 So there's always a lot of noise when people ask the question Why don't you switch to Linux and I've asked this question in a dedicated video actually a couple times and We've talked about the main reasons and I've heard from a lot of people and in the last video I did about this two of the biggest reasons were Adobe and gaming the biggest one was gaming And we always hear about the Adobe folks and not being able to use Adobe products We always hear about those two main ones, right? And then there are the more minor ones that are more technologically based because they can't you know They have hardware that doesn't work well with Linux or or they have no interest in learning Linux or whatever it is Right, we always hear about those things But I think that there's actually one more thing that keeps a lot of people from actually being able to use Linux as their daily driver and it's one that doesn't really seem obvious when you first think about it because if you use email You're thinking Matt. I use email every day on Linux. What are you talking about email works fine on Linux? Well, that is true You can hop into your browser and go to the web client of your favorite email service and use email that way That's the way the vast majority of people actually do use email these days the vast majority of normal people I should say but for people who use email for work a lot of them and I'm one of those people Use a dedicated email client now for a lot of people that is Outlook now I hate Outlook with a passion and I don't know of anyone who says yeah. Yeah, I love Outlook. I would I can't live without it I love it. It's the best piece of software, right? I don't know anybody who says that now I know people who put up with it because it's not horrible and it does its job But I don't know anybody who is in love with it But a lot of people have to use it either because of the way their email service works They use exchange or some other reason maybe their company it requires them to have office 365 integration Whatever it is they have to use Outlook and of course Outlook isn't actually on Linux you can't use Outlook the actual piece of software on Linux at least not very easily so when people switch to Linux and one of the first things they'll probably do is install an email client or go searching for an email client they Take a look and find out that email clients and Linux are kind of universally terrible and I say this knowing that everyone's gonna come in the comments. They let go thunderbirds just fine or the Terminal nuts out there are going to say well, don't you just use Neo mutt or mutt or A and C or whatever it's called You know, there are tests several terminal based Email clients out there. Why don't you just use one of those? You know, I use Geary. It's perfectly fine. I use evolution. It's fine. I use claws or when it one of the Half a dozen other ones out there mail spring, you know, people are always saying well I use this and it's perfectly fine But if you sit down and think about it for just half a minute You're going to come to the conclusion that none of those that you name are really actually all that good Now none of them are horrible and usually they do the job just fine But if you need exchange support, you really don't have any options on Linux Now there is one client out there that wraps Outlook comm or Outlook or something in a web Rapper or a electron rapper or something. I don't know what the name of it is But there's that's like the one option if you want exchange I think you can hack exchange into Thunderbird and I think that they are going to support it soon if they haven't Already I suppose I haven't really been paying attention But I know that I read somewhere that they're planning on adding exchange support But it hasn't I mean Thunderbird has been the email client for decades at this point Like ever since it was released It's been the email client the one that says well if you if you need to use an email client Thunderbird is the way to go And for years exchange hasn't been something that it supports So there's always been that thing but even outside of the exchange support in the office 365 and the Outlook stuff Honestly Thunderbird is such a poor piece of software that I find it hard to recommend it to anybody Tried like I was so excited. In fact, I was so excited. I made a video when it was late about the redesign of Thunderbird like I made a whole video because they released Thunderbird on one day and then like weeks later Nobody had it like unless you use even the like the main version, which is the flat peg version Still wasn't updated. I made a whole video bitching about it, right? And I got a lot of shit for that video because like all you just need to be patient man. I Know I know I know but it was a stupid video It's still a stupid video But the point was I was really excited about the Thunderbird redesign because they they piped it up for a year and a half And then the update came down and I actually got it and I was like this looks exactly like the Previous version of Thunderbird and what the hell's going on like yeah There was a new search bar up at the bar at the top and there are some fancy new icons But other than that it looked exactly the same now Looks aren't everything the biggest problem. I have a Thunderbird isn't that it looks bad It's that it's laid out weird that it has a really poor way of triaging email Because you can't see everything in the email list and even if you change around change things around so the Messages around the bottom or on the side or wherever you still can't see anything in the email list like you see the Sender and the date and that's it That's not useful if you have a whole bunch of emails that you have to go through really fast unless you know everyone who sends you email It's annoying and not a great way of doing things now again I hear I hear that they're going to be redoing that and making it more useful But if it's like the last update it'll take them a year and a half and it won't be as good as we wanted it to be I'm a little salty just a little salty, but I think my point is this If you are someone who uses email and you want a native client You are kind of screwed on Linux now you can settle for Thunderbird or Mail spring or gear your evolution or whatever those things are all Serviceable you can use them. I've settled on Thunderbird. I use it. I'm not happy about it But if you look at the email clients that are available on Linux, which are numerous all of them are better Like I'll look better. I hate to say this, but it is in fact better than anything you can get on Linux. It's just absolutely is There are several other third-party clients that have a ton of features a ton of customization that you can use all of them Support exchange they all have the ability for you to integrate a lot of services into them And they're all just almost universally better now some of them are obviously really expensive for you to choose So I mean there the the free and Thunderbird is a very good deal for a lot of people and it does the basics Fairly although I would argue with the word fairly there I suppose but it's fine But if you compare it to the things that people are probably using on Windows and they come here and they use this it's not going to be as good for them and Something that I've struggled with since I've switched to Linux is finding a good email client I've made a video about this in the past. Where are all the good email clients for Linux? And there's still no good answer like mail spring was the one that I had the most hope for like it looks Really nice. It has a lot of really cool functionality like read receipts and the ability to do a little bit of tracking of Statistics and stuff like that. It has a lot of really nice things about it that it does fairly well But unless you use a GTK based desktop environment, it looks like utter garbage everywhere else I mean it just stands out like a sore thumb now not a big deal for everybody But if you're like me who cares about that kind of thing It's a little disappointing and on top of that it even though it has gone open source It still requires or at least seems to require a mail spring account to actually use and I'm not opposed to having Account with someone but I want something for it right if you're gonna take my email and then send me random emails When that I don't really want I would like something in return But the mail spring account doesn't give you that like I would love it if I could just sign it with my mail spring account It would remember all the email cons I've ever used with mail spring And I wouldn't have to add them every time I use mail spring that'd be really freaking cool But it doesn't do that it does nothing as far as I can tell so there's always that plus It was proprietary for a very long time So I mean I'm not one of those guys who cares whether or not something is proprietary all that much I prefer to have open source. I've you know, I bias I have a strong bias towards open source But if a piece of proprietary software is better, I'll use it like Vivaldi is proprietary software. I use it every day It's a fantastic browser. You should definitely try and apparently I'm a fan point now, but Besides the point right is that I can use proprietary software So that didn't really turn me away But I know it turned a lot of people away like if you're gonna come to Linux chances are you're probably gonna try to Embrace the open source lifestyle and for a long time mail spring wasn't open source So there was that so email on Linux is one of those things I truly ask you to believe that does keep some people from actually Joining us on the Linux side of things because the clients there are Better now like I said, this is a I think it's it's not like the main reason why people don't switch to Linux That's absolutely not true but I think that it is a Thing that people think about especially people who are trying going to try to use Linux for their jobs, right? if they use Want to use Linux for their job and they want to have email up and running Which everybody does and they have to use a client They're gonna come here and find out that the clients on Linux aren't very good Which is just absolutely disappointing for them and for me too because I've been struggling now for six years Trying to find a email client that just works the way that I want it to work and I haven't found it yet I just haven't found it yet, and I don't think that I probably will Thunderbird keeps teasing me with redesigns and that fails to deliver on anything. That's actually any good. So I'm just highly disappointed. I'm very salty about it, and I needed to rant about it. So There you go. Anyways, that's it for this video if you have thoughts on this I'm sure I'm going to get dozens of comments about oh, I just I use this email client And it's fantastic for my purposes That's great. If you found the email client that works great for you. I am so happy for you. I Wish I could say the same Anyways, that's it for this video if you have anything to say comments in the comment section below if you haven't already Leave a thumbs up on this video. I'd really appreciate it. 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