 Okay, let's take a look at this yo, what's up guys? There has been a new blue post and this is uh, this is about a day old now We're uh, we're right on the eve We're right on the eve of season of discovery coming out Everybody is very excited like you can see how excited chat is right now So they put out a little uh a notice here a blue post about a classic era pvp update That is uh, also going to be applying to season of discovery So people have asked me to look into this i've done a lot of pvp in my time I've done the honor grind i've done the uh the rank 14 grind before so a lot of people have asked me to look At this and i haven't had the chance to just because i've been so busy getting ready for season of discovery Uh trying to figure out what server we're gonna play on and all that kind of stuff getting the getting the guild back together Kind of coordinating with a lot of the old guilds from years ago having some fun with it Okay, this is from kivax. He says when we updated the pvp honor system in patch 1.14.4 Our changes were focused on making it so that we no longer needed the old pvp honor system script So this is a change that happened in the summer and we can go ahead and take a look Uh, we can go ahead and take a look at that as well because I think a lot of people aren't familiar with that Maybe if they haven't been playing classic era or anything like that because the honor system that we have today Is not the same honor system that we had uh in original vanilla or in in the classic re-release They've changed the honor system now so we can take a look at that as well Just to familiarize some people with it who maybe i'm been paying attention myself included They wanted to uh make it to where they no longer needed the old pvp honor system script Eliminating ranking points and removing deranking decay or deranking due to decay as we look to the future We've carefully considered the role of decay in today's honor system and how it interacts with increasingly competitive honor requirements in the higher ranks As a result we've arrived at the decision to disable honor decay in classic era and in season of discovery This will become effective starting with the scheduled weekly maintenance Uh on december 6th in this region when the weekly honor rollover occurs on december 6th You will no longer decay due to having not met the minimum honor requirements for your rank Please note that decay is not the same as the penalties incurred by earning dishonorable kills Which is now the only way a player can lose rank of progress. Thank you So This is the change that I think blizzard should have made initially a lot of people have talked about what is wrong with the honor system It's uh, it takes too long. It's too. It's too grindy Uh people are like, oh, it's not skill based. It just takes a long time. It's not entirely true It's that's partially It's it's it's a half truth, right? It's a half truth that a lot of people start screaming from at the top of their lungs Whenever they want to come up with an excuse as to why they didn't get it um Now to be fair because it is a half truth. I think it is like kind of half valid, but That's a discussion for another time that kind of doesn't even matter. Um What's really the case here is now that they want to get rid of honor decay I don't want to go into all the specifics of how this works exactly I want to give a short version of how the honor system works You get honor points by killing the opposing faction And at the end of the week how it worked was it would put you in a ranking of how much honor you've gotten every week So based on how much honor you've gotten in that week it puts you in this it gives you a certain rank in the standings And based on how many players that week got a certain amount of honorable kills They're added to the player pool to calculate a bracket spot. Okay. I'm not gonna get into all those specifics I'm gonna I'm gonna try and keep it short But basically your standing determines how many rank points that you get Rank points are invisible. You can't see them. You can use a script to figure out your ranking points But what ranking points are that's actually your xp bar that Uh allows you to progress your honor rank So you need to get a certain amount of ranking points You have to pass a threshold to actually gain Because the higher your your rank is the more decay you have every single week This is this is the quickest shortest explanation that I can give it's very confusing. I'm sorry but Like the higher your rank the more decay the higher the rank the more decay And then you have to get a higher standing to gain more rank points to beat your decay And once you can beat your decay you actually gain and so you you have more decay to beat The higher rank you are So that's the explanation there now. They've decided to just get rid of the decay entirely What my solution was Was get rid of the decay and then you still have to reach a certain rank point threshold to advance What does this mean? This means that initially whenever people were trying to hit rank 14 Whenever they're trying to do the honor grind if you took any break at all It would take realistically at maximum efficiency. It takes like three months But realistically it would take about four months because of how bracket spots and stuff line up and whatever About four months to be able to hit rank 14 But it's a constant grind of just hours upon hours upon hours of every day to get to get Enough honor to hit your bracket cap and all kinds of stuff, right? You need to get a certain amount of honor to advance and it's it's miserable because Not just because you have to play a lot, right? Because I think playing a lot can be fun. It's very fun, right? Obviously, we like the game But what's miserable is if you miss a week If you're gone, you can't take a vacation you can't You can't get sick and like to the point where you can't play you can't have uh any tech problems Like your computer messes up and uh, you're like man my computer my computer broke I better go buy a star forge pc at star forge systems.com, right? You know that that if that happens, you know if that happens then Uh, your your rank is basically completely screwed. You miss one week and then you need to rank for like two more weeks For example, it could be that bad um So getting rid of that decay is going to prevent that so it's going to be much more comfortable It's still gonna take as much time or like this method makes it to where it takes as much time still But not as much time in a row So you can take a break if you want to and you can continue down the road to keep trying to rank up So that's that that's kind of how The way that I look at it If you get rid of the decay, but then you still have to get that rank point threshold to advance Then it works Here's my concern. I think this is a half good change So this effectively makes it easier to rank. So basically here's what we're saying Whenever they made this pvp change, right? Whenever they made this pvp change a while back Uh, you guys said and again, I I haven't done the rank since they changed the system a few months ago on classic era They got rid of the old honor script. They got rid of uh, they got rid of how ranking points work And they removed d ranking due to decay And now they have this like new contribution point system So they've made it where you can still decay, but you don't actually d rank due to decay So let's say you rank 13 You have a family emergency your computer breaks something happens. You're trying to get rank 14 How it works today right now before this change goes in is if you're halfway through your progress bar that progress park You go all the way back to the beginning And then when you come back you still have to get all of rank 13 and then 14 or all of rank 13 to get to 14 so now they're getting getting rid of that entirely and uh, they've basically made it now To where you're not competing against your own faction as much to be able to uh rank up Now does this make ranking easier? I think it probably does make ranking overall I think the fact that they've done this change And now they're doing this change ranking is definitely easier than it was Uh in the past uh in the original system. I think it's it's like I think it's probably I think it's a little bit easier But I think it's way Way more comfortable. I I think that I think that it they should have always had it to where the decay Was removed and you just had to have like a certain rank point threshold to advance because it looks here like, um With how they've changed this Is they've changed it to where it's it's just like a very very very long rep grind And uh, this post gives a this post gives like a more more specific like the the math behind it And how the contributions works contribution like I said contribution points are kind of the equivalent of what rank points It's where before now people are going to be like well, I did it pre decay change True, but uh, I guess at the end of the day I personally won't really know If it's if it's easier now Uh, or how much easier I think it did. I think it's definitely easier, but I don't know To what extent easier it's going to be Unless I do it again. I don't know if I'm ever going to go for rank 14 again It's very very uncomfortable There's there's a lot of things that you have to put on hold in in order to be able to do that And I'm in a different situation in my life right now With with what I'm doing with with my stream with otk with star forge with mad mushroom Everything else that I do that I don't think I would be able to to commit to the old honor grind anymore But now that they've changed the system to be like this I mean, maybe there is a chance that I come back and maybe there is a chance that uh that I that I go for uh For rank 14 again in a season of discovery or something I don't really know, but this this definitely makes it more attainable I think it's going to be very interesting to see as a classic pp new. What is the harm if ranking has made easier? Uh, too much good gear is available too easily and and it makes it uh less special If you're doing something commendable within the scope of the game You should be rewarded properly for it And if something is is now made too easy with the same level of reward that I had before It now turns into something that oh, well, this is so easy that any anybody can do it easily So if anybody can do it easily it now becomes something that's expected It now becomes something that is uh expected of you to do and it goes from being something that You earn because you you uh did something really commendable and it was a it was a feat of strength or whatever It now goes from that that thing that you earn to a chore that you have to do in order to be able to compete with everybody else That's one of the big points of difference between something Being hard and you get good stuff for it and something being too easy and you get good stuff for it It's kind of like the the participation trophy effect. So it's like free glad I'm not saying it's going to be that way, but I'm saying if it is too easy. It's not good What do you guys think? Uh, do you guys think that this is a good change overall? Or do you think it's just going to be flat out too easy if you guys are watching on youtube? Let me know in the comments on a personal level. I think this is something that Uh makes ranking again more reasonable for me. Is this a good change for the game overall? Uh, I don't know. I guess we'll see but uh, but I think that it is probably going to be easier And if it's a good change or not depends solely on the degree of how much easier it is If it's slightly easier, I think it's okay because it looks way more comfortable But slightly easier and way more comfortable. I think it actually is a good change and the reason why I think it's a good change You're going to have more of the player base Try and actually pvp because they won't feel like a hamster on a wheel and constantly having their rank Just go down and decay and I mean that's that's one of the big problems Uh, that's that's part of the problem of seeing a lack of pvp participation In classic wow is you feel like you're not really going anywhere. You feel like there's there's no point to it Now I think that's going to change and I think you're going to have increased participation with all those things considered I think it's potentially a very good change But I think if it is too easy just outright too easy to be able to rank up I think it's a bad change because it makes some very very good gear Uh available much more easily than in the past and it kind of goes more with that like like welfare pvp gear mindset that was uh uh kind of brought into the game Over the course of of the years and the different retail expansions with getting like Really cheap gear for for arenas and whatnot in the later expansions So, uh, I'm excited to see how it actually plays out in season discovery If you guys like the video if you guys like more of this stuff Make sure to leave a comment like the video subscribe Turn on your notifications so you guys get more more videos like this and everything else I do everything on my youtube channel all kinds of stuff So, uh, I hope you guys enjoy all kinds of variety and everything like that You know classic wow is my passion. 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