 By 24 News, I'm Sivan Ravi and these are the latest developments coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Today is Day 51 of Israel's war with Hamas. After hours of agonizing delay last night, Hamas finally released 13 Israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with Israel, including 8 children and 5 women. Additionally, 4 Thai nationals were released to Israel as well. Israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon. The hostages have spent 50 days in Hamas' captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in Israel's history, in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on October 7th. One of the conditions which was not met by Hamas was not separating children from their mothers. Among the released hostages overnight was Hila Rotem, who was indeed released without her mother, Raya. Other hostages released included Yahel and Naveh Shoham and their mother, Adi. Her father, Tal, was left behind in captivity. Noam and Al-Maor were released without their father, Dror. Maya Regev was released without her brother, Itai. Maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival and is currently treated in an Israeli hospital. Let's take a look at some of the images. Here is 8-year-old Emily Hand reuniting with her father in Israel. In a moment, we'll be seeing it on screen. And Hila Rotem Shoshani, who is 13 years old, with her uncle, after 50 days in captivity, we are unable to see the images at the moment, we'll be seeing them in a minute. Joining us now in Shiba Medical Center, where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our I-24 News senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Alterman. Owen, how many hostages were taken in at Shiba and what do we know about their condition? Sivan 12, eight children, four women, and their condition is good. That's according to a press conference given rear-arm standing just a short time ago by the director of the children's hospital, where we're standing. Obviously, he said it was a long night for all of the reasons that you alluded to. But all are in good condition, at least those who are here. And that's obviously welcome news for everyone here in Israel. They got through that long night, and of course, those long weeks of captivity. We know the 21-year-old Maya Regev was wounded, and we know she's in a moderate condition. What do we know about what happened to her? We're still, obviously, everyone's piecing that together. She's at Soroka Hospital, a different hospital, closer to the Gaza Strip, because she needed more immediate medical treatment. Obviously expected to make a recovery, but obviously going to be more difficult for her than it will be for these other hostages. But obviously welcome news that all are home and all are in at least reasonably good condition, and reunited with their families. Thank you very much, Owen, at Shiba Hospital. And joining us now in studio is Ariel Oceran, our I-24 News Middle East correspondent. Thanks for coming in. There was a lot of suspense last night, and this prolonged delay by Hamas to release the hostages. What do we know about what happened there? Well, details are still starting to emerge, but this is two days of hostage releases, and two days that didn't happen according to plan, because the first group of Israelis to be released was supposed to happen Thursday, but that was delayed to Friday, and yesterday almost didn't happen. And so we're seeing that really Hamas is using any method in its arsenal to really drag on this process to continue its psychological warfare on the Israeli public. Now the understanding is that yesterday one of the causes for delay was that Hamas claimed that it couldn't find some of the hostages, siblings, or parents that would prevent them from splitting families, because obviously, as you mentioned, according to the agreement, they have committed to not split families, but as we all saw over these past two days, this has happened. Like you mentioned, 21-year-old Maya Regev, she was released. Her 18-year-old brother Itai remains in captivity. Same thing with Hilarot and my mother Raya is still held by Gaza, and this is despite a commitment by Hamas not to do so. And I think these claims are going to be presented to the mediators, to Qatar, to the Egyptians, but at the end of the day, and this is the sad fact, Israel does not really have any way to make this, you know, avoid from happening. At the end of the day, Israel is dealing with a cruelty organization that really is using any method in its arsenal to continue to employ its psychological warfare on Israel. Thank you, Ariel. We'll be back for more questions with you in a moment. Joining us from the Tel Aviv Square for the Families of Hostages is our I-24 News correspondent Robert Swift. Robert, yesterday there was a huge gathering at the square. People were waiting for hours to see this release deal come through. What can you tell us about what happened there? That's right. I was here in attendance last night, and the reports that have come out since have said that there was up to 100,000 Israelis here in attendance. And something that was very noticeable was the fact that whilst we were fixated on our phones looking at what was happening with the hostages due to that delay, it was very noticeable that the crowd itself, including those who were speaking on the stage, they were not so much fixated on the individual release of the hostages last night, but rather all the hostages. They kept repeating the phrase until everybody is released. And there was the sense that the individual families that were involved in last night's hostage release, they were being given space, being given privacy. One of the speakers, the grandson of one of the hostages released on the first evening, he said that his grandmother had wished to be there, had wished to come and speak, that he had told her that the family had explained to her that it was too soon and that that space and privacy was necessary. And therefore the crowd and the speakers very much were fixed on the notion of releasing all of the hostages, including those who have been in Hamas captivity since 2014. Now as well as talking about the necessity of releasing the hostages, it's worth noting that there was a delegation of Israel's Druze community here, including the leader of the community who spoke to the crowd and the crowd applauded them on several occasions. It worth being noting that several members of Israel's Druze minority group have fallen in combat since the beginning of ground operations inside the Gaza Strip. Now we are seeing a lot of solidarity. What is the general mood like right now as more families have been notified about the supposed release of the third batch tonight? Yeah, so in these early hours after the release of the hostages, I think we'll see the same thing as what occurred after the first release. And that's the sharing of images, media from the release. Now it really is overnight and first thing in this morning, they're waking up and they're looking at the videos that have been shared of these family reunions where the hostages are being reunited with their parents. If their parents are indeed in Israel, it's worth noting that some of the released hostages still have parents in Gaza who don't have their mother or father and so are being met by other family members. The impression given yesterday was that very much Israelis are sharing these images, fixating on these images through social media, through the traditional news. And then last night, the impression given was very much that Israelis wanted to then come together physically to express solidarity, collective sorrow and longing for the release of the hostages still held inside the Gaza Strip. Thank you very much, Robert, in Tel Aviv. Joining us now is Professor Kobe Michail, Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies and former Deputy Director General at the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. We've seen the Hamas delay in releasing the hostages last night. There was a lot of drama there. A lot of psychological warfare here, keeping Israel on its toes at every second. Should we be expecting additional surprises to come from Hamas? Yes, and if we will continue behaving in the way that we behave, it will be even worse. I think that we have to learn from the Egyptians that immediately came to Rafah crossing. And after some juicy curses towards Hamas, they just told them that they have immediately to go back to the deal. Otherwise they are going to shut down Rafah crossing and they are going to starve all the population of the Gaza Strip. This is the language that Hamas understands. And if we will continue to be polite and we will think that we are dealing with a human rights organization from Europe, they will continue terrorizing us psychologically. I mean, there is no doubt about it. I want to point out, to take a look at some images that Hamas released. We're seeing it on screen as right now. We see them releasing some of the hostages, the children, and the mothers. This video was released by Hamas itself. Yes, this is the way that Manipulate the minds of all the people is if they are very human. The children are waving goodbye, Hamas terrorists are waving to them. This is also part of the psychological warfare. Of course, it is very so cynical and we are playing to their heads and the idea that the Red Cross is cutting all the benefits from this deal is something that is also not tolerated. What would you say was the Red Cross's role or lack in their role in the situation? I said that the Red Cross actually didn't do what it was must doing. And the idea that there are more than 200 hostages held by Hamas and nobody from the Red Cross even think about the idea that they have to demand Hamas to allow them to visit them and they are coming for the photo opportunity in the Red Cross. This is an absurd, not less than that. Now Israel was ready to go back to fighting last night. They gave an ultimatum. If the hostages are not released by midnight, fighting will be resumed. Do you believe that this is the way to go? I haven't heard such an ultimate yesterday. I heard that Israel said that Hamas has to accomplish the release until midnight, but I haven't heard any clear threat from the Israeli side. I hope that next time when Hamas will breach the agreement, Israel will be ready and prepared to retaliate militarily and to talk with Hamas in the language that Hamas might understand. Now Qatar was vocal about prolonging this pause in the fighting and ultimately trying turning it into a general ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. How likely is that to happen? I hope that it will not happen. And as you heard from me many times before, I think that Qatar is a problem. I think that Qatar is an enemy. The main interest or the leading interest of Qatar is to assure the survival of Hamas. Qatar is the biggest provider and supporter of Hamas and other terrorist organizations here in the broader Middle East. Qatar is an empire of evil. And the idea that Qatar became to be the princess of diplomacy here in the region is something that cannot be tolerated morally and strategically. I think that the United States of America did a huge mistake. With regard to Qatar. And unfortunately, Qatar continues playing a very central role. I think that even the Egyptians understand pretty well what are the very negative verifications of the deep Qatarian involvement. And they are trying to take the leading in this regard. And I hope that they will succeed. How can Israel pressure Sinwar? What kind of tools does it have at its... What kind of abilities does it have in order to pressure Sinwar? To continue attacking very massively and very aggressively all the centers of gravity of Hamas in all the Gaza Strait. Not only in the northern parts. In Hanyunas and Drafa. And continue, continue until Hamas leadership. We understand that holding the hostages is not a strategic asset for them. But they're liable, strategic liable. And they will release all the hostages unconditionally. The idea that Hamas still able to condition and or to put on the table conditions and to play with Israel and with the other mediators is... it is just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Professor Kobe Michael, thank you very much for your input. Thank you for having me. Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galant said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far. Let's take a listen. Our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military. As soon as there is a military pressure, they want a break. When you increase the pressure, they want another break. When you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer. And when you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted. That's the whole method. We cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees. Because we have many more. There is a direct connection between the IDF action and the elimination of the enemy. And also between the IDF's actions and bringing the hostages home. This is the process. The timetable for a truce is short. It won't take weeks. It will take days. A little more, a little less. Any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war. That is, if they want to continue discussing the next time, it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting. That's the basis. The Israeli government is proud of our soldiers. The entire nation of Israel is behind you. You should know this and continue to have the strength. You're putting your lives at risk, but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing. And joining us again now in studio is Ariel Oceran, our I-24 News Middle East correspondent. Ariel, what do you have to say about what Galant just, what we heard Galant saying right now? Indeed, the military pressure is believed to be the key cause or the key tool to bring this hostage deal into fruition. Not only are these two goals, the one toppling Hamas and removing it of its leadership capabilities inside the Gaza Strip and release of the hostages, two key goals, but they come together. And this is indeed what we've been seeing. Now, the reason we can say this is because in the past, the absence of military action has not brought the release of hostages because prior to October 7th, Hamas has held four Israeli hostages to alive two citizens as well as the bodies of two soldiers. And so we are indeed seeing that military action is pressuring Hamas, is putting in a position where it cannot refuse to go to a deal in order to bring some humanitarian alleviation, some respite to Israel's fierce attack on the Gaza Strip. However, in this current position where we're at over 50 days since the wars began, Israel is not yet at the 50% mark of neither of those goals. Neither 50% of the hostages are back, neither 50% of the ground operation has been completed. And so there's still a long, long ways to go. And the understanding is that the military achievements that have been reached so far have been able to facilitate a deal that Israel sees as positive, but not enough, not sufficient because besides women and children after this deal, there will still be many, many over 100, 150 hostages remaining in the Gaza Strip. And so the next part of the fighting, it is not clear how that will yield or be translated into future hostage releases, but it is clear that without continued operation in the Gaza Strip, significant attacks against Hamas infrastructure in Gaza, and the next phase is not just going to be limited to northern Gaza. We're talking about south Gaza too, situation is going to be very complicated there. That is not necessarily going to be translated in the same ease, one can say, in terms of how many hostages that will bring to release. So the fact that the current situation, the current deal of 50 hostages being released in four days with the potential of extending that, that is mainly thanks or almost entirely thanks to Israel's military pressure that they have put on Hamas, putting it in a corner. And as far as Israel is concerned, they're going to want to continue with that pressure. The first moment they have once the ceasefire is complete. Now we're seeing eight children released last night, five women, one of those children is nine-year-old Emily Hand. And we're seeing the Prime Minister of Ireland, he tweeted about the release of Emily Hand. What did he mean in this tweet? It's hard to say what he meant, but I haven't seen a more disgraceful tweet by a state leader in recent time. Let's just quickly read the tweet by Leo Varadkar. This is a day of enormous joy and relief for Emily Hand and her family. Emily Hand, obviously, dual national Israeli and Irish, an innocent child who was lost and now has been found and returned. And we breathe a massive sigh of relief. Our prayers have been answered. Now, just a little bit of context. Emily Hand was not lost. She was not taking a hike in the woods. She was kidnapped by monstrous terrorists in Hamas. Her stepmother was murdered as well. And her friends were killed and it's just very difficult to understand what could prompt such a tweet. The wording is very unfortunate. He has been harshly criticized on social media for the wording of this tweet. I am reading this tweet again. I don't even want to imagine what was going through the mind of someone who wrote this. But indeed, this is a very, very poor wording. The fact that a hostage, eight-year-old hostage who was torn from her house, not from her house, but who was kidnapped, she was not lost. She was not found. She was released freed in a hostage exchange deal after she was held for 50 days by a terror organization in underground tunnels. That I think would have been a better tweet to write rather than the fact that she was lost, found, and that the prayers have been answered. Absolutely. Now, if we give some background about her specific story, initially her father was told that she was murdered. He believed that she was no longer alive. And then only two or three weeks later was he notified that she was in fact kidnapped and not murdered. That still doesn't make her lost and now found. That just makes her condition unknown. Now it is known after she was freed by a release in a deal signed, unfortunately, with a terror organization who kidnapped her. That's the plain fact. I think any way to present the situation in a different way only diminishes from the success of her release and also diminishes from the suffering that she went through and could potentially continue to be suffering mentally. Hopefully this will be alleviated as fast and quickly as possible. Now we know that 39 Palestinian terrorists were exchanged in this batch of the deal in return for these Israelis who were released. What do we know about these terrorists, about these prisoners? What have they done? Why were they in prison to begin with? Well, all of them are security prisoners, what Israel calls prisoners who are either convicted of carrying out terror attacks against soldiers or civilians or those who are suspected. Some administrative detainees can be held without trial, but these are the people we're talking about. We're not talking about innocent minors or women who were one day just taken from their homes without doing anything. These are all people. Some of them, blood on their hands, have stabbed Israelis, have carried out shooting attacks against Israelis, have incited against Israelis. And out of the 39, we're talking about 33 minors, six women, and they were greeted across the West Bank for the second day in a row as heroes. Now, I will note that yesterday there was a military operation in Jenin, and so seven of the prisoners who were from Jenin and were expected to go home, they couldn't because of the security situation there. So they spent the night in Bethunia. That just shows the complexity when we're talking about the release of these prisoners. Today we're expecting a similar number of prisoners to be released. Again, these are female prisoners and prisoners under 18 who have been jailed in Israel for security reasons after they've either been convicted or suspected of carrying terror attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers. Now, Egypt stepped in last night in order to accelerate this delay and make sure that the release of the hostages does indeed follow through. What was Egypt's role here? Well, Egypt's role has been very significant. It is the classic or the historic mediator between Israel and Hamas. But indeed, since the start of this war, we've seen Qatar take an increased role. So I think if the first day all the praises went to Qatar, I think yesterday the Egyptians wanted to raise their national pride and show that they're involved in this too. Also in the pressure, as Kobe Michael said before me, that to push it forward, to not let Hamas drag out the situation. But also they want to show that they're a key player here, that they're deeply involved. That if it weren't for them, this wouldn't have happened. We saw this throughout the day yesterday in reporting on Egyptian media. The fact that the images yesterday exclusively from the Egyptian side show that they're really trying to emphasize their role not only in facilitating the hostage deal, but in making sure that the crisis was resolved, that it's carrying out. But also the entry of additional humanitarian aid yesterday. They said at the Rafa border crossing that 100 additional trucks have been entered. And so Egypt clearly trying to show a significant role. Okay. Thank you very much, Ariel Ocerón. That's all for this edition of I-24 News. I'm Siobhan Raviv. Thank you for watching. I-24 News, I'm Siobhan Raviv. And these are the latest developments coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Today is Day 51 of Israel's war with Hamas. After hours of agonizing delay last night, Hamas finally released 13 Israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with Israel, including eight children and five women. Additionally, four Thai nationals were released to Israel as well. Israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon. The hostages have spent 50 days in Hamas' captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in Israel's history, in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on October 7th. One of the conditions which was not met by Hamas was not separating children from their mothers. Among the released hostages overnight was Hila Rotem, who was indeed released without her mother, Raya. Other hostages released included Yahel and Naveh Shoham and their mother, Adi. Their father, Tal, was left behind in captivity. Noam and Alma Or were released without their father, Dror. Maya Regev was released without her brother, Itai. Maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival and is currently treated in an Israeli hospital. Let's take a look at some of the images. Here is eight-year-old Emily Hand reuniting with her father in Israel. In a moment, we'll be seeing it on screen. And Hila Rotem Shoshani, who is 13 years old, with her uncle, after 50 days in captivity, we are unable to see the images at the moment. We'll be seeing them in a minute. Joining us now in Shiba Medical Center, where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our I-24 News senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Alterman. Owen, how many hostages were taken in at Shiba and what do we know about their condition? Sivan, 12. Eight children, four women. And their condition is good. That's according to a press conference, given rear arms standing just a short time ago by the director of the children's hospital, where we're standing. Obviously, he said it was a long night for all of the reasons that you alluded to, but all are in good condition, at least those who are here. And that's obviously welcome news for everyone here in Israel. They got through that long night and, of course, those long weeks of captivity. We know that 21-year-old Maya Regev was wounded, and we know she's in a moderate condition. What do we know about what happened to her? We're still, obviously, everyone's piecing that together. She's at Soroka Hospital, a different hospital, closer to the Gaza Strip, because she needed more immediate medical treatment. Obviously, expected to make a recovery, but obviously going to be more difficult for her than it will be for these other hostages. But obviously, welcome news that all are home and all are in at least reasonably good condition and reunited with their families. Thank you very much, Owen, at Chiba Hospital. And joining us now in studio is Ariel Oceran, our I-24 News Middle East correspondent. Thanks for coming in. There was a lot of suspense last night, and this prolonged delay by Hamas to release the hostages. What do we know about what happened there? Well, details are still starting to emerge, but this is two days of hostage releases and two days that didn't happen according to plan, because the first group of Israelis to be released was supposed to happen Thursday, but that was delayed to Friday, and yesterday almost didn't happen. And so we're seeing that really, Hamas is using every advantage or any method in its arsenal to really drag on this process to continue its psychological warfare on the Israeli public. Now, the understanding is that yesterday, one of the causes for delay was that Hamas claimed that it couldn't find some of the hostages, siblings or parents that would prevent them from splitting families, because obviously, as you mentioned, according to the agreement, they have committed to not split families, but as we all saw over these past two days, this has happened. Like you mentioned, 21-year-old Maya Regev, she was released, her 18-year-old brother Itai remains in captivity. Same thing with Hilal Rotem or Mother Raya is still held by Gaza. And this is despite a commitment by Hamas not to do so. And I think these claims are going to be presented to the mediators, to Qatar, to the Egyptians. But at the end of the day, and this is the sad fact, Israel does not really have any way to make this avoid from happening. At the end of the day, Israel is dealing with a cruelty organization that really is using any method in its arsenal to continue to employ psychological warfare on Israel. Thank you, Ariel. We'll be back for more questions with you in a moment. Joining us from the Tel Aviv Square for the Families of Hostages is our I-24 News correspondent, Robert Swift. Robert, yesterday there was a huge gathering at the square. People were waiting for hours to see this release deal come through. What can you tell us about what happened there? That's right. I was here in attendance last night. And the reports that have come out since have said that there was up to 100,000 Israelis here in attendance. And something that was very noticeable was the fact that whilst we were fixated on our phones, looking at what was happening with the hostages due to that delay, it was very noticeable that the crowd itself, including those who were speaking on the stage, they were not so much fixated on the individual release of the hostages last night, but rather all the hostages. They kept repeating the phrase until everybody is released. And there was the sense that the individual families that were involved in last night's hostage release, they were being given space, being given privacy. One of the speakers, the grandson of one of the hostages released on the first evening, he said that his grandmother had wished to be there, had wished to come and speak, but that the family had explained to her that it was too soon. And that space and privacy was necessary. And therefore the crowd and the speakers very much were fixed on the notion of releasing all of the hostages, including those who have been in Hamas captivity since 2014. Now, as well as talking about the necessity of releasing the hostages, it's worth noting that there was a delegation of Israel's Druze community here, including the leader of the community who spoke to the crowd. And the crowd applauded them on several occasions. It worth being noting that several members of Israel's Druze minority group have fallen in combat since the beginning of ground operations inside the Gaza Strip. Now, we are seeing a lot of solidarity. What is the general mood like right now as more families have been notified about the supposed release of the third batch tonight? Yeah, so in these early hours after the release of the hostages, I think we'll see the same thing as what occurred after the first release. And that's the sharing of images, media from the release. Now, Israel is overnight and first thing in this morning, they're waking up and they're looking at the videos that have been shared of these family reunions where the hostages are being reunited with their parents. If their parents are indeed in Israel, it's worth noting that some of the released hostages still have parents in Gaza or who don't have their mother or father. And so are being met by other family members. Now, the impression given yesterday was that very much Israelis are sharing these images, fixating on these images through social media, through the traditional news. And then last night, the impression given was very much that Israelis wanted to then come together physically to express solidarity, collective sorrow, and longing for the release of the hostages still held inside the Gaza Strip. Thank you very much, Robert, in Tel Aviv. Joining us now is Professor Kobe Michael, Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies and former Deputy Director-General at the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. We've seen the Hamas delay in releasing the hostages last night. There was a lot of drama there, a lot of psychological warfare here, keeping Israel on its toes at every second. Should we be expecting additional surprises to come from Hamas? Yes. And if we will continue behaving in the way that we behave, it will be even worse. I think that we have to learn from the Egyptians that immediately came to Rafah crossing. And after some juicy curses towards Hamas, they just told them that they have immediately to go back to the deal, otherwise they are going to shut down Rafah crossing. And they are going to starve all the population of the Gaza Strip. This is the language that Hamas understands. And if we will continue to be polite, and we will think that we are dealing with a human rights organization from Europe, they will continue terrorizing us psychologically. I mean, there is no doubt about it. I want to point out to take a look at some images that Hamas released. We're seeing it on screen as right now. We see them releasing some of the hostages, the children, and the mothers. This video was released by Hamas itself. Of course. This is the way that Manipulate Hamas manipulates the minds of all the people as if they are very human. The children are waving goodbye. Hamas terrorists are waving to them. This is also part of the psychological warfare. Of course, it is very so cynical. And we are playing to their hands. And the idea that the Red Cross is cutting all the benefits from this deal is something that is also not to tolerate. What would you say was the Red Cross's role or lack in their role in the situation? I said that the Red Cross actually didn't do what it was must doing. And the idea that there are more than 200 hostages held by Hamas and nobody from the Red Cross even think about the idea that they have to demand Hamas to allow them to visit them. And they are coming for the photo opportunity in Rafa crossing. This is an absurd, not less than that. Now Israel was ready to go back to fighting last night. They gave an ultimatum if the hostages are not released by midnight. Fighting will be resumed. Do you believe that this is the way to go? I haven't heard such an ultimate yesterday. I heard that Israel say that Hamas has to accomplish the release until midnight. But I haven't heard any clear threat from the Israeli side. And I hope that next time when Hamas will breach the agreement, Israel will be ready and prepared to retaliate militarily and to talk with Hamas in the language that Hamas might understand. Now Qatar was vocal about prolonging this pause in the fighting and ultimately trying turning it into a general ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. How likely is that to happen? I hope that it will not happen. And as you heard from me many times before, I think that Qatar is a problem. I think that Qatar is an enemy. The main interest or the leading interest of Qatar is to assure the survivor of Hamas. Qatar is the biggest provider and supporter of Hamas and other terrorist organizations here in the broader Middle East. Qatar is an empire of evil. And the idea that Qatar became to be the princess of diplomacy here in the region is something that cannot be tolerated morally and strategically. I think that the United States of America did a huge mistake with regard to Qatar. And unfortunately Qatar continues playing a very central role. I think that even the Egyptians understand pretty well what are the very negative verifications of the deep Qatarian involvement. And they are trying to take the leading in this regard. And I hope that they will succeed. How can Israel pressure Sinoar? What kind of tools does it have at its, what kind of abilities does it have in order to pressure Sinoar? To continue attacking very massively and very aggressively all the centers of gravity of Hamas in all the Gaza Strait, not only in the northern parts, in Hanayunas and Drafa, and continue, continue until Hamas leadership, be it Sinoar, be it Mohammed, Marwan, Issa, and all the others. We understand that holding the hostages is not a strategic asset for them, but a liable, a strategic liable. And they will release all the hostages unconditionally. The idea that Hamas still able to condition and or to put on the table conditions and to play with Israel and with the other mediators is, it is just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. Professor Kobe Michael, thank you very much for your input. Thank you for having me. Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galan said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far. Let's take a listen. Our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military. As soon as there is a military pressure, they want a break. When you increase the pressure, they want another break. When you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer. And when you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted. That's the whole method. We cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees, because we have many more. There is a direct connection between the IDF action and the elimination of the enemy, and also between the IDF's actions and bringing the hostages home. This is the process. The timetable for a truce is short. It won't take weeks. It will take days. A little more, a little less. Any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war. That is, if they want to continue discussing the next time, it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting. That's the basis. The Israeli government is proud of our soldiers. The entire nation of Israel is behind you. You should know this and continue to have the strength. You're putting your lives at risk, but you're bringing results, and we greatly appreciate what you're doing. And joining us again now in studio is Ariel Oceran, our I-24 News Middle East correspondent. Ariel, what do you have to say about what Galant just, what we heard Galant saying right now? Indeed, the military pressure is believed to be the key cause or the key tool to bring this hostage deal into fruition. Not only are these two goals the one toppling Hamas and removing it of its leadership capabilities inside the Gaza Strip and release of the hostages to key goals, but they come together. And this is indeed what we've been seeing. Now the reason we can say this is because in the past, the absence of military action has not brought the release of hostages because prior to October 7th, Hamas has held four Israeli hostages to alive two citizens, as well as the bodies of two soldiers. And so we are indeed seeing that military action is pressuring Hamas is putting in a position where it cannot refuse to go to a deal in order to bring some humanitarian alleviation, some respite to Israel's fierce attack on the Gaza Strip. However, in this current position where we're at over 50 days since the wars began, Israel is not yet at the 50% mark of neither of those goals. Neither 50% of the hostages are back. Neither 50% of the ground operation has been completed. And so there's still a long, long ways to go. And the understanding is that the military achievements that have been reached so far have been able to facilitate a deal that Israel sees as positive, but not enough, not sufficient because besides women and children after this deal, there will still be many, many over 100, 150 hostages remaining in the Gaza Strip. And so the next part of the fighting, it is not clear how that will yield or be translated into future hostage releases, but it is clear that without continued operation in the Gaza Strip, significant attacks against Hamas infrastructure in Gaza and the next phase is not just going to be limited to northern Gaza. We're talking about south Gaza too, situation is going to be very complicated there. That is not necessarily going to be translated in the same ease, one can say, in terms of how many hostages that will bring to release. So the fact that the current situation, the current deal of 50 hostages being released in four days with the potential of extending that, that is mainly thanks or almost entirely thanks to Israel's military pressure that they have put on Hamas, putting it in a corner. And as far as Israel is concerned, they're going to want to continue with that pressure. The first moment they have once the ceasefire is complete. Now we're seeing eight children released last night, five women. One of those children is nine-year-old Emily Hand. And we're seeing the Prime Minister of Ireland, he tweeted about the release of Emily Hand. What did he mean in this tweet? It's hard to say what he meant, but I haven't seen a more disgraceful tweet by a state leader in recent time. Let's just quickly read the tweet by Leo Varadkar. This is a day of enormous joy and relief for Emily Hand and her family. Emily Hand, obviously, dual national Israeli and Irish, an innocent child who was lost and now has been found and returned. And we breathe a massive sigh of relief. Our prayers have been answered. Now, just a little bit of context. Emily Hand was not lost. She was not taking a hike in the woods. She was kidnapped by monsters, terrorists, and Hamas. Her stepmother was murdered as well. And her friends were killed. And it's just very difficult to understand what could prompt such a tweet. The wording is very unfortunate. He has been harshly criticized on social media for the wording of this tweet. Reading this tweet again, I don't even want to imagine what was going through the mind of someone who wrote this. But indeed, this is a very, very poor wording. The fact that a hostage, eight-year-old hostage who was torn from her house, not from her house, but who was kidnapped, she was not lost. She was not found. She was released freed in a hostage exchange deal after she was held for 50 days by a terror organization in underground tunnels. That, I think, would have been a better tweet to write rather than the fact that she was lost, found, and that the prayers have been answered. Absolutely. And now if we give some background about her specific story, initially, her father was told that she was murdered. He believed that she was no longer alive. And then only two or three weeks later, was he notified that she was in fact kidnapped and not murdered. That still doesn't make her lost and now found. It just makes her condition unknown. Now it is known after she was freed by a release in a deal signed, unfortunately, with a terror organization who kidnapped her. That's the plain fact. I think any way to present the situation in a different way only diminishes from the success of her release and also diminishes from the suffering that she went through and could potentially continue to be suffering mentally. Hopefully this will be alleviated as fast and quickly as possible. Now, we know that 39 Palestinian terrorists were exchanged in this batch of the deal in return for these Israelis who were released. What do we know about these terrorists, about these prisoners? What have they done? Why were they in prison to begin with? All of them are security prisoners, what Israel calls prisoners who are either convicted of carrying out terror attacks against soldiers or civilians or those who are suspected. Some administrative detainees can be held without trial, but these are the people we're talking about. We're not talking about innocent minors or women who were one day just taken from their homes without doing anything. These are all people. Some of them, blood on their hands, have stabbed Israelis, have carried out shooting attacks against Israelis, have incited against Israelis. And out of the 39, we're talking about 33 minors, six women, and they were greeted across the West Bank for the second day in a row as heroes. Now, I will note that yesterday there was a military operation in Jenin, and so seven of the prisoners who were from Jenin and were expected to go home, they couldn't because of the security situation there. So they spent the night in Bitunia. That just shows the complexity when we're talking about the release of these prisoners. Today we're expecting a similar number of prisoners to be released. Again, these are female prisoners and prisoners under 18 who have been jailed in Israel for security reasons after they've either been convicted or suspected of carrying terror attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers. Now, Egypt stepped in last night in order to accelerate this delay and make sure that the release of the hostages does indeed follow through. What was Egypt's role here? Well, Egypt's role has been very significant. It is the classic or the historic mediator between Israel and Hamas. But indeed, since the start of this war, we've seen Qatar take an increased role. So I think if the first day of the praises went to Qatar, I think yesterday the Egyptians wanted to kind of raise their national pride and show that they're involved in this too. Also in the pressure, as Kobe Michael said before me, that to push it forward, to not let Hamas drag out the situation, but also they want to show that they're a key player here, that they're deeply involved, that if it weren't for them, this wouldn't have happened. We saw this throughout the day yesterday in reporting on Egyptian media. The fact that the images yesterday exclusively from the Egyptians side show that they're really trying to emphasize their role not only in facilitating the hostage deal, but in making sure that the crisis was resolved, that it's carrying out. But also the entry of additional humanitarian aid yesterday, they said at the Rafa border crossing that 100 additional trucks have been entered. And so Egypt clearly trying to show a significant role. Okay. Thank you very much, Ariella O'Saron. That's all for this edition of I-24 News. I'm Siobhan Raviv. Thank you for watching. I-24 News. I'm Siobhan Raviv. And these are the latest developments coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Today is Day 51 of Israel's war with Hamas. After hours of agonizing delay last night, Hamas finally released 13 Israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with Israel, including eight children and five women. Additionally, four Thai nationals were released to Israel as well. Israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon. The hostages had spent 50 days in Hamas captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in Israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on October 7th. One of the conditions which was not met by Hamas was not separating children from their mothers. Among the released hostages overnight was Hila Rotem, who was indeed released without her mother, Raya. Other hostages released included Yahel and Navesh O'am and their mother, Adi. Their father, Tal, was left behind in captivity. Noam and Alma Or were released without their father, Dror. Maya Righev was released without her brother, Itai. Maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival and is currently treated in an Israeli hospital. Here are some of the latest released images in which 8-year-old Emily Hand reunited with her father in Israel and 13-year-old Hila Rotem Shoshani with her uncle after 50 days in captivity. Take a look. Joining us from the Tel Aviv Square for the families of hostages is our I-24 news correspondent, Robert Swift. Robert, yesterday there was a huge gathering at the square. People were waiting for hours to see this release deal come through. What can you tell us about what happened there? That's right. As many as 100,000 Israelis gathered here during essentially what was a rally rather than a protest. It was more of a coming together, a display of unity. And although this was taking place during the height of that delay with regards to the hostages, something that struck us was the fact that both the speakers and the crowd themselves both seemed to be more fixated on the wider issue of all of the hostages rather than the specific drama of yesterday's hostage release. During the when news came out that there was a delay or later in the evening when news came out that the hostages were being handed over, there wasn't a noticeable sign in the crowd because the people seemed to be very much more fixated on the wider issue of getting all of the hostages out. Repeatedly we heard those speaking referring to getting every single last person who is held captive out. At one point there was one of the speakers, Chaim Yellen, who is a former council head from the area just outside of the Gaza Strip. And he spoke about not only the need to get back every single hostage who was taking prisoner on the 7th of October, but also to get back the individuals who were taking hostage back in 2014. As well as the unity with regards to all of the hostages who have been taken, it's also noted that the delegation of Israel's Druze community were in attendance and they were applauded by the crowd when they arrived. And the leader of Israel's Druze community, Sheikh Moafiq Tareef spoke to the crowd and he said that we identify with your terrible pain and it then went on to say we went out on that terrible day to fight for our dear country. We are part of this country but unfortunately there are people who think differently and that's a shame. Now it's worth noting that around half a dozen Druze soldiers who are members of the IDF have been killed in the fighting since Israeli forces went into the Gaza Strip and there has been some discussion among the Israeli public about Israel's nation state law which was passed in 2018. Now this is a law which essentially, this is a law which the Druze community was not happy with then and is now coming back into debate. Thank you very much, Robert Swift from Tel Aviv. With us now is Lior Peri, whose father, Chaim Peri, was kidnapped from Kibbutz Niroz. His half-brother and half-brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same Kibbutz. Thank you Lior for speaking to us and sorry that you have to be going through this. Thank you, good morning. Lior, can you share what are the sentiments now that some of the hostages have been released? Does it give some hope for more to come? Yes, of course. As we all saw the release and it made us all in the community of the families that were not released yet, it made us all feel very, very optimistic and we had a very good feeling about it. But now it's combined with another feeling that we're not so sure if Israel and Ahmad will manage to proceed in this process in order to take advantage of the situation and try and bring all of the hostages back. We see a way now that they can grow, that Israel and Ahmad can go, but we are very afraid that they might not do it. They might fall into disputes and the demonstrations of power and whatever and avoid it. So the tension is really, really high. A mix of emotions. Now the deal with Hamas this time around only includes women and children and certainly not even all of them. What do you expect the Israeli government to do next in reference to the men, such as your father? As I've said always, the Israeli government should demand all of them. The Israeli government should bring us all the hostages. I don't think Israelis asking for specific people and getting specific people. I think they are getting whatever Hamas is giving them. This is why we say don't try and do a selection between people just bring out whoever is possible to bring out whoever Hamas is giving you or whoever you are able to take them all out. Hopefully the weaker population, those being the women and the children and now we expect the elderly to come. And after that keep on going because it's important for us to say we wish to see everybody out, not just the specific group because every release makes us very, very happy despite whether our loved one is included or not. So we would really love to see everybody out and of course the elderly for the simple reason because they are running out of time. They are really, really running out of time. The condition as understood are maybe okay, we're not sure, but it's definitely not making their lives longer. It's a tough condition for holding the people. So hopefully they will be there in the next year. We saw a lot of solidarity by the families of hostages. Even some of those who were released wanted to go out and participate in the rallies. How did that make you feel? It makes sense because they are the first ones to know the urgency. They understand. It is really hard for other people, for everyday people to imagine the horror of being taking activity into Gaza. It is impossible. And people who were released understand this feeling and they wish to come and to share it with us just to make it more important, just to make it sound. It's very hard to explain the feelings of how it is to be in activity. And this is why the minute they come out of activity, they want to join the effort of releasing all of the rest. And also we need to listen to them because they are the first one who can tell us that we are running out of time. That people will not, especially the old people. We have some very old people that are very sick and they will not laugh. I mean, not without their medication and without the care. And so we have to listen to them, especially to them. We saw some elderly women being released. Hopefully the men will be next right after. If there was any way your father can hear us right now, what would you say to him? I would say hold on, we're coming. But it's not on our hands. It's not on our hands. It's in the name of Israel and Hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and try and try really as hard as possible to act like adults. How difficult it may be for both sides to act maturely. At least the Israeli side should not be afraid of all the games that Hamas has been playing and try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely. That's all that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now. And also the media should be a little bit lower the flame, okay? Because although it's really good to see the celebration of every release, it is not something that we should anticipate or look for. Every time a hostage is coming out, we need to say, great, where's the next one? Or when is it going to be the next one? That's all we need to think about. And so my father, I will tell him, hold on, we are hopefully coming soon. Leo Perry, thank you for speaking and sharing with us. Hopefully your father will be home soon. Thank you very much. Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galan said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far. Let's take a listen. Our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military. As soon as there is a military pressure, they want a break. When you increase the pressure, they want another break. When you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer. And when you increase even more, they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted. That's the whole method. We cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees, because we have many more. There is a direct connection between the IDF action and the elimination of the enemy, and also between the IDF's actions and bringing the hostages home. This is the process. The timetable for a truce is short. It won't take weeks. It will take days, a little more, a little less, and if further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war. That is, if they want to continue discussing the next time, it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting. That's the basis. The Israeli government is proud of our soldiers. The entire nation of Israel is behind you. You should know this and continue to have the strength. You are putting your lives at risk. But you are bringing results, and we greatly appreciate what you're doing. With us now is retired Colonel Miri Aizen, director of the International Institute for Counterterrorism at Reichmann University. Miri, we're hearing you, Av Gala, to speak about applying pressure and more pressure and even more pressure. What do you think about that? So there's no question whatsoever that the Israeli official position is very clear. We are talking right now about the diplomacy that's bringing out the hostages, but that the only reason that that diplomacy has been successful — and we all need to remember successful to a certain degree — is because of the military pressure. I want to give one example for the viewers. Around three and a half weeks ago, Yihya Sengwar, that is the commander, the planner of this Hamas genocidal plan, around three and a half weeks ago, he made a statement. He has not spoken a lot over these last seven weeks, in which he said all of the prisoners inside Israeli jails for the hostages. And that was three and a half weeks ago before we started the military ground operation. And I don't say this happily. I say it sadly. But the pressure that a terror organization understands that allows to release women and children, babies — look at the age of these people that we're seeing right now — the only pressure that works is sadly the military pressure hand in hand with the diplomacy. But the diplomacy is to bring about their return. The only reason that Hamas were willing to talk to anybody and to release these women and children as they're doing so in a very cynical way was because of the military pressure. So yes, it's more military pressure in the future. Are we to be expecting more deals such as this one? So the deal itself, as we've all seen, is with a terror organization. Did we all not notice yesterday the amount of time and the terror organization claims that Israel isn't doing all of the things? Hamas is trying to pose itself as being on an equal, moral equivalency, sovereign equivalency, state versus state opposite Israel. And that's one of the challenges, both in the psychological operations they're trying to show themselves as being generous, as being benevolent. These are the Hamas terrorists that in their play out, murdered 1,200 people, took these 240 people, never said who they have. On the day before, they'll say who are the next ones they're going to release. So I do not want to hope. I want to say we have to get back our 240, but it's the combination. I don't think that it is the diplomacy that is only going to deliver. I really do agree with Minister of Defense Galant that when it comes to a terror organization, you have to continue with the military operation. And I say it sadly. This doesn't make me happy, but I don't think they'll do it otherwise. Now, we saw a lot of suspense last night with Hamas delaying the release by hours with Israel and families not knowing until the last second whether their loved ones will or will not be released. Now, what happened there? Why was there such a delay? Do we know? So it isn't about knowing, it's about what's going to happen today and tomorrow, our own expectations. Think of the psychological climate. We're all focused right now on the hostages, on those amazing children, on the mothers, on the grandmothers, on all of the women. And it's making us all very emotional, meaning this isn't about the hostages. This is about making the state of Israel, all of us here, all of the Israel supporters, those who understand the situation, very emotional. When you are emotional, it impacts your decision making. That's part of the psychological aspect of what Hamas is trying to do. They're trying to turn it into something that no matter what, we have to release all the hostages, that no matter what, we have no any other way except for dealing with Hamas, the terror organization. That is part of the challenge. That means you have to breathe in deep. As I said before, at the end, the only reason they're releasing these are because we were under military pressure. Every day that goes by, there isn't the military pressure. So every day they're going to play games because they're not worried about Israel's military pressure. So we have to threaten with the military pressure. I remind everybody what you know well, that military pressure has brought about a large scale destruction inside the Gaza Strip. It's brought about a lot of deaths because of what Hamas does inside the Gaza Strip. So if Israel initiates military pressure right now, the world is going to be against us. So that's part of the psychological setting, breathing in deep and understanding. It's a terror organization, not anything else that would do. Mary Isam, thank you very much for your input. Thank you all. Joining us now in Shiba Medical Center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our I-24 News senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman. Owen, how many hostages were taken in at Shiba? And what do we know about their current condition? 12 hostages, Sivan, eight children, four women. And we know their condition is good, and we partly know their condition is good. Because of a press conference that happened earlier this morning, just about an hour and a half, two hours ago, right new where I'm standing, let's hear a little bit about what the director of the Children's Hospital here at Shiba Medical Center had to say. They underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination. I'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them, none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention. They will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need. We'll continue to treat them, to accompany them, to hug them and support them, both physically and emotionally. On a personal note, this at the Children's Hospital is a place where we experience unnerving emotional significant events on a daily basis, but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and I'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career. Owen, back to you. So, Siobhan, you hear how emotional it is? Yeah, Siobhan, you hear how emotional it is for the doctors and for the staff here? As you can imagine, we're told by the spokesperson here, the hostages obviously secluded for the most part with their doctors, with those giving them treatment. Obviously, no one having access to them at this point as they are here recovering, but obviously great to hear that they're in good condition. As for the 13th Israeli hostage, Fried, Maya Reghev, she is not here. She is not at the Sheba Medical Center. She's at the Soroka Medical Center in Bersheva, closer to the Gaza Strip. Why? Because she needed more immediate medical condition. Over the last hour, the director of the hospital has said she is expected to undergo surgery today in currently in moderate condition, but the good news, Siobhan, expected to make a full recovery. She had unfortunately been shot in her leg as part of the events on October 7th, and obviously one would imagine that would need the attention of the medical staff there. Beyond that, as for the hostages here, again, eight children, four women, including some incredible stories. Think about, of course, Yael, whose age three, Naveh, her brother, age eight, their mother who's here, their grandmother who's here, Emily Hand, age nine, had thought to have been killed in the October 7th massacre. Now she's released. She's here, had been a hostage now here, released again in good condition, here at the Sheba Medical Center. And of course, sad with the kinds of bittersweet sense. You have the story of Hilarotem, a 13 years old, freed again in good condition, here at Sheba Medical Center, thank God. But the person not freed was her mother, who was supposed to have been freed. According to the terms of the agreement between Israel and Hamas, of course, laboriously brokered through all of those mediators. Her mother's still in captivity in Gaza, Sivan in an apparent breach of the agreement by Hamas. We should also mention that almost all of the hostages, if not all of them who released from Kibbutz Baeri, one of the communities that has become such an emblem of what happened on October 7th, the largest of the Kibbutz scene on the Gaza border, 100 people at that Kibbutz murdered, 50 taken hostage. Thankfully, a number of them, Sivan, released here in good condition in this hospital and in this building. Thank you, Owen Alterman in Sheba Medical Center, thank you. Joining us now in studio is Danielle Shek, former Israeli ambassador to France. Thank you for coming in. We're seeing many efforts to release the hostages in this release deal. We've heard about the cry for military pressure. Do you know about any diplomatic efforts around the world to release the rest of the hostages? Well, yes and no. Clearly, there are countries that are participating in these efforts. We know of the three countries that are involved in actually brokering the deals for the exchanges, Qatar, Egypt, and the United States, most important. But there are many countries, especially countries who have citizens of their own who try to play a role. I will say, though, oddly enough that, as you may know, I'm a part of the Forum of Families of Hostages for the last nearly 50 days. And it actually came out of our organization an appeal to form a coalition of countries that have hostages, that have their citizens, to collaborate as a group in these negotiations. So obviously, it's not for us to be a part of it. It's for the government. And I don't know if this will have a follow-up, but it is, again, an idea that came from civil society rather than from the government. Now, we know that Egypt is involved, Qatar is involved. There seemed to be a little bit of like a silent competition between the two. Who gets the credit? I don't care who gets the credit if they get the job done. To be honest, you know, I was listening to Leo Perri earlier. And one can only imagine the emotional roller coaster that such days like yesterday can create among the families. And he used the word community about the families of hostages. And I think that's a very important part of the psychological aspect of this whole fight. Everybody understands it's going to be a long fight. And the fact that the families are so united, so there's so much solidarity between them. As you said earlier, nearly every family that has the luck and the joy to embrace their loved ones again, they immediately say after the first emotional days, we're coming back to join the fight. And more than that, even those who didn't have a happy ending, but had a tragic ending like Noa Martiano, who was declared dead, her mother said that after the period of mourning, she will come back to the forum to continue the fight until the last hostage. Now, we know that last night in this delay, the agonizing delay, the drama that took place for many hours, we know that at some point Egypt stepped in and physically went in to speak to Hamas to say. Yeah, I think that was a big show of impatience in the end of all this posturing by Hamas, muscle flexing and trying to show who's running this show. Really unnecessary, the whole thing. I mean, the first day, everything went smoothly. And I hope today we'll go smoothly again. Yesterday was really an unnecessary. And it's not only Egypt. It was also Qatar who physically landed in Israel, in the region, and certainly didn't want the first welcome to be a difficulty that would put the whole deal in jeopardy. So both countries stepped in very strongly and put their feet down on Hamas and things finally went well, as honestly, we knew it would be. I said in this studio yesterday that when you have a deal with five participants, Israel, Hamas, Qatar, Egypt and the United States, and none of them have an interest in breaking it up. All of them have an interest in it succeeding. In the end, you'll find a solution for such minute problems as may have arisen yesterday. They both, all of these people put their name on the line. This is their reputation, their name. They mediated. Yeah, I think it's also more than their name. I think most of the participants, certainly the United States and personally President Biden, they really care that these are, they understand that these are real people. These are lives of real people and real families. And they just want this to succeed. They put in a lot of effort and they want this to succeed. And I have to remind people this deal is just the first deal. And it's not a deal about the hostages. It's a deal about hostages. They will, even in the best of cases, they will still remain nearly 150 people to save. That's right. Certainly not all of the hostages will be released in this deal. That's all for this edition of I-24 News. We have rolling coverage providing you with the latest from Israel. Thank you, Daniel Sheikh. I'm Sivan Raveev. Thank you for watching. 24 News, I'm Sivan Raveev and these are the latest developments coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Today is Day 51 of Israel's war with Hamas. After hours of agonizing delay last night, Hamas finally released 13 Israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with Israel, including eight children and five women. Additionally, four Thai nationals were released to Israel as well. Israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon. The hostages had spent 50 days in Hamas' captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in Israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on October 7th. One of the conditions which was not met by Hamas was not separating children from their mothers. Among the released hostages overnight was Hila Rotem, who was indeed released without her mother, Raya. Other hostages released included Yahel and Navesh Shoham and their mother, Adi. Their father, Tal, was left behind in captivity. Noam and Alma Or were released without their father, Dror. Maya Raveev was released without her brother, Itai. Maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival and is currently treated in an Israeli hospital. Here are some of the latest released images in which 8-year-old Emily Hand reunited with her father in Israel and 13-year-old Hila Rotem Shoshani with her uncle after 50 days in captivity. Take a look. Joining us from the Tel Aviv Square for the families of hostages is our I-24 news correspondent, Robert Swift. Robert, yesterday there was a huge gathering at the square. People were waiting for hours to see this release deal come through. What can you tell us about what happened there? That's right. As many as 100,000 Israelis gathered here during essentially what was a rally rather than a protest. It was more of a coming together, a display of unity. And although this was taking place during the height of that delay with regards to the hostages, something that struck us was the fact that both the speakers and the crowd themselves both seemed to be more fixated on the wider issue of all of the hostages rather than the specific drama of yesterday's hostage release. During the when news came out that there was a delay or later in the evening when news came out that the hostages were being handed over, there wasn't a noticeable sign in the crowd because the people seemed to be very much more fixated on the wider issue of getting all of the hostages out. Repeatedly we heard those speaking referring to getting every single last person who is held captive out. At one point there was one of the speakers, Haim Yellen, who is a former council head from the area just outside of the Gaza Strip. And he spoke about not only the need to get back every single hostage who was taken prisoner on the 7th of October, but also to get back the individuals who were taken hostage back in 2014, as well as the unity with regards to all of the hostages who are being taken. It was also noted that the delegation of Israel's Druze community were in attendance and they were applauded by the crowd when they arrived and the leader of Israel's Druze community, Sheikh Moafiq Tariq, spoke to the crowd and he said we identify with your terrible pain and he then went on to say we went out on that terrible day to fight for our dear country. We are part of this country but unfortunately there are people who think differently and that's a shame. Now it's worth noting that around a half a dozen Druze soldiers who are members of the IDF have been killed in the fighting since Israeli forces went into the Gaza Strip and there has been some discussion among the Israeli public about Israel's nation state law which was passed in 2018. Now this is a law which essentially this is a law which the Druze community was not happy with then and is now coming back into debate. Thank you very much Robert Swift from Tel Aviv. With us now is Lior Peri whose father, Chaim Peri, was kidnapped from Kibbutz near Oz. His half-brother and a half-brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same Kibbutz. Thank you Lior for speaking to us and sorry that you have to be going through this. Thank you. Good morning. Lior can you share what are the sentiments now that some of the hostages have been released? Does it give some hope for more to come? Yes of course as we also the release and it made us all in the community of the families that were not released yet. It made us all feel very very optimistic and we had a very very good feeling about it but now it's combined with another feeling that we're not so sure if Israel and Hamas will manage to proceed in this process in order to take advantage of the situation and try and bring all of the hostages back. We see a way now that they can go that Israel and Hamas can go but we are very we are very afraid that they might they might not do it. They might fall into disputes and the and the demonstrations of power and whatever and avoid it. So it's the the detention is really really high. A mix of emotions. Now the deal with Hamas this time around only includes women and children and certainly not even all of them. What do you expect the Israeli government to do next in reference to the men such as your father? As I said always the Israeli government should demand all of them. Even government should say bring us all the hostages. I don't know who if I don't think Israeli is asking for specific people and getting specific people. I think they are getting whatever Hamas is giving them. This is why we say don't try and do a selection between people. Just bring out whoever is possible to bring out whoever Hamas is giving you or whoever you are able to take them all out. Take all of the hostages. Hopefully the weaker population those being the women and the children and now we expect the elderly to come and after that keep on going because we it's important for us to say we wish to see everybody out not just specific groups because every release makes us very very happy despite whether our loved one is included or not. So we would really love to see everybody out and of course the elderly for the simple reason because they are running out of time. They are really really running out of time. The conditions as understood are maybe okay we're not sure but it's definitely not making their their lives longer. It's a tough condition for holding the people so hopefully they will be there in the next year. We saw a lot of solidarity by the families of hostages even some of those who were released wanted to go out and participate in the rallies. How did that make you feel? Yeah it makes sense okay because they know they are the first one to know the urgency. They understand it is really hard for other people for everyday people to imagine the horror of being taking activity into Gaza okay it is impossible and people who were released understand this feeling and they wish to come and to share it with us just to make it just to make it more important just to make it sound okay because it's very hard to explain the feelings of how it is to be in activity and this is why in the minute they come out of the city they want to join the effort of releasing all of the rest and also we need to listen to them because they are the first one who can tell us that we are running out of time. That people will not especially the old people and we have some very old people that are very sick and they will not laugh I mean not without their medication and without the care and so we have to listen to them especially to them. We saw some elderly women being released hopefully the men will be next right after. If there was any way your father can hear us right now what would you say to him? They hold on we're coming but it's not on our hands it's not on our hands it's in the name of Israel and Hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and try and try really as hard as possible to act like adults. How difficult it may be for both sides to act naturally and at least the Israeli side should not be afraid of all the games that Hamas has been playing and they try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely that's all that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now and also the media should be a little bit lower the flame okay because although it's really good to see the celebration of release it is not something that we should anticipate or look for we should every time a hostage is coming out we need to say great where's the next one or when is going to be the next one that's all we need to think about and so my father I will tell him hold on we are hopefully we're coming soon. Lior Perri thank you for speaking and sharing with us hopefully your father will be home soon. Thank you very much. Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galan said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far let's take a listen. Our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military as soon as there is a military pressure they want a break when you increase the pressure they want another break when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer and when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted that's the whole method we cannot leave the operation in the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees because we have many more there is a direct connection between the IDF action and the elimination of the enemy and also between the IDF's actions and bringing the hostages home this is the process the timetable for truth is short it won't take weeks it will take days a little more a little less any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war that is if they want to continue discussing the next time it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting that's the basis the Israeli government is proud of our soldiers the entire nation of Israel is behind you you should know this and continue to have the strength you're putting your lives at risk but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing with us now is retired colonel Miri Aizen director of the international institute for counterterrorism at Reichmann University Miri we're hearing you Afghan to speak about applying pressure and more pressure and even more pressure what do you think about that so there's no question whatsoever that the Israeli official position is very clear we're talking right now about the diplomacy that's bringing out the hostages but that the only reason that that diplomacy has been successful and we all need to remember successful to a certain degree is because of the military pressure I want to give one example for the viewers around three and a half weeks ago Yixinguar that is the commander the planner of this Hamas genocidal plan around three and a half weeks ago he made a statement he has not spoken a lot over these last seven weeks in which he said all of the prisoners inside Israeli jails for the hostages and that was three and a half weeks ago before we started the military ground operation and I don't say this happening I say it sadly but the pressure that a terror organization understands that allows to release women and children babies look at the age of these people that we're seeing right now the only pressure that works is sadly the military pressure hand in hand with the diplomacy but the diplomacy is to bring about their return the only reason that Hamas were willing to talk to anybody and to release these women and children as they're doing so in a very cynical way was because of the military pressure so yes it's more military pressure in the future are we to be expecting more deals such as this one so the deal itself as we've all seen is with a terror organization did we all not notice yesterday the amount of time and the terror organization claims that israel isn't doing all of the things Hamas is trying to pose itself as being on an equal moral equivalency sovereign equivalency state versus state opposite israel and that's one of the challenges both in the psychological operations they're trying to show themselves as being generous as being benevolent these are the Hamas terrorists that in their plan murder 1200 people took these 240 people never said who they have on the day before they'll say who are the next ones they're going to release so i do not want to hope i want to say we have to get back our 240 but it's the combination i don't think that it is the diplomacy that is only going to deliver i really do agree with minister of defense gallant that when it comes to a terror organization you have to continue with the military operation and i say it sadly this doesn't make me happy but i don't think they'll do it otherwise now we saw a lot of suspense last night with Hamas delaying the release by hours with israel and families not knowing until the last second whether their loved ones will or will not be released now what happened there why was there such a delay do we know so it isn't about knowing it's about what's going to happen today and tomorrow our own expectations think of the psychological client we're all focused right now on the hostages on those amazing children on the mothers on the grandmothers on all of the women and it's making us all very emotional meaning this isn't about the hostages this is about making the state of israel all of us here all of the israel supporters those who understand the situation very emotional when you are emotional it impacts your decision making that's part of the psychological aspect of what Hamas is trying to do they're trying to turn it into something that no matter what we have to release all the hostages that no matter what we have no um any any other way except for dealing with Hamas the terror organization that is part of the challenge that means you have to breathe in deep as i said before at the end the only reason they're releasing these are because we were under military pressure every day that goes by there isn't the military pressure so every day they're going to play games because they're not worried about israel's military pressure so we have to threaten with the military pressure i remind everybody what you know well that military pressure has brought about a large scale destruction inside the Gaza strip it's brought about a lot of deaths deaths because of what Hamas does inside the Gaza strip so if israel initiates military pressure right now the world is going to be against us so that's part of the psychological setting breathing in deep and understanding it's a terror organization not anything else that would you mary eisen thank you very much for your input thank you all joining us now in shiba medical center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our i-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent owen alterman owen how many hostages were taken in at shiba and what do we know about their current condition uh 12 hostages uh sivan eight children four women and we know their condition is good and we partly know their condition is good because of press conference that happened earlier this morning just about an hour and a half two hours ago right new where i'm standing let's hear a little bit about what the director of the children's hospital here at shiba medical center had to say they underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination i'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention they will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need we'll continue to treat them to accompany them to hug them and support them both physically and emotionally on a personal note this at the children's hospital is a place where we experience unnerving emotional significant events on a daily basis but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and i'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career oh and back to you so sivan you hear how emotional it is yeah sivan you hear how emotional is for the doctors and for the staff here as you can imagine we're told by the spokesperson here the hostages obviously secluded for the most part with their doctors with those giving them treatment obviously no one having access to them at this point as they are here recovering but obviously great to hear that they're in good condition as for the 13th israeli hostage uh freed uh maya reggaev she is not here she is not at the sheba medical center she's at the saroka medical center in berceva closer to the gaza strip why because she needed more immediate medical condition over the last hour the director of the hospital said she is expected to undergo surgery today in currently in moderate condition but the good news sivan expected to make a full recovery she had unfortunately been shot in her leg as part of the events on october 7th and obviously one would imagine that would need the attention of the medical staff there beyond that as for the hostages here again eight children four women including some some incredible stories uh think about of course yael uh yael yael who's age three neve her brother age eight their mother who's here their grandmother who's here emily hand age nine had thought to have been killed in the october 7th massacre now she's released she's here i had been a hostage now here released again in good condition here at the sheba medical center and of course sad with the kinds of bittersweet sense uh you have the story of of hila rote a 13 years old freed again in good condition here at sheba medical center thank god but who was not the person not freed was her mother who has was supposed to have been freed according to the terms of the agreement between israel hamas of course labor laboriously brokered through all of those mediators her mother's still in captivity in gaza uh sivan in an apparent breach of the agreement by hamas we should also mention that almost all of the hostages if not all of them who released from kibbutz baeri one of the communities that has become such an emblem of what happened on october 7th the largest of the kibbutz scene on the gaza border 100 people at that kibbutz murdered 50 taken hostage thankfully a number of them sivan released and here in good condition in this hospital and in this building thank you oan alterman in sheba medical center thank you joining us now in studio is danielle shek former israeli ambassador to france thank you for coming in we're seeing many efforts to release the hostages in this release deal we've heard about the cry for military pressure do you know about any diplomatic efforts around the world around the world to release the rest of the hostages well yes and no there are clearly there are countries that are participating in these efforts we know of the three countries that are involved in actually brokering the deals for the exchanges katar egypt and the united states most important but there are many countries especially countries who have who have citizens of their owns who who try to play a role i will say though oddly enough that as you may know i'm a part of the forum of families of hostages for the last nearly 50 days and it actually came out of our organization an appeal to form coalition of countries that have hostages that have their citizens to collaborate as a group in these negotiations so obviously it's not for us to be a part of it it's for the government and i don't know if this will have a follow-up but it it is again an idea that came from civil society rather than from the government now we know that egypt is involved katar is involved there seem to be a little bit of like a silent competition between the two who gets the credit i don't care who gets the credit if they get the job done to be honest you know i was listening to uh leo perry earlier and uh one can only imagine the emotional roller coaster that such uh days like yesterday can create among the families and he used the word community about the families of hostages and i think that's a very important part of the psychological aspect of this whole fight everybody understands it's going to be a long fight and the fact that the families are so united so there's so much solidarity between them as you said earlier nearly every family that has the the luck and the joy to embrace their loved ones again they immediately say after the first emotional days we're coming back to join the fight and more than that even those who who didn't have a happy ending but had a tragic ending like noah martiano who was declared dead her mother said that after the period of morning she will come back to the forum to continue the fight until the last hostage now we know that last night in this delay the agonizing delay the drama that took place for many hours we know that at some point egypt stepped in and um physically went in to speak to hamas to say yeah i think there was a big show of impatience in the end of all this posturing by hamas muscle flexing and trying to show who's running this this show really unnecessary the whole thing i mean the first day everything went smoothly and i hope today will will go smoothly again yesterday was really an unnecessary and it's not only egypt it was also kathar who physically landed in in israel in the region and certainly didn't want the first uh on the first welcome to be a difficulty that would put the whole deal in jeopardy so both countries stepped in very strongly and put their foot down feet down on hamas and things finally went well as honestly we knew it would be i i said in this studio yesterday that when you have a deal with five participants israel hamas kathar egypt and the united states and none of them have an interest in uh breaking it up all of them have an interest in it succeeding in the end you'll find a solution for such minute problems as may have arisen yesterday and they both um all of these people put their name on the line this is their their reputation their name they mediated yeah i think that it's also more than their name i think uh most of the participants certainly the united states and personally president biden they really care uh that these are they understand that these are real people these are lives of real people and real families uh and they just want this to succeed they put in a lot of effort and uh they want this to succeed and i i have to remind people this deal is just the first deal and it's not a deal about the hostages it's a deal about hostages there will even in the best of cases they will still remain nearly a hundred uh 50 people to save that's right certainly not all of the hostages will be released in this deal that's all for this edition of i-24 news we have rolling coverage providing you with the latest from israel thank you dania i'm sivana raviv thank you for watching israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well the i-24 news i'm sivana raviv and these are the latest developments coming to you live from televiv today is day 51 of israel's war with hamas after hours of agonizing the lay last night hamas finally released 13 israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with israel including eight children and five women additionally four tai nationals were released israel as well israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon the hostages had spent 50 days in hamas captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on october 7th one of the conditions which was not met by hamas was not separating children from their mothers among the released hostages overnight was hila rotem who was indeed released without her mother raya other hostages released included yahel and navesh shoham and their mother adi their father tal was left behind in captivity noam and alma or were released without their father drore maya reggae was released without her brother itai maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the nova music festival and is currently being treated in an israeli hospital here are some of the latest released images in which nine-year-old emily hend reunited with her father in israel and 13-year-old hila rotem with her uncle after 50 days in captivity take a look joining us now in shiba medical center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our i-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent oan ultraman oan can you tell us about the hostages which were taken in at shiba what do we know about their condition ryao sivandi went over a number of the cases and the names and the faces obviously it's it's so jarring but obviously so emotional it's so wonderful to see people to see people freed here at shiba hospital there are 12 hostages eight children four women in good condition and we know about their condition in part because of a press conference given just near where i'm standing earlier on this morning israel time by the director of the children's hospital here at shiba let's hear a little bit about what he had to say they underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination i'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention they will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need we'll continue to treat them to accompany them to hug them and support them both physically and emotionally on a personal note this at the children's hospital is a place where we experience unnerving emotional significant events on a daily basis but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and i'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career about 21 year old maya reggae was wounded and we know she's in moderate condition what do we know about what happened to her and what is her condition right now well as you mentioned at the top sevan shot in the leg at the nova music festival she was trying to flee what we know is that her condition is moderate she was taken not here to shiba medical center in the center of israel but instead to saroka medical center in bergeva why because it's closer to the gaza strip she was taken there by helicopter because she needed more urgent medical attention by the way may have been released even though she is 21 so herself not a child uh because of the humanity because of her medical condition and for humanitarian reasons that's the that seems to have been the reporting about this uh she will be going undergoing surgery over the course of the day that's what the saroka medical center has said but is expected to make a full recovery so obviously that's welcome news to all of us and as you heard from the director of the children's hospital here sevan in unusual event even by the standards of a children's hospital and don't forget the timing here the nerve wrecking hours of the delay in the transfer in the freeing of those hostages yesterday meant that they arrived here at 3 30 in the morning so in the middle of the night after the staff had been waiting for hours and hours and hours and of course the families as well waiting for hours and hours and hours to receive them and then they get they got their medical attention that is so badly needed by them here even if they're in good condition they are being sheltered not given much access to those beyond the families and the medical staff and don't forget sevan if in fact there are further difficulties with the round of freed hostages tonight don't forget how many hours of tension there will be for the hospital staff here in other parts of israel and of course for those families thank you own alterman at shiba medical center earlier we spoke to liore perry whose father hain perry was kidnapped from kibbutz niroz his half brother and the half brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same kibbutz i asked liore what he would say to his father if he could hear him now take a listen i wish i could say hold on we're coming but uh it's not on our hands something on our hands it's uh in the name of israel and hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and fry and fry really as hard as possible to act like adults how difficult it may be for for both sides to to act naturally uh at least the israeli side should not be afraid of all the games that hamas has been playing and they try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely that's all that's that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now and also the media should be a little bit lower the flame okay because uh although it's really uh good to see the the celebration of every release it is not something that we should anticipate or or uh or look we should uh every time the hostage is coming out we need to say great where's the next one or when is going to be the next one that's that's all we need to think about and so my father i will tell him hold on we are hopefully we're coming soon joining us from televives square for the families of hostages is our i-24 news correspondent robert swift robert talk to us about the solidarity of hostage families we're seeing many families who are happy for their loved ones final return and yet say they will not rest until everyone is home yes that's correct there's uh there's the unity that the various groups of families who've essentially been smashed together by the events of october 7th many of these are people who didn't know each other but now they've been essentially forged into this group of people who have you know a shared need to get their family members out of the gaza strip and many of them are remaining united together even after their family members have been returned and are remaining fixed on those individuals who are still inside the the gaza strip now that was uh noticeable last night when there was an event here of 100 000 is railies one of the the individuals who was speaking then was alon adar who's the grandson of yafa adar released during the first evening's hostage releases and he said we know we have to fight for the release of all and it's worth noting that he has said that his grandmother had wished to be in attendance at yesterday's event but that he had him and his family had said to her uh no now is not the time uh the the hostages who've been released and their immediate family it's important for them to to have you know a moment of quiet a moment of privacy whilst those at the event remain firmly uh concentrated on the need to get the remaining hostages out and that uh that shared uh demand by these groups of families has very much moved uh the the hostage issue right into the prime uh and center of Israeli society's focus right now whilst there is the the military objective of destroying hamas for many Israelis they need to get the uh the the hostages out that is as important if not more important uh than the the destruction of hamas and that's partly why we're at this this current pause in the fighting Robert thank you very much from Tel Aviv Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galan said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against hamas thus far let's take a listen our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military as soon as there is a military pressure they want a break when you increase the pressure they want another break when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer and when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted that's the whole method we cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees because we have many more there is a direct connection between the IDF action and elimination of the enemy and also between the IDF's actions and bringing the hostages home this is the process the timetable for truth is short it won't take weeks it will take days a little more a little less any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war that is if they want to continue discussing the next time it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting that's the basis the Israeli government is proud of our soldiers the entire nation of Israel is behind you you should know this and continue to have the strength you're putting your lives at risk but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing now with us in studio is security analyst and former senior intelligence officer in the IDF Raphael Yerushalmi and also with us is our i24 news defense correspondent Jonathan Regev Jonathan so far we've seen 12 children released out of the about 30 that Hamas promised to release but we only have two more days left in this in this round of the hostage deal what about the other children the the honest answer is i don't know and and we do know that the Hamas that their masterminds of playing psychological games we're speaking of 26 people already released if all in all we're speaking of 50 then the 24 left does that mean that 18 out of those 24 could be children perhaps a do we know that Hamas will adhere to all of the all all everything written in in the agreement word by word we know that the answers no we already saw it last night first with a delay but but let's leave that aside because eventually the deal did happen their part of the deal did happen yesterday but how about a family is not being separated here a 13 year old girl coming back or a 12 year old girl coming back without the mother but that was part of the deal so they can the Hamas saying they've not been able to locate the mother i i don't buy that they're simply not going along the deal therefore yes we're still waiting at least in this round for 18 more children can we be sure that they will come tonight and tomorrow night the answers no we have the 10 months old baby Phil Bibas and his brother Ariel they've not been released we we've seen footage of them being taken out of their home along with their mother or terrible footage and and you know the Israeli public is waiting to see these kids coming home they've kind of been the poster boys of this of this hostage fiasco should we be expecting Hamas to release or should would they be saving this i'm not well i'm not expecting anything from Hamas i'm not expecting anything from them they're evil terrorists and they know very well how to press on on on the sensitive buttons on the Israeli society they're well aware of the fact these two redhead kids uh the young children a baby less than a year old they're kind of symbols for the Israeli society they might be released tonight they might be released tomorrow night let's hope so but but can we be sure that they will be released no we're not sure of anything and can i be absolutely sure that by tomorrow evening we will see 50 Israelis being released the answer to that is no we saw last night how things were delayed and delayed and delayed i would not be surprised at all to see the same difficulties happening tonight and possibly tomorrow night let's hope that everything will end as it should we one thing we did see about Hamas is that if they want to they are able to deliver their part of the deal are there we are they willing to do it i don't know we should be seeing hopefully not more surprises by Hamas um no negative surprises that is uh now they released Hamas released their own video of last night's um release of the hostages in which we see uh you know some of the hostages waving some of Hamas militants terrorists waving uh it appears like they're trying we're seeing the images on screen right now it appears like they're trying to portray themselves as very human exactly because these videos are shown worldwide and yes saying bye bye as if as if they're Mickey Mouse come on this is this is obvious propaganda people who abduct and abduct a 10 month old or nine month old babies he was nine month old at the time common and kill families in their home rape women so now everybody's waving as if we're in disney world the answer is no this is propaganda and then yes everybody in the world including us we will show these images because these are dramatic images saying bye bye come visit us again i don't think anyone buys that maybe maybe apart from the irish prime minister who says that the girl was lost but but i don't think anyone would with a little common sense buys any of that certainly not disney world um you are most certainly right about the massacre and the torture and the mutilation of bodies and the terrible things that were done on october 7th we are very much dealing with a terrorist organization absolutely um we are hearing about a fire along the gaza border do you know anything to tell us about that we have nothing coming out of nothing coming out of the army this is uh what we're seeing out of the gaza border not exactly clear which portion of the gaza border things are happening there we've not heard anything about fighting resuming at least as far as the idf is is concerned the ceasefire is in place as far as i understand for the moment up until tuesday at seven a.m that's four days after it began friday at seven a.m at least on behalf of the israeli army the the the ceasefire is on until tuesday morning that is of course if the other side it leaves along all of its commitments thank you and we're joined with former senior intelligence officer in the idea for failure shalmi thank you for coming in there was a lot of drama last night around the hostage release we waited for hours to see this release coming through and uh do we know what happened there hamas claimed israel was not doing everything it should be there was um there were other players that stepped in egypt katar what happened there hamas wanted to show that it's in control that they're running the show and that the israelis have no choice than to follow suit it's also a cynical game played for psychological warfare against the whole nation the whole people the people of israel the hamas knows very well what we feel how our nerves are on edge this hostage situation can only work when opposite you you have people with high moral standards placing a sacred value on every human life it wouldn't work the other way around we could kidnap as many palestinians as you want the hamas would not negotiate they wouldn't care they would sacrifice them for the cause so it only works because they know our mentality our culture it's a show of strengths a show of control not seeing more than that they are very heavy pressures on the hamas to follow the deal egypt at first i mean generals from the egyptian side took a plane to to to to rafah to come and speak to the hamas and tell them guys you have to deliver the kathari had just arrived in israel kathari representatives the last thing they wanted to happen when they arrived in israel to show that they are in charge either hamas to do something else and then there was this cynical exploitation of videos showing the hostages waving bye-bye to their jailers so there are two things first of all the hamas knows also psychologically that is something called the stockholm syndrome they played on that they deprived the hostages we know now of food so when you're deprived of food and you're alone in a cell and somebody comes all of a sudden with a plate of rice and a smile you're so grateful because you're so desperate that's the stockholm syndrome also if i wave to you like that sometimes automatically you will wave back even if you don't know me so they use that was very well staged and you have to remember one last thing the hostages have been selected there's a selection that was operated the same as in Auschwitz there are hostages people to be killed and people to be raped one video taken by the hamas themselves on the 7th of october shows a young woman being dragged out of a shelter and the chief of the terrorist cell saying this one is not to be a prisoner this one is for rape meaning that those hostages were selected to be hostages to be kept alive and reasonably in good health because there are hostages and they're going to be negotiated for whatever the hamas desires the others were raped and the others were killed and those hostages that are being liberated now are a showcase they are the ones who are the least mistreated there the hamas knows they will be interrogated about how they were detained where they were detained so they want to put forward those who are the least mistreated as a showcase the same way there was terezin starts in the show art as a showcase concentration camp hiding Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen so we have to be very conscious and aware of these tricks the last thing is about what is now the hamas trying to get if the hamas wanted to stop the momentum of the idea offensive and if the hamas wanted this truth only to redeploy and regroup then they won't be interested into prolonging this truth too much but if they think that by prolonging the truth day and another day and another day with 10 more 10 more hostages might lead to a ceasefire a complete stop of the war then they might take that bet and then accept to liberate and have another few extra days with another a few dozens of hostages but remember one thing some of the hostages will not be liberated until the very last minute for the simple reason that they are the life insurance of the leaders of the hamas the life insurance of mr sinwar himself there are two layers of human shields in gaza the palestinians they are the human shields on the ground and then the israeli hostages are the human shields underground and if things get rough and tough mr sinwan we negotiate his own life and his old free passage away to egypt by saying in it take these hostages so they are at least in my opinion 80 to 100 hostages that will not be liberated before we are put the normal pressure on sinwar that he has to exchange them for his own for his own life and so how should israel be reacting to such such a thing so like we have done so far that there is a mixture and it was very well played in a way i think the 24th of november 20 2023 will remember we remember in history books for one of the first time that the taking of hostages was a failure that we played them and we played them very well so far in the history of mankind these stories finish very badly so we managed to do something that was never done before and that was a very clever mixture of diplomatic ballet and pressures from all kinds of countries local or international and the military pressure that military pressure is absolutely essential for the diplomatic part to succeed because first of all you have to convince the ramas that to negotiate at the beginning of this war the ramas didn't even pip about the hostages they didn't say even a word then they say maybe we give you two hostages and we want in exchange a month of truth and we want thousands and thousands of terrorists liberated from israeli jails then they went down down down in the west and then because of the military pressure and because we started especially eliminating in a targeted way harrowing political people of the ramas that we reached the political branch that's that's a nerve you can kill as many terrorists on the ground as many officers of the armed terrorists the ramas won't budge but when you start hitting the political branch and the high leaders that's when they start trembling and that's what happened we we forced them to reach the negotiation point at which point the diplomatic part took over to to finish the close of the deal now Hamas would like the ceasefire to continue it does serve their interests it doesn't so much serve the interests of israel in terms of the war in terms of the objective to defeat ramas to annihilate ramas yes first of all the momentum that sal had is lost we had like a real we're in full swing attack that was succeeding very well i think even above the expectations of the commanders so that that was stopped but the troops now are static that doesn't mean they're inactive they are very very active they are not just fighting they are gathering information they are resting redeploying getting all the supplies that they need for if they have to start the attack again they're patrolling so there are many things that they can do and they exploit these truths to our advantage also this kind of relief because while there is this truth you will notice that there is much much less pressure from the international community about the ceasefire because there's no fighting going on so that's also a good thing it it slowed down that kind of momentum the momentum in national community had to demand from us a ceasefire they see down that we can have humanitarian truth these truths that truth we can we can manage this war in a human way in a dosed way so it's it's a good thing and as i said the idea is very active the only problem is that day after the truth to restart such a huge machine it's a big big machine you have to restart the whole thing so it's going to be a bit difficult the first few hours or the first day but believe me by the second day we will strike and i suppose and i think that we strike even harder than we did before and we'll go down south and we go towards canyons we're there we have to corner the high leadership of the Hamas that's where we can start hoping to see the end of this war now jonathan we see that 39 Palestinian prisoners were exchanged for the Israeli hostages who are these prisoners what have they done what do we know about them they're called people without blood on their hand and that is for the simple reason that they have not succeeded in having blood on their hand that's the that's the only thing they were trying to kill israelis as simple as that they were unsuccessful but they were trying to do it therefore the terrorist and potential murderers and their ideology change in in jail we can assume that the answer is no and therefore they're out there and and ready possibly to carry out the next attack some of them have Israeli residency not Israeli nationality but those who live in east Jerusalem at least on paper there is really residents and they have freedom of movement all across the state of israel so they have to be closely closely monitored and those in the west bank as well we're speaking of women and minors but but but people who are who are trying to carry out a terror attacks and i'm hoping that 39 more will be released today and 39 more will be released tomorrow because that means that 13 Israelis were released in each day but but Israel has to closely monitor these people because because obviously these are terrorists that have tried to to carry out attacks in the past and we can be quite sure that at least for some of them will try to carry out attacks in the future and so they did indeed try to commit crimes against Israelis that's all for this latest edition of i-24 news thank you very much we have rolling coverage providing you with the latest from israel we'll be back at the top of the hour for more news i'm sivan ravine thank you for watching the i-24 news i'm sivan ravine and these are the latest developments coming to you live from televiv today is day 51 of israel's war with hamas after hours of agonizing delay last night hamas finally released 13 israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with israel including eight children and five women additionally four tai nationals were released to israel as well israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon the hostages had spent 50 days in hamas captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on october 7th one of the conditions which was not met by hamas was not separating children from their mothers among the released hostages overnight was hila rotem who was indeed released without her mother raya other hostages released included yahel and navesh oham and their mother adi their father tal was left behind in captivity noam and alma or were released without their father drore maya reggae was released without her brother itai maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the nova music festival and is currently being treated in an israeli hospital here are some of the latest released images in which nine-year-old emily henne reunited with her father in israel and 13-year-old hila rotem shoshani with her uncle after 50 days in captivity take a look joining us now in shiba medical center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our i-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent oan alterman oan can you tell us about the hostages which were taken in at shiba what do we know about their condition reo sevandy went over a number of the cases and the names and the faces obviously it's it's so jarring but obviously so emotional it's so wonderful to see people to see people freed here at shiba hospital there are 12 hostages eight children four women in good condition and we know about their condition in part because of a press conference given just near where i'm standing earlier on this morning israel time by the director of the children's hospital here at shiba let's hear a little bit about what he had to say they underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination i'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention they will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need we'll continue to treat them to accompany them to hug them and support them both physically and emotionally on a personal note this at the children's hospital is a place where we experience a nerving emotional significant events on a daily basis but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and i'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career oh and we know that 21 year old maya reggae was wounded and we know she's in moderate condition what do we know about what happened to her and what is her condition right now well as you mentioned at the top sivan shot in the leg at the nova music festival she was trying to flee what we know is that her condition is moderate she was taken not here to shiba medical center in the center of israel but instead to saroka medical center in bergeva why because it's closer to the gaza strip she was taken there by helicopter because she needed more urgent medical attention by the way may have been released even though she is 21 so herself not a child because of the human because of her medical condition and for humanitarian reasons that's the that seems to have been the reporting about this she will be going undergoing surgery over the course of the day that's what the saroka medical center has said but is expected to make a full recovery so obviously that's welcome news to all of us and as you heard from the director of the children's hospital here sivan in unusual event even by the standards of a children's hospital and don't forget the timing here the nerve-wracking hours of the delay in the transfer in the freeing of those hostages yesterday meant that they arrived here at 3 30 in the morning so in the middle of the night after the staff had been waiting for hours and hours and hours and of course the families as well waiting for hours and hours and hours to receive them and then they get they got their medical attention that is so badly needed by them here even if they're in good condition they are being sheltered not given much access to those beyond the families and the medical staff and don't forget sivan if in fact there are further difficulties with the round of freed hostages tonight don't forget how many hours of tension there will be for the hospital staff here in other parts of israel and of course for those families thank you own alterman at shiba medical center earlier we spoke to leor perry whose father haim perry was kidnapped from kibbutz near oz his half brother and the half brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same kibbutz i asked leor what he would say to his father if he could hear him now take a listen i wish i could say hold on we're coming but uh it's not on our hands something in our hands it's uh in the name of israel and hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and fry and fry really as hard as possible to act like adults how difficult it may be for for for both sides to to act naturally uh at least the israeli side should not be a trade of all the games that hamas has been playing and they try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely that's all that's that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now and also the media should be a little bit lower the flame okay because uh although it's really uh good to see the the celebration of every release it is not something that we should anticipate or or uh or look we should uh every time a hostage is coming out we need to say great where's the next one or when is going to be the next one that's that's all we need to think about and so my father i will tell him hold on we are hopefully we're coming soon joining us from televiv square for the families of hostages as our i24 news correspondent robert swift robert talk to us about the solidarity of hostage families we're seeing many families who are happy for their loved ones final return and yet say they will not rest until everyone is home yes that's correct there's uh there's the unity that the various groups of families who've essentially been smashed together by the events of october 7th many of these are people who didn't know each other but now they've been essentially forged into this group of people who have you know a shared need to get their family members out of the gaza strip and many of them are remaining united together even after their family members have been returned and are remaining fixed on those individuals who are still inside the the gaza strip now that was noticeable last night when there was an event here of 100 000 Israelis one of the the individuals who was speaking then was alon adar who's the grandson of yafa adar released during the first evening's hostage releases and he said we know we have to fight for the release of all and it's worth noting that he said that his grandmother had wished to be in attendance at yesterday's event but that he had him and his family had said to her no now is not the time the the hostages who've been released and their immediate family it's important for them to to have you know a moment of quiet a moment of privacy whilst those at the event remain firmly concentrated on the need to get the remaining hostages out and that that shared demand by these groups of families has very much moved the hostage issue right into the prime and center of Israeli society's focus right now whilst there is the the military objective of destroying Hamas for many Israelis they need to get the the hostages out that is as important if not more important than the the destruction of Hamas and that's partly why we're at this this current pause in the fighting Robert thank you very much from Tel Aviv Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galan said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far let's take a listen our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military as soon as there is a military pressure they want a break when you increase the pressure they want another break when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer and when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted that's the whole method we cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees because we have many more there is a direct connection between the IDF action and the elimination of the enemy and also between the IDF actions and bringing the hostages home this is the process the timetable for truth is short it won't take weeks it will take days a little more a little less any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war that is if they want to continue discussing the next time it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting that's the basis the Israeli government is proud of our soldiers the entire nation of Israel is behind you you should know this and continue to have the strength you're putting your lives at risk but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing now with us in studio is security analyst and former senior intelligence officer in the IDF Rafael Yerushalmi and also with us is our i-24 news defense correspondent Jonathan Regev Jonathan so far we've seen 12 children released out of the about 30 that Hamas promised to release but we only have two more days left in this in this round of the hostage deal what about the other children the the honest answer is i don't know and and we do know that the Hamas the their masterminds of playing psychological games we were speaking of 26 people already released if all in all we're speaking of 50 then the 24 left does that mean that 18 out of those 24 could be children perhaps a do we know that Hamas will adhere to all of the all all everything written in in the agreement word by word we know that the answers no we already saw it last night first with a delay but but let's leave that aside because eventually the deal did happen their part of the deal did happen yesterday but how about families not being separated here a 13 year old girl coming back or a 12 year old girl coming back without the mother but that was part of the deal so they can the Hamas saying they've not been able to locate the mother i don't buy that they're simply not going along the deal therefore yes we're still waiting at least in this round for 18 more children can we be sure that they will come tonight and tomorrow night the answer is no we have the 10 months old baby feel bibas and his brother Ariel they've not been released we we've seen footage of them being taken out of their home along with their mother or terrible footage and and you know the Israeli public is waiting to see these kids coming home they've kind of been the poster boys of this of this hostage fiasco should we be expecting Hamas to release or should would they be saving this i'm not i'm not expecting anything from Hamas i'm not expecting anything from them they're evil terrorists and they know very well how to press on on on the sensitive buttons on the Israeli society they're well aware of the fact these two redhead kids the young children a baby less than a year old they're kind of symbols for the Israeli society they might be released tonight they might be released tomorrow night let's hope so but but can we be sure that they will be released no we're not sure of anything and can i be absolutely sure that by tomorrow evening we will see 50 Israelis being released the answer to that is no we saw last night how things were delayed and delayed and delayed i would not be surprised at all to see the same difficulties happening tonight and possibly tomorrow night and let's hope that everything will end as it should we one thing we did see about Hamas is that if they want to they are able to deliver their part of the deal are there we are they willing to do it i don't know we should be seeing hopefully not more surprises by Hamas no negative surprises that is now they released Hamas released their own video of last night's release of the hostages in which we see you know some of the hostages waving some of Hamas militants terrorists waving it appears like they're trying we're seeing the images on screen right now it appears like they're trying to portray themselves as very human exactly because these videos are shown worldwide and yes saying bye bye as if as if they're Mickey Mouse come on this is this is obvious propaganda people who abduct and abducted 10 month old or nine month old babies he was nine month old at the time come in and kill families in their home rape women so now everybody's waving as if we're in disney world the answer is no this is propaganda and then yes everybody in the world including us we will show these images because these are dramatic images saying bye bye come visit us again i don't think anyone buys that maybe maybe apart from the irish prime minister who says that the girl was lost but but i don't think anyone would with a little common sense buys any of that certainly not disney world um you are most certainly right about the massacre and the torture and the mutilation of bodies and the terrible things that were done on october seventh we aren't very much dealing with a terrorist organization absolutely um we are hearing about a fire along the gaza border do you know anything to tell us about that we have nothing coming out of nothing coming out of the army this is what we're seeing out of the gaza border not exactly clear which portion of the gaza border things are happening there we've not heard anything about uh fighting uh resuming at least as far as the idf is is is concerned the ceasefire is in place as far as i understand for the moment up until tuesday at seven a m that's four days after it began a friday at seven a m at least uh on behalf of the israeli army the the the ceasefire is on until tuesday morning that is of course if the other side leaves along all of its commitments thank you and we're joined with former senior intelligence officer in the idf raffaello charmi thank you for coming in there was a lot of drama last night around the hostage release we waited for hours to see this release coming through and uh do we know what happened there hamas claimed israel was not doing everything it should be there was there were other players that stepped in egypt katar what happened there hamas wanted to show that it's in control that they're running the show and that the israelis have no choice than to follow suit it's also a cynical game played for a psychological warfare against the whole nation the whole people the people of israel the hamas knows very well what we feel uh how our nerves are on edge uh this hostage situation can only work when uh opposite you you have people with high moral standards placing a sacred value on every human life it wouldn't work the other way around we could kidnapped as many palestinians as you want the hamas would not negotiate they wouldn't care they would sacrifice them for the cause so it only works because they know our mentality our culture uh it's a show of strength a show of control and not seeing more than that uh they are very heavy pressures on the hamas to uh follow the deal uh egypt at first i mean generals from the egyptian side took a plane to to to to rafah to come and speak to the hamas and tell them guys you have to deliver uh the kathari had just arrived in israel kathari representatives the last thing they wanted to happen when they arrived in israel to show that they are in charge is a hamas to do something else and then there was this cynical exploitation of videos showing the hostages waving bye bye to their jailers so there are two things first of all the hamas knows also uh psychologically that is something called the stockholm syndrome they played on that they deprived the hostages we know now of food so when you're deprived of food and you're alone in a cell and somebody comes all of a sudden with a plate of rice and a smile you're so grateful because you're so desperate that's the stockholm syndrome also if i wave to you like that sometimes automatically you will wave back even if you don't know me so they use that was very well staged and you have to remember one last thing the hostages have been selected there's a selection that was operated the same as in auschwitz there are hostages people to be killed and people to be raped one video taken by the hamas themselves on the 7th of october shows a young woman being dragged out of a shelter and the chief of the terrorist cell saying this one is not to be a prisoner this one is for rape meaning that those hostages were selected to be hostages to be kept alive and reasonably in good health because there are hostages and they're going to be negotiated for whatever the hamas desires the others were raped and others were killed and those hostages that are being liberated now are a showcase they are the ones the ones where the least mistreated the hamas knows they will be interrogated about how they were detained where they were detained so they want to put forward those who are they were the least mistreated as a showcase the same way there was terezin starts in the show art as a showcase concentration camp hiding auschwitz and bergen belsen so we have to be very conscious and aware of these tricks the last thing is about what is now the ramas trying to get if the ramas wanted to stop the momentum of the idf offensive and if the ramas wanted this truth only to redeploy and regroup then they won't be interested into prolonging this truth too much but if they think that by prolonging the truth day and another day and another day with 10 more 10 more hostages might lead to a ceasefire a complete stop of the war then they might take that bet and then accept to liberate and have another few extra days with another few dozens of hostages but remember one thing some of the hostages will not be liberated until the very last minute for the simple reason that they are the life insurance of the leaders of the ramas the life insurance of mr sinwar himself there are two layers of human shields in gaza the palestinians they are the human shields on the ground and then the israeli hostages are the human shields underground and if things get rough and tough mr sinwan we negotiate his own life and his all free passage away to egypt by saying in it take these hostages so they are at least in my opinion 80 to 100 hostages that will not be liberated before we are put the normal pressure on sinwar that he has to exchange him for his own for his own life and so how should israel be reacting to such such a thing so like we have done so far that there is a mixture and it was very well played in a way i think the 24th of november 20 2023 will remember we remember in history books for one of the first time that the taking of hostages was a failure that we played them and we played them very well so far in the history of mankind these these stories finish very badly so we managed to do something that was never done before and that was a very clever mixture of diplomatic ballet and pressures from all kinds of countries local or international and the military pressure that military pressure is absolutely essential for the diplomatic part to succeed because first of all you have to convince the ramas that to negotiate at the beginning of this war the ramas didn't even pip about the hostages they didn't say even a word then they say maybe we give you two hostages and we want to exchange a month of truth and we want thousands and thousands of terrorists liberated from israeli jails then they went down down down in the west and then because of the military pressure and because we started especially eliminating in a targeted way harrowing political people of the ramas that we we reached the political branch that's that's nerve you can kill as many terrorists on the ground as many officers of the armed terrorists the ramas won't budge but when you start hitting the political branch and the high leaders that's when they start trembling and that's what happened we forced them to reach the negotiation point at which point the diplomatic part took over to to finish the close of the deal now ramas would like the ceasefire to continue it does serve their interests it doesn't so much serve the interests of israel in terms of the war in terms of the objective to defeat ramas to annihilate ramas yes first of all the momentum that sal had is lost we had like a real we're in full swing attack that was succeeding very well i think even above the expectations of the commanders so that that was stopped but the troops now are static that doesn't mean they're inactive they are very very active they are not just fighting they are gathering information they are resting redeploying getting all the supplies that they need for if they have to start the attack again they're patrolling so there are many things that they can do and they exploit these truths to our advantage also this kind of relief because while there is this truth you will notice that there is much much less pressure from the international community about the ceasefire because there's no fighting going on so that's also a good thing it slowed down that kind of momentum the momentum in international community had to demand from us a ceasefire they see down that we can have humanitarian truth these two is not true we can we can manage this war in a human way in a dosed way so it's a good thing and as i said the idea is very active the only problem is that day after the truth to restart such a huge machine it's a big big machine you have to restart the whole thing so it's going to be a bit difficult the first few hours or the first day but believe me by the second day we will strike and i suppose and i think that we strike even harder than we did before and we'll go down south and we go towards khanunis we're there we have to corner the high leadership of the hamas that's where we can start hoping to see the end of this war now jonathan we see that 39 palestinian prisoners were exchanged for the israeli hostages who are these prisoners what have they done what do we know about them they're called people without blood on their hand and that is for the simple reason that they have not succeeded in having blood on their hand that's the that's the only thing they were trying to kill israelis the simple as that they were unsuccessful but they were trying to do it therefore their their terrorists and potential murderers and their ideology changing in jail we can assume that the answer is no and therefore they're out there and and and ready possibly to carry out the next attack some of them have israeli residency not israeli nationality but those who live in east jerusalem at least on paper there is really residents and they have freedom of movement all across the state of israel so they have to be closely closely monitored and those in the west bank as well we're speaking of women and minors but but but people who are who are trying to carry out a terror attacks and i'm hoping that 39 more will be released today and 39 more will be released tomorrow because that means that 13 israelis were released in each day but but israel has to closely monitor these people because because obviously these are terrorists that have tried to to carry out attacks in the past and we can be quite sure that at least for some of them we'll try to carry out attacks in the future and so they did indeed try to commit crimes against israelis that's all for this latest edition of i-24 news thank you very much jonathan revighev and rafaeli roshalmi we have rolling coverage providing you with the latest from israel we'll be back at the top of the hour for more news i'm sievan reviv thank you for watching israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well who's i'm sievan reviv and these are the latest developments coming to you live from televiv today is day 51 of israel's war with hamas after hours of agonizing the lay last night hamas finally released 13 israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with israel including eight children and five more five women additionally four ties nap tie nationals were released to israel as well israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon the hostages had spent 50 days in hamas captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on october 7th one of the conditions which was not met by hamas was not separating children from their mothers among the released hostages overnight was hila rotem who was indeed released without her mother raya other hostages released included yahel and navesh oam and their mother adi their father tal was left behind in captivity noam and alma or were released without their father drul maya reggae was released without her brother itai maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the nova music festival and is currently treated in an israeli hospital here are some of the latest released images in which nine-year-old emily hand reunite with her father in israel and 13-year-old hila rotem shoshani with her uncle after 50 days in captivity take a look joining us from the televives square for the families of hostages is our i-24 news correspondent robert swift robert what are we seeing happening at the square right now did families begin to arrive it's now 11 o'clock here the local time and people are starting to come into the square and so far we've not seen any of the families many of them have been maintaining their privacy during this difficult time but there are plenty of other israelis who are here as you can see behind me the the square is starting to to fill up now during the the evening hours there tends to be more of a sort of a communal or groups people of people coming together to pray and or to sing together right here during the day it seems to be more people coming essentially just to have a look to see what's happening here to feel in touch with what they are seeing in the media to see the to be in touch with the images that they're seeing on their social media now there's lots of art displays here some people are coming taking a look at that and and then moving on noticeably there's quite a lot of young people here and that's possibly due to them feeling a connection with the the large number of hostages that were taken who were themselves young particularly those that were kidnapped from the nova music festival thank you very much rob in televive here with us in studio is emir oran defense and government commentator and also with us is ariel osaran our i-24 news middle east correspondent thank you both for joining ariel we saw a video of emily hind joining her father after all these days in captivity and we also see that the prime minister of ireland tweeted about the release of this nine-year-old girl what did he mean in his tweet i don't i don't know what he the irish prime minister meant in his tweet i don't think anyone can really understand why he chose the words that he chose let's start off with reading what he wrote leo varadkar tweeted last night this is a day of enormous joy and relief for emily hand and her family an innocent child who was lost has now been found and returned we breathe a massive sigh of relief our prayers have been answered now describing the kidnapping of a of a young girl taking her taking her to holding her for 50 days in underground tunnels tear organization after they killed her stepmother it's like saying it's like describing the 9-11 terror attacks as a plane that lost its way and found itself in a tower just this this choice of words is so i mean for lack of a of a better word disgraceful it really does not give any respect to emily who is an irish citizen as well and given the intense criticism on social media also a response this morning by ellie coin israel's foreign minister i'll read you his response saying mr prime minister it seems you have lost your moral compass i need a reality check emily hand was not lost she was kidnapped by a terror organization worth worse than isis that murdered her stepmother emily and more than 30 other israeli children were taken hostage by hamas and you leo varadkar are trying to legitimize and normalize terror shame on you this is what israel's foreign minister wrote i am not sure this is the last word we are going to hear by israeli officials regarding this tweet by the irish prime minister amir did you see that tweet yes and it's fortunate that the irish prime minister's prayers have caused the release of this particular hostage according to him it's as if the prayers and not the deal between israel and hamas brokered by others managed it and he didn't even mention of course all the others hostages in addition to what a real pointed out that the circumstances regarding this lost and found as if it's a baggage in a train station this is really regrettable the way that he chose his words now earlier we spoke to leo perry whose father haim perry was kidnapped from kibbutz near oz his half brother and the half brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same kibbutz i want you to to look i asked leo what he would say to his father if he could hear him now let's take a listen i wish i could say hold on we're coming but uh it's not on our hands not on our hands it's uh in the name of israel and hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and fry and fry really as hard as possible to act like adults how difficult it may be for for for both sides to to act maturely at least the israeli side should not be afraid of all the games that the hamas have been playing and try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely that's all that's that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now and also the media should be a little bit lower the flame okay because uh uh although it's really uh good to see the the celebration of every release it is not something that we should uh anticipate or uh we should uh every time a a hostage is coming out we need to say great where's the next one or when you're going to be the next one that's that's all we need to think about and so my father i will tell him hold on we are hopefully we're coming soon now merely or is saying when is the next release that's um what all the families of the hostages are looking to know we know that there's a batch that's supposed to be released tonight and then tomorrow but what after that there's so many there are so many more that's very true um rather than do it uh retail every day another dozen or 13 it should be done wholesale the israeli government should work for and initiate offer itself if the initiative doesn't come from another corner the trade of another 10 or 12 days of ceasefire for a whole bunch of hostages 130 150 whatever uh the going great will be in this human trade as despicable as the term can be now up to now we have been uh accustomed to a daily routine which becomes a daily torture will they one day what's going on there um what's the the problem is it the Hamas the red cross Egypt Israel um and and that's uncalled for it can be changed if there is any willingness on the part of both sides and the chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces Lieutenant General Herzi Alevi um indicated as much uh when he called on his troops to prepare for the next phase of the war if fighting is resumed but he also listed the two war aims as first the release of all hostages for which the military is working and the dismantling of Hamas in Gaza he did not mention killing the Hamas leadership the way Netanyahu and gallant did um he did not repeat the um uh often um cited claim that Israel's warring is killing Yacha Sidwar and Muhammad and one may see there uh a small opening for negotiations for diplomacy and only should they fail will the fighting resume now we're seeing uh Hamas playing games with Israel last night's delay seems to have been you know a dramatic uh psychological play on Israel we shouldn't look at the uh tiny minute details of what is happening every day it's a bigger picture Hamas is trying to position itself it's posturing branding whatever you want to call it they want to be seen as an equal partner to Israel and then it wants to be seen as being reliable so that if they create an artificial crisis they are going to solve it have no fear Hamas will come through so yes it's a game but it's not necessarily the game of a truck not being able to cross from South Gaza to the north or the prisoners released from Israeli prisons it's the image they want to project thank you Amir now joining us now in Shiba medical center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our i-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman oh and how many hostages we're taking in at Shiba and what do we know about their condition now see on 12 eight children four women the vast majority the 12 of the 13 Israeli hostages taken here to Shiba medical center their condition is reported to be good of course they got here in the middle of the night last night because of the delays about which you were just speaking with Amir Oran as for their condition we learned a lot about it just a few hours ago when the director of the children's hospital here at Shiba spoke to the media let's hear a little bit about what he had to say the underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination i'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention they will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need we'll continue to treat them to accompany them to hug them and support them both physically and emotionally on a personal note this at the children's hospital is a place where we experience unnerving emotional significant events on a daily basis but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and i'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career now oh and one of the hostages who was released 21-year-old Maya Regev she was shot and wounded what do we know about what happened to her and what's her condition now yes she was shot and wounded on october 7th itself at the nova music festival she was taken by helicopter sorot to soroka medical center in berceva why closer to the gaza strip she needed more immediate medical attention given that gunshot wound the the soroka hospital earlier on this morning said that she will be undergoing surgery over the course of today her condition is moderate but she's expected to make a full recovery sivan that's ab this is obviously good news as for the wider picture of these hostages almost all of them if not all of them from kibbutz baeri of course one of the sites of the most severe massacres on october 7th and so of course that community reunited with at least some of the 50 hostages taken from kibbutz baeri on october 7th of course 100 members of that kibbutz one of the largest if not the largest of the gaza border communities 100 members of kibbutz baeri murdered on october 7th itself so some small amount of solace for that kibbutz as it welcomes some of its children and some of its women home we should say also sivan there is of course the case of hila wrote him who's who was separated from her mother right hila wrote him 13 years old freed but her mother still reportedly in captivity in the gaza strip but in many many other cases the children and mothers were released but the fathers are still held captive in the gaza strip of course men not part grown men not part of this round of prisoner releases over the course of this four day pause at any rate israelis obviously very happy with the pictures of those who have been freed and certainly hoping to bring the rest of them home sivan thank you oh and alter men achieve a medical center back in studio here i'm with amir oran and ariel osaron now we're taught we're speaking to oan and he's talking to us about these hostages about them coming home and there was a price 39 palestinian prisoners in this batch last night's batch and today there will be more in the in the third batch and of course tomorrow are we expecting to see more of this is it will the ceasefire be extended will those will they try to get more prisoners out the quota has already been set for 300 palestinian prisoners and internees various offenses minors and women only and out of those 300 only 39 plus the same number the day before have been released already so it is probably going to last for several more days and then the israeli government will have to decide whether to release more but not minors and women this has probably run out this particular stock so to say but what we saw right now in oan's report is how resilient the israeli children have been in captivity and obviously people here who were all hoping for their return had no idea what is happening there and it's very conflicting to sure and to see that even though we don't know what happened exactly medically internally they look in in good shape they survived they were resilient they found ways to endure and prevail I interviewed another guest in a in a previous broadcast who said that Hamas divided the israelis into those to be murdered those to be kidnapped those to be raped those who were kidnapped were you know they made sure that they remain alive in order for these kind of tradeoffs once they were in Gaza sometimes it was arbitrary a particular person decided to shoot or to spare but once they were under a higher authority the custody of those directly under the Hamas leadership obviously they wanted to keep them alive and well so that they could bring them back in return for something this something is not necessarily the prisoners in israeli jails it's the ceasefire now I want you both to take a look at israeli defense minister you have gallant who said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far let's take a listen our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military as soon as there is a military pressure they want a break when you increase the pressure they want another break when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer and when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted that's the whole method we cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees because we have many more there is a direct connection between the idea of action and the elimination of the enemy and also between the idea of actions and bringing the hostages home this is the process the timetable for truth is short it won't take weeks it will take days a little more a little less any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war that is if they want to continue discussing the next time it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting that's the basis the Israeli government is proud of our soldiers the entire nation of Israel is behind you you should know this and continue to have the strength you're putting your lives at risk but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing now we're here in gallant here talk about military pressure how does israel go back to such military pressure and an offensive after all these days of pause well both gallant and the military chief halevi made this claim and there is no evidence to show that they are right that there is a direct connection a correlation between what happened in northern Gaza over the preceding three weeks and the hostage release it's even illogical to assume that this was what happened because the very reason for Hamas kidnapping those people even though they had no idea they will get so many was to trade them for something they knew that the Israeli military is coming after them so this in itself did not bring about the release we still have ahead of us if the fighting resumes and the Israeli Israeli military moves south to Hanyunis where they are probably hiding we still have to see whether the Hamas leadership will try to trade the soldiers captured up to now we have only seen civilians for immunity for themselves and this will probably be not Israel's decision to make but president biden's and Egypt Qatar and the other brokers the mediators now ariel do you foresee that the israel will go back to a military offense after this negotiating negotiating these release deals yeah look this period is agreed upon for four days with the option to be extended for an additional five days so we're talking about at least four days no more than nine days but before this Israeli officials military officials leaders all saying Israel is going to return to the ground operation with full force prior to the ceasefire is the idea of also dropped leaflets in southern Gaza warning the residents of the eastern neighborhoods of Hanyunis to make their way west to al-Muassi the designated humanitarian area I don't think there is much of a question mark over that option but what is what does remain to be seen how long this will the ceasefire be extended if at all but the defense minister austin called yov galant last night and set so many conditions like the conflicting with international organizations and not impairing aid missions that it will be nearly impossible to resume the fighting under those conditions fighting in the south is going to be very different much more complicated than what happened up in the north but my understanding is that the plan is that this will continue after the ceasefire thank you both for this important input an Israeli organization is working to strengthen young communities in the country with an initiative called so a tutser et haaretz or made in israel one of the communities involved is nachal oz near the Gaza border a community left devastated by the october 7th massacres our i-24 news or isha pira has more kibbutz mishmara emek northern israel this has become the new home for the residents of kibbutz nachal oz in the gaza envelope where dozens of people were murdered at around 628 we heard the siren i entered the safe room and closed the door i started to think that this may be a bigger event a day before it we rehearsed for a special event to mark 70 years of nachal oz we heard red alerts one after the other i started to text my friends at around 7 i started to get messages from my friend saying there are terrorists outside our homes i didn't want to believe it in the beginning we thought it was something local only a few terrorists only in nachal oz the power went off in my apartment at around 7 am they told us not to leave the safe room to lock it and to stay quiet at 11 am i was left without a battery and without electricity after a few hours i thought about escaping the safe room at a certain point i understood that the terrorists were getting closer i heard screaming in arabic they got inside my neighbor's home at that point i thought that i could go out and maybe be with my neighbors but something inside me told me not to go out i stayed for 12 more hours retrospectively this is what saved me because if i would have left the room i wouldn't be here today among the hundreds of evacuees are several young people they are members of an organization called this organization was established 12 years ago in order to strengthen communities across Israel we have 1,300 young people in 16 different communities from karyach mono in the north to demono in the south we are in sensors for young people it could be either the young members of the community who decided to stay or the people from other places who move most of the communities of tatser at the arts are in urban areas the one in nachal oz however was unique in 2014 nachal oz had a tremendous disaster they lost a four-year-old child who died from a direct rocket hit following this disaster nachal oz almost lost all of its young residents most of the young families left the kibbutz they had to close the kindergarten because there were no kids left in the kibbutz nachal oz understood that its future is held by the young generation so they turned to tatser at art and asked us to bring new people here and there is a discussion among us because this is not where we usually build our communities but we decided to go for it because we understood the great significance of it members of tatser at art say that even though they were not born in this small community they fitted in perfectly as they took part in the daily routine of the kibbutz we have a couple a girl from tatser at and a member of the kibbutz who met in nachal oz and last week they got engaged i came for two years to the student program and i decided to stay after i finished it after october 7 members of tatser at arts decided to move to ishmara anek with their friends from nachal oz despite the fact that they are not original members of the kibbutz and many of them have families in other places in israel at the end of the day i don't have family kids or property in the kibbutz i only rented an apartment there this is what was so beautiful that the kibbutz took us into consideration when they evacuated we are part of the activities here it is still complicated just like in any other place where young people live i also ask myself if i'm a full member of the community or not but at the end of the day i now feel i'm a part of the community like it or not the name tatser at arts refers to a famous song by one of israel's acclaimed poet natan alterman the song speaks about the lack of unity in the jewish community in the land of israel in 1938 following the great arab revolt the director of tatser at art says that in this case it is quite the opposite we often sing this song it is a familiar song in israel but in tatser at art there is a lot of unity if you'll come to one of our general meetings you will find israeli society in all its colors shapes and forms working together nachal oz is now a closed military zone and access to it is extremely limited however some of the residents including members and veterans of tatser at arts say that they cannot wait to return to this small community adjacent to the gaza border that's all for this edition i'm sivan reviv thank you for watching i'm sivan reviv and these are the latest developments coming to you live from televiv today is day 51 of israel's war with hamas after hours of agonizing delay last night hamas finally released 13 israeli hostages on the second day of its deal with israel including eight children and five five women additionally four ties nap tie nationals were released to israel as well israel received the list of names of the third batch of hostages meant to be released this afternoon the hostages had spent 50 days in hamas captivity after being snatched from their homes during the deadliest massacre in israel's history in which at least 1200 people were brutally tortured and murdered on october 7th one of the conditions which was not met by hamas was not separating children from their mothers among the released hostages overnight was hila rotem who was indeed released without her mother raya other hostages released included yahil and navesh oam and their mother adi their father tal was left behind in captivity nom and alma or were released without their father drul maya reggae was released without her brother itai maya was among the wounded and kidnapped from the nova music festival and is currently treated in an israeli hospital here are some of the latest released images in which nine-year-old emily hand reunites with her father in israel and 13-year-old hila rotem shoshani with her uncle after 50 days in captivity take a look hey joining us from the televives square for the families of hostages is our i-24 news correspondent robert swift robert what are we seeing happening at the square right now did families begin to arrive it's now 11 o'clock here the local time and people are starting to come into the square and so far we've not seen any of the families many of them have been maintaining their privacy during this difficult time but there are plenty of other Israelis who are here as you can see behind me the the square is starting to to fill up now during the the evening hours there tends to be more of a sort of communal or groups people of people coming together to pray and or to sing together right here during the day it seems to be more people coming essentially just to have a look to see what's happening here to feel in touch with what they are seeing in the media to see the to be in touch with the images that they're seeing on their social media now there's lots of art displays here some people are coming taking a look at that and and then moving on and noticeably there's quite a lot of young people here and that's possibly um due to them feeling a connection with the the large number of hostages that were taken who were themselves young particularly those that were kidnapped from the nova music festival thank you very much rob in televive here with us in studio is a mere orange defense and government commentator and also with us is Ariel Oceran our i-24 news middle east correspondent thank you both for joining Ariel we uh saw a video of Emily Hind joining her father after all these days in captivity and we also see that the prime minister of ireland tweeted about the release of this nine-year-old girl um what did he mean in his tweet i don't i don't know what he the irish prime minister meant in his tweet i don't think anyone can really uh understand why he chose uh the words that he chose let's start off with reading what he wrote uh leo varadkar tweeted last night this is a day of enormous joy and relief for emily hand and her family an innocent child who was lost has now been found and returned we breathe a massive sigh of relief our prayers have been answered now describing the kidnapping of uh uh of a young girl taking her taking her to uh holding her for 50 days in underground tunnels to organization after they killed her stepmother it's like saying uh it's like describing the 9-11 terror attacks as a plane that lost its way and found itself in a tower just this this choice of words is so uh i mean for lack of a of a better word disgraceful it really does not give any uh respect to emily who is an irish uh citizen as well and uh given the intense criticism on social media also uh response this morning by ellie coin israel's foreign minister i'll read you his response saying mr prime minister it seems you have lost your moral compass and need a reality check emily hand was not lost she was kidnapped by a terror organization worse worse than isis that murdered her stepmother emily and more than 30 other israeli children were taken hostage by hamas and you leo varadkar are trying to legitimize and normalize terror shame on you this is what israel's foreign minister wrote i am not sure this is the last word we are going to hear by israeli officials regarding this tweet by the irish prime minister amir did you see that tweet yes and um it's fortunate that uh the irish prime minister's prayers have caused the release of this particular hostage according to him it's a safe um the prayers and not the deal between israel and hamas brokered by others managed it and he didn't even mention of course all the others hostages in addition to what ariel pointed out that the circumstances regarding this lost and found as if it's a baggage in a train station this is really uh regrettable the way that he chose his words now earlier we spoke to leo perry whose father haim perry was kidnapped from kibbutz near oz his half brother and the half brother's girlfriend were murdered in that same kibbutz i want you to to look i asked leo what he would say to his father if he could hear him now let's take a listen i wish i could say hold on we're coming but uh it's not on our hands something on our hands it's uh in the name of israel and hamas to negotiate the disputes between them and fry and fry really as hard as possible to act like adults how difficult it may be for for for both sides to to act naturally uh at least the israeli side should not be afraid of all the of all the games that hamas has been playing and they try to keep all of the parliament members quiet and not letting anyone throw anything into the fire to make it just to act maturely that's all that's that's like a basic rule that everybody should follow now and also the media should be a little bit lower the flame okay because uh although it's really uh good to see the the celebration of every release it is not something that we should anticipate or or uh or look we should uh every time a a hostage is coming out we need to say great where's the next one or when is going to be the next one that's or we need to think about and so my father I will tell him hold on we are hopefully coming soon now mireli or is saying when is the next release that's um what all the families of the hostages are looking to know we know that there's a batch that's supposed to be released tonight and then tomorrow but what after that there's so many there are so many more that's very true um rather than do it retail every day another dozen or 13 it should be done wholesale the Israeli government should work for and initiate offer itself if the initiative doesn't come from another corner the trade of another 10 or 12 days of ceasefire for a whole bunch of hostages 130 150 whatever uh the going great will be in this human trade uh uh as despicable as the term can be now up to now we have been uh accustomed to a daily routine which becomes a daily torture will they one day what's going on there what's the the problem is it the Hamas the Red Cross Egypt Israel and and that's uncalled for it can be changed if there is any willingness on the part of both sides and the chief of staff of the Israel defense forces lieutenant general Herzi Alevi um indicated as much uh when he called on his troops uh to prepare for the next phase of the war if fighting is resumed but he also listed the two war aims as first the release of all hostages for which the military is working and the dismantling of Hamas in Gaza he did not mention killing the Hamas leadership the way Netanyahu and Gallant uh did um he did not repeat the uh often um cited claim that Israel's warring is killing Yacha Sidwar and Mohamed Def and one may see their uh a small opening for negotiations for diplomacy and only should they fail will the fighting resume now we're seeing uh Hamas playing games with Israel last night's delay seems to have been you know a dramatic uh psychological play on Israel we shouldn't look at the uh uh tiny minute details of what is happening every day it's a bigger picture Hamas is trying to position itself it's posturing branding whatever you want to call it um they want to be seen as an equal partner to Israel and then it wants to be seen as being reliable so that if they create an artificial crisis they are going to solve it have no fear Hamas will come through so yes it's a game but it's not necessarily the game of a truck not being able to cross from South Gaza to the north or the prisoners released from Israeli prisons it's the image they want to project thank you Amir now joining us now in Shiba medical center where most of the hostages are currently being treated is our i-24 news senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Alterman Owen how many hostages were taken in at Shiba and what do we know about their condition now eight children four women the vast majority the 12 of the 13 Israeli hostages taken here to Shiba medical center their condition is reported to be good of course they got here in the middle of the night last night because of the delays about which you were just speaking with Amir Oran as for their condition we learned a lot about it just a few hours ago when the director of the children's hospital here at Shiba spoke to the media let's hear a little bit about what he had to say they underwent an initial medical evaluation and examination i'm happy to tell you that though days in captivity have left their mark on them none of them is in need of urgent and immediate medical intervention they will stay here at the hospital for as long as they need we'll continue to treat them to accompany them to hug them and support them both physically and emotionally on a personal note this at the children's hospital is a place where we experience unnerving emotional significant events on a daily basis but the intensity of the emotions and of the sense of dedication that myself and i'm sure all staff members felt tonight was one of the most significant and emotional moments of my whole life and career now oh and one of the hostages who was released 21-year-old Maya Regev she was shot and wounded what do we know about what happened to her and what's her condition now yes she was shot wounded on october 7th itself at the nova music festival she was taken by helicopter sorot to soroka medical center in berceva why closer to the gaza strip she needed more immediate medical attention given that gunshot wound the the soroka hospital earlier on this morning said that she will be undergoing surgery over the course of today her condition is moderate but she's expected to make a full recovery sivan that's obviously good news as for the wider picture of these hostages almost all of them if not all of them from kibbutz baeri of course one of the sites of the most severe massacres on october 7th and so of course that community reunited with at least some of the 50 hostages taken from kibbutz baeri on october 7th of course 100 members of that kibbutz one of the largest if not the largest of the gaza border communities 100 members of kibbutz baeri murdered on october 7th itself so some small amount of solace for that kibbutz as it welcomes some of its children and some of its women home we should say also sivan there is of course the case of hila rotem who's who was separated from her mother right hila rotem 13 years old freed but her mother still reportedly in captivity in the gaza strip but in many many other cases the children and mothers were released but the fathers are still held captive in the gaza strip of course men not part or grown men not part of this round of prisoner releases over the course of this four day pause at any rate israelis obviously very happy with the pictures of those who have been freed and certainly hoping to bring the rest of them home sivan thank you owen alterman achievable medical center back in studio here i'm with amir oran and ariel osaran now we're taught we're speaking to owen and he's talking to us about these hostages about them coming home and there was a price 39 palestinian prisoners in this batch last night's batch and today there will be more in the in the third batch and of course tomorrow are we expecting to see more of this is it will the ceasefire be extended will this will they try to get more prisoners out the quota has already been set for 300 palestinian prisoners and internees various offenses minors and women only and out of those 300 only 39 plus the same number the day before have been released already so it is probably going to last for several more days and then the israeli government will have to decide whether to release more but not minors and women this has probably run out this particular stock so to say but what we saw right now in owen's report is how resilient the israeli children have been in captivity and obviously people here who were all hoping for their return had no idea what is happening there and it's very conflicting to sure and to see that even though we don't know what happened exactly medically internally they look in in good shape they survived they were resilient they found ways to endure and prevail I interviewed another guest in a in a previous broadcast who said that Hamas divided the israelis into those to be murdered those to be kidnapped those to be raped those who were kidnapped were you know they made sure that they remain alive in order for these kind of trade-offs once they were in Gaza sometimes it was arbitrary a particular person decided to shoot or to spare but once they were under higher authority the custody of those directly under the Hamas leadership obviously they wanted to keep them alive and well so that they could bring them back in return for something this something is not necessarily the prisoners in israeli jails it's the ceasefire now I want you both to take a look at israeli defense minister you have gallant who said yesterday that any success in releasing the hostages is due to the military pressure which has been applied against Hamas thus far let's take a listen our ability to bring the first group of abductees is due to the pressure exerted by our military as soon as there is a military pressure they want a break when you increase the pressure they want another break when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer and when you increase even more they are ready to come with an offer that can be accepted that's the whole method we cannot leave the operation and the war in Gaza until we reach a situation where we bring all the abductees because we have many more there is a direct connection between the idea of action and the elimination of the enemy and also between the idea of actions and bringing the hostages home this is the process the timetable for truth is short it won't take weeks it will take days a little more a little less any further negotiations will be done in the midst of the war that is if they want to continue discussing the next time it will be when the bombs fall and the forces are fighting that's the basis the Israeli government is proud of our soldiers the entire nation of Israel is behind you you should know this and continue to have the strength you're putting your lives at risk but you're bringing results and we greatly appreciate what you're doing now we're here in gallant here talk about military pressure how does Israel go back to such military pressure and an offensive after all these days of pause well both gallant and the military chief Halevi made this claim and there is no evidence to show that they are right that there is a direct connection a correlation between what happened in northern Gaza over the preceding three weeks and the hostage release it's even illogical to assume that this was what happened because the very reason for Hamas kidnapping those people even though they had no idea they will get so many was to trade them for something they knew that the Israeli military is coming after them so this in itself did not bring about the release we still have ahead of us if the fighting resumes and the Israeli military moves south to Hanunas where they are probably hiding we still have to see whether the Hamas leadership will try to trade the soldiers captured up to now we have only seen civilians for immunity for themselves and this will probably be not Israel's decision to make but President Biden's and Egypt Qatar and the other brokers the mediators now Ariel do you foresee that the Israel will go back to a military offense after this negotiating negotiating these release deals yeah look this period is agreed upon for four days with the option to be extended for an additional five days so we're talking about at least four days no more than nine days but before this Israeli officials military officials leaders all saying Israel is going to return to the ground operation with full force prior to the ceasefire is the idea of also dropped leaflets in southern Gaza warning the residents of the eastern neighborhoods of Hanunas to make their way west to Al Mawasi the designated humanitarian area I don't think there is much of a question mark over that option but what is what does remain to be seen how long this will the ceasefire be extended if at all but the Defense Minister Austin called Joav Galant last night and set so many conditions like the conflicting with international organizations and not impairing aid missions that it will be nearly impossible to resume the fighting under those conditions fighting in the south is going to be very different much more complicated than what happened up in the north but my understanding is that the plan is that this will continue after the ceasefire thank you both for this important input an Israeli organization is working to strengthen young communities in the country with an initiative called so a tutser et al-aritz or made in Israel one of the communities involved is nachal oz near the Gaza border a community left devastated by the october 7th massacres our i-24 news uri shapira has more kibbutz mishmara emek norton Israel this has become the new home for the residents of kibbutz nachal oz in the Gaza envelope where dozens of people were murdered at around 628 we heard the siren i entered the safe room and closed the door i started to think that this may be a bigger event a day before it we rehearsed for a special event to mark 70 years of nachal oz we heard red alerts one after the other i started to text my friends at around 7 i started to get messages from my friend saying there are terrorists outside our homes i didn't want to believe it in the beginning we thought it was something local only a few terrorists only in nachal oz the power went off in my apartment at around 7 am they told us not to leave the safe room to lock it and to stay quiet at 11 am i was left without a battery and without electricity after a few hours i thought about escaping the safe room at a certain point i understood that the terrorists were getting closer i heard screaming in arabic they got inside my neighbor's home at that point i thought that i could go out and maybe be with my neighbors but something inside me told me not to go out i stayed for 12 more hours retrospectively this is what saved me because if i would have left the room i wouldn't be here today among the hundreds of evacuees are several young people they are members of an organization called this organization was established 12 years ago in order to strengthen communities across Israel we have 1,300 young people in 16 different communities from karyach mono in the north to demono in the south we are in sensors for young people it could be either the young members of the community who decided to stay or the people from other places who move most of the communities of tatserataharets are in urban areas the one in nachal oz however was unique in 2014 nachal oz had a tremendous disaster they lost a four-year-old child who died from a direct rocket hit following this disaster nachal oz almost lost all of its young residents most of the young families left the kibbutz they had to close the kindergarten because there were no kids left in the kibbutz nachal oz understood that its future is held by the young generation so they turned to tatserataharets and asked us to bring new people here and there is a discussion among us because this is not where we usually build our communities but we decided to go for it because we understood the great significance of it members of tatserataharets say that even though they were not born in this small community they fitted in perfectly as they took part in the daily routine of the kibbutz we have a couple a girl from tatserat and a member of the kibbutz who met in nachal oz and last week they got engaged i came for two years to the student program and i decided to stay after i finished it after october 7 members of tatserataharets decided to move to with their friends from nachal oz despite the fact that they are not original members of the kibbutz and many of them have families in other places in israel at the end of the day i don't have family kids or property in the kibbutz i only rented an apartment there this is what was so beautiful that the kibbutz took us into consideration when they evacuated we are part of the activities here it is still complicated just like in any other place where young people live i also ask myself if i'm a full member of the community or not but at the end of the day i now feel i'm a part of the community like it or not the name tatserataharets refers to a famous song by one of israel's acclaimed poet natan alterman the son speaks about the lack of unity in the jewish community in the land of israel in 1938 following the great arab revolt the director of tatserataharets says that in this case it is quite the opposite we often sing this song it is a familiar song in israel but in tatserataharets there is a lot of unity if you'll come to one of our general meetings you will find israeli society in all its colors shapes and forms working together