 Welcome to a Wild Wednesday with Wab, Gronkowski, why Wab? Because we adore alliteration around here. We also adore a Sack King. That's right, all pro cam. Jordan hangs out ahead of Wild Card Weekend and I wore my very best waterproof mascara today for our visit with the hilarious Paul Bursey. He's in studio. He's on tour now. He has a new Netflix special, but same old giant super fan. Okay, let's hit it. I have coffee this morning from Starbucks. That means it's gonna be insane. Let's go. So it just caught me off, caught me a coffee this morning. So I don't know if I have an apology for something coming later. Are we in a fight? Did something happen? Does he have bad news to deliver me? I feel like I get coffees when there's that sort of thing going on. I thought it was Thursday fully. When I sat down today, I said happy Thursday, everybody. Nope, nope it's not, but I might not know what day it is. I do in fact know what season it is, people. It is Samuel L. Jackson. Hold on to your butt season in the NFL. Wild Card Weekend is upon us. I like to call it Six Flags NFL. The ups, the downs, the loops, the swirls, the bumpy rides for some. And if anyone ever rode the American Eagle at Six Flags, Great America in Illinois, you know what I'm talking about. Holy migraine. Any wooden roller coaster could be what it's like for some of these NFL teams in the playoffs. And send the Acida Menefin and the Barf Bag down to Baltimore. Get it, Barf Bag, Baltimore? Alliteration. Distressing news though to be serious here. For Ravens fan this morning, man. NFL Network's Ian Rappaport and Garifolo are reporting that Lamar Jackson faces an uphill battle to play this weekend against the Bengals. This sucks, this totally sucks. Garifolo, he adds that Lamar has tried to do some work on his injured knee but hasn't felt right to this point. He's yet to practice at all. Getting, at all since getting hurt as the Ravens begin practice work for the Bengals today. I'm shocked by this. We thought he'd be back and it really is surprising and I hate this for him. He's missed the final five games for the regular season. It would be awful. Like a nightmare scenario. If he misses what could be his last chance to get out there and make a statement on the field before dealing with looming and potentially dooming contract negotiations. And it would also be clearly a downgrade in the shot to the Ravens chances this weekend in their third matchup against this Bengals squad. Back up Tyler Huntley missed last week of course with the shoulder. So if Lamar can't go, is it Anthony Brown again? This is tough news and we'll of course be tracking it but barring a perfect defensive performance from this Ravens squad. They need to put up what 25 points and I'm not sure if that's Huntley or if that's Brown. So we're gonna be following that story and getting you guys set with the playoff picture. Very curious about Gronk's thoughts, very curious about what Cam Jordan thinks and we'll of course hit the Giants in the Vikings battle as well. So we're gonna turn our attention to wildcard weekend here on this Wednesday. And we're gonna turn the page from the 2022 regular season and start looking ahead to the playoffs. And I always do under reactions on Wednesday. So it should have been my first sign that that was the day of the week but I'm going to do it wildcard style and we're going to focus on the NFC today, AFC tomorrow. So lots of focus on Brock Purdy's incredible run. Their number one defense, lots has made of that. And I think it's made us collectively you and me underreact to how big of an impact Christian McCaffrey's actually had on the San Francisco 49ers. I think we take it a little for granted and we're not giving it its credit. So if you just look at what CMC has done since taking over the starting rope of the Niners back in week eight. I mean, are you kidding me? The Niners have gone a perfect 10-0 and he's averaged over 100 total yards per game, scored 10 total touchdowns, which tie with Jamal Williams for the league lead by the way over that span who got plenty of love for it against the Lions as they bounced the Packers on Sunday night and he's caught 50 balls. This is the ultimate security blanket for Brock Purdy. So we gave George Kittle his love, we've given Brock his love, we've given Shanahan his love, we've given Bosa his love, we've given the number one defense a love, but you know, don't forget the Niners were three and four before integrating him fully into this offense that they have up there. I mean, this is probably the most impactful mid-season addition that we've seen in the history of the league. Challenge me on that. Most impactful mid-season addition in the history of the league. Who am I missing? Bueller? Bueller, let me know, add up an Adam show. And I'm excited to see this first playoff appearance. He of course had one I could hardly remember it. It was his rookie year back with the Panthers. This is five years in the making and he's healthy and he's gonna be the key in this game against the Seahawks. The Niners of course beat the Seahawks when they did it a couple of weeks ago. He racked up 32 touches. He looks so healthy, he looks so good. 138 yards and a touchdown. You know this offense is going to run through him against the Seahawks. They have the 30th ranked run defense. And I'd have to imagine that he's gonna keep that success rolling this week. Another thing we're underreacting to, let's move on here to the Giants. Kenny Gholiday, why is this not getting enough love? I saw this and I was like, am I the ghastly cap in? Did I, are there fumes in my head? Is this really happening here? Gholiday scored a touchdown Sunday against the Eagles on Darius Slay. What? And I think we're underreacting not only to that, but to also the Giants receivers and how they're playing of late. Oh, what? This acrobatic grab in the fourth quarter marked his first touchdown in almost three years. I saw that and was like, okay, what are we working with here? Going into the playoffs. And maybe this gets him going just in time. A little spark, a little momentum, a little something. Either way, so much was made about how terrible this Giants receiving core is. Like, do they even have a receiving core? We need Odell Beckham Jr. Get Brandon Marshall's coming on saying, get him to the Giants. They need him. Daniel Jones needs him. But these guys have been making plays lately and there's going to be room for them to make a big impact against the Vikings. Want to know why? Cause as good as we think the Vikings are and I know they got magic in these one possession situations, you know, they're a roller coaster and it always goes their way and they land safely and everybody's okay. They have the 31st ranked pass defense in the playoffs. Isn't that insane? 31st and just as they did in week 16, okay. Former nine or seventh rounder, Richie James had eight catches for 90 yards in that first matchup. Hodgins, hello, Isaiah Hodgins. Welcome to the conversation here. He's the Giants guy that they signed mid season. He was cut, of course, by the Buffalo Bills. He had eight grabs for 89 yards in a touchdown. Darian Slayton chipped in. He had 79 yards of his own. It took two turnovers. It took a blocked punt. It took a 61 yard field goal for the Vikings to overcome that effort and get the win in that one. So I think under reacted to is that this group of playmakers sort of misfits. What are we making of them? They're gonna have a big say in this rematch unless the Vikings magically change something with their pasty overnight and they're peaking at the right time. So that's definitely something I'm looking at. Okay, let's move on to NFC. What's the last one? Oh, Bucks Cowboys. I know the Buccaneers offense has been struggle city. Okay, sure. And I know that their run game ranks dead last in the NFL. And those are things that we know. I think we're under reacting to the fact that playoff Lenny, remember that nickname? Playoff Lenny, are you here? Are you with us? Do you exist in eight career playoff games? Let's remember here. This isn't just with the Bucks and Tom Brady. With the Jags too. Fornette's gone six and two. He's averaged 105.1 total yards a game and he scored 10 touchdowns. So he's one of the truly great postseason performers this league has ever seen. Think about that. Until McCaffrey comes in, you know, crushes him, went to Super Bowl, but that's near the here and over there. Leonard Fornette was the driving force on this Bucks offense. This is what brought Brady that seventh ring. If you really think about it, when they started clicking, what started clicking, why he got a nickname, you don't get a playoff nickname for nothing. And while I know Tampa's offensive line is not the same as it was, especially not back then in these numbers that I'm talking about, at least with this time at the Bucks and years, we can't underestimate what Lenny could do, especially in this matchup. This defense with the Cowboys, they got some playmakers, they can do some things, but they are bottom 10 against the run. He went off for 137 yards in Tampa's week one win over Dallas. I know it's been a long time, but what if he can have another big day? And what if he's the reason that they don't and they get bounced? So Lenny's gonna play huge in this matchup on wild card weekend. Okay, I want you to send me guys, if there's a mid-season edition on any team that made a huge impact, a la a McCaffrey that I'm missing. I also want you to send me and tweet me the roller coaster that you hated the most as a child. Like anything I did at Sixth Legs, Green America, The Demon, Batman, no, not interested at all. Viper was one when I was there. If the American Eagle is still in service at Sixth Legs, Green America, we have failed as a society in my opinion. Tweet me, let me know. And I appreciated so much everybody sending me the venture, the venture ideas. And so it was the OG target. And I really felt the scene in that moment. So love you guys. We got Crock, we got Cam Jordan on the show. Paul Verzi, super hilarious comedian, do not go anywhere. The Old World tight end, the six foot seven free. You call me to go wrong. He's retired? Unretired? Keeping the door open? We don't even care. He's a Fandall family member for now. At least a four time Super Bowl champion could ever take that away from him. And the best tight end of all time I said it. Rob Gronkowski, how are you? Whoa. Let's go, baby. Company man. The door is closed. I am now a Fandall. Company man, you are in the team gear. Wow, those executives love you a lot more than me. I'll tell you that even just for that. Listen, we have so much to talk about. Last time you were on the show, first of all, you were very excited about your segment on Fox on Sunday. And then after it aired and you did a great job, I was watching your girlfriend's Instagram story. And so were our producers. And we just need to get over it. We need to discuss this. This is what Camille Acosta posted. Take a look. And then I watched it and I said, oh, you were Bob Ross. And he said, there's only a day who is that. Oh, I'm Rob Gronkowski and welcome to... He's a legend. The late Bob Ross, you didn't know who he was. I don't understand. Yes. No, I didn't really know who he was. When I showed up there, like you're going to do the Bob Ross painting and actually Fox, they sent me a couple of his YouTube videos in my email. And then of course I didn't watch the videos at all because I was a very busy man, just working very hard for example. Doing all my commercials for him and all that good stuff. So I finally get to the studio and then I watched while I'm on the chair and they're putting the hair on and the beard and everything. Then I watched a video of Bob Ross and I had to try to get his voice down. It was like very sophisticated voice, very mellow but kind of touchy. So I felt like I got it down and the segment came out very, very, very well. You killed it and now you're kicking. So well, let's just dig into it. It's the kick of destiny. You're kicking a field goal, my friend. Live, during the Super Bowl somehow with $10 million in fan-duel free bets on the line. Now I flagged this like a month ago because TMZ caught you practicing kicks and I'm like, what's going on here? So when you're training right now and I'm sure you're training hard because that's just how you're wired, what would you say your make percentages? All right, so my make percentage. First off, I'm kind of a toe kicker. I actually made a field goal when I was in high school. I made a 33 yard field goal in high school and it was with the toe. And I was actually the kick, I was the guy that kicked off at my high school as well but I always use my toe. And when I did pump, pass and kick when I was growing up as a kid, I used my toe. But I don't want to use my toe. I want to learn the correct way. I feel like when you do it the soccer style, when you use side of your foot, your accuracy percentage just goes way up, you know? And I'm going to actually start practicing. Vinitari taught me some tips when I was with him shooting the training montage video with coming out soon next week. It's very, very cool. He taught me some tips but my percentage sideways is probably about like 20% right now, but I got a big practice day tomorrow and I got another big practice day over the weekend. And I'm going to solidify that percentage up to like 75% by end of this week. Gronk, you're such a liability because I don't think you're supposed to say that you have a training montage with Adam Vinitari coming out and you just... Well, you know, then don't, you got to stop putting your vibe on there, you know? You got to just stop doing that stuff. I'm dying. Gronk, like two weeks ago, I'm like, what have you been up to? And you're like, I'm shooting this thing and I'm like, no, no, don't say it. Don't say it, Gronk. You don't really know what it is though. You don't really know what it is. So it's all right. It's just like a little clue. It's just a clue. That's exactly right. Well, we're wishing you luck in your training and I'm glad to hear that you're taking it so seriously. I'm not surprised about that at all. Let's talk about wild card weekend. You didn't play on many, man. Look, you had it so easy. You're nine seasons with the Patriots. You went to the playoffs eight times and you never played in a wild card game. And then, of course, you went on a Super Bowl and you did it with Tampa Bay. Did you feel like you appreciated having those buys when you were in New England, when you saw that you had to play it later in your career? Oh, yes, definitely. I appreciated those bi-weeks every single time and it's just a crazy stat. I'm pretty sure when I was with New England, the nine years I was there, I think it was nine out of nine years we went to the playoffs and we had a bi-week all nine times from what I remember. Or was it my ninth time that we played on wild card? I'm not 100% sure, but at least no, eight out of the nine times ahead of bi-week going into the playoffs. That's just mind-blowing. That's out of control stat. I mean, it just helps out tremendously as well. You get the rest, you get the recover. I mean, you know the playbook inside and out. You also get to study your opponent that you're gonna be playing that week. You're gonna watch all the playoff games. It's definitely a big advantage, sitting at home, healing up your body and also watching all the games play out. And you get to study your opponent, see what they're up to, see how they're playing in the playoffs. Are they bringing the juice? Are they switching up their schemes? You get to just study them throughout that whole week and it's just a big, big advantage, no doubt. Yeah, and this weekend your former bucks are taking on the count. And I actually don't think you ever played a wild card game in New England, I don't think, which is insane. I don't think you ever did. No, I don't think I've ever did. It is insane. And my first wild card playoff game was actually with the Buccaneers. Yes, when we went up to, I think it was Washington when we played them two years ago and they were actually a seven and nine team and they got in, what a flip in that conference. The commanders got in at seven and nine and now they almost had three, no, they got three playoff teams now that division in the playoffs from two years ago when Washington was in at seven and nine. That's a pretty big flip. I think that was the debut of Taylor Heineke in that wild card weekend game, which is wild and everything you're saying is. So this game this weekend, Bucs Cowboys, that's the team you played on wild card weekend with that went out and won a Super Bowl with. And to me, before you came on, I was talking about playoff Lenny. Like this could live and die on playoff Lenny. You played against him, I remember this, back in 2017, when he was a Jag, you played with him obviously on that Super Bowl run. Can we count the offensive line? I know not the same, but what is it about Leonard Fornette that makes him turn into this monster can playoff time and can he do it right now despite the adversity? Yes, playoff Lenny just always steps it up when it comes to crunch time. He definitely led us through the playoffs the last two years with the Buccameers. And I don't think it's going to change this year. I think he's going to step it up once again when it really counts. Playoff Lenny just comes through in the clutch. Yes, the offensive line is a little decimated, but I think they're going to figure it out. No doubt. And it's not just in the run game that playoff Lenny is going to come through. He's going to come through in the pass game. When Tom needs to check down, he's going to check it down the Lenny and he's going to make the first guy miss and pick up 12 yards, get that first down, keep the chains moving. So he's definitely, I would say, it's going to be the most crucial player on the offensive side of the ball for the Buccameers this week going versus Cowboys. You have so much playoff experience. Let's get some thoughts about this slate here. Wild Car Week, it's super fun. We don't know if Lamar Jackson's going to be playing. That's the news this morning, but I wanted to get some thoughts here. Listen, we all love an underdog story. Grant, who do you think could be the upset special of the weekend? Seahawks, Ravens, maybe? We got... No, definitely not the Seahawks. The 49ers, their defense is just too stout. Like both are coming off the edge, putting way too much pressure on the quarterbacks. Baltimore, no chance. Cincinnati just absolutely tormented them last week. They're going to do it again this week. No problem. Joe Burrow has that in the book, but I'm going to go with the New York Giants. They're going to upset the ass. The Minnesota Vikings, they're going to come out. They're going to play hard. Minnesota is a team that you don't know what you're going to get. You can get a team that was posed for the number one seed, or you can get a team that looked like that wasn't a playoff team at all. But the Giants, they come prepared every week to bring their best, and they're going to bring their best. And Minnesota's not, so the Giants are going to have the upset this week. Going up against the 30th ranked pass defense for the Vikings, so that could happen. Those receivers are looking better. All right, let's keep that slate up and ask you some more of these, like rapid-fire sort of questions, looking at the slate. Tight ends in this one. It's an interesting round. It's been a weird year for tight ends. We miss you out there, but look it. You got Kittle in this one, Mark Andrews, Dawson Knox, T.J. Hawkins and Evan Anger, Mahayden Hurts, you got Dalton Schultz. Who will have the biggest performance as the tight end position this week? All right, it's definitely going to be George Kittle. And if you look at it, the past four weeks, he's about, I think he's put up seven touchdowns in the past four weeks. That's pretty insane for some tight end numbers right there. And the thing is though, I feel like he's putting up those numbers because Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant, who is actually very relevant now, needs a safety blanket. You couldn't have a better safety blanket in the league than George Kittle. And that's why George Kittle is producing so much right now is because he Brock needs him and he's going to find him. And George is going to have another monster game coming up for Seattle. Who will have the wildest performance of the weekend? Meaning like an X factor, something that you know is going to happen in this game that we might not know because we don't play the game and we're not drunk. All right, I mean, yes, it's just going to be Joe Burrow again. I mean, he's going to decimate the Baltimore Ravens defense. The Baltimore Ravens, they can sign whoever they want for $100 billion. It's not going to stop Joe Burrow. You know, I think they just signed that linebacker. It doesn't matter. You can keep them there long-term. Joe Burrow is going to decimate your secondary. He did it last week. He's going to do it again this week coming up and it's going to be back to back wins and Baltimore is going to go home disappointed that Joe Burrow is going to lead them, you know, to another deep playoff run. And we're hearing this morning that Lamar Jackson has a quote unquote uphill battle. It's sad to see he's got that contract negotiation looming and we want him out there, of course, to sort of show what he can do ahead of that but it's looking like he might not play this weekend. Okay, now you were talking about George Kittle and all those touchdowns and it sounds like he's having fun out there with Brock Purdy. So I'm going to take just the Buccaneers off of that board. I want you to put yourself on the field. Which game, which side would you like to suit up and catch passes for this weekend if you could in a dream world? Oh, all right. In a dream world. I mean, I'll go with my hometown team, the Buffalo Bales once again. If you just watch Josh Allen go out there and play, he just plays the game freely. It also looks like he's having the most fun out there out of any QB in the whole NFL. And on top of it, he knows how to extend a play. I love watching the quarterback. That looks like they're about to get sacked by three defense alignment and then somehow escapes the pocket and runs around, jukes a linebacker behind the field and then just whips the ball down the field 50 yards for a touchdown. So just his play is unbelievable. He's electrifying and also I'm from Buffalo. So I know the stadium at Highmark Stadium in Buffalo is going to be just as electrifying as well. I love it. I love that you gave Joe Burrow some love. I don't see it like you do. So I'd love you to explain to me. I hear this a lot that Burrow, who you've had a lot of praise for just now, is very Brady-ish, whether it's in coolness, being in control, the way he plays, the style, all of that, and we've heard those comparisons. Do you see comparisons and what are they? Yeah, so I 100% see the comparison. I actually thought about that comparison when I watched them. My first time I've ever heard about Joe Burrow was actually when I watched a national championship game when he won it with LSU and I was just sitting there watching the game and I was like, this guy literally reminds me of Tom Brady to the tee. Just his presence in the pocket, just how calm and still he is. And just the way he's able to just read the field, read what the defense is doing. I mean, it doesn't matter if you have the best arm in the NFL. It doesn't matter if you're strongest quarterback in the NFL. If you can read a defense, if you can place the ball where the defenders aren't, that's what makes you a top quality, great QB in the NFL and Joe Burrow has that just like Tom Brady. It's high praise and they face each other this year and a lot was made of that so they never faced each other before so we'll see how it goes here on Wild Card Weekend. A question about your kicking from one of our producers who texted me. Has he thought about going barefoot old school Jeff Wilkins style? No, no, no. I am not going barefoot. First off, I'm a toe guy and I'm trying to switch it to be a side of my foot. And if I was a toe guy and I went barefoot I would have no toes left. My toenails would be bleeding everywhere. My big toe would be black and blue and swollen. So definitely not going barefoot. But on the other hand, once I learn this soccer style which is very tough when you've never done it before but I'm gonna try and get it down. The soccer style field go kicking. If I get it down then possibly I could go barefoot but I'm not gonna risk that chance. I need that shoe on my foot to give me the most power. And what is the best tip that Vinntary gave you so far? Oh, the best tip. He told me to kick it with my toe because he said that I don't think there's any way that you can fix the way that I'm kicking sideways. He was, yeah, that's how bad it was at one point that he thought I was unfixable to really do soccer style kicking. So the best tip, he goes, Rob, it's just one kick. Just do it with your toe, man. Just do it with your toe. Is he talking to you about pressure at all? Like it's kind of a different kind of pressure. Is it the same as any play that you've ever made in the playoff game? You know, there is a lot of pressure but I'm not really worried about it yet because it is a month and a half or no, about a month away, a little bit more than a month. I mean, I'm sure when it starts getting, you know, the final countdown a couple of days before, I mean, I'm not trying to sit here a month ahead of time and biting my nails and not be able to sleep. I mean, we're a month away. I know there's going to be pressure for sure when I, you know, step up to the plate. I'll probably be a little shaky but that's why I also want to do this practice because I want to make sure I'm ready to go and I want to hit this kick for America because I'm for America and I'm going to do it for America. 10 million dollars in free vets, let's go. It is, I'm curious and we'll let you go here. We have a guest coming on after this, Cam Jordan, all pro, of course, for the New Orleans Saints. Do you think that Rob Warnkowski can hit a field goal during the Super Bowl, Cam Jordan? Yes, do we have him, Cam? No. For 10 million dollars in free vets, go. Yeah, absolutely. Not only do I think, you know, Gronk is a packed thinner so I got nothing but pride in my guy. You know, I think that if anybody can do it, Gronk can. I mean, I've seen him in WWE. I've seen him, you know, grab big touchdowns in the NFL. What's the kick? I believe in my dog. Thank you, Cam. I appreciate it, man. You're an animal, man. Still going, still a beast off the edge. That was a brutal lineup, man. Putting my hand down the block as a titan. That's the worst nightmare. You have Cam Jordan and you got David Port on the other side who's about 290 pounds. You guys are two absolute monsters. I'm putting my hand down versus you guys. I'm like, hopefully it's just a pass play every time but you guys are two beasts, man. You've had a great career as well, Cam. Hey, I appreciate it, Brozki. I appreciate it. That's made you love it. No problem, man. I appreciate the love for getting off and the confidence in my field goal kicking as well. Come on, man. Go ahead and knock that thing out. Look, I tuned in and you were talking about feet and I was like, yo, I tuned in at the wrong second. I'm glad we're talking about field goals. Yeah, it's about field goals. It's not the Rex Ryan style feet. Oh God, I got to interject here. Okay, amazing. We'll see you too and Canton at the Hall of Fame. At some point, go work on your kick and gong. We appreciate you and we will be back with Saints All-Pro Defensive and Cam Jordan. We will not talk about feet. We'll talk about go jackets and sacks and more. Don't go anywhere. I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up, I get up. Nobody plays hard to get like our next guest. We've been chasing him and chasing him. Come on the show, come on the show. And finally, we have landed the sack leader. The co-host of the Trust Levels podcast with our boy Mark Ingram. And he holds the franchise record. The franchise record, think about that for sacks in New Orleans, a seven time pro bowler, first team all-pro defensive end for the Saints and Cam Jordan. Oh, just let me out here. Levels on, levels on, levels on. How are you? I appreciate you for having me on. Like finally, you said you were like looking for me. I was just like, I'm just waiting for the call. I must not be, you gotta be able to ball to get the call. And I was just waiting on my time. Oh, shout out to Deon Sanders, we love it. Why are you at the facility? What happens now? Why are you there? Actually, I was coming in to work out. So I'm really, I'm really sneaking in and was like, hey, you know what? It's time for me to tune in. Cause I can tell that's where, that's where Mark joins us from. So I know where you are. So sorry, Dennis, but look at that. You're getting your work in, which is insane. You don't really have to be doing that because you had such a good season. I know it wasn't the season your team wanted, but you were the Saints all-time Sack Leader. What does that feel like? It feels regular, you know? The former Sack Leader, Ricky Jackson, he had a phenomenal career, hall of fame career. He had 115 sacks within the black and gold. And so really I'm just sitting at 115 and a half. I don't know if that half gives me enough leeway to be satisfied. So, you know, I won a Super Bowl and we're already out of the playoffs the second year in a row. So as much as you could say it was a good season, a good season is not gonna cut it. You gotta be great. I need a phenomenal season. I need a Super Bowl. I don't know what it's gonna take. I haven't gotten there yet and it's, I'm not saying it's irksome, but it's irksome. Yeah, I've heard you talk about it year, literally every time, about this time of year, usually you're in the playoffs, we discuss this, what I wanna ring. You want it so bad, that's why you're at the facility working out right now. But you're a little too humble for me this morning and you're a little too, so I'm glad that we have friends like Mark Ingram to pick you up. I was laughing out loud last night reading his quote to eat to your sacks. Real life goat, my blood brother, Mr. Levels, Mr. Sack King, Dr. Fumanchulorian in the flesh, what? I'm a self-proclaimed Fumanchulorian this season, you know? I don't know anybody who had my real Fumanchulian, it got some real length on this. It does. You know what I'm saying? It's disgusting and I'm so glad that I stuck with it throughout the whole season and I will be cutting this somewhere soon. I'm probably gonna give my daughter the clippers and like do what you will, you know? Really? How old is she now? My oldest daughter is six, but my four year old grabbed my mustache the other day and was like, daddy, can I cut this? And I was like, yeah, yes you can. Cam, I can't believe she's your oldest to six. Yeah, I mean, the oldest boy I got is seven. Oh my God. I've got kids on kids on kids. That's why I gotta get sacks on sacks on sacks. That's true, and you do, you have a lot and we're gonna get to that, but one thing that's a nice thing about you not having to play a game this weekend is that you can comment freely on things like this. I've not talked about this yet on the show. This, seeing this as a defensive player, what happened with the Chiefs? Do we have the footage? I hope we do. This merry go round, ring around the rosy thing. What are you thinking when you see this happen? At that point, I'm teeing off on somebody because I just probably like, I'm thinking this disrespectful. I'm like, bro, you got enough time to be up on us by a couple touchdowns to do this? Nah, I'm not hitting you hard enough. Like I'm smacking somebody. I might just catch a fine for it. Like I've gotta go out my way to make somebody feel me. Like they're just having too much fun. Nah, like these hands would have to be put on somebody. And I probably like, it'd probably be the lineman. It might be somebody, it might be somebody after the play. I might go off as a lion and try and be a tough guy after the play too. Who is it? What's your offensive line when you're putting your hands out on that line? It doesn't matter to them. Like, you know, I don't know their names, offensive lineman are just like, keep picking the way. I'm trying to take a shot at my guy, Travis Kelsey. Just be like, because I know he's having too much fun. You just like leave, walk up in suplexing just because like I could just see you doing it. You did it to Derwin James. I'll do it to you. I could just see you doing that. Just like, I know, like, I know he's got too much of a smile on his face. They're like winning. You know, they're clearly having too much fun. They're doing a ring around the rosy. You got Pat Mahon's doing no look passes. Like, no, everybody's too happy to evolve. Somebody's gotta get these hands. I love it. All right, let's talk about JJ Watt and these sacks of yours too and how it sort of relates. And, you know, he's getting the first ballot Hall of Famer treatment deservedly so. But you have more sacks than he does, my friend. You have 115.5. Oh my God, what a nightmare you are. He has 114.5. So what does it say about you and your thoughts as you of course look for a gold jacket? It doesn't tell me anything. It means that JJ Watt, Justin James is a part of the draft class 2011 and one of those superheroes that, you know, little kids dream about being. You love to see the type of career that he had in terms of the three defensive player of the years. The two times he had 20 plus sacks. And it's unfortunate that within his career he was hurt for numerous games. You can't take anything away from what he's done with the game. I mean, at one point he was probably the most transcendent type penetrator in terms of deliming. Cause just to label him as an edge rusher or defensive end isn't doing him justice. He was able to move around and create the most havoc when he was probably in that, in that big at three technique to five technique situation. Me, I'm just, you know, I'm just glad that God gives me breath to breathe and it has been given me the opportunity to play all 12 years. And I've only missed two games in his career. One to COVID and one cause my team told me I couldn't play and I was like, but I can play. So, you know, whatever it is, I just want to play more. And that matters. And he's walking away from his career. You guys were in the same draft class right back in 2011. And I'm looking at, I was looking at the guys that you've sacked today cause I think at 115.5 is like insane. It's so crazy to me. Is there anybody on the, that's not on the list that you still need to get to? Yeah, I never got to sack Peyton Manning. So I feel like in my mind, I just like- You're not looking to sack him at the like radio row at the Super Bowl. What do you mean? I don't know. I haven't decided yet, but before my life is over, I'm probably going to have to pop him one time. It may not be registered. It may not be what, but I feel like I deserve to hit him. You know, I've hit him like when he was at, I think Denver, I think I was too, I think I was too young to hit him at a Indianapolis. But I own one. I don't know. I've gotten Eli, you know, I've never been like a pops play with Archie Manning. I just feel like as, as a Manning family, he's the only one I didn't get a chance to hit. So he's got to get it. Oh God. All the Manning children for generations are really worried about the Jordan family coming and sacking them wherever they are. Who's the new Cam Newton in your life? Like the villain. You know what I mean? You had him for so long. Who's that guy now? Right? That's like asking, you know, Batman without Joker. Like no, like that's just is what it is. You can't replace them. You know, you would say that, you know, there was a bane for me that there's always going to be another villain. It was Matt Ryan and, or maybe I'm the villain. I'm going to say I'm probably the villain that quarterbacks, like quarterbacks are good people. And I go out of my way to make problems for. No. So I'm probably the villain. I actually think you're not the villain. You're super complimentary for quarterbacks. In fact, I would love to know in your hall of fame speech, which we are manifesting, how much real estate is going to Matt Ryan? Probably a fifth. I think that's probably a fifth of the speech that should quantify about how many sex I've gotten off of them. I mean, 23 and like 22 career games against them. Yeah. Like he deserves a chunk of that. I try and give them all his flowers now. You know, 20 to 15 MVP. You're one of the greatest quarterbacks to do it. One of my favorite targets, you know, I don't think anybody can replace it. Then he goes to Indianapolis. I don't get a phone call, texts. Like I feel, it's her. Yeah. What if, I know when you've got a storied family history and you've got a million people to choose from, but the ultimate move, of course, would be if you picked him to introduce you in Canton when you're getting your bust and make your speech. Can you imagine that? That's the ultimate troll move. Yes. Oh, that's the ultimate troll move. I would probably extend the invite and know he's going to decline me. Yeah, he might not. Matt Ryan's pretty cool, honestly. He's a cool guy. He's a nice guy. Okay, let's talk about some of this. We've got wild card action this weekend. And you know what? There's a few things I can count on in life. You sacking Maddie Ice, you know, death taxes and the saints beating the Buccaneers. And it didn't happen this year. And it was crazy. And you didn't really get your hands on Tom Brady. Like you usually do. Tell me, like, let's size this up because we're looking at him. He's got the Cowboys, Micah Parsons. That's all super scary. The offensive line isn't great. Like, is Tom Brady like different this year? Like, has he got what it takes? Like, size him up for me. No, Tom Brady is exactly who Tom Brady has always been. He gets the ball out fast. I don't know if it has ever mattered what office alignment has been in front of Tom Brady. Because when he is at his best, he's wheeling and dealing in immediate routes, check downs, everything it is to move the ball. And that's just who he has been. And that's why I'm happy that I have Sack Tom Brady because I go in knowing these games, you can hit him as many times as you want, but he's only going to speed the ball up. He's not one of these guys who's going to sit and make the right decision, the slow right decision. It's quick process. He's already seen every defense you could ever try and throw at him. So he's ultimately one of the greatest offensive minds you've ever seen. So against the Cowboys, you've got DeMarcus, Lawrence, you've got Micah Parsons, you've got the big plugs in the middle that's still getting active. If anybody has the ability to get after them and then upset them with young digs over there and they're secondary with their playing, it's got to be the Cowboys. It's got to be the Cowboys. When you look at the playoff picture, let's pull up the playoff picture for Cam Jordan here. Is anything that sticks out to you that we need to know about or is there a team that you think will surprise everybody? Gronk said that the Giants will beat the Vikings. That's high hopes. Okay, let's look at the playoff picture. Can we pull it up control room? Justin Jefferson, what do you think? Eric Kendricks? What's the upset? What's the upset of the week? The only one I could possibly see being an upset is Gino. Woo! Number one defense? Yeah, that's about it. Cause other than that, Philly, I don't think it's losing this week. I don't think that's happening. Minnesota's probably winning this week. Tampa Bay, I mean, they're pretty much even, but I'm probably going to say Tampa Bay's probably winning this week. Jacksonville, I hope is going to win this week. Just cause my boy, Marv Jones is over there. Keenan Allen over at Chargers. Ah, that split decision. Go Bears. It's a close game, yeah. You'd say Miami, Buffalo. Because of the love I got for Toronto Armstead, I'm going to go Miami over to Buffalo. I like that. Okay, but you have love for Toronto Armstead, but you don't even name offensive linemen on other, they don't have names, but Toronto Armstead, you got to earn a name and Toronto Armstead. You know what I'm saying? Best tackle in the game, probably. I know Trent, yeah, Williams. There we go. I know that one. Yeah, do you miss Toronto? I miss him on the same. Yeah, that's my dog. That's my dog, you know, not even just for the offensive linemen that he is, but just as a person, you know, the way he goes back to community, the energy he brings to locker room, actually the aggressiveness that he brings and makes his other offensive linemen match his intensity is something you can't replace. I will say this, you mentioned the Dolphins and wanting Toronto breaking news to a ruled out. Mike McDaniel said he's not playing, so Skyler Thompson will start for those Dolphins. Tough bout for them in the first round. We don't even love the mark and suit up against the Bengals in round three against them. But I will say, I just looked it up. Arch Manning, could you gonna hang on four more years to get a shot at Arch Manning? I mean, we were pushing that cuss. I love that for me. I love that for me. At this point, you know, the way that NIL landscape has taken over college, well, we actually have to wait four more years. Like at this point, it's gonna be like one of those, you know, basketball transformations. Actually, you can forego, you know, that third year, they're gonna like press it up and since they're already programs anyways, I'll see him in two. I like this for me if he can get there in two. I like this for you too. I really do. We gotta find your next villain and hopefully I see you at Super Bowl. Thank you for coming on. Please come on again, maybe with Mark. But in the meantime, get trust levels, new episodes going, and we gotta do the trust levels up in Adam's collab. Deal? Oh yeah, big trust, big levels. That was tough. Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate you finally having me on. I feel lucky. I can't even hear you to cut my mic. All right, it's Kev Jordan. We love you. Thanks for that. Hopefully I'll see you at Super Bowl. Super Bowl Week, that would be amazing. We'll be back right here with Palmers. We're hearing reports that Lamar Jackson has an uphill battle to suit up against the Bengals and this just in no to a McDaniel saying he has been ruled out is all about Skyler Thompson starting against Buffalo. Waterproof mascara in full tact for our next guest. One of the funniest people I know. He has a stand up special, a new one on Netflix called Nocturnal Admissions. Check it out. He's got his Verzi Effect podcast and he's in the middle of his level up tours and shows all over the country. Mr. Comedian, Paul Verzi! Hey, how are you? Where are you kiddo? I am like eight, I am miserable because I should be in there with you right now and I'm probably shitting five miles away from you. But what am I gonna do? Paul, this shit is unacceptable. It is, I mean, and I come to California in the worst weather. It's the worst, it's the worst. But listen, we're rocking it, we're making it happen. I wanna look at your tour dates. It's a level up tour. Everybody go check it out. Listen, Valentine's Day in Pittsburgh, beautiful. I'm from Chicago, early March. It sounds gorgeous to go out there and have some fun. You're in the middle of the tour. You've got so much going on. And you were at the Hollywood Improv last night. So what's the biggest difference performing out here as opposed to New York? You know, the people are dumber out here. No, I'm kidding. No, you know what? I think they watch comedy different in LA. It's listen, funny is funny, but I think here it's more like act outs and a lot more of like, they watch it different. We're in New York, I feel like it's more fast paced. All right, now we got the Giants. Ever since I've known you, Giants jets suck. I moved to LA and all of a sudden they're good. Are the Giants going to do some damage? Gronk was on my show earlier. I asked him what's the upset? He goes Giants are beating the Vikings. Yeah, I think if we had the Niners we'd be in trouble. I love our chances with the Vikings. I love what we're doing. I love what Daniel Jones is doing. Daniel Jones has become the guy. Everybody wrote him off, okay? Everybody said he was not the guy. He seems to be the guy. So yeah, I like the Giants to win that game. I predicted the Giants every game. I don't know if you know this, but I was on another show, another NFL show. Okay. And I predicted every Giants game and I was wrong by four. Was it my old show? And I picked, no, it was not. Okay. It was your old network. It was your old network. Okay, okay. I went on, they went down the entire schedule. I said, what the Giants would do? I was wrong four times, but I said they would go nine and eight. I think we beat these. I think we beat them. I got the Giants 24-22. All right, I'm excited, but I know you're in LA because you were of course the big game on Monday at SoFi. Your career is popping off right now. Netflix special, nocturnal admissions, everybody take it out. You are taking over comedy like our family, Pat McAfee is taking over sports media. He's everywhere. And you guys have something in common. You are both big believers, I understand, in aliens. Is that true? Yes. Okay, I want you to listen to what he said on my show about what he would do if he ran into an alien. Take a listen to this. Yeah, I would like to just chat with him, okay? I'd like to have a conversation because I think everybody has a story and I couldn't fathom what an outer galactic or intergalactic one would be like from an alien. And I think we're getting close, okay? I think we're getting real close to meeting these aliens and I am here for it. He said he wants to shake one's hand. Is that appropriate? What are your thoughts? Oh my God, yeah, can I say this? I would like to smoke a joint with an alien. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I would like to have some beers or a tequila with an alien and just let them wind down with me to see what that would be like because they gotta let their hair down too, you know? Yeah, they've got to do that, of course. They gotta let their hair down. I think you guys are idiots. I think they're here to kill us. But hey, I like the PG Disney movie aspect of it. The ET, ET phone home part of it is great. They would have killed us already. We have done too many stupid things on this planet where they could have just been like enough is enough. I think they like us actually. Okay, I like hearing that. Listen, we like you here on the show. Everybody's getting into the broadcast booth these days, okay? You get kids from Nickelodeon. You got the guys from Dude Perfect, SpongeBob characters, Tony Romo, but that's a joke, but I'm Tony Romo. But we haven't seen a comedian get a shot since Dennis Miller in the early 2000s. What is the dream broadcast booth team comedian style? With me or me watching? Sure, you, no, make the perfect booth. I think a great booth would be myself because I got the positive energy, then I think a Bill Burr who could give the anger a little bit of anger, but still be funny. And then I think Chappelle, Dave Chappelle because he would just be, he would be like, I think he would just take things over the top with all three of us. And I think it could be hilarious. Who wouldn't want to see that, man? Like... I don't know, they're getting you wrong. Can you imagine? Who would be the sideline reporter in that outfit? Oh, by far Chris Rock. Like Chris Rock by far. What the hell are you doing? Oh, hilarious. Can you imagine him down there? That would be amazing. Okay, you're a Giants fan. You're plugged into the whole league though. Quickly before you go, which dark horse team do you think could make a run here? Well, I've been saying the whole, I've been saying the whole year, I think the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl. I think the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl. I think with Eckler and Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and all those weapons, the defense is good and Justin Herbert, man. Justin Herbert is the dude. He's the real dude. Look at you giving Los Angeles love, even though LA's giving you no love, not at the improv, not at the weather. If I could tell you how upset I am about LA right now, you would never have me back on the program. I hate LA. I hate LA. I said it. We gotta go. Love you, Paul Bursey. Check out the Tour of Dates, PaulBursey.com. We love you. Good luck, congratulations. Come back to New York. I'm gone. I wanna go back to New York.