 Hello, welcome to Toffy TV, this is the Toffy TV Everton podcast. Being coming back after a couple of weeks of him. We've been in the stalemate for a couple of weeks. I won't say stalemate but we've been in a sort of place where it's been the... We were just waiting weren't we? We found out pretty much a week ago now that Rapha Benitez was probably going to be the Everton manager. Been the favourite for quite some time. I think the last time we did this podcast it was just the same name for a week, wasn't it? We were talking about Nuno. The names like Potter, Gal Tia, Dunga Ffairlith. We spoke highly of him in the last podcast. Obviously he was the man that... I don't know if you wanted him but I definitely wanted him as the manager. But then here we are a couple of weeks later and Rapha Benitez is the man. The first man to manage Everton and Liverpool since 1892. What was your initial reaction to the news? Obviously we knew a few days before anyway because it's the worst kept secret in... I think Everton had great at keeping secrets but... Your spot on it was the worst kept secret in football, wasn't it really? We've known this news was the case for at least a week and a half now. We went from various names being in the heart. You had Gal Tia, Potter, Nuno, Benitez was there. We also sat there a couple of weeks ago and we said on the podcast we were just waiting for that time where it's one name and that all of the other names sort of drift away and it's just one name leading the race and then obviously that name to be announced and that was what we've had for about the last week or so. So I wasn't massively surprised on Wednesday when it was announced to be honest with you. Obviously Tuesday during the England game we had the news break from Dominic King and I think Jay Beyr from the Telegraph and various other sources saying the deal had been agreed and signed so it was very literally for the entirety of Wednesday and Wednesday afternoon just waiting for the announcement so when it was announced there was sort of a sense of relief a little bit that it's now over and now we don't have to sit here and talk about 455 million different managers' names that were never coming to heaven in the first place but we're going to talk about them anyway because some journalists have said that they're on the list and obviously the fact that it's Rafa Benitez and his previous connections and this that and the other it's settled for me, I've digested it, I've sort of accepted it and now I'm just looking forward to the future, to be honest with you like I said I had my period of emotion and obviously Rafa Benitez wasn't my first choice, I've said that before he wasn't my first choice and I didn't believe he was the right man for the job but regardless of all of that he's now the Everton manager so I didn't even bored very clearly believe he is the right man for the job so like I said I went through all of those emotions a week and a half ago two weeks ago when we first heard Rafa Benitez's name thrown in the heart and we first heard of that everything we're talking to Rafa Benitez so when it was announced yesterday I'd already accepted it and digested it and was just sort of waiting for the announcement and obviously the other's first interview which was very positive said a lot of positive things, spoke very well, very intelligent man who speaks a lot of the right things doesn't he so I'm just looking forward to the future now I'm just looking forward to where Everton are going to be who Everton are going to sign as well we said a couple of weeks ago that get this manager stuff out the way and let's look at bringing him players so it doesn't matter whether it's Rafa Benitez, Carlo Ancelotti or somebody else managing this squad of players it's only so far you can go with a squad that isn't very good and there's only so far Rafa Benitez will be able to go with this squad he needs players to come in he needs reinforcements and hopefully Everton can focus on that now but now over all and he showed reactions yesterday we knew it was coming, we knew it was happening it's been announced, first interview was very good I think a lot of fans, it's settled with a lot of fans now there's a lot of fans that at the start were very against it and now it's sort of just like okay although it might be the first choice he's the Everton manager so we'll back it and we'll go with it How are you feeling now? Was there a change in emotion from a week and a half ago when it faced become apparent that Rafa Benitez could be the manager here to yesterday when he was announced or is it very much still the same feeling for you? So, I don't think Rafa Benitez would have been many of Everton fans' choices I think when it was the first the name was first thrown in the weeks ago I don't honestly said I don't know, I'd much rather have a potter I even said I'd much rather have Nuno at the time, I'd rather have Rafa Nuno now but it's happening now there's no point sitting there morning about it we've just got to get behind him like I've said many of times but you look at the positives now and to be fair the way I'm looking at it now we've got the situation with FFP and P&L we've got to sell players to go out and spend a lot of money there's not a lot we can do with our squad at the moment we've probably signed a good few players granted we get some players out the door like Samoys Keane at the moment they're trying to get it it looks like they're trying to get a loan deal if you can't sell him then keep him but at the moment it's not a buyer's market everyone's skinned so getting rid of the deadwood getting rid of some of these players that might get a bit of money in it's going to be really hard and we have to get rid of them to get plays in so the way I look at it which manager can come in and over it let's say overachieve do a good job with the squad that he's got now I look at potter he's going to take him a good few years to embed his philosophy and get the plays that suits his style of play I don't know whether we're patient enough I don't know whether he's got the mental strength he needs to put with our fans for a good few years while he builds what he needs to do I don't know the folks who have said he knows his squad and everything but he's going to be there anyway new knows the same sort of thing with potter he needs to come in and get his plays out of the door someone's being arrested outside but then I look at Raffer you look at what his achievers squad is in the past he's the probably we've played the 4-5-1 in the low block similar to what we've been playing last season you can do a good job of good plays if you can get the main obviously we've got the plays in there already so I look at Raffer Benita and think maybe he's the perfect manager coming right now and get some stability if there's anyone who can get it into Europe I think it can be Raffer with the squad we've got now because he's a let's face it and it's on paper he's a good manager he's a good coach whether we like him or not the Liverpool thing doesn't bother me I understand that it bothers other people I mean I assume that they're bothered by Gary Abliss and Kevin Sheedy and Alan Harper David Johnson also I don't see why maybe they didn't call it a small club but you know people say things though I think what we've seen a lot more of in the last 24-48 hours is people looking for the positives and that's right that's what we should be doing there's two ways you can go with this you can either back Raffer Benita's and back Everton or you don't back Raffer Benita's and back Everton and that opinion is completely up to everybody and completely up to any Evertonian and whatever people want to do is fine I will be completely back on Everton and completely back on the manager and completely back on the players and people are now with that starting to look for the positives and this is a guy who's won 13 trophies with his staff behind him in various different clubs he was asked wasn't he was put on the spot about the Liverpool connection in the interview yesterday and he was basically asked by the interviewer at Everton obviously you've got a connection with a club in this city and you've been successful with a club in this city how does this feel or something along those lines and he basically said and he listed the name of the cities that he's worked in before he said I've worked in Madrid, I've worked in Naples I've worked in Valencia, I've worked in Liverpool and instead of listing clubs he listed the cities in which he'd worked in and which he'd been successful in and of course he's being successful in Liverpool he won a Champions League it's not like this is a Liverpool manager who failed and was dreadful and now is the Everton manager and we're going well he's managed them and he didn't even do anything with them and he's done club football with our rivals now yes, that might have been nice and what he said about Everton might have been nice but he was a massive success there won an FA Cup as well there I think as well it was listening to Jamie Carragher Jamie Carragher's podcast today Jamie Carragher's podcast today with Andy Bain and when he said, Jamie Carragher said and then also some fans might go aww I'm not asked about what Jamie Carragher said is Jamie Carragher but he said the difference between Angelotti and Benitez Angelotti's won a lot of trophies in his career and I'm not trying to compare the two but Jamie Carragher said Angelotti won a lot of trophies with teams that were already ready made to win trophies teams that were full of superstars teams that were full of that mentality to go out and win and he just sort of came in and added this tactical sort of nuance there and went on to win the trophies there where Benitez has won trophies at clubs like Valencia who were having to battle with Real Madrid and Barcelona, Liverpool at the time win great, let's be honest the team that won the Champions League with Benitez was nowhere near as good as the team that followed it three or four years later but that team won nothing obviously in Napoli again fighting against the likes of Inter Milan Juventus won the Italian Cup over there so he's very clearly a good manager in fact he's a very good manager everybody you talk to that is supported the club Rafa Benitez has been at talks very highly of him, very few people other than Chelsea fans which is mad because he was successful at Chelsea very few fans of clubs he's managed that I've got a bad word to say about him, Newcastle fans won't have a bad word to add Demlot across the park won't have a bad word to add about him there's things in the media saying he's always the first in the sailing ground of the morning he's the last out, he's constantly working 24-7 he said it in his interview yesterday said the first thing he'd done when he came to Finch Farm was check the transfer targets and look at who we're going to get in he said I was actually looking at the transfer stuff this morning now this is a man who is probably his first time at Finch Farm we're known there's articles on the internet now saying that he's met with the owners on yachts and he's met abroad and he's had to quarantine and this that and the other this was the being the first time he was at Finch Farm you know he could have sat there all day and gone right I'm just going to bed myself in I'm going to meet the people out here and I'm going to find me offers and I'm going to sort everything in terms of paperwork and stuff and I'm just going to chill out for the first day it looks like and this is just me reading between the lines from his interview but it looks like he's come in and gone right who he's shining this summer where's the targets where's the plan where are we going and that's what we need we need some proactiveness we don't need another manager that's going to sit off and wait for things to come to him we need a manager that's going to go and get the things themselves and hopefully Rafa Benitez is that man but I keep saying it mate we all want the same thing don't we we all want Evanton to be a success and I can't subscribe to this one Evanton to fail because it's Rafa Benitez I hope Rafa Benitez wins us every possible trophy and I hope he's the most successful Evanton manager of all time because that would mean that he's the most successful Evanton manager of all time and whatever he's done with any other club them lot or anyone else I'm not bothered about what he's done with Evanton we wouldn't do it with Angelotti and go yeah but he was a what's he do at Real Madrid or what's he do at Chelsea or this that and the other and I get there's a rivalry and it's different and what he said about the football club I understand all of that but it was a long time ago and he's the Evanton manager now so what about that what he said about this the good thing in his interview he said whoever he's at he's back his club which is fine by me because we have our rivalries you want your manager to be passionate about your club don't you and go after your rival your rival clubs and challenge referee challenge the media something that we've not had for quite a while maybe even since David Moyes and David Moyes we loved him because he didn't challenge our own fans you know what I mean it was a passion yeah I suppose I suppose that's a good thing that was started choking then I get that some fans can't see through that and I understand it I understand the whole mentality of never forgetting we're not just going to put it to one side this that knew that and I get it and Rafa Benitez has come out by the way before today 18 months ago when obviously before Carlo Angelotti was employed when Marco Silva was sacked and Benitez wanted the job and a lot of other Tonyans wanted Benitez at that time Benitez has come out on Monday night football with Jamie Carragill and Gary Neville I think and said I didn't mean like that it was taken out of context it was taken out of the situation it meant something different and yet you might say oh that's just on Bach's acting because he wanted the job this that and the other but if Rafa Benitez wants the job because he believes he's the best man to take him forward and the ball believes he's the best man to take him forward and he believes Evan will be a success under him then you know why he allowed on a comment that happened 15 years ago to get in the way of that would we rather that and say well we're not going to bring Rafa Benitez in who could very literally win us trophies and turn Evan into a success because of what he said 15 years ago so we're bringing Eddie out because he's a blue and he might go the game every now and then and he loves Evan and even though he's nowhere near as good of a tactician as Rafa Benitez is and some would say was because he hasn't been there for years or whatever we'll bring him in because he's a blue and he hasn't said anything bad about Evan you want the best man for the job and the board clearly think that's Rafa Benitez fans might disagree I wasn't my first choice but ultimately the board have made the decision they feel is right I don't mind if fans disagree about it I still understand why some people might still be angry absolutely the worst thing is when you see people trying to force your opinion you're not allowed to like someone and then people trying to force their opinion on you you're not allowed to like it you're not allowed to support him I support Evan and we support you support Evan Managers and players aren't here forever like you said to the day it's the club's bigger than the manager and the club's always going to be bigger than the players absolutely and we'll always be here there's only one set of people that will be here with the club throughout and that's the fans the managers won't mind if Benitez will come and go Carlo Ancelotti will come and went a new manager will come and go or somebody else players will come and go whether you like it or not then we'll leave Evan at some point in his career, whether it be in the next 12 months or whether it be in 10 years time Lucadine will leave Evan Bengoff will leave Evan we will never leave Evan so we're the only group that will be throughout and I'm not going to let him manage early the appointment changed that for me and in fact I'm not even that angry about Benitez coming in I think he's a good manager and he could be the right man to take us forward now it's real he's got a scarf around his neck and being interviewed on the club, youtube or website whatever there's a bit of excitement in it and I thought I was not going to be great but if he comes in and does the best he can with a squad and grinds out results and gets us into Europe there's just a hopeful expectation then I'm happy and much rather that then at the moment I don't think the fans are quite ready and the fans would accept it a manager coming in spending three years and they're just crap because they're trying to embed his philosophy and his second age to get the plays in just come in and get some stability get us into Europe we'll improve the squad over time we'll get better because we know we're at raffa with a good squad and world class talent has got closer winning elite when he had the 09 like Torres and Gerard Chabielonzo they almost won the league didn't they between them and united so we know you have good players and world class players the football speaks for itself you play in the low block you'll see good football on the pitch because you've got good players I also think that's a really good point I think it's a key thing to remember is that look this summer transfer in those massive anyway we need reinforcements and we expect reinforcements we know Marcel Brands wasn't present at Finch Farm yesterday because he was quantitying after retaining home from the Netherlands he was in the Netherlands hello Denzel he was in the Netherlands to discuss potential transfer targets whether that's Denzel, Dumfries or not we cannot confirm because we don't know but maybe it seems like that would make sense hopefully it is because he's an absolutely brilliant player and it would make sense because Netherlands are now out of the Euro so I'm sure Denzel will have a bit of spare time on his hands but what we also shouldn't forget is that barring the reinforcements and hopefully we do bring in some good quality players young, hungry, athletic players that can improve the squad let's not forget that there's still a lot of players in the 7th squad that aren't good enough whether Rafa Benitez is managing them whether Carla Wengelotti is managing them or whether I'm managing them there's a lot of players that aren't good enough so if we don't necessarily bring in four, five, six players this summer because of FFP or we can't sell or whatever we'll use a game next season and you're having to bring on Gomez or a Wobie let's remember before we go straight and again I'm not telling anybody how to feel but personally for me before I go straight into that oh my god it's Benitez he's dreadful I'll be thinking actually do you know what this is happening under Ancelotti, this is happening under any manager because we've still got the core problem of the squad not being good enough and not having enough quality in it hopefully we're not in that situation because hopefully we go out and sign a few boss players and we don't need to rely on the same players that we know aren't good enough but that's one thing I would say is that there's still a squad of players here and there's still names within that squad that aren't good enough and won't be good enough under Rafa Benitez let's be honest won't be good enough under Rafa Benitez and we need to remember that for me With the squad we've got obviously with the new manager could you get a new manager if you didn't know? Who's that? That's us What's a realistic What's a realistic expectation for Everton this season? It's really difficult to answer mate it really is difficult to answer because we haven't signed a player If you were to say to me now Cam Rafa Benitez is in and Everton aren't signed anybody not selling anybody this is the squad going into next season I wouldn't expect anything higher than 8th maybe 7th with push with some unbelievable management Do you think with less points than last season or with more? It's difficult isn't it because we're probably going to have a lot more games at home in front of fans this season hopefully every game at home is in front of fans but that overworks with away fans so it's difficult to say but I don't expect Everton to do anything this season until we're sitting here on the final day of the time to a window or on day one of the season and we've signed four or five really good really exciting players that we know will improve Everton that's when I'll say do you know what the expectation might be a cup the expectation might be a European finish at the moment we can't just look at Rafa and go write the expectations champions league forget champions league forget top four forget any of that for the moment Rafa stands on the sideline he gives tactics out and yes those tactics are very important but once those players cross that line it's those players that are scoring the goals it's those players that are defending the goal playing the nice football or making the right decisions and wrong decisions or having the ability to make those decisions and you know follow through with them so for me it's a difficult question to answer until we actually start to see some sanctuary business but I would hope that the ambition is to push Benita said that himself didn't even answer yesterday he said I'm not here to compete I'm here to win I'm here to win as many games of football as I can for Everton I don't just want to be there floating about competitive I want to be there in the state in the term of competitiveness which means winning games of football and challenging at you know at those top levels of the league these aren't about transfer isn't Messi a free agent he is so he's had Messi on the deadline today imagine it do you think he'll resign at Barcelona not least his statements out there imagine there'd be a lot more drama if he did that to leave I read yesterday that he was in advanced talks to sign a new contract and I think obviously he legally I don't know if it's legally but he is a free agent on the basis that the date the release date or the final date of contracts has passed and he hasn't got a contract but he's not a free agent in terms of that Barcelona of I know literally they've released them because of the way things were in football but it's not like they've said we don't want you anymore you're getting off it's not like Messi said I'm not signing a new contract I'm not going to leave Barcelona so although he is a free agent by the definition of the term he isn't a free agent in terms of that he's not completely walking away from Barcelona it looks like he'll sign again with Barcelona but listen anything can happen in football mate anything can happen in Manchester City he might go in there now phone his agents and go before you sign that contract you're a free agent we'll give you 10 million agent free signing on we'll give Lionel 25 million signing on and we'll pay him 400 grand a week is that likely to happen? probably not forget about Man City can you see Lionel Messi signing forever's in football? no to be honest Ned sorry everybody that's watching my disappointment is a measurement of all my days we haven't got the finances to fund Lionel Messi and let's be honest we haven't got the ambition to fund Lionel Messi but even in the Manchester City might have the ambition to fund Lionel Messi either so we run a 5k 5k for Messi let's do it raised one for Lionel Messi I just give him page to sign Lionel Messi I think you'll probably get maybe I don't know is to sign sport from is out in Crossby to Finch Farm probably that's it is expensive not more than it you'll probably stay a parcel on I have my own personal thoughts and opinions on Lionel Messi Ronaldo's better than a buddy I like Ronaldo's I like Ronaldo's dedication to do it in different ways we'll save that for the chat in one podcast there you go join us for a chat in one with Ned and Cam coming very soon oh my god you're not going to do a chat of the boxing match like the youtuber one, Messi vs Ronaldo do you have everyone boxing nowadays you could do that then you could do Gomez vs Floyd Mayweather or someone like that I wouldn't wish pain upon Gomez no obviously no but Floyd Mayweather doesn't really just pain no go post it up exactly that's enough let's move on obviously another big thing that's been going on maybe why Everton waited to announce Rafa as long as he did obviously your old 2020 2021 obviously and you just beat Germany 2-0 just two nights ago you've got a real good obviously they play Ukraine in the quarters if they win that they play Denmark or Czech Republic in the semi and then it might be probably Spain, Belgium Italy Switzerland Spain vs Switzerland it's got a good chance to win it obviously Belgium got a couple injuries Italy were really shaking Austria were to be honest battling until late stage of the second half do you think England can go on and win this Euro I think they can do you think they will is a different question it's wrong as they hold and give but do it at the right time but they have to be slow or fast they must get to the line they ain't no hooligans they'll always hit you and hurt you that's it that's it with three lines on our chest they can't there's only one way to defeat them oh gotta get round the back get round the back no I think they can do you think they will is another question I think to be honest if I'm being perfectly honest without being too negative I think Gareth Southgate's lack of managerial experience and nuance will fall short for England Jack Reeler still is yet to start should have started the other day didn't start come on and made the difference obviously and he should have been on from minute one obviously the exclusion of Dominic Calvert-Lewin doesn't sit right with us Evertonians and let's be honest take away the fact that he plays for Everton why Dominic Calvert-Lewin isn't in that match they scored is absolutely beyond me because he is the best replacement for Harry Kane and Harry Kane has looked let's be honest dreadful for the entire tournament yes he scored the other day and it was a decent head there but he's been dreadful he's been absolutely dreadful because he's not fit he shouldn't have played as many minutes as he has played and he'll probably play again on Saturday night look you've got to beat Ukraine, they're a decent side they're a sad that way card my worry is the next stage which would be the semis I think Denmark are a very united side they work for each other, they fight for each other they battle obviously they're the real underdogs in this tournament I feel like that everybody's sort of second team with obviously what happened early on in the tournament with Christian Ericsson and since then they've been brilliant, they've been absolutely brilliant the fight they've showed, the quality they've showed the ability they've showed on the ball they look like a very, very good team and a question where they're a team with that amount of togetherness and that amount of fight and that amount of determination will be too much for them obviously England have got a better quality of play than Denmark as England have got a better quality of play than every team we will come up against now until the final but it's not just about the quality of play it's about the decisions the manager makes it's about the way in which we perform obviously we've seen that other than the game against Germany it's not being very good to watch it's being quite boring I think Raheem Staelin scored every goal Even the game against Germany Yeah I get it, it was great I suppose in the end it was the you could say it was the right line up it was really, because we won two in a and obviously Grealish made a massive difference but we defended well obviously Germany missed the chances Jordan picked it by the way it was a hero played at the tournament mate If we win the Euro 2018 it's because of Jordan He's played at the tournament for England and for everybody and no one will be able to tell me the difference there's not one player who's shown more than Jordan We'd have lost against Scotland We'd have pulled one back the other night at least one and then the pressure's on so yeah it would have been 1-1 They could have been 1-0 so now he's played at the tournament Absolutely, I don't want to wait Now there's been very good performers there has in various other countries but none more so than Jordan Pickford Jordan Pickford is the best player in the world He is It's national Forget Messi and where Messi is going to go You've got Jordan Pickford but Jordan does me editing though mate and it really does This is that typical The agenda against Everton It is, but it's that typical emotion of Evertonians Someone fart on the other side of the room because they've got a different photo kit on Why are you farting? You just hate Everton or something because you're farting on the other side of the room What's going on? What are you doing? But it is that typical emotion but it does do me editing the way Jordan Pickford is a different player in Everton Gary Neville said it on Twitter the other day Gary Neville said Jordan Pickford played at the tournament and he agreed with everything he said and the last sentence was like Gary you've ruined it You've gone right up here It's been brilliant this year I can't remember watching an Everton game on Sky that Gary Neville wasn't commenting on He has watched Everton multiple times in 2021 Jordan Pickford barred in a penalty against Chelsea which he gave away Jordan Pickford hasn't put a foot o hand wrong in 2021 So for Gary Neville to come out and say he's a completely different player in an England shade is wrong If he was to say he's a completely different player this turn of the year I'd say absolutely He has been a completely different player in 2021 but he's been a completely different player for Everton and England He was our best player for the last four or five months of the season No doubt, no question about it So it does infuriate me because it's this whole world cup thing he's great in a world cup and he's awful with England and like I said can you believe and I couldn't believe this anyway but can you believe there is a selection of England fans or other football fans that seriously wanted like Adam Ramsdale in over him or like Nick Poppin or Dean Enderson over Jordan Pickford and you're mad Exactly, Nick Popp couldn't lace Jordan Pickford's boots injured or not and neither could Dean Enderson and that blurt at the telegraph the editor or whatever Do me a favour, you're having a laugh former Sunderland player get lost He may as well have said he played 35 games for Sunderland he played more games than he did at Sunderland he never missed a competitive Premier League game for Everton until last season he played three seasons consistently and maybe, maybe that's part and parcel of the reasons why he's formed a little bit because he was never out, he never got a rest he was there constantly but he may as well have said former Spam Jordan Pickford or former so and so high school former diaper wearers former baby food eater Jordan Pickford is shining for England why is he ex Sunderland why couldn't it just be couldn't Everton player because a guarantee if he played for Man United or Man City or Liverpool it would be Liverpool star Jordan Pickford it's a nonsense former Liverpool player but do you know why they do it though because they know we get wound up as a family they do it if the telegraph was a telegraph whoever it was the put out an article saying Everton star Jordan Pickford shines for England we'd all read it and go yeah he does he's right might give a little re-tweet because it says former Sunderland player we're all jumping on it we're fuming what happened at Garwin yes so we should we absolutely should because it's an agenda but it's an agenda that the media run with because they know it's gonna spark clicks they know it's gonna spark discussion they know it's gonna spark controversy and they know now that the telegraph and Matlow knows now that loads more people are gonna go and read that article because people are gonna go what he said former Sunderland player google it let's have a little look how yet he's ready they don't care whether people read the entire article or they care about if someone's clicked on it and gone and give them a view so they're very clever in the way in which they do it and they know why they do it but you're right we should be fuming because it is an agenda after that other is clueless journalist I swear if I if I wasn't a football fan if I wasn't a football fan if I wasn't a football fan and I wasn't an Everton fan and I just created a Twitter account for the euros and followed England I wouldn't think Jordan Pickford had the club I'd think that Jadon Sancho was on the way to Man United I think that Stalen played for City I think that Anderson played for Liverpool I think that Maguire played for United I think that Jordan Pickford just was a brachio and played for England every week that was it because I haven't been mentioned once other than by Everton media and Everton fans it's Jordan Pickford England and that's fine because he's playing for England now but remember that when the same arts the same Twitter accounts and the same papers and the same journalists are slainting him when he makes one mistake for Everton next season this is your national hero he saves you in a semi-final of a whale cup and he saves you in this euro so far if I didn't understand football or understand goalkeepers I'm really not a basics and I didn't watch Jordan Pickford just from listening to Lee Dixon I'd have assumed that he's the worst goalkeeper on the planet Jordan Pickford dives makes a save, Lee Dixon I think he dove a bit too late there well if he dove any earlier the goal would have gone in the net he'll save a winning penalty in the final of the euros to winning for England or he'll save 4 out of 5 and Dixon will go expected 5 out of 5 or why couldn't he save that penalty earlier on and we'd have won this earlier on I think Jordan Pickford has done something to Lee Dixon in his past life I don't know, maybe I think he's done something to his obtaining form and that's growing his hair every time he's had that haircut he's just been amazing absolutely amazing so if you're watching Jordan which you're probably not but if you're all watching don't cut your hair keep it long the scruffy haircut in the Derby in February was February wasn't it the scruffy haircut was like you look like a bricklayer playing like a bricklayer proper but he's a great goalkeeper matey and we've known this as Evertonians for a long time and certainly in the last 6 months that's been proven look if to me you don't want to acknowledge where he plays and some fans want to get it cos they will, there'll be fans that are loving him now and that'll be on his back hole laughing at him in 3 weeks time and that's why I it's part and part of the reason as to why I haven't got a massive emotional connection with England, I want England to win I'm not one of these uber people that are like wanting teams that are playing England to win so England don't win or wanting England to lose but I just haven't got as amount I have got no more emotion in me to give to any other football and establishment that's not everything football club I cannot have that same emotional connection I'm happy when England win, I want England to win I want them to do well and I want them to win it I can't lie, I'm not that assed I'm really not and that's not because I'm an uber against England or I'm uber against this scouting in English or that rubbish it's not that, I just haven't got the emotion in me to give to anyone else that's not evident and some people are different and that's fine but I've just enjoyed watching the Euros for enjoying watching the Euros so there's some football that we don't have some of the drama has been France and Switzerland Croatia Paul de Batta 4 amazing Do you know what would have been even better by the way if Everton wouldn't have been in the stage for the manager for the last four weeks and we could have actually had four weeks of watching the Euros and very little Everton news coming out so we could just sit here and go let's talk about Ben Goffy today let's talk about Calvert Lewin I think we would have been stuck with videos to be honest we would have been sat here watching football in terms of being able to enjoy at least now that's what we can do we can enjoy the final four rounds I've had a great week mate I've had a great week I've passed my theory on Monday and then it was I missed the Switzerland spring game no thank you very much my brother I did miss the Switzerland spring game but I got home for the France no I missed the Croatia spring game but I got home for France, Switzerland unbelievable then we get to Tuesday we've got a manager, happy he's a winner happy that we're going to be a success happy that we'll win the Champions League next season even though we're not in it England they're going for it if we have Madrid, Barclon or Juventus in it then we can win it we didn't try to destroy football anyway we'll leave it there just a bit of a short podcast just a bit of catching my things not really much to talk about it's been all quiet really on the Everton front there's not much news the big discussion point is Rafa Benitez Hammers has been rumored away a couple of times but let's be honest no one's surprised Moise Keane is probably going to go off on load again because nobody knows what they're doing I hope not because there's literally no point if you can't sell him then keep him because we've got no backup striker you can play wide not greatly up to now we're up with Thursday to day Moise Keane should be at and will be at USM Finchfarm on Monday because he's an Everton player he's contacted to Everton and that's when those Everton players that didn't go away with their international countries for the Euros or for the South for the Cobb in America that's when they drew back a Finchfarm so Hammers, Rodriguez, Moise Keane you should see them back at Finchfarm on Monday whether you see pitches of them shared might be a different question because they might ask for pitches not to be shared then they've breached the concert exactly and we'll take the £45m give it to Denzel anyway there you go, thanks for listening to the Everton podcast it's been a nice little chat we've not done it for a while me and Cam are actually thinking of doing a bit for a Ned Cam channel just like doing none of the Everton related stuff just like muck bangs and a podcast called chatting mam and Ned and Cam and just playing like a brand new game so let us know what you'd like to see on that channel if we go ahead and do it we're thinking about it there you go, thanks for watching if you want 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