 We'd like to call to order the design review meeting with Michael Birch coming forward sauntering at Good stead with strength and competence and he'll take the meeting over Yes, I should have had tear away sweats or something Patty roll call Let the record reflect that all board members are present except for a board member Zuko and at this point This is where we look to the approval of the minutes item 2. We have the November 15th draft minutes in the December 6th draft minutes Any comments that have not been brought to Patty's attention chair birch? I have a question for staff on this So typically with the is this a formatting thing with your new system the way that the The conditions are listed. It's kind of strange. It's like it's a it's got like November 15th See how it's like it's supposed to be kind of yeah, it's so it's just basically what it's doing is in our minutes. It's showing the Conditions of approval kind of just all in line with What appears to be html formatting tags for where it should be creating kind of like page breaks or indentations or whatnot So that's that's all it is. It's just a clerical issue and I was curious what was causing it right it looks like a little bit of a Computer-speak hieroglyphs. Yeah Okay, we can take a look at that petty. Thank you, but I don't see any other comments on the minutes Move on to item 3 board business That's where I read the statement of purpose for the design review board the review authority shall consider the location Design site plan configuration in the overall effect of the proposed project upon surrounding properties and the city in general Review shall be conducted by comparing the proposed project to the general plan any applicable specific plan applicable zoning code standards and requirements Consistency of the project within the city's design guidelines architectural criteria for special areas and other applicable city requirements such as city policy statements and development plans So that is the purview of this board at this time item for public comment on items not on today's agenda See none. We'll close that part of the public hearing and move on to item 5 statements of abstention any abstentions from tonight's items Moving on to item 6.1 Patrick, do we need to do something with 6.1? It's it's off the agenda tonight But do we need to move it to another date certain? I know that sometimes there's It was moved to a date certain at the last hearing and I want to be careful Why don't I change the order maybe we can ask bill when he gets here we could I believe that moving forward It would just be renoticed for whenever it is whenever it goes forward again But it had to be on the agenda because it was announced for this meeting Okay, should do we don't need to make a motion to move it to a date uncertain or it's a date certain now Patty Do you so is that an action by the board or do we just leave it alone? Okay, great Perfect. We don't want to we don't want to make them reset the shot clock again That's our second basketball and analogy of the date, right? But So we'll move on to item this item 6.1 will be continued item 6.2 Modification to final design review for the Inn at Santa Rosa at 111 commercial court file number dr 16-053 and Patrick will look to you for a staff presentation Thank You chair birch members of the design review board the item before you is a proposed amendment to final design review Which was approved by this board? The project is a 100 room hotel in southeast Santa Rosa at 111 commercial court. It's a 55 foot tall building It would include typical hotel amenities including an outdoor pool and patio Courtyard balconies support to share as well as a terrace on the fourth floor All the modifications that are proposed are to the materials on the exterior of the building So there's no changes proposed to the architecture or to the the site layout of the project or the footprint So the project is located at 111 commercial court Which is just off of Santa Rosa Avenue in the southeast portion of the town The project parcel it was previously vacant. It is now under construction So if you've driven on highway 101, you'll see the framing going up for the hotel Which is is presently under construction And so the need to come back in front of this board to talk about any changes to materials that would be proposed So the changes that are shown in the slideshow that were also in your packet are slightly different from what's in front of you There's some new renderings which just arrived today. There are three sets. So staff would ask that the the board try to share if possible and the changes are Like like was previously mentioned only to the materials and to the colors So there's no changes proposed to the architecture of the building The the changes are proposed for all four sides and because the The changes are Aesthetic in nature and it is going in front of this board again for consideration It's the recommendation of planning and economic development that the design reboard By resolution approve a modification to final design review for the in et cetera as a hotel project And the applicant team is also present and able to answer any questions Thank you. We'll start with questions from the board to staff any From this end no drew Warren All right Look to the applicant to make a quick presentation or is actually as much of a presentation as you'd like to make It can be That's right Give us your name and relationship to the project as you start and you just sit with patrick and Good evening. My name is andrew firestone. I'm the owner and representative for the in et Santa Rosa Um And I apologize what we had given patrick was updated and we asked the design team to actually more accurately represent What the materials are going to be which is in that packet there? the printer Messed up and only got three copies. So I apologize. We got it right here locally So it was a bit of a mad dash, but we wanted to give the most accurate representation there There's a narrative that was written by By the design group Also, they provided the materials that will be used and the colors That will be used Only one change one of the marbles up there. It's going to have a ribbed texture to it Which they couldn't get it in time for this meeting, but That was the uh that those are the materials that will be used I when I talk to patrick about Having this meeting a lot of times what what happens in these meetings is there's a value engineering going on Um, this actually is probably a little bit different. We actually are Um, we took a closer look at the exterior of the building We spent a lot of time and money and design work on the interior And we wanted to make sure the exterior matched it and so it's kind of been an evolving process and with I'm sure you're all aware of the price of construction these days You know the the project got more expensive and we wanted to make sure that reflected in some of the design Pieces on the exterior as well And that is why we have limited some of the stucco and gone with some more I think high-grade materials for the exterior I won't pretend to be able to speak Architect speak or design speak, but it's all out here laid out in the in the narrative in terms of why the designers picked the materials and the colors When it was presented it just looked really good to me. I just I think it's really attractive and And I think that those printed Um renderings I think speak to that So we're excited to be under construction Where we are let's see about two and a half floors into the four floors being framed so far It's a little muddy today. We were out there But just thrilled to have this project moving forward and um be happy to answer any questions more specifically if I can In terms of materials I do have scribble on the back of those materials to show exactly where they would go In terms of the layout of the building Great. Thank you. Um, we'll start with questions for the applicant From this end Eric sabre Scott true I just had one On the east elevation and what you just gave us versus Yeah, yeah, there are only three copies. Yeah versus, uh, I guess what was electronic So we have looks like there's some pilasters On the east elevation in the electronics the middle and I'm assuming they're gone just for clarification Pilasters pilaster here you come look at mine Make it easy So you see this those are pilasters And it looks like you guys have eliminated them in here. Is that correct? Yes, but those those are part of it The architecture set was approved. So that may not be reflected in the image of a good eye I didn't see that but it's if if there is an articulation on the building I would assume that that's not changing that wouldn't be changing. Okay, cool. Okay All right. Yeah, we'll look at the floor plans here. We'll see Leave it to the architects to find that stuff But again, none of the none of the articulation of the building the parapets everything's staying exactly the same It's just literally the the finished materials on the exterior that were that were Changes being proposed And you can see on that the ribbed marble is that what I was referring to which I don't have an example of Here, yeah So it does look like on the plan set that's included it does look like those pilasters or bump outs are present However They're not on this document. So on the floor plan we got Yeah, so and this was this was primarily to show the the changes in the in the material the exterior materials So I would assume I would assume that those Bump out wouldn't wouldn't change. I wouldn't know why they would Those are on the east elevation that you're seeing right true From the old renderings It actually is there's some appeal to it Sorry There's actually some appeal the pilasters aren't probably structural they're architectural But no if you look at the cleanness of your latest there's actually some appeal That they're not necessito. They may not be necessary. Yeah, and that's that's kind of I guess we're going into comments now Let me ask the question I don't mean to jump over you Warren I just want to try to understand from looking at the renderings I'm looking at the renderings that The perspective views and I think these are with the new materials I'm looking at sheet four in the package am I reading that the Pacifico Blanco that it appears to be So the primary material here is is more of a Are we talking about sort of a faux? Okay, so this is the tile and then we resolve at the east elevation into stucco that's Scored or are we still Pacifico Blanco here's stucco's gone stucco's gone all together So so the building wraps four sides in Pacifico Blanco On the in here so the insets here Okay, oh the gray mouse. That's right. Got it. You're in stucco. Yeah I think it's probably mega graze. I know that color Graze Is it graze? It's patch for gray. Yeah, that's everybody's favorite color right now. That's the color of the year Mega graze Yeah I guess it was just it was hard for me to read what was going on on the east elevation And if we were making a transition because on sheet four and I don't know if you guys have sheet four open down there Oh, we've got two down here here okay On sheet four You can see that as the at the on the end of the building on what would be the north end of that tower There appears to be sort of a graphic distinction between The material on the north end of the tower with the three stories of windows and turning the corner and I'm just I'm trying to see I think that that is that turns into stucco here back into that that stone In this piece here got it back into stucco once again into here back into the see the front of stucco great There's no stucco. Good. That's what I was I was trying to make sure that I understood the key and what surfaces had what and I could see graphically that There were changes, but I wanted to make sure I understood them Okay Great that answers. Yeah one of my questions. Um drew. Are you still Young questions Warren It's really stuck on us in the front it's the back I hope I hope you guys we we've struggled with you know We moved from building seven where we had our warm fuzzy meetings and they were fun and applicants like you guys have brought great stuff forward It works really well when we have applicants with more issues We do like to have them over there and treat them coldly so it's uh, I I appreciate the distinction But we miss you guys. We wish you were closer. This is very formal I sent a picture of this to my kids so they think that I'm working tonight, so that's great Um, I did have one more question I think we've got it figured out, but I want to make sure it's we're reading it correctly Um, so it appears that there are three paint colors Yes, but the three paint colors are actually two stucco colors and a trim color. Is that correct? Am I reading that correctly? So so the benjamin morr satchel is Is the parapet? Is that the metal parapet color? So Is that that's this right? Yeah, that's the kind of that your upper patient. That's the eyebrow and kind of the Color of the of this piece here. Okay, this is this this gray here It is the trellis for the balconies the cord of the sheer columns and the juliet balconies are this color Okay, the parapet ease Are that yeah, all right by this piece or this here. Uh-huh. This is the That's the stucco and then this black right here. Is that the same as the thunder gray or is that also the that's the slate Okay, so this is the slate down here bottom here Okay, that's the slate and the parapet. Okay, so your whole front is stucco free. It's it's stucco less devoted to stucco less Yeah, okay. Cool. I think that's our that was my quick. I just wanted to clarify where some of these materials are Okay, just to make it easy. Thanks Great, so if there aren't further questions for the applicant, let's start with um Potentially a motion here from the board. Uh, we've got we've got a motion. Uh, we have a Recommendation from I got you covered design review Um I move that we approve modification to final design review the in at santa rosa 111 commercial court File number dr 16-053 Wave reading of the text, uh, and I do have one condition that I would like to add to it as part of the motion And that condition is to remove the superfluous pilasters that were present in the previous Uh submittal package, uh, and actually go with the east elevation as reflected Like as reflected in the With those ribbed. Yeah, okay So that is my motion Is there a second Sabra with the second And discussion we'll start with you, eric No comments Sabra I just like to commend the applicant because I think the uh Revised drawings are a good deal more varied and interesting than the original drawing So uh from a an architectural standpoint, I see this as much more use of material In creative ways. Thank you Scott I would echo that comment. I think I I liked the other iteration And I like this one even better and I think it's more unique To its own project. So nice work True Yeah, I I wasn't on designer review board when you guys presented this originally So I just took a little bit of time the other day to look at them. I think actually this one's a little bit stronger Thank you for putting together a really good package and My only comment is I'm not a huge fan of fake wood But I understand the durability That you want in your wood materials and but still getting that warmth of wood. So that's my only real comment Yeah Warren Yes, I won. I wanted to commend you for um a really In my opinion a great example of what the future could be with both maintenance and aesthetics I'm never really a fan of cultured stone And it it fades over time even so this is to me. It's a real triumph of new materials. Um There's amazing things going on with durability now And aesthetics. So this ought to be maintenance free It's fresh and I hope the signage compliments the elegance And taste you've thus far achieved Yeah, all of the same comments. I appreciate that We don't always see people back here making their project better Massacistic sort of urge to make it Great. So it is and and you guys did that you guys actually I think this is a Step up in materials and I think it's going to be a little bit more It's going to be some long term The look is going to last I think some of the some of the older materials they look great today But I think that this is just a little more restrained and refined And it's great the one comment I have and I hate to stay on page Four of the document is my my only thought and we don't have a completely keyed set of drawings But there are two tower elements And at the north and the south And my comment about it appearing as though the return To the eastern facade of that stair tower appears to be stucco right now and I would love to see that Be done in in the pacifico blanco so that it looks like that whole tower On that end of the building is a tower And that it's a probably a 10 foot wide segment of And I just want to confirm that where the tower returns at the south end and it appears so from the materials That that end of the tower also returns so that just just as those things return around to the east They don't they don't just automatically turn to stucco that the towers both have You know at least they're three sides that are bolted on to the end So I don't know I'm I'm the first one to make that recommendation It haven't heard it from anybody else, but I I actually think you might be reading the set wrong because if you look on sheet one It's it's deceptive because there's shadow Um, but if you look on set one on the east elevation there, there is a color differential between you think it's you think it's right I think it's right. Yeah, I think it's I'm looking at it's a white. I'm looking at a rendering further up That just doesn't so it looks it looks as though it's keyed right. We probably don't need to don't need to make it part of the conditions So at this point, I I don't hear any other conditions arise out of the discussion Pilot well, he's made it part of the motion Yep So if we can call for a vote There's nothing to yeah Board members briere Yes Kincaid Aye Goldschlag Aye Weigal Aye Hedgepeth And birch Aye Great. Thank you guys. Thank you very much You as well Yes, uh just quickly in in these in these in these elevations. It does appear that this strip This is the strip that I was concerned about because where I read that on page four It it didn't key the same. Yeah, but it looks like it is keyed the same Most sense perfect It looks right It looks right so Thank you very much Moving on to item seven board member reports Any board member reports item eight bill do we want to talk quickly about Vacancies elections, etc, etc We can and I think it's mostly a reiteration of what I mentioned last time with some new Activity movement on the city council will have some opportunities for reappointments or new appointments Uh, if your term is up and you would like to remain on the board You would need to reapply so you can fill the paperwork out submit it to the city clerk And if you're not interested, uh, you can have discussions directly with your council member or if your term is up just not submit new information As it stands the policy is you stay until reappointed Or replaced so and I mentioned that at the last meeting so I have no information right now from any of the the new members or the mayor so That's the status quo. Great. Would this be an appropriate time for me to share what I know? Yes, okay my uh, the the new board member victoria flumming who was elected to Um district four where I believe four or five of us actually live Um She contacted me and made me aware that she has um an environmental scientist who is going to be her appointee So I think he should probably be very well suited to the board. Um There was discussion of Potentially how I might fit in but I've made a decision to step back so I don't have my name in the hat so the chairmanship will be available also and um, I think that the other members are soyer and Schwedhelm, right? So who does that? Schwedhelm and who's soyer is it kevin or is I think it's kevin. So I don't know what they're doing So the chairmanship is going to be open after victoria Fleming's new appointee takes takes on the role. I have encouraged victoria Not for my own not because i'm trying to run away But I've encouraged victoria to see how quickly she can appoint that member I think that having that member on the january 17th tour of the Downtown development zone would be an extraordinarily helpful place to start I think wasting that tour on me would be at this point would be But I think having somebody who is stepping in it would be a good start for them So we'll see what happens. We'll see if she does that I will be serving until i'm done and I don't know what interest there is in the chairman's position I will share with the group that it's not other than having to be slightly more alert During the meetings I do spend some time With bill and with some other staff During during the week Talking procedural items or maybe vetting thoughts about how we're going to handle something Or getting some insight from bill meeting about 15 minutes early It is not terribly onerous to be the chair on the board except for having to have that extra cup of coffee Every you know up first and third thursday before the meeting and bill will buy you the coffee if you need You get a complimentary cup of coffee. I will provide the coffee So you lost me at hanging out with bill occasionally, huh? Just one we'll cover that Is this thing there we go? The chairmanship is an appointment by the mayor But it does not have to be the mayor's appointee the mayor can pick any of the members to assume that role so right And with that if there's nothing else from the department report we're adjourned