 What's the perfect combination of Western medicine, fitness, and nutrition? Watch this. Our first caller is Grayson from Oklahoma. Grayson, what's happening? I am a currently a junior in college. I'm a biology pre-med student. I've pretty much just grown up with wanting to be a doctor and everything like that. But as I've gotten older, especially, I've really just like my passion is in health and fitness. That's what I'm really interested in. And so I want to do something that's health and wellness related. And I haven't seen a ton of doctors that have really created a practice that kind of interconnects the fitness and the medicine industry. And so I really just wanted to come to talk to you guys since I know you guys have such an extensive knowledge of the fitness industry as a whole and see if you guys know or have been around physicians or anyone in the medical field that's kind of intertwined the medical and the fitness industry. Yeah, no, that's a great question. And thank you, by the way, for your interest. I think this is a great combination when you have the expertise of Western medicine combined with fitness, training, nutrition type coaching. Now, here's the challenge with what you're asking. I know you're asking, do I know anybody like that? Off the top of my head, not necessarily, but here's the challenge and I'm sure you know this better than anybody. When you're trying to become a specialist in Western medicine, like you don't have time to also simultaneously become a specialist and gain the experience that's required to be really good at training and coaching people. It's really hard to do all by yourself. So what I would do in your shoes is this, and I've thought about this a lot in the past. In fact, this was actually something I even thought about doing at one point, which is when you figure out what your specialty is, do that and then you can get your own office. And then within that office, I would have a space for correctional exercise with trainers and with people who can coach nutrition. And when people come in, they'll see you as the specialist, but then they can work through coaching with nutrition and they can work with exercise specialists within your facility. I think that would be so valuable. And I actually think that that's the future of a lot of medicine. I think it's going to be a combination of those things. Oh yeah, I worked at a while. I didn't work. I did like an internship when I was in college at this place in Condell Medical Center. Right across the street from there was this amazing gym that had physicians on hand. It had personal trainers, physical therapists, you name it. Everything was sort of in-house and it was great because they all communicated with each other and were able to blend the programming and everything to fit and tailor that specific client amazingly. So I think that there's, I would love to see more of that kind of synergy amongst everybody's professions working together like that. Well, I think that's the answer is you're more likely to partner up with somebody who's like the, if you're going to, you go the doctor route and then you partner up with the fitness expert or you go the fitness route and then you find a doctor that aligns with your values and you partner with the doctor. And I think, not to say that you can't do both, I just think that if you go through all the work and effort to become a doctor, the money side of the fitness side is not going to be very appealing, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I can see patients and practice Western medicine and I get paid this much. If I spend any time over here on this kind of training clients, personal trainer side, I'm not making shit compared to that. So I think that would be the challenge that you would probably run into if you were trying to kind of live in both worlds. You know, the only person who comes to mind, Stephen Cabral, kind of like this. Yeah, he's a functional medicine. Yeah, he's got both. He's got Western and Eastern medicine. That's what makes him kind of unique, but still primarily a doctor, not really personal training or recommending. I mean, he does a lot of stuff in nutrition, but not really recommending that. I mean, that would be my recommendation is to work on being a specialist specifically in one of those areas and then trying to align yourself with another specialist in the opposite. And because you have a passion for both, you'll have probably a good idea of what a good trainer looks like, right? You would align your values well with that versus your traditional doctor that maybe doesn't care as much. Well, yeah. And if you stay the medical side, you could get sports medicine experts and you can get physical therapists who also have some specialization in other forms of exercise, because physical therapists are the best for correctional exercise, but then you want to also understand progressive overload and that kind of stuff. And there's a lot of PTs that also know that as well. So it's a medical facility even covered by insurance that kind of incorporates all of these things. I really do see this being the future of medicine in a lot of different ways. So you're headed in the right direction completely, Grayson. Well, thank you guys. I really appreciate that. And yeah, the other thing that I was kind of interested in and I've kind of been looking at is the physical therapy route. Just because I know you guys mentioned the other day that part of the disconnect between an MD and the patients and everything when they're trying to give health and wellness advice and stuff like that is they're not with them every day. So I thought maybe if I went to physical therapy route, I could get that maybe three day a week connection with a patient where you could have maybe more of an impact. And so that's kind of just what I'm trying to decide at this point because I do, you know, I love that part of, you know, like I just love the fitness industry so much. And I'm like, man, if I want to do what I love, maybe that's more of a route. So just kind of figuring it out. At 20 years old, it's a great, great age to be at, to be asking these types of questions. And probably some of the best advice could be too is just to go dabble in a little bit of all of it and see what you find yourself most passionate about. What is it that you stay up at night reading and learning about when you're not getting paid and you don't have to study for a test, but just because you're interested in it and let that drive your decision on what direction maybe you should go as far as a career, you know, and play with everything. I mean, I feel like at this age, it's a good time to try all these ideas that you have out and just see which one you naturally kind of fall into based off of what you're spending time doing when you're not being told to or getting paid. There's a lot of directions you can go. I mean, you can even go the direction of orthopedic surgeon and then in your facility work with physical therapists and trainers and people who work nutrition. I mean, there's so many ways to compliment all these different fields. And if you're the medical expert, it's your, it's your facility. I mean, I, I, I tried doing this with, uh, with Dr. Collins of mine, not necessarily creating a business together, but I created a network of people I'd refer to. So if I had somebody who had, you know, uh, gastro issues or I had a gastro specialist, I would send people to I had a couple of general surgeons that I could refer to if there were some issues. And I had some therapists that I would refer to. So I could, I could see there's so much potential here. Um, but I think Adam's hitting the nail on the head, like do the, for you specifically, do the one that you feel most passionate about, because you'll be the best at that. Um, and then you can supplement and compliment with that, with other people helping you in that. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. All right. Perfect. Thanks for calling. Hi. Well, thank you guys for having me on. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Great. No problem. Yeah. My best success hands down period with clients was when people worked with me and they worked with, you know, one or two other specialists that were experts at things that I was not. Um, I had people work with me and then massage therapists and physical therapists or with me and, you know, people who were experts in nutrition or with hormones. And it was wonderful because what I would do is I would create these, these, uh, these email threads where we would all work together. Yeah. And sometimes it would say to me, Hey, Sal, I don't think you should be doing squats with this person, because I'm noticing an issue here with the knee or whatever. And then I'll say, well, what about this particular issue with mobility? You know, that's a good idea. And we would go back and forth and construct like the best, uh, combination of, of therapies and the success rate was tremendous. It just seems that that's the most likely scenario, right? Is to, to, to get together with other specialists and then create some sort of versus what I got. He was asking at the beginning, which is more like what he could do all of it. I just don't see, I don't see you being, I don't know any, some hybrid of that. Yeah. I just, I don't know any doctors that went through all the schooling to become a doctor and then thought, I'm going to also, I'm going to go do 10 years of personal training and I mean, what's your, what's your guys's guess on why that is? I mean, mine is just the money, right? It's the money and the time. Yeah. You put all that time and effort into getting your PhD and the, at least you're making a pretty good income. You go to, you go to school. First of all, you have to crush in college, then you go to medical school. You got to crush there. Then you got to do an internship. You got to crush there. The whole time it's bell to bell, very stressful, very challenging. Then you get to start to practice medicine and you, you've, you now need to build experience as a doctor. You're going to go and become experienced as a trainer for another five to 10 years. Like I guess that by the time you're 50, you might be ready, you know, but that's a, that's a lot. You know, I think, and I also don't think you'll be as good as you being the expert on one thing and then working with having other people work with you. The neat part though is if he has a passion for both, he'll have a good eye for who to do it. 100%. Just, you know what I'm saying? So he'll have a good eye for what to look for in the trainer or the PTs or the other, the other practices, right? To align himself with.