 All right, I'll call the award of the Monday, September 26th meeting of the Arlington Redevelopment Board. First up this evening is Arlington Center for the Arts fundraising update. Hi. You folks who come forward and introduce yourselves please come on up. So, hi everybody, thanks for having us, I'm going to make her the executive director of the Arlington Center for the Arts and it's nice to see you again with me tonight our Pat Trikathli from the ACA Board of Directors, he is our architect on the board and working with us really closely on issues of space planning and construction for the project. And Lisa Padula is working with ACA on fundraising in the capital campaign. So we're actually a little early with this update that all you, if you remember, was asking for quarterly reports, the first of which would be on October 15th. Jenny and I have been meeting monthly and it sounded like the October 17th meeting was going to be full of other stuff and this would be probably a better time to just update you on where we're at. So some quick points and then we really interested in your any thoughts and questions for us. Fundraising progress to date, as you may remember we had set a 130,000 target for January 31st 2017 and as of today we're halfway there to that goal. As of today we've raised just 63,500 in cash and sale requests during this kind of quiet phase and we're going to continue doing outreach to individual donors to build that amount in this quiet phase as we move towards the official public phase of projected launch date of October 27th. So Thursday night after special time meeting was over Jenny and I worked to confirm that that was the date that would work for her and for the town manager and it works for the ACA board but we just wanted to make sure that it worked for this group or at least some members of this group would also be able to be there. So we're envisioning something on the front steps of the central school and the kind of official symbolic cutting of their event to launch the public not so quiet phase of the capital campaign so you or some of you can be there for that. As we work towards the 130,000 dollar goal in January and then the bigger goal for the project as a whole we've got a strategy with a combination of individual donor outreach business, foundation and some events planning and we wanted to get some events dates on your calendar which I think you've got the flyer there which shows our three major fundraisers of the year in November which will be a co-themed movie. Preview at the Regent Theatre done by Eric Stange, our Arlington's maybe most famous filmmaker this movie is going to be on the American Master Series on PBS and he's going to give Arlington the first sneak peek at that film in November and then to follow that two events one in January which will be kind of like an arts ball gala at town hall and then in April our blues apocalypse if you don't know about this event will be doing for the third time this year it sold out over at the Gibbs building the last two years so we're going to bring it down to all this year we'll be the three pillars of our event a big public event fundraising over the year and then we're scheduling a series of smaller community outreach neighborhood house parties to bring people together introduce them to the project invite them to participate in the campaign as they are able we're also working on mailing a direct mailing in advance of the ribbon cutting in October and a number of other avenues we're pinning our biggest hopes for foundation grant support on the Mass Cultural Council Jenny and I went last month to visit with the Mass Cultural Council the administrator of the cultural facilities find a grant and if you remember that's a one-to-one manage of four projects just like this one and while it is a competitive pool and we know that they get a lot more requests than they can fund I think Jenny and I both came away from that medium feeling like we've got a project that really hits the center of the target for what they're looking for and we have great chance to put together a competitive application for that money so that's sort of a thumbnail on where we're at with the fundraising to date and fundraising planning in terms of the project planning we also wanted to let you know that we have officially engaged with Pink and Company as our owner's project manager we're at the owner so I'm not sure what the right word for that is but project manager we own the project we're planning construction then for the move and we're in the process now working with Pink to draft up the RFP for site and protect services I put this all together in just one page report for you along with this capital campaign review which I see that you already have but that is where we're at so far and we really welcome any thoughts, questions or comments Sounds to me like you're right on track, ahead of track I'm impressed that you're fundraising so far so it sounds good to me On the cultural facilities fund grant so the letter of intent is due in November, final proposal in January and then typically like a spring funding, a spring notification So it's not ideal in terms of the cycle for our project but I think the way we're thinking about that is you know we get this three tier estimate Bringing up to the next one And then there wasn't one of the Pull into feedback for the cultural facilities fund grant is that so many of their projects are they grant and then there's still a fundraising process for us we're going to basically have to be shovel ready So that helps us I think in their vetting process So it's tight schedule for us I think it's also beneficial as they are evaluating this project against others It sounds like many successful projects get the MCC money and then start their massive fundraising So we'll do it the other way And if anything we get that grant and trigger our ability to meet and hopefully exceed our amount Great, great Thank you very much Next up is the appointment to the vision 2020 standing committee Jenny Jenny is another Jenny Jenny for a tool So vision 2020 I think we're all familiar with vision 2020 basically as part of the organization we have improved I have it designated through A or B and then so you technically have to appoint a person so I can find somebody and bring them to you So that's what this process is Jenny is here to introduce herself and maybe talk about her interesting vision 2020 Hi, I'm Jen Tool I'll just go by Jen to make it a little easier I bought it home in Arlington about two years ago as my first I'm about to start raising a family here I grew up in Brookline and lived in Cambridge for many years but knew almost nothing about Arlington when I moved here I love it and have gotten involved in the community in many different ways since living here I've been attending the vision 2020 meetings since last spring I thought it was a great way to get more involved in very robust activities that happen in Arlington and I'm very interested in thinking about the town goals and what the future of the town looks like I currently work in PR, I've been working in PR for about a decade so I have kind of advanced marketing and public relations background and experience but prior to that I worked at Brookline Booksmith which is a thriving independent bookstore in Brookline and I've been a branch supporter of local independent businesses for a long time and it's really something that's very important to me and in talking with Julie the chair of vision 2020 and obviously we know that the empty store fronts are a great issue and she thought that that would be a good fit for me to start to explore that issue so I have jumped into that and attending the support Arlington Heights forum that happened in late July and getting involved with the support Arlington Center and keeping up on all of those issues I know now it's an issue with the town manager and that there's a lot happening on that front and we're trying to figure out how vision 2020 can work with all of these groups and facilitate these groups working together amongst each other to help tackle this issue I'm glad to have you Thank you I know everybody seems to know each other and I'm still like I need an org chart Any questions about me or my background or what I plan to do with the group From my perspective I think if you can concentrate on exactly what you're talking about that would be great because I think we do have some challenges with respect to that so it sounds really nice to me I've been here all the time and I've been here so long but I still don't know all the committees and what everybody does and I think it's great just don't worry about that just learn as much as you can and if you learn about it could you tell me too they have committees like the conservation committee and so forth and they all overlap so we all have this common overlapping mission so it's good to be here and keep in touch and all that kind of thing and that will help everything reinforce everything you're doing Welcome I'll move to a point to be the our designator vision 2020 standard committee yep all in favor nice to meet you next binar in front of all of us is the application for the comprehensive permit for Thorndike Place which is the project currently pending and we've been asked to provide a comment letter to the zoning board of appeals we were all asked to provide comments to Jenny earlier so if you want to bring us up to speed you can talk about what's next actually I'm going to hand it over to Laura who's going to outline sort of the process where we're at, summarize some of the comments that we've already received and then I'm actually going to type a bit because of the timing of this meeting so the town's review process begins tomorrow September 27th at the zoning board of appeals we expect the ZBA tomorrow to say that they are, that the town is not subject to 40B because we have 1.5% of our land area and affordable housing but regardless the caring gets opened and the process begins until the review goes to the state DHCD so there could be two public hearings there would definitely be one but there could be two nights of public hearing before the clock stops while that review happens at the state so I'm sorry is one public hearing tomorrow night? they won't just say we're not subject to a blah blah blah they'll actually have the public hearing as well well they will accept the comments from the department we have an understanding that they're going to open up the hearing tomorrow, invite the applicant to make a presentation open it up for public comment and then talk about continue the hearing so the comments, the ZBA asked a number of town departments and boards for comments, they basically were looking for is there missing information and is your board or department interested in having a peer review of the information that's submitted, they heard from the conservation commission the board of health, transportation advisory committee, fire chief, town engineer, open space committee and inspection services and the ARB will be the last so there will be a comment letter all together normally this size project would be something that you would review and so you have sort of a unique position because you have much more skills in reviewing larger projects and more important projects the ZBA generally reviews smaller projects so it's really you really can have a bigger or a smaller role as you want in terms of coming back and seeing different pieces of it along the way and also because the planning department is kind of managing the process we will know when important things are the timing we were going to suggest that you look at design the affordable housing, traffic and access although TAC has done a very rigorous review of their traffic study so I don't think you have to get into the details of you know streets and intersections but maybe to talk about broader transportation demand management or something along those lines and then the wetlands which again the conservation commission did a very rigorous review but you might have some interest in how will the public access will there be public access to that area and how will it be controlled and who's going to take care of it and stuff like that so I don't think you have to worry about the wetlands protection issue that seems to be well covered but the kind of things that you usually review in a project which would be how is the public going to be taking care of here and so that's just a one to note that for me and just to add on to this so and many of your comments followed in these four categories wetlands was the first one traffic and access was the second, the third was design and then the fourth was affordable housing there's anything else that we missed in terms of categories that you want to talk about we can kind of organize this whatever makes the most sense I'm sorry what was the second design so in design I guess the question would be there I mean I guess we're talking about massing as well as mechanicals and stuff like that because I think this was sorely lacking on mechanicals et cetera you said we suggest full size plans are needed key dimensions, building sections, proposed materials, architectural site plan I can include massing and mechanicals yeah mechanicals especially because I mean they're very close to the neighborhood here I know we've taken a lot of time with respect to generators and when generators are going to be on and off do you think about the Brigham among others that took us two meetings so really mechanicals are key my major concern was the affordable housing modern income and marketing housing in reviewing that as those steps come through design we talked about and then I'm also concerned about traffic egress and then impacts on route two with route two specifically some of the projects that are happening on the other side of route two and how this might affect that and vice versa both with traffic and with water flow where the water is going to go and you can probably describe what I'm talking about same idea I don't know if this is for us to talk about or one of the things that I'm concerned about is the impact on the bike path and then some other safety concerns that go in there I know that that's been a long running discussion about that particular area particularly given there's kind of intensity that's propped up in the area over the years I'd kind of like to know how to deal with that and what they intend to do about safety issues and how they intend to manage the displacement of the people that are living there actually can we take the first comment about the bike path impact on the bike path can you just explain a little bit more about that sure I'd just like to see if they're going to make any improvements to bike access there to connect the neighbor the new neighborhood to the bike path for the new housing the encampment is actually to be addressed by a committee that has yet to be completely formed and that is actually a directive from town meeting annual town meeting the timing is strange but we have not yet to form that committee and once it gets started that's supposed to be addressing that particular issue but it's worth it so when you talk about the impact are you concerned about too many people using the bike way well I want to know how they're going to connect it what they're going to do I suppose the additional use of the bike way should be addressed to some extent and then along that as far as you mentioned transportation management how they might use it to their advantage and then traffic that's expected to be added there into those neighborhoods I'm taking a little bit of a different approach then I'd like to get more information in regards to the wetlands there's existing wetlands there and they're going to go ahead and modify that and I believe they I'm not sure but there's not enough information here do they exceed some sort of upset limit where they have to go beyond and go to army corps engineers I believe but once you go over a certain threshold there's a review process and have we looked into that review process the conservation commission is well aware of the requirements they wrote a very long letter and then the other part of it was they said they were going to do modifications to improve flow from the wetlands area to a brook on the E3-2 will that create more downstream issues later on I can't get my hands around this now maybe it's already been handled in other departments but I'm not sure that's one of the concerns I have too as far as where does all this water go there was enough mass there to have some sort of drainage but now there's reduction in that it goes somewhere it's in the flood plains I'm not sure where but I'm swimming and reading somewhere the Cambridge Commission I study on stormwater runoff and flood plains and the numbers were large in what they're projecting right now and has that been taken into account just not enough information that I would rather if the town is already aware of this and intention to it that's fine I'm just commenting on what I was given and just seem to be I think that might be an area that we would say that some peer review would be because it might even be more sophisticated than anyone in the town where it can analyze I would highly recommend if we can get a third party independent reviewer that actually has an expectation in this area to take a study of this review what they have done on that I think some Andy's comments that I actually saw applies pretty good and we'll let Andy cover those so those are my main terms about the wetlands and others so as I mentioned I agree with some other comments that I saw with respect to materials and hands on the design itself is not the best looking buildings we've ever seen built in our town and so from that perspective I'd like to understand that from the mechanical perspective that really is important the other thing I would ask about is I do see that they're having I think 304 parking spaces some underneath I think it must be underneath I can't really tell where they all are that's a little bit of a mystery and then as far as massing is concerned I might be wrong but really it's this one kind of sketch if you will from one porch is all we're really getting from a massing perspective from the neighborhood this is woefully inadequate as far as you know where is this what is this it says Dorothy Road proposed townhouses I mean we really should have along the way that massing is all along Dorothy Road and we really need to understand what that would look like I mean to be able to comment on it better so I'd certainly want to understand that better and certainly have a lot better than one I think there's like one little thing where they show a tip of it too this is what it would look like over the wetlands I'm not buying that either but the other massing is there another thing were you also going to say that you wanted to see what the large building looked like from Dorothy Road? Yes you can just oh I know what I was going to say you can just see it right there they've got just like a little tiny thing but you know they've got it on an angle if you look at how this sketch is done it's on an angle so this would automatically block it if you're right here I'm guessing that thing is looming up there and the other thing is you're seeing some nice full grown trees here I don't think we've seen a landscape plan that is definitive enough to say that they are going to plant trees that big those that is not something we typically see in a lot of the developments so that type of screening and et cetera we're going to understand as far as once again massing is concerned the other thing that and I must admit maybe it's in here somewhere but I didn't see it is the and maybe this is only for the state in a 40B so I don't know but as far as affordable housing is concerned obviously we'd love it to be perpetual but I know 40B limits you on it as far as that is concerned but where is the affordable housing going to be you know obviously we want it to be throughout the throughout the project we don't want it just to be in one spot similarly and I come back to parking on this because this was a big thing of a sense is I want to understand where all the parking is for affordable housing because that too should be integrated into the project as a whole and not just separate so you know our inclusive zoning requires that you know every that the affordable units and the affordable parking and everything else be just part of the project and like I said maybe I'm missing it here but I'm not seeing statements to that effect within so for me that's a really important thing and one I would stress if we were reviewing this so those big items I mean you know and that once again it's not even to talk about the aesthetically blah of what they've kind of come at us with on these kind of houses I mean they did a nice pretty sketch and they couldn't even make it look good so it's disappointing but they weren't of the bigger building which is cool I agree they definitely do yeah it was certainly no better I can I know that yeah yeah over here and actually so as far as massing is concerned they did do this too you can see they've got existing home northeastern townhouses and east building but they don't really they still don't give you the sense of what it's going to look like and here are the elevations over here on the town homes I mean opportunity to see the design again or possibly meet with the developer to talk about the design in the future time I would love the opportunity to do so just to make these buildings nice and looking yeah they want to have right here I mean typically we'd have the people in here obviously you know from our perspective the frustrating parties you have them in here they're describing it you ask these questions you get answers and you know that's not something we can I guess do in this situation or necessarily force but those are the categories I'd like so in this situation what we're doing is we're outlining where we see are the issues the potential issues and then we're also suggesting where we think peer review would be necessary so one of the peer review consultants would be clearly developed for the you know how the wetlands are dealt with and the storm water issues and those sorts of things but if you are talking about peer review issues to the extent that you are maybe there's an opportunity to get a peer review on that and that could be the kind of thing that we talk to the peer review consultant or the developer and possibly maybe one member of the board could sit with us with the peer reviewer if they don't have design that's on the board great that's what I had thanks the moderate income or middle income housing that would be for there's affordable home ownership and there's also affordable rental units are you talking about both? yes yes it's middle moderate I think but is that the same thing I'm trying to understand what it meant one said moderate one of you said moderate you're saying not just affordable but one so the experience that we had both at SINs and Brigham's not Brigham's just SINs middle income rental is not a very desirable product it's not low it's not it's too expensive I didn't mention that because that's not something I on my list because of that I remember that was actually a detriment but there are these townhouses that are going to be condos it would be great to have one or two of those as well one or two middle income okay great I'd like to see more townhouses be honest with you I think the ship is sailing it's worth saying things or we can say that I'll say this now I think it is worth saying I think more townhouses open up to affordable moderate income which we just discussed it's far more valuable to this town and addresses many of the problems that this board has been trying to solve for the last year that we've been talking about with the zoning issues similar to the housing production plan with the master plan then adding in 220 rental units 219 rental units so it's more townhouses for sale so for sale pieces that I think addresses many of the discussions that we've had in these meetings over the last year how many are there? 6? well it's 6 for buildings but 12 units are they all for sale or are they rental too? I think the townhouses are all for sale but I don't know how you get more of those in there and still satisfy the requirements but I don't know I think that's something that's important to come from this board given the things that we've been trying to address I think more for sale units are key here sorry one last point from a peer review perspective we ask a real estate professional to tell us about the marketability of the different size units and that type of thing as well we certainly did it when we were talking about sims I guess it's up to them I guess that's still a long term study you mean like their affirmative verifying marketing plan that's basically what they're going to have that's the plan that outlines what is the market for the afforded units they will have to have a market but they haven't said anything about what the prices are they've done a performance for this thing so they can tell us what their estimation of the marketing of this thing is so we can ask for pricing and market knowledge so I think I've got affordable housing and design and wetlands pretty much covered and traffic so they're touting that they're right by airway there's going to be a lot of people who use airway from the bike path but there's a lot of parking we've been talking about maybe seeing if they could beef up the connections to the bikeway and have bike facilities indoor storage and stuff and have less parking which would be more pervious pavement not pavement, more unpaved land what about plans for shuttle to it from the old life so close to this pedestrian bridge I think it would be even closer to walk that way than on the bike path pedestrian if you know what's that, is that the state? you know, as far as the parking is concerned I guess one of my worries would be that they're going to go park in the different streets I guess there's no overnight so that might not be as big an issue but I think these people are already dealing with if I'm not mistaken the kind of commuter parking anyway so I guess I'd love to talk about the parking a little bit more and understand it better because I think the demand management makes sense and everything else what I fear is if you take away the parking then you're going to put even more pressure on that neighborhood that it just doesn't need so more information justified the parking I don't think the amount of parking should decrease their efforts for the demand I think they can be together yeah, they're not usually exclusive for the tenants, if they only have one space they might do a zip car for their second car or something like that rather than buy a second car if parking is hard to come by although we did ask for the traffic study to be updated as well we gave our comments, I know that I don't know if I should go through I think I'm okay, I think I have all of your comments folded into here I definitely tried to just be explicit about providing adequate plans materials generally the drawings I could really read them I guess the bigger picture then is back to their application particularly in terms of design is it like a special permit that we look at where we have certain written requirements for large projects those things have been done for a reason everybody understands the project three-dimensionally so I wonder whether are they required to provide that or are they going to go on 8.5 by 11 favorite Xerox I think they'll have to give better plans more detailed plans and full-size plans but it's a negotiation, so if the board says that they want a model it's quite likely they could go full-size I think they should get as close to their requirements that we have as a special permit, it's a large project and it's obviously a high focus and important project to the town so they have less than we have for a normal special permit I thought this was a preliminary thing where we're talking about issues that we want brought up, but if you're saying this is all you're getting I should raise a major flag right now that this is woefully inadequate to review a project this is the initial step, there's many more steps to come and we are not the first group to comment on the woefully inadequate design elements and plans they're hard to read, it's hard to understand they're all the same there's very little nuance happening to our bylaws, so this isn't like a crapshoot here, we know what we want, and usually we hold these more important bigger projects to a higher degree of requirement or whatever the right word is I went to town on the parking and access because I think, I don't know, I just lived in Arlington and Lake Street is a big issue Lake Street is part of River 2 Corridor and a lot of new projects have come about and I see a day of 2014 on the traffic impact assessment study and I would want to see a lot more on that and I'd like to have TAC present to us their assessment of that I can send you tomorrow a page letter that in great detail, I do have it they could form a traffic count they did not perform a traffic count but they told the developers that they should look at certain intersections that they didn't look at there was one thing, they were relying on a right turn off of Lake Street onto Little John Street which is no entrance they found a lot of problems the traffic study didn't provide an appendix which has the traffic count data in it so the TAC wanted to see that information as well did they ask for an update of the traffic impact assessment? Yes, they did because there's some new developments since that time where at least proposals like queuing on Lake Street at Brooks Ave and at the Minuteman Bikeway wasn't looked at at all, the transit mode share they predicted 28% they wanted more information about the parking also compared to other developments with similar access the number 28% would take full transit or could it be higher here? they wanted to see how the project connected both to transit and to the bike path, another thing about the cyclone is it's very constrained it doesn't show how it's going to connect to the bike path although they say that well, how do you get to these various transit? parking ratio, new development wasn't taken into consideration, bicycle accommodation and around the development and more information about the access points, the two driveways how they work I think you've got to take into account Thorn Dyke Field that's used more than many times and the buses are trying to get in there so it seemed like the way they were doing it was well this is what we think the uptick is going to be, oh it's very minimal I think they have I think having tack involved is key, they need to say how does Lake Street work, Lake Street work now not, this is an uptick of an already disastrous condition which they're not saying this won't be much worse than they don't finish the sentence, a completely disastrous condition right now where we don't want to impact it any more than that's what was a little shock when they said and by the way we might have an access in and out under two they can't just say maybe because that's as I said in my notes that's a huge swing factor it's like saying it's a make or break kind of issue that the town should be looking at and they treat it as a might happen well then they better give us a TIAS for both conditions otherwise what are we looking at? I don't see any value and people using it as a cut through and just getting off a route too and zooming through the neighborhood there are really big issues with the way they're handling the TIAS I agree with the understanding they're saying oh you get to transit so easily it'll show us in a map there's a map of the existing area a color Google map and it's kind of what's there now they should show that for the proposed development don't even show that they go immediately to these little intersection diagrams so what are you to make it we would not allow that in a second in this board we want to say a big site plan so if they get from here to there and what exactly are the new things you're doing then they would find that right turns are allowed on XYZ you take a left turn on the lake street you even make an assessment without a decent site plan so I noted that in my notes and the issue of the route 2 is critical so a much more sophisticated traffic impact and access that's a must that we can't look at it without the wetlands was well trodden that's a bad way to say it but by other comments but I found it hard to figure out where the paths were and there were two different plans that had different paths oh the paths through the development the question there are 11.5 acres of open space what is that open space open to the public is it left as open space but it's partly development not to be accessed we didn't even touch on open space I can summarize some of the questions that came up in the comments from each of the units the question that we have is clarify the public access to the area of will there be structures built and by whom what would be the function of the wetland after it's cleaned up who owns and maintains it I think that the open space community should think about that be part of the assessment because if you're in Thorndike field there would be a great amenity to have all sorts of multi-purpose public use of public land and a really important and large area of our town that's open space which is Thorndike I mean it would be a great amenity but I don't know I can't tell that from we could neither that's the question that we have that's amazing that's 11.5 this could be potentially a very big important thing that they should be proud of what they're doing there and I can't get it from what they're showing we could neither the only mention of it is basically in the cover letter and I think it says deeded or restricted land but it's not clear what that means or what they're going to put into it on one page they say something about it's like sims that's publicly accessible well not only that but there's two so there's three different pieces of open space on sims there's the upper part there's the lower walkable area and then there's the conservation land down at the base so that was spent a long time on that and that's something that I would expect to spend a long time on in the lower area which is the kind of left land woods that seems to what they're talking about they're talking about a wetland area not a tailored lawn or anything like that like this part but it sims it's accessible to the town, to the public we have that assumption but it's not clear from the proposal so we have some people here who need to make some comments but I'd still ask that you say your name and address and keep your comments brief for us to consider please just raise your hand Beth Ann Friedman, Ten Hazel Terrace we'd just be interested in when they did the traffic survey because I think a number of years ago I looked into traffic survey which was done in the middle of the summer at the week when everyone's on vacation as opposed to in the fall and the winter when people back in school are going to work I think it would make a huge difference about the timing of when they actually did that traffic survey and what they're using as a base line April 2014 I looked at it, they're doing proper times for a traffic impact and then they're extrapolating but it's okay to ask for more information so they're taking it to march and march is supposedly still in school normal school vacation but we can look at what other things might affect that February 2014 usually we would in a pressure permit say what are the basis of those kinds of analysis that you did why didn't you look at this intersection on that kind of things and that perfectly valid two days I see months it's just February 2014 February 2014 but yeah I think that they're going to need to update the report for sure for many reasons so I'm Jennifer Gerber and I live at Dwarth Edith Street which is the epicenter of all this so I share all your concerns and I'm glad that you have them I want to emphasize the safety and the traffic and to study the roads in the neighborhood not just Lake Street although that's going to be a nightmare too but the amount of traffic that's there now and the number of children and the safety of all the people that park for soccer and then have to walk through and then you're going to add all these cars and people paying $3,000 a month rent sorry but they're probably young people with fancy cars they're going to drive fat you know I think there's just and they're going to all be coming down to enter on the corner of Virgin Edith and I just think that this has got a lot of safety issues with the pedestrian and there's a lot of people that walk going to ALWife already and as much as they might say and everybody might say we'll walk from this development there's going to be a lot of people driving that are going to other places to work and you know they're not all going to be going to ALWife so we're definitely concerned Steve Rebelak 111 Sunnyside Avenue Sunnyside Avenue runs parallel to the ALWife Brook which is to say downstream from the development that may someday be known as Soren Dike Place a few weeks ago I heard something about the other planning to work with DEP to do some sort of environmental mitigation hearing someone mention earlier about improving the water flow into ALWife Brook did a little bit of a double take but so I don't know how the plans are different than what was proposed in the last public hearing just came to see what was going on thank you all coming in your comments Jenny where do we go that's actually a question I have for you so we can pull together this comment letter do you how do you want to deal with this signing I think the last letter was signed by you it needs to go to the ZBA I think well the meeting is a 6th story obviously I can send around the final letter to you if I can I can come sign this if not I don't think I think a lot of the kind of letters were actually signed I think as long as we all have a chance to see it if you capture all of what we just said that's basically what we're saying good alright I'll send it tomorrow thank you alright so I have a little handout it's just a quick update on some staffing project update and some upcoming meetings and events so just quickly on staffing as you know still looking for any development coordinator and the CDBG administrator we actually have had interviews with candidates for both jobs eight candidates were interviewed last week for the economic development job there's a finalist will be interviewed on October 6th the CDBG administrator we interviewed two people last week and I'm interviewing a finalist this week and then Corey Beckliffe our conservation administrator announced her resignation it's going to be at the end of next month so we're working with the concom to post the job notice by the end of the week hopefully fill her position as soon as possible so that's kind of a big another big loss she's been with the town for 16 years so I didn't write it here but obviously you may know already we had a great town day event really interactive engaging booth and lots of people coming by lots of people interested in the work that we were doing support our Lincoln Center, support our Lincoln Heights thanks to those who were able to come and help I really appreciated it so that was great we also kicked off the cultural plan project and I'll give you more information about that project as I get more information from MAPC who's consulting to us for the work and then lastly we had the final public forum for the concept plan for Masa phase two that was on last Thursday night relatively well attended meeting but not as well attended as some of the prior meetings that we have held but good input lots of interest I would say some debate about the concept as well as some of the key locations that we talked about the next steps are basically to get the cost estimates and then get a PNF project notification form prepared to go to Masa so that we can secure some funds for design and engineering and then just lastly I'm considering a possible improvement to Woodamore Park which happens to be one of an ARB property submitting something to CPA for the review contingent upon cost estimates and scope of work Is that the one in front of Jefferson County? Yes It's called Woodamore Park Yeah, the one right in front of Jefferson County Since it's under our purview I thought maybe it would be nice to do something with that park It's the park right in front of the Jefferson County by the way that looks like that came up great and the Jefferson County House was very nice and then I just listed some upcoming meetings we have a very packed agenda on October 17 we've got two public hearings, three public hearings two for special town meeting warrant articles and then one for Cafe Miro which is a proposed cafe coming to 319 Broadway Where's that? Four more CVS and then I brought to you actually a copy of the presentation if you were interested from the Masa straight skate project and then also there's an upcoming citizen planner training collaborative schedule that if any of you are interested in attending you can attend to any of these workshops so I thought I'd pass that out as well What's our next meeting? That is the next meeting So will you...this is the question is when did we advertise the public hearings for? If we can meet at 7, yes that would be great Well even if the public hearings don't start we can get minutes and everything Alright let's meet at 7 Good, thank you Jenny Minutes from August 22 They look good to me Got everybody's name correct? That's always the big issue Is that what documents were received? Yes, documents received So that means it was a correspondence to the ARB that was reviewed at the meeting So you don't put it in documents? No, but I can add one if you think that would be helpful Whatever you normally do I just want to make sure it's a document that was part of the proceedings So right below it says written comments received from and following the pattern from the test But glad to put it as documents received You know the only thing I guess you could do is down below when Mr. O'Reilly made his comment, he gave us those comments I think at that point So you could say He ended written comments too Okay I'll move to approve the minutes of August 22nd Alright I'll move to adjourn Alright