 Hey everybody what's going on? I am Greg Sussman joined once again by Jim Sonnis of Fandle. What's happening Jim? It's all good Greg. I had a lot of fun with the NFL draft this weekend a lot of interesting landing spots to discuss so The draft hyped a lot, but lived up to it. So I was pretty satisfied. How are you doing? I'm doing great man It was really fun to just sit back watch some football stuff for you know a little while anyway And kind of take our minds off of things which is great and now our minds are still on the NFL where they should be Let's go over some of the winners and losers from draft weekend Because now all seven rounds are in the books and we have a good idea of who's come out on top So let's begin with the winners today Jim and we begin in Denver where just about a year ago This team looked boring it looked gross It looked like a team that was going to be in the doldrums of the AFC West for a while It's amazing what a year will do when Cortland Sutton steps up and when you draft players like Drew Locke and Jerry Judy Things are looking a whole lot better in Denver. Yeah, there is nothing boring about Drew Locke in general He's kind of a weird dude But in a fun way because he can be a little bit erratic, but that's not always a bad thing It can be fun to watch and now what we have here at Drew Locke is a really good situation You look back at last year his number three You know past catcher on that offense when Locke took over was Tim Patrick a guy who was undrafted and now instead of that He is throwing the Cortland Sutton Noah Fant Jerry Judy and KJ Hamar and what Judy and Hamar provide is a lot of speed in that Offense Noah Fant has that as well But this is gonna be a fast team you you can throw out Alberto in there as well Later round pick reuniting with Drew Locke as they were teammates at Mizzou This is gonna be a pretty fun and pretty fast offense What that does is it dramatically shifts the expectations for Drew Locke whereas before you could have had some reservations because He's a second round pick and second round picks don't normally pan out as quarterbacks in the NFL He also in that limited sample as they started last year based a lot of really bad defenses So the numbers behind what drew lock did a little bit tainted by the teams that he faced But now he's got three legitimately good receivers a great tight end And they also added some depth along the offensive line on day two and day three of the draft So I think if we're talking about situation for drew lock Whereas it wasn't that good at the end of last year. It now looks really good heading into 2020 It's situation matters so much for quarterbacks. I've seen this before with guys like Jared golf in the past What a situation can do for a quarterbacks outlook. We could solve questions about drew locks talent But what we can't question is the fact that his odds of succeeding just increased this weekend with the additions they made to this offense So I think we can still you know have some some minor trepidations about drew lock because again second round picks don't pan out all that often But he has the tools he needs to succeed and if he was capable of succeeding We're gonna see that this year So drew lock is someone I think we can invest in and best ball leaks because there's no legitimate backup behind him And I think for dynasty as well the odds he pans out just went up that makes him a big winner from this draft weekend drew locks a huge winner from draft weekend But I want to throw this back at you given what they did in the draft with Jerry Judy with some of these other water receivers here Is Courtney Sutton a loser? I wouldn't say a loser because I think with KJ. Hamler It's not a guy you'd expect to get a ton of usage Jerry Judy will but we've seen a lot of offenses that can support Multiple fantasy relevant pieces as long as the quarterback plays efficient enough And I think that's the question here with drew lock But I think the thing with Cortland Sutton is he has their rapport with drew lock already and they will have you know This weird offseason where they're not gonna have a lot of time to develop guys like Judy and Hamler That should give him a leg up But also Cortland Sutton is pretty freaking good when you're that good. It's hard to take away usage So I wouldn't say that Cortland Sutton is necessarily a winner in the situation But I also wouldn't downgrade him all that much despite the fact that there are viable alternatives in this offense now Whereas there may not have been previously just remember before Pat Shermer was the Giants head coach He was the offensive coordinator for Minnesota Vikings They certainly had a couple of wide receivers and Stefan digs and Adam feelin that worked out well with a quarterback like case Keenham Well, hopefully drew locks better than case Keenham And we'll see if Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton can become the next Adam feelin and Stefan digs Things look it up for drew lock and the Denver bragos The Indianapolis Colts will they made a whole lot happen over at the draft weekend We'll begin with what they did at running back with Jonathan Taylor who steps in alongside Marlon Mack in that backfield People are saying hey Jonathan Taylor. He may be the starter from day one. You think he's a big winner after round two Yeah, I think when you look at Jonathan Taylor, there were a couple of questions You hypothetically could have had around him cutting coming out of Wisconsin. One of them was that? Hey, you know he's at Wisconsin there It's traditional powerhouse with this tremendous offensive line a very creative run blocking scheme That could lead to potential busts in the NFL You could question the past catching and if it was legitimate over or if it was just forced to him and Questions about the fumbles one of those questions just went away because he goes to from one of the best offensive lines in the college To arguably the best offensive line in the entire NFL with the Indianapolis Colts So he's still gonna be running behind a great offensive line. That is no longer a concern with Jonathan Taylor I also think that the past catching could stick around here because Frank Reich is a really smart offensive coach And you know how to get his playmakers the ball in good situation I think that bodes well for Taylor still getting passing down work in the NFL Phillip Rivers has always been a guy who's been very willing to throw those running backs partly because Anthony Lynn wanted him to do So but I also think Rivers at his advanced age could be someone more willing to give those touches to Jonathan Taylor So I don't really see any reason to be super worried about Jonathan Taylor now Whereas I had some some concerns with him initially coming out this landing spot is tremendous The rushing efficiency is going to be outstanding for a guy this fast behind this offensive line There's always a possibility He becomes a legitimate threat in the passing game as well So I think this kind of wound up being the best case scenario for Jonathan Taylor outside of being the Clyde Edwards He layer pick at 30 second overall to the chiefs. This is kind of the number two best situation He could have had I think that when you trade up and invest as much in Jonathan Taylor as the Colts did in this draft It says that they want to give him the ball early and often that to me says he's moved up on our boards Relative to where he was coming in Jonathan Taylor in prime position coming out of the draft to be a major Fantasy factor here in his rookie year, but just like I did about Court and Sutton I have to ask you about Marlon Mack the good year last year made fantasy owners a lot of money Worry about him next year big dad Yeah, absolutely because again like you don't trade up for Jonathan Taylor in the second round if you feel really good about Marlon Mack Marlon Mack is that injuries his snap rate was pretty funky after he came back from those injuries too So I think that you know, I have Marlon Mack in dynasty I probably should have been more heads up to the fact that they could have been adding to the running back room So may a copa on that one and I think that it's pretty much shot for Marlon Mack Because Jonathan Taylor is really good. And if he gets that job, I don't see him giving it up This is gonna be a tough year for all rookies which may hurt a player like Jonathan Taylor But he's certainly NFL ready running behind an awesome offensive line at Wisconsin a RBU of sorts Jonathan Taylor ready for day one. We hope One more running back We want to get to and that's in Tampa Bay where we've talked about free rojo for a really really long time I think we may have reached the end. Thanks to key Sean Vaughn Yeah, Bruce Arians was not one of the guys in the free rojo trade He did pretty much everything he could to keep that in a cage And now I think that that's that ship is sail because key Sean Vaughn kind of got the best case scenario And the big thing that I think helps vault key Sean Vaughn's values at Bruce Arians Has talked a lot about trying to find a guy who can be on the field for all three downs where you don't need to Telegraph what you're going to do We don't want it sounds like he doesn't want like a Sony Michelle James white scenario where you know what the team is doing Based on the person now it sounds like he wants someone who can work either as a rusher or a pass catcher and key Sean Vaughn showed in college He is capable of doing both those things he had 20 receptions for 270 yards this past year He also had a 74th percentile speed score at the combine according to player profile or now He's the plan an offense. It's gonna score points There are not a lot of holes in this Tampa Bay offense after the added Tristan worse at right tackle I think that this is all really good for key Sean Vaughn We can expect him to be at least at a bare minimum the passing down back in this offense But I also think there is the potential for him to be a borderline workhorse Given what Bruce Arians has said about how he wants to use his winning backs If you get a workhorse in an offense that has guys like Mike Evans Chris Godwin and sound Brady It's probably gonna lead to a lot of touchdown potential So I think the key shot Vaughn although there is still the risk of Ronald Jones lingering there and taking away some touches I think that it's gonna be key shot Vaughn who gets the money the money touches specifically in the passing game That's what we want here. So key shot Vaughn I think the landing spot is perfect We should react by a viewing him a lot better than we would normally view a running back who goes in the third round Bruce Arians is old school man. Like he wants his quarterback his wide receivers his tight end and his right back They didn't want anybody to come off the field He's not all about these rotations and a goal line back and a third down back He doesn't care many that crap. He wants his guy on there a hundred percent of the time. That's not rojo It's not Pete and Barbara. It's gonna be key shot Vaughn in a great spot And maybe you know, if not the first pick because what can the city did but the second pick in a rookie draft this season I Said there's one more running back But now there's really one more running back because that's good for the camp acres with the Los Angeles Rams We did a video a week or two ago about Malcolm Brown and how you and I were just Inferced that this guy was going in the late 100s or like the 160s or something like that And how he's going to be starting running back from the Rams and people are idiots You know who the idiots are Jim that would be you and I because Malcolm Brown's not going to start for this team To any camp acres. Yeah, it's like the opening scene of the hangover where we're on the phone and we say we messed up We should not have said to invest in Malcolm Brown because the line of thinking here was that the Rams didn't have a lot of picks And it was hard to see them investing one of those picks on a running back But now with the information we have we extra react to that and they use their first pick in the 2020 draft on a running back And I think this is kind of a sneaky good landing spot for camp acres So while I was into Darrell Henderson and Malcolm Brown before I'm very okay changing my tune and buying into camp acres now because this Rams offense improved as the season went along last year specifically from week 11 on they changed up their scheme They kind of changed the the way they're running the football and they changed their personnel Along the offense line and from week 11 on they had a 45.4 percent rushing success rate out of the running backs That was up about two percentage points from previously and a good chunk above the NFL average and Todd Gurley Actually, I think was a top three guy and success rate for the full season Despite the fact that he didn't look all that good when running the football Sean McVeigh is still a good offense in mind and knows how to scheme a good ground attack So camp acres if he can get that top job Should be put in a pretty good position to succeed I don't think getting that top job will be all that difficult because again the Rams spent their first pick In this 2020 draft on a running back for a reason that means that they are not like us They didn't have a ton of faith and Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson. I think they're gonna give this job to camp acres I think this offense is in line to rebound next year Not only did they get better as a year went along But they also get guys like Brian L Brian Allen back healthy once again So there's gonna be a lot of competition on the interior all that offensive line So if one guy is not good, they can always try someone else out That's not a bad thing to have a lot of competing pieces up front So I think the outlook here is pretty good for camp acres and potentially for the Rams in general Given the fact they do have they did make those scheme changes last year and do have some interesting weapons on offense now Once again as well. So camp acres I think he has a good shot to nail down that early down and potentially workhorse role for the Rams And if he does I think it could be arrows up for sure because his team a little bit underrated as we progress through the The only thing that I disagreed with there is that the Rams are a sneaky good landing spot for camp acres I don't think it's sneaky champ. I think it's a clear great landing spot for camp acres who With the Rams investing an early round pick not just an early round pick their first pick as you mentioned a couple of times there In a running back, they're going to hand him the rock And I think it doesn't say say anything good for Darrell Henderson who was inactive a few times last year It's anything good about Malcolm Brown This offense produced Todd Gurley and I'm not saying that they made Todd Gurley But Sean McVeigh didn't just lose his brilliance after one Super Bowl Appearance Sean McVeigh is someone that wants to run the football when they changed changed our offense to focus on the tight ends And ran it a little bit after week 11. It was the running game that really Was the main benefactor here and really really like camp acres a lot going into 2020 Let's go back to the Indianapolis Colts here And let's talk about the wide receiver that traded up for and that is Michael Pittman He was a player that many believed could have been a first round pick son of a former NFL player Pippin has the ability to step in and be a major weapon to fill up rivers right away within the Indianapolis You saw other than T. Y. Hilton when he was injured last year. They didn't have much of anything You know Devon functions. He was kind of a disaster Ryan Grant also a bit of a disaster Chester Rogers I mean this team didn't have enough talent catching the football you had a player like Michael Pittman Well, that changes very very quickly Yeah, Michael Pittman checks a couple of the boxes again that we talked about before where he was the first pick that a team made in This draft as he was taken 34th overall by the Colts and he also goes into a situation where he should be able to get usage Right away like you said, there's not a whole lot behind T. Y. Hilton on this depth It's guys like Paris Campbell who missed a lot of the time last year due to injury and sack Pascal who was fine But he's not necessarily someone you want to build around not a lot of draft stock put into Zach Pascal I think we could see a situation where Michael Pittman, Jr. Is starting pretty much right away He had a 93rd percentile speed score according to player profile and a really big body Which makes me a good compliment to T. Y. Hilton, which is what she would I would assume want if you're Frank Right get guys who compliment your number one wide receiver and Michael Pittman does that pretty well Phillip Rivers Gets a bad rap because he throws a lot of picks and he's not quite James Winston But you know, he was a guy who did take chances last year which led to those picks But it also can lead to upside for wide receivers He had a really high deep rate and above average deep rate last year with the Charter So although rivers may not be as efficient as he once was he's not a guy who was afraid to go deep He does check it off to running backs, but he also throws it down the field It's kind of a weird paradigm to have in this but it certainly is something that you look at the data it says at Rivers does both those things and Pitman goes to a team with a great offensive line We talk a lot about that when it comes to running backs What that does is it increases the odds a team gets the red zone and can produce touchdowns Where would you expect Michael Pittman to win in the red zone producing those touchdowns? So it's an early opportunity. It's a good team with a solid quarterback and they invested a high-end pick in him I think that Pittman has a chance to make a difference right away And he's someone who has both short and long-term appeal for dynasty leagues at least in the near term I think what's really great about Michael Pittman is that the quarterback is Philip Rivers who doesn't have any Allegiances to any players even the Marginal players like exact Pascal who was solid last year, but there's no allegiance there by Philip Rivers Yes, TY Hilton is very very talented, but everybody else. It's kind of up for grabs I think Michael Pittman has a chance to make his mark right away Sing with Jonathan Taylor as we spoke about a little bit earlier His colts are going to have a brand new look and a positive one. I think they're a fantasy from all perspective One more player to get to Jim and it's for your new York Jets The Jets and Joe Douglas worked the board up and down over the weekend and eventually it seems like in the second round They got the guy they always wanted which was Denzel Mims out of Baylor How good can he be as he seemingly immediately becomes the number one wide receiver and the number one target for sam darnold Yeah, we had talked about this Jets team previously going into the draft about how their number one need from a need perspective Was offensive one because the depth chart there was so terrible But the only reason that was even a discussion Was because of how bad their depth chart was at wide receiver james and crouter is fine But after that it's brashad pyramid who was on a one-year deal We're just six million dollars not a ton of investment there and quincy annoula who has had a lot of neck issues May not even be able to play In 2020 what that means that denzel mims is going to step in right away and like michael pitton and jr Have the chance to start from day one with this offense And I think he can climb over those guys like paramin and quincy annoula in a hurry not james and crouter I think that he'll still be a big fixture in this offense But he's a speedy guy who can get downfield and I think that's that's really intriguing We also have a good thing here at the Jets that we alluded to at the Colts where the offensive line It's not a plus for the Jets, but it's a whole lot better now than it was at the end of the last year It's not just mackay beckton. It's connor mcgovern greg van roten They made a lot of changes along this line, which means we can expect the team overall to be more efficient That generates more touchdown chances and leads to additional upside for players within this offense Sam darnold should have more time to throw he can be more efficient He can get generate more touchdown drives and that's all good for guys like denzel mims He got a good landing spot. He had good athleticism good production at baler. He checks a lot of boxes I think can contribute right away. So It's a bit concerning that mims did fall to 59th overall and the Jets traded down rather than drafting him at At 48 those are slight concerns, but mims still has a lot to offer So I think if you're looking at day one contributors Mims landing spot was tremendous and if he has a talent which he seemed to have at baler It could lead to long-term success as well The success was clear at baler for denzel mims and you mentioned brishard paramin here with the new year jets Imagine jameson crowder denzel mims does something that well those guys they don't really do he is a athletic freak And we'll see how that translates with sam darnold giving him a big target That he's so desperately needed as he makes progress in his development under coach adam gaze That's gonna be for us here on the fan to hurry up jim. We talked about a lot of winners today Unfortunately, it's losers tomorrow. Yeah, can't be too optimistic for too long Greg got a ring on the parade at some points We'll talk about players with their stock trending down after the after the draft tomorrow and round things out here But I think overall is a pretty optimistic weekend for the draft and a lot of rookies winding up in a really good landing spots I'm just excited to talk more about iran rogers and jordan love for jim sannis. I am derek salser Thanks so much for joining us. We hope you enjoyed and come back tomorrow as we talk about the players who stock are down After the nfl draft. Have a great night. Stay safe everybody