 Since so much emphasis is placed on doing cybersecurity at the bigger companies or working with the higher, higher cost, robust consultants that are just, I thought to be focused on maximizing revenue and in many cases not doing what's best for the company that they're working with, the client. I think that's so, so perceptive, so incredible because I know as a small business owner and also from my time working in the government and also working with clients, there is this preoccupation with revenue, with profit, with procedures and operations and the things that generate revenue and sometimes things like cybersecurity get pushed to the side and that's exactly why I wanted to have you on today because while all of those other things are important, I think cybersecurity is something that needs to be in every founder and CEO and small business owners cross-check at their level.