 Ladies and gentlemen, something a little bit different for you, we got a little taste, a little sampler, a little appetizer of Mama's Boys podcast, the new podcast I started with my man Omar Isoff. It is a non-fitness podcast. We want to talk to people that we enjoy talking to, influencers, coaches, Instagrammers, YouTubers, podcasters, celebrities, whatever it might be and let you hop in or be the fly on the wall or join in with the conversations that we like to talk about. Talk about things that maybe we don't do all the time. So for us it's non-fitness, maybe it's movies or music or sports for myself, for Omar, maybe it's video games, books, jazz, etc. So today's episode we have the one and only Mr. Joe DeFranco. This is a coach, a human that I've looked up to for a long time, not only for his knowledge and his experience within the industry but also as a businessman. He was one of the very first people I ever watched on YouTube. He's probably the number one guy that inspired me to get into coaching, strength and conditioning, coaching basketball players, rugby players, football players in the weight room. He's revolutionized how people do that, not only business-wise again but also in his methods and he's also had such a broad reach of the athletes he's worked with now, working with the WWE, Triple H, Brian Cushing, a bunch of very elite athletes. So if you're interested, give this little highlight reel a chance, check it out on iTunes, check it out on Spotify, Stitcher or MamasBoysPodcast.com. I think you guys will appreciate it. We're dropping episodes every, do you know what it is? New episodes are dropping every Tuesday and every Friday. So be sure to subscribe on iTunes, give us a rating and review. It's much appreciated and I will catch you guys in the next one. Something like that? Yeah. Yeah, WWE. That's what you do, yeah? Main gig now or what? One of the main, one of the main gigs, yeah. I only go, I train Paul, Triple H and Steph twice a week. I drive to their house but they travel a lot. So I do all their programming, go to their house twice a week and then they opened up that, they started the performance center which is basically like, I don't want to call it minor leagues because there's a lot of guys that have been wrestling for a long time but kind of their feeder system to the WWE. Basically like a college program to the NFL, whatever, it would be a good example of it. And when I first started training Triple H, he had the idea to open up this performance center that he wanted to be like this NFL type facility and basically breed all the wrestlers there so they didn't have to go looking for them all over the world. So then they hired me as a consultant to design the weight room aspect of that facility, hire a strength coach, and implement more athletic type training because they're all training just like body builders for the look, when they start having a lot of injuries. That's what, Orlando? Yeah, that's in Orlando. And then they have headquarters Connecticut or something? Yes, Samford. Mike Ackman, he doesn't notice like it's Connecticut, I think. I knew it was in that area. You got your resume, you want me to put it in there? There you go. Actually, hold on. I got some WWE connects. No, but what would be so everyone, like I was talking with Mark Bell and he was explaining everyone has a shtick and like wrestling. Yeah, look a certain way. And so he said kind of like, I forget what he called me like a Canadian, whatever, because I'm from Canada. I got the bandana, the long hair, whatever. So it's a look. It's that what would Mike's shtick be? Like what would he do? You know, everyone comes out like Hulk had that iconic, I'm so versatile. Oh, he's your man. Come on, ultimate warrior. All the classic wrestlers are iconic because they physically stand out. There's some sort of trend. They're personality. You're saying Mike doesn't physically stand out in any which way, so we have to figure out a really good gimmick for him. Personality has to take over, yeah. Look, I got Mike's skills. I don't know how it can handle in the ring, but I think I got Mike's skills. That's more important. It's way more important. Joe, you don't train like Roman Reigns or anything? No. We're about to talk shtick. So I was actually my videographer, really likes wrestling and I have a connection through Kofi Kingston. He's bought shirts and stuff. So we got tickets to see a wrestling show recently and he was giving me the rundown, but I think it was definitely Roman Reigns. We're just on the mic. He does a terrible job. He's jacked up. Which is like just hyping it up and like just talking and being charismatic. I was super surprised. There were people that were on like, I forget, Mike Owens, I think is the guy's name. Oh yeah, the little. Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens. Where is it? He was great on the mic. He doesn't look like he could do much. He's super athletic too, Kevin Owens, but he's great on the mic, which is more important, probably more important than your wrestling skills. Cause if you look at all the big name, they weren't great wrestlers. Paul Kogan, even the rock, I think, and I don't, I don't know technically, but, you know, macho macho man was considered a good wrestler, but like ultimate warrior guy, people who know wrestling would say technically, they weren't great wrestlers, but they're all, you know, they're legendary. Everybody knows them. That era was amazing with just Stone Cold and the Rock because they're so good on the mic. I think Stone Cold the same. Some people thought he was a pretty good wrestler, wrestler. But the point is like, if you can hype up a crowd or get people behind you, like who cares for the rest of the story? I think you got the high potential vote. You were talking before about maybe, uh, what, getting a mullet. We're doing that just for the podcast. Oh, for the podcast. Hey, you got me here. I rarely leave New Jersey. So you got me here. Some good job. Maybe you could be a manager instead of a wrestler. I'll be down because I'm getting old. I'm getting a little beat up. I don't want to get off the top ropes anymore. So maybe I'll just talk. We'll go for Roman Reigns. We can't talk. Yeah. What was the, what was the dude, uh, the undertaker? What was the guy that he had that always, you know, with the bags under his eyes? Paul Bearer. Yeah. You could be that. You could be a Paul Bearer. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I mean, he's gross, but I'll be the last to fall. Yeah. The more hands of. WWE's funny because all those guys are just meatheads, you know, like talking to a stone cold and those guys, like they just like to lift weights. Yeah. There's, they're like fans of like a lot of people in our industry, which is funny because they're mega stars, but they'll, they'll be fans of people in our industry. It's cool. There's a few that used to be actually like lifters. There's that power lifter, bronze stomen or Strowman. Yeah. Yeah. He was a strong man. Yeah. And so I met him, when I think he was at, is it, uh, what, of the training facility? That's what I briefly met him at the performance center. He's super cool. Yeah. Super. Very athletic too. Yeah. I think he was on the way to, uh, potentially go to world's strongest man and stuff. He just jacked up his shoulder. I saw him, what, I mean, I, what is he six, six, six, six, seven, like 350 pounds. I walked in there. He's doing like a 52 inch box jump. I remember walking by him and just looking at him and being like, how do you, how much do you weigh? Like 350, 360. And he's just doing like sets of five or whatever. 52 inch box jumps. That's a lot of those guys. A lot of the guys are good athletes. I mean, obviously the rock plays, uh, uh, out of Miami, which is top level D one. Uh, but even Stone Cold, I think maybe Texas tech or something. He played college football. He was like a one double A or D two Texas school. John Cena played at Springfield. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good Mike skills. He's a funny dude. He's a funny dude. He's got good Mike skills. But yeah, there are Paul triple H is like a huge fan of body building and fitness industry. Like he knows all the everyone in our industry. That's how he found me was just like Googling stuff and looking up. He would, he liked researching training himself. And that, that's how he came upon my stuff and I've been working together for eight years. Even one, like I remember reading yourself. I'm going to creep up on you hard here now, but on teenage, you know, you don't creep too much because I see you don't even follow me on Instagram. It's going to be fixed now. That's going to be fixed now. And here's what I'm a spiteful bastard. I'm an Italian guy from New Jersey. So driving in. Are you a front stabber or back stabber? I'll go both. I'll go. Or I'll go so hard through the front. It goes out your back. I was like, I was going to do Mike and Omar's podcast and I see Omar on Instagram and I go, fuck this guy. Talk about disrespect. I mean, it's messed up. I agree. He's Canadian. They're supposed to be nice. He tried to butter me up saying he liked my eyebrows. No, I said I meant my match because I, someone has even better eyebrows than myself. The gig is up. So I'm going to riff on that for a little second. Brad Schoenfeld, Dr. Brad Schoenfeld gave me a little shit too because I wasn't like following him on Instagram. We've been friends on Facebook. I've filmed video. I didn't even know like, so here, here is, let me hear the excuse. Here's the assumption is there's Insta thoughts on Instagram. So like girls opposed like IG modeling and all right. And then there's like YouTubers and social and then people that actually have careers. So like a Brad Schoenfeld. So he doesn't use it like as a promotional tool, right? It's just for himself. It's like, it's a professional thing. Like maybe he'll have like 30 photos. Like everyone that I assume that's established in the industry, like let's say like Joe, you've trained. I'm, I'm blanking on the dude's name. Houston Texans. Brian Cushing. Yeah. When the Lonnie said that always got me a hype way said I want to be the most dominant physical monster on the field. Like I remember like those videos and like some of those photos and stuff from the T nation days. Anyone that's like established, not that I assume they don't have an Instagram, but it's like, it's like whatever to you. That's somewhat acceptable. I'm old and I don't have Instagram. I didn't say old bro. So Brad said the same thing. I don't know how to turn on a computer. Brad said the same thing to me because like I met up with him and stuff. And then he asked me something about Instagram and I'm like, Oh, I didn't know you had an Instagram. He's like, why wouldn't I have an Instagram? And I was like, Oh, but I was online and stuff. So no disrespect. I, I, I'm, I'm buying it. I would be, I would be honored if you stabbed me in the front though. Speaking of literally Brad speaking of Dr. Brad Schoenfeld. I was, fuck up his name. You know who I'm talking about. I call him Jack Christopher Walkins. Yeah. Cause he kind of sounds like that. We have a ton of mutual friends. I've never met him personally. I, I don't know, maybe I'm, I guess I look up to him as well, because I didn't know he had an Instagram up until about a week ago. I just started following him about a week ago and I was like, but same thing. I figure he was, you know, he's doing his research and he's not going to be on Instagram. And I, yeah. I was like, wow, he's got an Instagram. Yeah. And he does post some good stuff. You're training. Yeah. You're training. I just followed him recently. You're training superstar, like WWE people like NFL. It's like, all right, like this is like, Instagram means like what to you? Like, I don't know. Like, are you on it? It is, it is kind of true. The, the, when I was training athletes full time, I did way less. I, I was one of the original kind of YouTube people, but it wasn't like vlogging and consistency. It was, Hey, I'm training an athlete. He's about to do something really