 I think about Tupac era, we got to talk about that. When he basically come from prison, y'all, yep, Jimmy Irving gets him out, she'll get him out, who got him out? He was in prison. People were going to see him. That was how- Are you saying Jimmy Irving- No, I'm asking you, I'm asking you, I'm just telling you how my mind perceived it. You said no, how do you say no? No, no, no, how my mind perceives it from afar is like she'll got him out, to be honest with you. Ultimately, right now, me and you go out to lunch after this interview. And you buy me lunch, I buy you lunch or whatever, I buy you guys lunch. And I put it on the credit card. Whoever paid for it, that's the person- I'm on to the responsible board, right? That's right. That's right. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101, 101. Yeah, we gonna talk. So whenever he gave you the rights to all of that, did he give you instructions as into what he wants you to do with it? Which I might shoot. Yeah. When I was doing the buying outs from people? No, yeah, when he gave you the rights to all the music and all of the publishing and all of that, did he say he gave it to you and he'd be like, okay, this is what I want you to do? I don't know, who remember that? Conversation. I think of Ben & Baker, I don't remember that conversation if it did. You to my dad's. I'm talking about you. Yeah, because they're friends. They're friends. That's what she asked of. She's saying, okay, if he told you to be this, hit the face of it, but really it's mine. Until I do the XYZ, yeah. But then don't that mean he would have lost that in bankruptcy? Yeah. So why would I ever admit to that? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I think you can tell me what conversation me and him had, government, FBI, bankruptcy attorney, y'all were there? That nigga lying now. We know he's lying. He lying. Yeah. Reggie Wright, 23 answer. I want to know. See, I didn't think about it in that way, but it makes sense. When you think about it. But me and him, good. I always look out. Have you ever? Yeah, you don't do that. Because you don't get to see him first. I haven't seen him. I just got off probation very early first. Wow, man. You going to go see him? Very early first. But you can still call him, right? You can't contact him. I can't even talk to him. If I knew you had a felony conviction and I knew that, that's why I never did a background check or ask you. I technically ain't supposed to talk to you. That's crazy. Without notifying my probation officer that I am about to meet with Mrs. Jamaica and then she... You done did so much, man. And she done been in jail or in prison for... Oh, I don't know nobody back around. I don't know. Exactly. I know what you had to do. Part of it makes sense. Nine o'clock today was... Yeah. I ain't know how you looked, you know. On camera. I didn't know you was as beautiful as you are. That's the thing. Hey, let me ask you here. Karen, don't do justice to you, Mrs. Jamaica. Man, don't do justice to me. Watch out, Reggie. We're going to kick your ass. That's why I screwed it over. That's why I screwed it over. Oh, compliment. I respect marriage. I just love marriage. So, when I think about Tupac era, we got to talk about that. When he basically come from prison, y'all, Jimmy Irving gets him out. Shill get him out. Who got him out? He was in prison. People were going to see him. That was how you... Are you saying Jimmy Irving don't want him out? No, I'm asking you. I'm asking you. I'm just telling you how my mind perceived it. You said no. How do you say that? No, no, no. How my mind perceives it from afar is like, Shill got him out. To be honest with you. Ultimately, right now, me and you go out to lunch after this interview. And you buy me lunch, I buy you lunch or whatever. I buy you guys lunch. And I put it on the credit card. Whoever paid for it, that's the person. I'm hopefully responsible for it, right? That's right. That's right. Remember, you got default on it and don't pay it over, whatever. Reggie Wright is still responsible. However it comes, if they decide to sue me, if I have to make the payment. Whatever paperwork shows. Whatever happens. So my point to that is, however it was done, negotiated and shook, made it happen. He didn't want me to have it. He put up his name, his company. If I say it okay, which all his deals were, that's why I try to explain it to people. She didn't pay for shit. His deal was, we pay for it, you go make it happen. We split it 50-50 after it's done. Now, something's hit. Something's he lost up the button on. Rage, Michelet albums. I'm talking about albums and stuff like that. Probably some of the Tupac albums, who know? Because a lot of samples was in those songs and stuff like that. Y'all seen how many videos was done in that nine month period? Who knew that album all eyes over me was gonna sell eventually 10 or 11 million double CDs? That's the one thing I always wondered. I'm like, did Tupac still have music that has not been released up to today? Well, that's debatable. I think that most of it's on the internet. I know by the trash that I started putting out on the last two or three albums, I was picking through everything that I had. I was just putting out the best. When I got friends and who do you believe in and all that, that I put on the two songs that were placed on Chronic 2000 and Chronic 2000 and Two Gainesons for Radio, those were the two on each one. Those were the four songs that were left that hadn't been out that were the best. Em did an album one of them since there. I'm sure he got the best out of that. We did Better Days after that. I'm sure they, you know, so my point to all of that is, it ain't like people just holding to say, hey, the only album that here have been nominated for Grammy changes. That was lyrics from another song. And I do it from the South. I can't think of the name right now, something on the hook and Trackmaster said to be. And it was from Miss Apple. Wow. So he comes out of prison, comes to, yeah, for were you even around? I was there when Suga was going up there to meet with him. I had gotten in a car with him. Because it's funny, I interview another guy and he says that you guys took over the security and two months later, Tupac was dead. Let's think it's just talking. We were there 11 months, we took over the security. I took over the security during, the murder was a case album. Okay. I did all of that. I was early on. I was the one that was over the security setting up the New York cops and all that for us to go and do that screening of a woman and a woman and the murder was the case. So you was around? Video, I've been around since 94.