 on your team might be playing, that people do it then almost as a wee past. But as that past then grows, the danger is, if you're having that switch on, we've all got different genes, you know. I mean, all of us have a different way. I mean, when I was girls, not great with the books, not bad with football, which, where did that come from? It's either in you or it's not. The same as the gene that'll, that'll make you take, take up gambling, not the way they stop it. I, I put it on about myself, Greg, I'll be honest, I've no problem saying it. But I, it's very much about a bit of fun for me and I'll never go further than that. But obviously for people then, they don't have that, they don't have that switch off. So we're all made differently. The thing is, we've got to protect the people that are in danger of this because it's going to end up ruining so many lives. I mean, a lady called me a few weeks back, her son was a broad, brilliant job, Evan was flying for him and he just came through there that he was, had lost all his money gambling in the casinos, which is a much bigger thing in different countries, Australia, America and places, I guess. So, you know, I reached out to the Ocean McCombill and he was talking to me and I should be friends and he rang the lad and that has got him straightened up. But the emotion, I suppose, in the mum's voice talking to me, Greg, because I haven't experienced anybody in my family with that, people don't realize what's going on. And I think you got, you probably got Brendan and I don't know them at rock bottom. Do you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't need to know either, really. What, how long that was going on or what led up to that or how much was lost. But I would, I imagine they reached out to you and fair play to get Narsha involved. That was rock bottom point that was. That was the, whereas, you know, we have to, things couldn't get much worse, really. Yeah, Greg, it's horrible to hear anybody at that level. As you said, the target in nature of young people now, you can write on that this is all part of life and part of sport is very dangerous, I suppose. And as I say, the amount of people that have now drawn into this, Greg, there is somewhat of a past time. But the thing that gets me about Greg outside the addicts would be, you take your normal ad and we're all pretty much the same. You spend your wages that last week of the month, Greg. I'm waiting on that paycheck to come in. Now, you've got a certain bit of disposable income there. So if a lad is gambling, let's say, 100 quid a week without really even noticing that he's losing, you know, you know, there's a holiday for his family at the end of the year. And you know, just. That could be a disposable, Greg. But that's cool. You're taking money. Now, his wife or his family might really realize it. But it's something you're tipping away at that is really hurting your money, your extra wee bit income that you might have to put away for other things. I think that's the thing that gets me about your average guy betting on sports. But it's the way it's been done too. Like, there was a streaming service launched recently covering a particular sport that I like, right? And at the beginning, I know, because I'd be conscious that this was no mention of gambling, right? And then everything all of a sudden, it wasn't about whether one guy would beat another all of a sudden casually started to be, well, he's the favorite now, or you have to lay, if you lay five year old, you know, you get a 20 year return. And it was like really, really casual. And then I noticed adverts started popping up on this service and what were they for? They were for bookmakers. So what was happening is clearly and I can't prove this, but to coincide with the advertising campaign, which must have been big money, it was the casual referencing it was framing the sport and the winners and the losers in a betting context and I can pick the week where it kind of changed. And then all of a sudden you watch it now and it's like, right, everything's about get we've got gambling in the adverts, betting shops in the adverts. And now they're just casually talking about how you could benefit if you, you know, if you took a bit of a risk. And I was thinking, that's what happens. It's dirty. It's it's subliminal. And it's so contrived. And it's all about money. Yeah, as you said, the problem is once money comes into it, right, you know, have these gambling companies that are worth billions. So they're employing the best people out there to target people, as you say, almost a wee bit covert in terms of how they're getting the message and the partnering up with top stars like Merino and different sports personalities, X actors, all they make a wee bit comfy that this is all part of life and sure, stick a wee bit on no big deal and watch your hunch and watch this and watch that. So that's that level, I think, of making it normal that suits the gambling companies. But then in that, people going over and above what they should be doing. And it's hurting so many people. And there has to be some level where where it's pulled on to try and protect people. There's lots of people listening now thinking, whatever, I don't gamble, or it's not an issue for me. I might throw an odd thing in the grandness or something. But it is an issue for loads of people. And as you said about that lad that I said was abroad, that his mum phoned, people aren't talking about it and they're losing more than they can afford. And this is the thing that's hurting. And it's the fact that our younger people are being conditioned. At 18, to some extent, we can make our own minds up. And, you know, maybe sometimes, you know, you have to take the hit if you make the wrong decisions. But to be conditioning young people to believe that sport and gambling are completely intertwined is an issue. Stay with me, Brendan, because we want to hear Jamie's views here as well. Jamie, listen, sorry for holding. I really do appreciate your patience. And yours is a journey relatively late in life into a gambling addiction, Jamie. How did, as much as you're comfortable talking about it, tell me how things unfolded for you? Can you hear me all right? Loud and clear. Go ahead. Well, my addiction, like I got addiction to the Parkinson's disease, I took it at a part of two years of age and I was brought on this tablet and it just led to complications, you know, addictive behaviour, like, you know, I just started gambling and actually went to a meeting, a gambler's enormous meeting, and I was told by a man there that had a sister who took Parkinson's at the same age. And our problem was lot machines. So basically, I gambled all I had, you know. Really? Yeah, like, you know, it's just, I heard you all about today and this one, but the wiring out there, anybody who's diagnosed or put on medicine, like, there's very little wiring out there for them, you know. So are you saying there must have been some sort of a chemical change that, that sort of was able to trigger this addiction? 70% of people with Parkinson's disease get some kind of addictive behaviour. It could be shopping, could be anything at all, you know. And in the midst of it, Jamie, before you sort of says, right, I've gambled everything up, did you feel you had an addiction or what did it feel like when you were laying your bets? Yeah, once I got inside the bookish door, I was happy. Yeah. You know, two thousand me pocket or two euro me pocket was the same thing. Was it a bit of a coping mechanism as well or? No, just everything pushed me to the bookish, couldn't mark past them, couldn't drive past them. Yeah. Now when I went off to the medicine, I'm about to stay clear, don't rub them at all. And do you find it, do you know, if you're watching sports, Jamie? No bother at all, I can drive whatever at all now, pass the bookish, walk past the door, no problem. Right, okay. But yours is a word of warning then, because this is something that you believe was, was triggered by medication. It was, it definitely was, because once I went off to the medication, my dad told me, doctor, my doctor said, I probably should have warned you about that. Right, okay, but. Well, I've just seen somebody of us in the family should be told like. Understood. All right, Jamie, I'm glad things have improved for you in that regard, and I appreciate it, a word of warning. Thanks very much, Jamie, for your time. And again, thank you so much for holding. Brendan, what's the GA like in terms of its interaction with betting? I mean, we know football now, even just before kickoff in a soccer game, they'll run a betting sharp ad. It's the same with all the sports. Are we any better at it in our country with our own sports, I wonder? No, you know what, I think the betting in GA is a wee bit more complicated. You see, it's not as easy to do young play like soccer, like next goal in the way, corners and all that. It hasn't got that deep yet. You know, I think it's, there's very little draws, for example, in GA and that. So it's a wee bit of a different world around it. What I see with it, Greg, is people have to go a bit heavier and accumulator. So you might pick three or four teams to one, but there's always a, there's always a shock, there's always something in there, Greg. And by the very nature of sports, people will be caught out and they pick it in the chin. But what I mean is that a guy might put on five or six of them bets for one month, but he's still down. You know what I mean? It's very interesting, just from back to what Jamie was saying, that medication obviously switched on that gene that some people have, that they can't hold back, that they keep going and going. A very dangerous interest in hearing him say that, you know? And also they're talking about, they're talking about gambling machines as well as for them. I mean, gambling machines are also a big problem. I've spoken to people on this programme before, that a loved one disappears inside one of these buildings, comes out, nothing left. Absolutely nothing left, nothing for food, nothing for bills. You know, all the money gone and they can feel really incredibly isolated on it and feel really helpless. I mean, that is another area, of course, that this legislation will be looking at potentially. Yeah, you've definitely stopped measuring this one. There's a few of them on the border now, Craig, where they seem to always have people in the car park alright. And if you look at other countries for Australia, for example, being out there, these big casinos everywhere, and their casinos dwarf the money taken and compared to online. It's hard for us to believe in our energy. We wouldn't think casinos were taking the type of money or people would be on the slots, but they are flat out on them. I'll just give you an example, like at the bookies, you know, they do these big startup things where they'll give you a whole load of credit. So I signed up for one of these right away in the lockdown because there was a lot on it, right? So I won. I won right now. I went to take the money out and you wouldn't allow you because you hadn't put enough money in. And I thought they're in tells the tale of the bookie, even though I won the bet when I went they were removing money. They said that we haven't put enough money to take this out. So they actually need you to be in the red. And if you win, if you happen to continue to win with them or win big, they will ban you. So everything is geared for them to have money flowing in the one direction. Your money can go in instantly. This can be a three or four day for it to be for it to be sent back to you. And what some of them will do, they'll put it on hold right for three days and say that by the way, you can reverse this withdrawal at any moment. So and they know then people go, oh, there's another game on tonight. Right. I might and I don't mind. As I said, Brendan, adults will make decisions. You made your decision. You said stuff them. That's it's the it's the 1340 and 1516 year olds that I think they should be not subjected to this. So when they hit 18 and they get a job, they can make up their own decisions. I'm not saying things should be banned or anything unilateral, but to be purposely targeting these young people to be conditioning them to gamble. We should all be against that, I think. Yeah, there must be some way, basically, whenever we get things together that we could tie in a person's ability. Now, I know they said you can set limits and things like that, but you can get around them at any points, Craig. And I know loads of people that have but the bulletin said, you know, I know I'm losing money here. That's enough, right? Even before it gets to what you call the Dixon stage, when they sign off to getting text emails to hold up into their phone, you know, but come back offers, come back, come back and get the target at all the time. All the Texas won't slip them and they're back in again. So chasing. Well, good man for highlight because it's a massive thing out there and what you were saying there about the top of the iceberg. There's a lot of people just, you know, wasting their disposable income on things like this every month and that's something we talk about. Yeah, and we're not to embarrass them to support them, to talk to them. If you have an issue, talk to your mates, talk to fellas, talk to fellas, whatever it might take, just have it. There's no stigma. If you want to talk to someone or think you want to get something off your chest, it's good to talk. Thanks, Brendan. 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The company currently operates raid, healings, taxi services and Dublin and Cork and is seeking to bring electric bikes and in time electric scooters to cities and towns across Ireland. So this launch in Sligo was part of a wider push for both to deploy 16,000 e-bikes across Europe in 2022. Both operates a range of services including e-bikes, e-scooters, raid, healing and car clubs for over 100 million people across 170 cities. So as you can ask the question will this be rolled out in other towns in the northwest and in towns in Nilligal? As well as the way to say how it goes in Sligo presumably this is you pick a bike up in a location, use it, drop it at another location, it charges and all right sounds good because I think they're doing that with pushbikes in Ladderkennie already so it'd be interesting to see what happens, how that's going on, how the uptake might be for electric bikes. Okay we're backing dairy products. Yeah consumers and Ulster are overwhelmingly backing dairy production in Ireland with 86% calling for more support for dairy farmers to further enhance the sustainability of Ireland's grass-based dairy production process. This is one of the key findings of a new national research over 1500 Irish adults released by the European Milk Forum as part of a dairy and a healthy and sustainable European food system campaign. So 71% of the consumers surveyed say dairy is vital to rural communities and regional economies while 69% are willing to pay more for dairy products provided they see evidence that the increase is going to embed the latest environmental analysis and production so people are very sustainability aware at the moment Greg. Interesting event, interesting and important timing I think from the initial and development partnership. Yeah quite a lot going on there Greg, initial development partnership recently held the second event in the in-business series focusing on the initial construction manufacturing, transport and engineering sectors. The aims of in-business series are to bring businesses and entrepreneurs together and to collectively identify gaps and the needs of the in-business community. All right now we've been hearing from a local remelton farmer talking about potential availability of silage. Yeah, remelton farmer Alastair Doherty says he's worried there will be a shortage of silage and money later this year especially on smaller farms. The Donegal contractor who featured on the TG4 show contractors early this year is also predicting that it will be the smaller farmers who will be hit the hardest. All right and of course there are government incentives announced by Minister McCann-Logh to try and encourage that but we'll see I would trust Alastair's view rather than mine. Right okay everyone at this point is looking to try and trim the fat. There are ways of doing so and I suppose you know doing our bit. Yeah families could save about 60 euro a month by wasting less food according to a report from good body stockbrokers. Around a third of all food product in the world is wasted every year and households are the biggest culprits occurring according for 70% of it in the developed world so the good body stockbrokers findings published yesterday calculated that Irish homes waste about 55 kilograms of food every year. I can see how it happens. And we're all guilty of it. Yeah I think so. We're all guilty of it. Right on this week's podcast here. Yeah on this week's podcast Greg I am joined by Liam Cassidy. Born in Moncrana and raised in Kilmachrennan he left school at a young age to join the army. A career changed to come into the manufacturing sector in England and he took up a senior management position with General Motors before moving to the Gillette Corporation in 1991. He's a partner now in lean management at Altis Consulting a global business consultant firm that is headquartered in the US. Liam has become known as the serial factory fixture having turned around the fortunes of factories and supply chains all over the world. Now living in Newbridge County called there the Donegal native has shared the sugar to success and new book Make Your Factory Great and keep it that way. On this clip Liam recalls how he saved the Oral B plant in Iowa was supplied employed around 700 people from closure. I was recruited to buy Gillette and to the Oral B plant from GM to make it world class and I helped make it world class and it's still there to this day. And then I was asked to go to around 2000 the early 2000 to go to Iowa City in the Midwest to prepare the largest toothbrush plant in the world for closure. They had a fallen behind they had their costs that were very high they were the most expensive toothbrush plant in the world within the Gillette world anyway. And I said it would go but only if I could have a go turning it around because I'd been there already on a visit. I thought there was great potential there and I'd learned about world class manufacturing now it's called lean in other words. So lean manufacturing is really it's putting the people at the very center of things at every level you invest in them you you give them career paths you give them a voice in how the workplace should be designed and how it should operate and you hold them accountable you hold people accountable at every level. And so within two years we made the Iowa City factory the best factory performing factory in the Gillette organization. From a Gillette perspective definitely the best a man can get remarkable what he's doing there because he's actually going in and turning things around saving jobs a really really interesting story Kieran I'm sure. Yeah look he's supposed to his life path was very it's very interesting and how he changed joined the Army very young left went over to London and then the manufacturing world started on the floor on the factory floor literally and worked his way up. Obviously he could identify what worked and more importantly he could identify what wasn't able to work and if he got on that challenge to go over to the major production plant on the condition that he could try and save it and that's what he did so obviously he ruled that template out across the other factories and across the other businesses and supply chains that he was working with. Yeah and turn those people potentially about to lose their jobs into assets for the company which is the way it should be I think it's probably a bit about making companies realise what they have and how they can best use their staff. Yeah the only thing was making the employee part and central to the success of the company and giving them a voice and making them feel valued and I think obviously if you can bring people with you you'll heighten morale you'll heighten productivity and ultimately you'll heighten profit. Yeah and I know we have a bit of crack but that is another fabulous insight into another area of business the logistics of it and the difference one individual with their skills it can make skillset can make so you get to listen to the long version of that conversation with Liam Cassidy I'd imagine for it is a podcast for business people and those outside who want to hear more about business there could be real some real you know inspiration some tips there in the last 10 15 seconds Kieran. Yeah a few numbers of wisdom I'm there for for all ages and I was thinking but I come up this morning no matter what age you are there's a wee less in there and there's a few wee tips there from Liam that you could take on and I will share with you very well. Kieran thanks very much indeed I appreciate it look forward to seeing you next Wednesday the full interview with Liam Cassidy is available now on our website highlandradio.com in the playback session section it's also on Spotify and iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts and it'll be broadcast business matters on the radio on Sunday evening after the six o'clock news and if anyone wants to get in touch with you Kieran Yeah just drop it an email please Greg businessmatters at highlandradio.com Lovely stuff right we did a quick poll our social media is talking about gambling ads asking should they be banned before 9pm on Twitter 100% of you believe they should on Instagram the margins slightly different 76% says yes they should be banned 24% said no have a great day John Bresen's coming up around the Northwest next