crack song. So they kept turning it off. I did the big shows, the jingle jams and stuff like that. They turned the song off while I'm in the middle of performing. But I think that just blew it up more though in Atlanta. And I ain't ever do a video to the song. But really all the way, they used to turn the song off. They turned the song off. The label would not do a video. Because it was just like, they didn't know it was coming. All my friend was taking pills and. You knew that was a wrap. I knew the music was about to change. And I was like, that's why I ain't never do another Laffy Taffy type song. Because I knew that it was going to go to some totally different. In a year's time, the music totally changed. It just flipped over. You ain't hear no more of those songs. That's how you got your soldier bars and the other stuff. It had to be a little bit more, like it was going to somewhat totally different over there. But over here, you had your young thugs and these guys coming. Like they was coming. That music was just catching up, like boom. And then you got young thug and then everybody behind him. So I knew it was about to change. And I think with that, Richard McQuarn, I think the Yolas, the K-Raps with the, she fine. She say, she cool. She's a Georgia pitcher. She like to get the music was changing. Like it was about to go somewhere totally different because of these pills. Like I knew it. Hey, bro, it's funny that you say that. Because I remember at the time, when I heard Geeked Up, I thought it was the new way to say Cron. I used to be inside my turquoise Christ Little Baron with the top down on that motherfuckers in the light. You way off. You, you was way off. I was, I was, I was, I was out of line. What are you doing there? I was out of line. Way off. Yeah, it was wrong car. Man, I mean, but even for the food that, the first food, and I will say food, that sat down at his desk and decided to write an article and said, this is called snap. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck did you think of? Like, what was you thinking? Like, like you named the whole era just, I don't know whether you were just being funny or what, but you could have asked somebody and they all would have said it's Geek Music. Like you hear Pee Wee long way. You're sneaking and geeking and sneaking here future. You're geeking on every song. And now the word is in literally every song made the way that, you know, it was intended to be interpreted. You changed Geek, because like back in the day, yeah, back in the day, Geek was straight from, got down, say about a bell. Yeah, nah, but it was like, yeah, Geek meant a nerd, something like that, but in the hood, we all knew Geek in meant, you know, your uncle or somebody smoking crack, something like that, you feel what I'm saying? I was like, I'm buying more ounces of weed than my uncle could ever think about paying five dollar for a crack. I'm drinking, I'm drinking, well back then, 10 dollar, five dollar, you know, whatever they give it for. I didn't know that. Pray for Jesus, don't be trying to find out the prices and stuff either, that stuff, oh, don't go backwards, go forward. Don't you buy no ugly truck? Yeah, they got that blew up out that number, you don't want it, boy. Yeah, yeah, sir. To my boy. Yeah, yeah. You're stealing TVs and stuff. Yeah, we got that. With the ass on it, not even a new, not even a flat screen. Yeah. Not even flat to do them talking about the one with the big ass back on that bed. But we felt like, you know, we were doing way more than that, so it just turned into like a term in Dear Men for us too, I guess, like, you know, I'm geeked up, so we smoke a blunt. Like, I'm geeked up. Like, boy, you sitting there looking at, you don't smoke two blinds, like, well, I'm geeked up. It just became a part of our conversation too. And so everybody knowing that, I just brought it to the light. Like, you already knew if you were where I'm from, what the word geeked up meant. And so everybody worked for the radio stations, they knew it too. Like, it's like, we ain't playing that. Hell nah. We ain't playing, but I'm like, you the only one know what they mean. Like, yeah, but in every other neighborhood, they know what it means to them. Like, yeah, so that's why I'm saying it. And I intended for it to be interpreted. That's how they eventually interpreted it. Like, so that was dope. When did it break though? When you feel like the floodgates had them broke open? Oh, I mean, when Jesus sent that song, like, he's thinking. Hold on, so Jesus broke it? Like, I felt like it was in the street and it was bunking, but we were so big with the laugh and taffy. Like, I'm not thinking geeked up as, you know, like you gotta think of the levels. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I'm not thinking this song that's number seven on the album that I did by myself, like people, you know, gravitating toward it. You see what I'm saying? And I came home one day and I'm in the club and they played it on their own. Like, I'm like, what the hell? And the whole club started saying the words to it. Like, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like this, you know, you had that one little moment. But then when Jesus sent the song, it was like, hey, boy, I got your nigga. You know what I mean? Now for this one, remix. And that's when I knew it had spread, you know, and I had to start paying attention to it. Yeah. And every city, every Oakland, Detroit. I play that in the gym over in New York, in the mornies. Missouri, like. I know what it don't look like. Yeah. I play that. Everywhere I go, man, it's like they anthem. Like, like right to this day, like I just came from Oakland, bro. Like, and when I tell you, if you stay somewhere else, like Florida, it's different places you go that they don't play your music, bro. They playing this music that's over here. Like I was in the club for, I don't know, maybe two hours. And I didn't hear one song that I normally hear in the club 17 times a night from this DJ down here. And I mean, bro, they got their own wave. And but when they played geeked up, it was like I'm crossing over into that world. They going down my foot, like everybody in the club. Like, and I'm like, man, it was a greatest fear watching them way over here, Oakland. And they, the whole club going crazy. Somebody got me so hyped up, I was in there sweating like a fool, man. Like, man, you just dancing. Like that's, that was crazy. I think that was like Detroit, another place. Like the other day, Jesus did a show up there. He just turned the music off. And it's like 2000 people in there just saying in my verse, that was crazy. Shout out to Jesus. Oh yeah. She was dope. To be dope. Hey, bro, did I tell you that I played that song in the gym? In the morning, in the morning, it might not look like it. Yeah, it might not look like it. Yeah. I get big. Yeah. Come nigga, come on, man, T-Rex. Man, turn that shit up, T-Rex, man. What the fuck, man? Come on, man. Can you show us our workout routine? Yeah. You know, they really believe you now, because there was some people that had some doubt. But I think you just changed all of their mind. Bruh. I think you just changed all of their mind. I fucked with that shit, dawg. It do that to you. Why, stop! It's infectious. It's infectious, man. Yeah. You are what the young people call a vibe. Yeah. I'm starting to see spaceships on banks. I'm talking about the shaking and the jittering. You have your own. It's only one FABO, bro. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you something. I know you didn't see it, but I ain't never seen it. And it's not just because I can't see that good. Yeah. I've never seen nobody do the new version of FABO. I've never seen. You know how people keep on, what they say is imitation is the greatest form of flattery? I've never seen nobody take on the shit that you do. Yeah. And do anything FABO-esque or get inside your pocket. I don't ever know. I'm about to do it. I've been seeing these memes all the time. It's so holy ghostish. It's spiritual. I got this one gift for me online. I got these red pants on. And I'm at this show and you can hear everybody going, call FABO, call FABO. And they ribbing me up and I kind of go up on my toes and stuff. Like, they trying to call a moment of that. But I didn't know I was going to do that. Like, it was just the beat drop, the music hit. And I just, you know what I mean? It just happened. But to see it on Twitter, just like, every, if you happy, I can't think, I think that's when it come up. Like, for happy, a Kronka, whatever, you know, it's a gift. And I just be like, man, these people is crazy, man. I didn't even try to do that. Like, it ain't that cool to me or whatever. I can do it better. I should have did it better. But the message is, you have children. Can they do it? No, no, no, no. They know the songs, I mean, you know. But they can do it like you. Yeah, I can't do it like me. Like, I don't know if that makes sense. You said some real shit right there. I got certain moves that I could do again. But a lot of that stuff you see is just like me catching the Holy Ghost or something. Like, it just comes in that moment. I was with Swamp Izzo. Holy Boat. Swamp Izzo used to be my DJ. And so me and Swamp was in Germany. We were going to all these different places to go to Iraq, we went everywhere. And I seen somebody ask him in the interview the other day. He was like, used to DJ for FABO? He's like, yes. What was that practice and routine? Like, then they said, we never practiced. Like, we never. Because I don't never know what song I'm going to do. If I'm going to a set, then it's cool. Like, I already know I'm going to have to send these songs in. And I got to perform these when I get there. But because of the different dynamics of my music with, I might get to one of these riding clubs. And it's all dudes. And I want to hear Scotty. And they unpack the club out for that. Like, they in there. And you get in there. Like, 30 people in the front just on that Scotty vibe. Y'all could have came with the CD already made. And this guy Laffy Taffy has the first song. Like, it ain't going to turn out well. Like, you know what I'm saying? But a lot of my shows nowadays, because of the Tatted Up, Blowing Up, and all these different TikToks and all of that, I see a lot of girls in the front. So when I come out, you know, nine times out of 10, you're going to get, like, five girl songs off the rip. Like, you see what I'm saying? So that's what makes the show better than me. Like, I don't know who's going to be in the crowd. How can I tell you where DJs are always like, tell them to send me the songs and give me the lineup. I'm like, how the hell am I going to know the lineup? I don't know who in the crowd. Like, I get you the lineup and I walk out on stage and you start playing this old dancing shit. You know, it ain't going to go all the way. Because we got all, we be in all different modes or whatever. It's like, you can catch me. I'm at a, you know, wedding reception. I'm at a, I might do the Cupid Shuffle. And you feel what I'm saying? But when I get to, you know, Club Crucial and the 2,000 people in here, the new Cupid, that ain't going to work. Right, right. This is amazing. It ain't going to, because I got all these different songs. So like, you catch me in the barbecue, you know, whole family out there. I'm a new Cupid get down, do your move. Oh, brand new shoes, Shuffle. I'm going to have that fun face on them be. Like, you catch me around them niggas, nigga, I'm going to get up, I can't see. Oh, the walls keep looking at them. And they all gathered around and we looking at each other, nigga, this is a vibe. Like, I got all these different vibes. Like, you know, it's just depending on where you catch me yet on how we going to kick it. Word. Yo, you got my head spinning right now, man. That's dope. I'm seeing a whole bunch of different ideas and stuff. Yo, T-Rex, you fucking with it right now? Yeah, I'm with you. Don't know other artists ever do it like that. They always, they force feed the crowd as to what you're going to get. This is what you're going to get. This is what I came with. He going off the vibe of the crowd and he doing all that. And I hate to be at the shows when you fools get up here and y'all looking and rapping straight to me because the crowd ain't into it. I'm like, go back over there. Like, go back over there on that side of the stage. Like, because they always put the VIP on the stage or right by the stage. And whoever the dude is that got, he know his songs hit though for all these people. But tonight they just ain't feeling them because, you know, maybe I went first. Maybe it's some other stuff going on or they waiting to see the show. Regardless of what, don't come over here and start rapping to me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that is, I don't know what to do. That's the new song, Don't Follow Fable. Don't, don't rap to me. Don't fuck, bruh. Don't follow Fable. These are the moments where you create show character. Like, you create something that makes, pull them in. Me and Goldie were talking about this earlier. I was telling them about it was just a... You sang the wrong song first. Yeah, you sang the wrong song first. Don't intimidate me. You sang the wrong song first. You got to, if your song, if my song ain't gone good, I'm turning around, look at it, DJ. Cut. Instantly. I'm not finna sit here and do the whole rest of the song. Like, everybody sit there looking at it and be like, I love this song on the radio, bruh. You ain't coming out with it today. Like, you just turn it off. Bring it back, lay it on. Very, very funky. I seen Cool in the game the other day and they started out with Celebration. But it was like, I watched the whole hour and a half long show on YouTube. But they stopped it. But they got the crowd so hyped up, they ran through the whole set. And, you know, I seen little break dances out there on the floor killing it. You know, they were doing their thing. And then at the end, they brought the Celebration back. Boom, they killed it. Like, you know, but they... I mean, it's a way you start, you know, they knew what their crowd wanted to hear out of the rip, which was a Celebration, number one party song in the world. And boom, they hit them with a little bit of something that came out on stage. Like, don't come out on stage doing the jingle jam and know nobody, know nothing about that. Get the jingle jam. Do the jingle jam. And you're trying to make everybody in the crowd do it and they just looking at you like, jingle jam your ass on out of here. Like, and you just force feeding it down on the head, brother, you know, do you want to hold the crowd? Boom, boom, boom. Ha, boom, boom, boom. Ha, ha, ha. Then you bring them down a little bit, talk to them. How y'all doing? You kill about four, five minutes like that. Then hit them again. Boom, boom, boom. They tell you got slide across, stay with... Hold your arm up, hold for it. Then come back. Like, you got to get to them. Like, you feel those people spent 20, 40, $60, maybe $100 to come to the concert for you to do this in your training. I don't know, they need choreographers like this. Like, how old boy did it on the fire? Beat nothing to your ass down. Let me show it to you. Yep. You know. Boy, you ain't shit. Just like I thought. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Show them, dresser. Show them. Cat that. Yeah, man, but I mean, it's like that though, but I don't know if somebody's skipping past it nowadays. And he thought he was killing it. He thought he was killing it. He thought he was killing it when he hit that more. Show them. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, we saw what you had got on that ass. Yeah, man, if your show ain't working, turn that shit off. Hey, bro, you put me on right now, man. I got so many ideas that's flowing through my head and shit. Man, I'm like, hey, bro, you know, I got like, you know, that's about five, six more questions for you, man. I know you got some more famous shit to do, but I need you to come back and fuck with me on this show. Hey, man, I'm here, bro. I need you to come be regular with me on this show, man. I'm lying to hangin' out with that thriller, man. Yeah, because we talked about this a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? Love, live, dress up where we belong. Nah, I don't know what you talkin' about. Okay, that was your mic. Okay. I don't know what you talkin' about. You were here. That was runnin' off my head right there. Ah! Yeah, man, but I get it. Yeah, it did, it did, it did. Let's talk about the $2 bill thing, man. You know, New Face just hit me up, and he was like, hey, man, I don't know how the fuck he knew you was comin' here. But he was like, hey, man, can you sign it? Sorry, I had to just face New Face with that. Yeah, he with that, man. And he fucked me up, man. Because, you know, I can't see my phone because I got glaucoma and shit. I let Siri read my phone. That's the only thing. He said, New Face says to just send you a message. And he said, and he said, yeah, make sure, motherfucker, you get a favorable, they got damn signed your $2 bill. What does he mean by that? I don't have a $2 bill. Nah, I used to give out $2 bills for my autograph. So a lot of people in the beginning got $2 bills as my autograph. So a lot of people walkin' to me and write to the dates. I still got that $2 bill you gave me, you know, back then. So that's been 16 years. $2 bill. Let me have that $2 bill for 16 years. I be like, nah, that ain't the same one. They were crisper though. They was fresh out the bank though. I got like, I think I got like $6,000. I ordered like $6,000 of them. So you got $6,000 to give away. It took me about two years to give them all the way. Yeah. I still had about $4,500 in my closet about a couple of months back. I had found about $4,500 all the way forward. You spent it, or you? Nah, I still got some of them, like yeah. Wow, man. Now what was the significance in that for you? I mean, I wanted everybody to know my name with $2 because when I was in jail, they put Fable on the album. But all my friends called me $2, you know what I mean? So that would've probably been my rap name. But the album was already pressed up, ready to go, I was in jail. And so I couldn't stop it or whatever. So every song after that, that I did after that, you can hear me go, it's $2, what's that in there? Stop $2, stop Fable. I just started making $2 a different character so you wouldn't know he is this. Because somebody else named me. Everybody from school called me Fable. If you grew up with me, you called me Fable. You were in school with me, you called me Fable. You know what I mean? How'd you get Fable and how'd you get $2? But I'm just saying, I felt like you split me in two. I felt like that at the time. Like, damn, they just split me in two. Because I still, you know, everybody called me $2. You used to call me to my what's up $2. I'm like, everyone of my friends, you know what I mean? Was you always, you always had $2 on you? No, no, no. You know, your grandma always told you $2 was good luck. Some, you know, you take me in the script club, I can actually double the cost of living overnight. People get stacks of ones that look good. So you get stacks of $2 bills, you got to get double the stack. Hey, hey, Goldie just got damn came through. Oh, man, this man. You know what this is, right? Y'all look like one of them $2 bills, too. Cause it crispy. Could you hook your dog up, man? Man, if you don't mind. Let me come over here inside that $2 bill. In the name of Jesus. Man, new face, I don't know how you got up doing stuff on here, and you ain't even here. This the new Jack Thriller City show, man. In real life. New face was here. That's crazy. Good stuff, Jack. Man, thank you, man. This is nuts. I'm a part of history right now. Yeah, man, facts, man. $2 FABO, $2 FABO, what's ha-nah-nah? Hey, bro, I don't know if you older than me or not. But how was you able to- I'm definitely not. No, okay. I'm the youngest. Me tell you, I'm younger than that, too. What I do wrong with my headline, bro? Man, look, I got a baby picture in my phone, with my forehead bended big. I was in high school. They used to call me Michael Maia when I grew my hair, cause I ain't had no hairline. It was just a background like this. So when I grew my hair, I looked just like Michael Maia. Red hair, just crazy. I ain't, my hairline, I don't know. I can't give you advice cause I ain't losing my hair. I know. My forehead just big. I know. You see what I'm saying? And I just- You still look exactly the same as when I had on the Superman suit. My forehead is this big. I look like my daddy now. I keep drawing to me all night. Boy, stop. Here done that. Keep drawing to me with my forehead. You wrong. I'ma put the picture up. You wrong. And the only reason why I don't put the picture up cause I had a little ugly part in my head and stuff. Like this. My uncle had cut my hair. You know how your mama had your uncle cut your hair? Yeah. It was too big. Super part. Yes. Yeah, yeah. They used to call me Super Bowl, man. When you put that bowl around my head and shit. I had one of the worst fades. You would ever- My fade was faded. I had the ball head with the ball spotting the motherfucker. Part was all the way off. My fade was faded. Yeah. Yeah, man. Man, yeah, man. Look, the day I took the picture though, my mama swung at me and I knocked the whole background down after they took the picture. Chotted. When you see the picture though, I knocked that picture down. But I'mma post it up so you can see my forehead. That's why I spent the money for the pictures. And when my mama got that, that was when they told her that they had my picture money. Holy shit. I thought they were mine, mama. You gave it to me when I walked out the door. I thought it was mine. You know damn well we weren't paying for no pictures. We kept all the proofs. Well, I went to- kept all the proofs. I had everybody at the candle later, huh? Come on, man. I had 14 whole dollars. Come on, man. You know how much money, 14 dollars into an eight-year-old? Hell, yeah. Boy. You was a millionaire. But you better believe it. Boy, I still got two girlfriend to this day because of it. Come on, man. Hey, tell us something that we'd be surprised to know about Fable, man. Are you a gamer? Yeah. You'll be surprised to know that I kick anybody ass and water come back. 11. 11. I am the motherfucking man. Me and my whole crew. You still gotta play somebody in my crew before you play me, though. You showed nothing to crew. I got a homeboy. I got a homeboy. Just took a trip with me. And my brother been playing the game all my life. Every time I can't play him, I can't beat my brother. If he played a game two or three times, I wouldn't be able to beat him in the game again. But the more I come back, it's different. Just something about it. So he gets in the back seat and plays my other homeboy. He beat him on a seven-hour trip, almost 99 to 100 games out of the two of them. He ain't never let him win a game. I got back there and beat him on the first game. Wow. You know. And I beat him with a broke justice because he had been playing them the whole time. He had me the justice. He was like, nah, I ain't gonna play you with the justice. I was like, nah, get the justice you had. He was like, nah, now get the justice. And I got the justice. It was broke. So the whole time he had been playing them, they had a real justice. He had a broke justice beating them every time with the broke justice. Then we gave me the broke justice. He knew, you know what I mean? He needed that advantage. I still beat him, though. Best Christmas you ever had? What year? Never. Never? I was always locked up. I got to sometime come to go. You were locked up every Christmas? Eric Krumm. For about five years of my adult life, I was locked up every Krumm. So best Christmas I ever had was probably the last Krumm. And what made it so dope? Nah, man, I mean, the Christmas is from maybe, I want to say 2018 to now I'm probably was dope or whatever. You know what I mean? That's about all I can say about that. I mean, every day is a holiday. You know that, right? That's how I feel. How they pick certain ones that they celebrate the most, though. Like, you know, tomorrow is White Rose Day. Like, you know, tomorrow is National Blunt Smoke Day. I don't know what day it is. They tell me every day is something, though. Like, you know, this is National Aunty Day. You know, you don't be getting them texts and stuff through the Facebook. I do be getting them all at the booth. But it sounds like how we choose which ones that we celebrate the most. Now you got National Thot Day. Yeah. National Regidae. What? No, no, you're going to be on that one yourself. Not National Midday. Like that. You got to excuse me having that booth. You can bring your Regidae outside with the seeds and all on this day. Now, I'm just saying, how do we determine what day is like? OK, so why don't we celebrate Mother's Day, Father's Day, like we celebrate Mother's Day? All right. How come I ain't got nothing for Father's Day ever? I don't want none, though. I'm just like, don't beat me up out there. I don't want none. But I'm just saying, I see all the people on the corners with the roses and the cars and all the bathroom body works all over and the thing. And you know, you got to go. Later, try to charge me $175 for three pieces of soap and a bell with some rolled up fake roses. $175. Now, she knows she stole this stuff. Like, shit. They don't try to put the plastic around like the Easter bands give you. Yeah, like the Easter bands give you. Like, they can't do it. I'm just saying, how come on Father's Day, you ain't out there with neck ties and, you know, brand new joints and stuff or whatever, you know, some men's cologne, all kind of. Where them Father's Day basks? Why you ain't in front of the wings and things with the Father's Day basks? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Because that where they be at in front of the wings and things and the car washes. Yeah! They going to confine you. Yes. I'm just saying, how come we don't celebrate D-Holiday like we celebrate criminal? That's right. That's right. I did that. I did that. That's all right. So, every day is a holiday when you're living right. Come on, man. You talking about some real shit right now. The kids are always getting presents and stuff. It ain't got to be, you know, so I don't want to play station. I'm buying the day. It ain't going to make them wait the Christmas. Like, then everybody else get to play at two months before them, you know? So, yeah, every day is a holiday when you're living your life right. If you get up every day and you go to work, you get that check at the end of the week. This is your day. This is your kid's Christmas day today. Like, then you're going to treat them. Let's go to the movies. Let's go to this day and another, you know what I mean? I feel like when you separate days or whatever, you know, you lessen what you're doing on a day-to-day basis. You understand what I'm saying? 100%. Like, every day, you know, my kids can get it. Like, you ain't got to wait the criminal. That's how I feel. Like, you say, I ain't going to celebrate no day really more than I celebrate the lab. I'm going to wake up, smoke my blind. Got to end the same way I did yesterday. I might go out there and sit in the cottage time and listen to a new song, but it's going to be different. That's all the difference it's going to be. If somebody might walk up the day, I might let them hit the blind. I don't know where it's going to make the day different from yesterday, you know. Hey, let me ask you this, man. Best advice you ever got? That's the advice I ever got. Still haven't received it yet. Worst advice you ever got? Haven't received it yet, because I've tried something. Do something. I ran in the store one time with the presents. Ain't nobody tell me shit. Evidently. I ain't listen to my mama. You know, but no. I mean, every day is a learning experience, bro. And without each and every experience, whether it's good or bad, I wouldn't be who I am, where I am. So, you know, it shaped and molded me into who I am. It gave me this persona. When I'm online, there's millions of people tuning in to hear me go, boy, stop. You ain't doing nothing. It's like, I wouldn't have got to that point if I didn't go through everything. So yeah, the worst advice that I ever got, I don't think I don't receive it yet, because I'll still do some crazy shit. Like, you know what I mean? So, you know, I don't know. And the best advice I ever got, I'm in the same situation I was in. You know, when I started, you asked me, you feel what I'm saying? And I'm still waking up in the morning with that same drive, that same hunger. You know, I got to make a song. I got to figure out what's going on. You know, I got to get here. I got to pay this bill. I got to do that. Like, I wake up every day, like trying to figure out where it's going to come from the same way as if I'm running up, getting up in the morning, backing up these things. I used to do that. And I'm trying to make sure all of you, five, you know what I mean? Three, four, ten, all this shit ready. You know, I got to answer it for the fifth day, whatever the situation was. I worked the music game the same way I used to work the trail. So, every day is a learning experience. And you know, it's funny that you even say that too, because I don't ever remember one time I've ever seen you, came across you, that you were different. You always been upbeat, happy, jovial and whatnot. I never see you on no bad day. Oh, I have some shit today, but you know. I know you have some shit. I have some shit today, but I mean, you know, it's just good to smile, man. It ain't everybody be into what you're going through. You feel me? Yeah. Man, I done been through some shit, bro, like, you know, and yeah, man, it's just a wonderful world. When you wake up every day, you get a chance to breathe and step off your front paws, like, well, somebody ain't got no arms and no legs. Like, I don't know how I would look at it, but I mean, it's every day is something different for me. Like, I get to do something else today that I couldn't do yesterday. Like, I'd be excited for that. Like, you know, like, what's going on? What y'all want to do? Like, I ain't the type. I hear people say, say less, then we ain't going to get nothing to accomplish. No, tell me some more. Tell me more, goddamn. If we say less, we ain't going to get a damn thing to accomplish. If I'm in the room and ideas ain't been tossed around, I'm going to get up and walk out. Like, I don't want to be in the room where there ain't no conversation being had. I'm leaving. Like, what's the use of sitting here? The time, you can't get back. I can't get this freaking time back. So I just sat here with you for 10 minutes and I ain't learned shit. Ain't do shit. Ain't game shit. Bye, motherfucker. Like, hey, man, look, but you going to come over here tomorrow? Nah, I ain't never coming back over here. Like, I said, ever. Like, it's no reason for me to ever walk in this place again. Never. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can dig. I was just the end of this last question right here, man. I've seen a couple of different interviews. Well, I couldn't tell if it was real or not. Well, people were trying to, you know what I'm saying? Approach you and you stay under control and you were so respectful. Yeah. You got to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, bro, this is not like that. This is not. People don't know you. They were just real. Those were real moments. Yeah, people don't know you. They don't know you. When I come in sometimes or whatever, because before I started doing these interviews the last couple of years, you had your own assumption of me. Like, you knew what you felt like Fabo was or whatever. And then, you know, you see my son graduating on, you know, my page. You see my other son graduating. You see all of this different stuff going on. Like, well, maybe it's not what I thought it was. And then you meet me personally and it's like, okay, well, it's definitely not what I thought it was. And I like that. I don't want to change your opinion. I figured people should just listen to the music because once you find out everything about me you might not like the music no more. If it was, I didn't do interviews. I felt like, you know, the music sells so good when you don't know that I'm wild as hell. Like, you know, that's how I used to feel. But nowadays or whatever, you know, with a little growth and everything or whatever, it's awesome. I like to tell people. You a gentleman. Yeah, I like to tell people, you know. My story. Excuse me, sir. Yeah. Look, the way you, you, you, you like this and just polite pimping. Yeah. Hey, you tripping right now. I mean, this is how you approach me. No, no, no, I just, I just feel like, you know, until you get to shake somebody's hand it's hard to judge them, you know what I mean? So a lot of these cats, young, they already have the interview already together when you come in there and they go to try and still ask you the questions. It's like, you know, I'm like, no, it ain't, it ain't like that or whatever. You know, I ain't going to be pulling into that. And it's, it's, it's, it's okay. You know, it's okay. I mean, I'm used to having normal conversations. So, but a lot of these dudes, fake, man, like they just flat out fake. They doing it for the interview. They don't be real fans. Like, man, I've been a fan of yours. All of them. Then you get in there and be like, man, I thought you was four feet three. You know, don't you got a sister named Cheryl? I'll be like, no, like, you know, it's just, no. It ain't that type of party. 100%. Yeah. I'm from Bankhead Coat, man. I'm, I'm from down that street. I'm not only one from that spot or whatever, you know, and it's, it's, it's been a great experience or whatever. But I came up in that same shit that the next nigga, but a lot of people, I tell people all the time, just cut you from the hood. Don't mean you rock, rock. It don't like it. Like my little cousin, he, he don't play basketball. He, you know, academic, but he still ain't rock, rock. Like, but he be like, they hang with him. Like he always, he got that shit on. Like you feel what I'm saying? But I don't never see him with no gun on the hip or whatever. Everybody from the hood ain't, ain't with the rock, rock. You got some niggas from the hood that got gang, but they ain't with the, you know, they probably had you knocked out too, but it'll take a lot for that. Like you see what I'm saying? It's just like every girl from the hood don't sell lashes and do hell. You know what I mean? You, what you may think is that's not the case or whatever, you know, you're going to run into some real intelligent brothers that hustle like me. If you came to my spot in Bankhead, anybody who know me, I always had TVs, radios, car stereos, like microwaves, like I always got something for sale in my house. Like I'm a hustler. Like I always had, I'm just, if you know me, if you was in locked up with me, anybody who did time with me like a couple of years on couple of stretch, when you, I got the stove, I got the, I'm saying nobody selling no cigarettes in here without coming through me. Ain't nobody sitting in the weed in here without, everything got come through me. I'm on the hallway. I used to work in the kitchen. I swept the hallway before, like, you know, I had them jobs that was vital to communication. You understand what I'm saying? So it's like everybody from the hood ain't what you think they is. But some of us just blessed and we different, you know? So don't think everybody carry pills through. Everybody do this. Are we soft because we, you know, not displaying those attributes or whatever, you know? It's just, we different, you know? Niggas from the hood, just different. We learn how to cope. We learn how to survive. I think that's just it. You know, you see me do the leg thing. I ain't know I can do that shit I said in the song, but I get on stage one night. The next check looked like 35,000. I did it again. Next check looked like 60,000. I'm a hustler. I see the checks bigger when I do the leg thing. Do you feel that way in the adverse, Steve? You ain't in over here. No, I'm just like, No, I'm just saying what you're saying. Fair enough, boss. What you're saying? Do you feel that way in the adverse? Like everybody from the hood ain't raw raw. Do you feel like everybody from Beverly Hills is passive? I ain't never felt like everybody is passive. I, you watch the news every day. People knock people off. You see them in there, brothers, kids, their parents, like your people snap like all the time. I'm just saying like, I feel like it ain't about where you from. It's where you at at the time and what you learned on the way. Before you got here. You understand what I'm saying? If you still ain't learned a damn thing, you finna get slapped the fuck out. Like nigga, you came in here with that raw raw shit and you really ain't on it cause some niggas from the hood will try to gas you like, nigga, I'm from such and such, such and such, such and such. And then you get up and y'all put them things on and he out of, man, man, you know, you get that type of stuff too. But you might run into a cat from Buckhead that grew up in Buckhead. That's all that talk just like me. Got that same stamp, that same demeanor like me. And you know, they ready. Like, I'm gonna pop everything in here, bro. Like don't play with me like that, but he from Buckhead. So, you know, don't, don't judge a book by a cover. I mean, that's the oldest thing in the book, but you know, also don't judge by what you read in it. You understand what I'm saying? You can look at the cover sometimes and open it up and it'll still fool you. You feel what I'm saying? That's how niggas from the hood is, it's layers to some of these dudes. Like, you know, you guys like onion. You gotta keep pilling out the layers. And then you get to the root of it. And he's just same as all the rest of these niggas. You know, it's just that you get a better opportunity. I guess it's like this. If you're from where I'm from, it's what you do with your opportunity because everybody don't make it out. So if you're gonna take your opportunity and squander it, doing something you shouldn't have no business doing, then that's you. But when I get an opportunity, like he said, I'm gonna be a gentleman. I could take a lot. Somebody was the other night screaming at me, somebody gonna kill me, all kind of stuff. I'm in my hood, just, but he wasn't that type of person. But it just, he was on that night. And you got a lot of people standing around waiting on me to react. But I got two security guards with me cause we was out there for something. And I got this going on and I got, cause a lot of people think it's just me when you see me. But I got all this team around me too. But he yelled at me for probably about 40 minutes and all I told him was, I love you. That's all I can tell him. What I'm supposed to do, jump up and be the same way he, I got everything to lose. This guy ain't got nothing to lose. Like, he gonna make, I'm gonna make the news. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I could politely just got in my car and pulled off when I was finished with what I was doing. I see people, I've been back to the same spot. He ain't there, like, you know, but I see people, they be like, man, you know what, man, I thought you were finna go off and I'm glad you didn't, you know? Why? There ain't no reason to go off. He just venting what he felt like he's needed to say to me. He didn't have me to do with you. Yeah, he needed to say that to me, evidently, like, but maybe I needed to hear it. You feel what I'm saying? But you can yell all you want. Long as you don't violate my space, it's a whole different program. You know, I can't do anything for somebody to yell at. Well, I'm gonna get straight in the heart out on them. You feel like that. You're gonna swing on everybody that's yelling, I'm sending this at you. I don't think that's the case. I just feel like it ain't where you from. Like I said, it's where you at at the moment. And if you're giving an opportunity, it's what you do with the opportunity. If he waste his opportunity, that's on him. If I'm not gonna waste my opportunity. Every day is a new vision. It's a new idea. It's a new experience. You know, I'm going at it. It's hard every day. So I'm not gonna let them mess it up. No kind of way. So yeah, every nigga from the hood ain't what you think. There it is right there, man. Yo, I know you got some more famous shit to do, man. And whatnot. And this thing, we finna get back to it like real big in a minute. And what now, man? Yo, Favo, is there anything you want to say to the New Jack thriller city man before we get out here today? Man, we geeked up for real. Well, there it is. Well, like I always say, you just can't say you're real at something you gotta be man. We about to take some pictures and shit. Yeah, come on now. Favo, ATL legend, Atlanta man. Let's go. Atlanta man. Hey. Oh man, coming. Oh man. Jack thriller. Jack thriller. Hey, man. Hey, Favo.