 Welcome. This is either the really late or the really early or the in between show I think for everybody. Hillary and I were talking about how some are going to bed after this and some are right in the middle and I think some are just now waking up and getting ready to start the second day of the Connectathon. So welcome everybody. We've got a full house in here as well. Start letting us know what team you're on. Type in your team name and let us know. And while you guys also do that, we're going to talk a little bit about stats today and we're going to show two quick tips. I want to let everybody know that I'm filling in for Alish. I am not good at stats, so don't expect Alish out of me. He will be back tomorrow and the next day as well. So let us know. And we've got a lot of people. So we've got a lot of super Aussie genies in the house. So Northwest Terriers as well, Legacy Hares, the Southern Cross Stars, and Mighty Oaks is in the house. Kiwi Crew, the Tavelin tortoises are representing. So we've got quite a bit. We've got somebody from France too. Woke up an hour ago. You're ready to go. Okay, let me tell you guys too. If you do not know, if this is your first time at the Hangout, I'm going to tell you guys a word to type. You're going to type it. It can be capitalized or in a sentence, however you want to do it, it is cousins. And when you type that word, we will do a prize drawing at the end of the show. So type the word cousins. It is plural. And let's see how many we can get. So we have to find out what the prize is. The prize, I do not. I do not. It's a surprise prize. Oh, okay. It's a surprise prize. So what have you guys been working on? What have you guys been doing? I know, Hillary, you guys have been working on a lot of things behind the scenes, cleaning up and doing a whole bunch of things with profiles and from the whales too. Yeah, my team decided not to join the thumb this time. So we are doing some cleaning up of the whales profiles, cleaning up the jet coms and doing some sourcing and generally tidying up things that may be connected to the whales project. So very worthy. Like my son's teacher used to say, do worthy work, worthy work in, that's worthy work. Kathy, what do you work in on? I don't know. I'm all over the place. Yeah. Now I left Darren and David to the last because you two are kind of working together on something really cool, right? Well, our whole team is. Yeah. Yeah. What team? The Globe Trotters. Globe Trotters. Yeah, we are trying to make at least one connection for every one of our global countries. And that's been interesting. I got distracted because while I was doing Indora, I came across a murder. Oh. Yeah. And I wound up spending too much time reading and not making profiles. Beyond 1830 Baroness who had a stalker. Oh, really? When they found out, they shipped him off to Galatia. He was in Spain. And but before he went, he hid in the bushes and she went to go to the theater. He jumped out and murdered her. What year was this around? 1830s, I think. Wow. Well, I'm kind of impressive that you're researching that part back as well. You know. And then her husband, like two months later, got remarried so he wouldn't mourn for a long time. No, no. And it looks like Robert was saying that the Swedish archives, unreachable, the whole weekend, that should not happen on a thawing weekend. That's terrible. Hang in there. Hang in there. They will go fix it sooner than later. Seems to happen like everywhere. It's like, like, museum, their beating, our beating, so it goes down. I've heard it, that it happens in the, for Australian sites. And I was going to say, too, I know that family search, they always do an update. You know, I guess Saturday, early Sunday, depending where you are. And most of the time, we survive it. It's really quick. It's really easy sometimes. So I think it was like last year, it was down for quite a bit. And I want to let everybody know that I put guess the connectathon total in the chat. Go up and put your vote in. And Darren is go over some stats to help us kind of understand what these divisions are, what's going on. We have something called divisions. So let's see if we can figure out the divisions and also what the number for the chat is. But I do need to tell you that if you are interested on guessing the total, definitely be here this time tomorrow because the LESH is much better at this than I am. Okay, Darren, let's talk a little bit about these hats. And what in the world are divisions? Well, a base thing means that we're not just saying Appalachia winning everything. So, so it's divided. We've divided the, oh, sorry. Sorry, I think I'm new to myself. We've divided the teams have divided into three groups. So the vision one is the smallest amount of people in the group. The vision two is sort of the medium groups. And then the vision three is the super groups. The ones that have got some, quite a lot of people. And I should mention too, you might see a couple of new teams here as you're looking at the screen. And for example, Newt A and Newt B, the reason why there's an A and B is because if you reach signups for your particular THON team at 50, once you get to 51, Wiki Tree asks you to split your team just to make it fair for everybody. So one team had 75 and everybody else had 40 that doesn't quite equal it out and make it fair. So that's why you see two new teams that are there and also great guardians. They're new and they're in the larger team as well. So where would you like me to start? Would you like to start at the smaller team? Yeah, we'll start at the smaller team. Okay, so the smaller team and Kathy, look. Sorry, I keep on having wrongs. Oh, you've got 17 teams in the vision one. And you've got the flying Dutchman, who's the second place there. There's 797 profiles for that team, pretty good. And Team Italy, 860 profiles. So you can see by the spread that the teams and the vision minus sort of evenly splurge. And you've got quite a few teams that are higher than other divisions, but it's equal in these teams. If Friday, when the thong starts, a lot of people are still at work. So these numbers will get much interesting tomorrow on the weekend. Some of you are ready tomorrow. I guess we all are pretty much. Kathy, are you tomorrow already? Yes. I think you're the only one in our group that's the furthest back on the time zone. And then division two was kind of in between, right, Darren? Kind of in between the really big and the smaller. Yes, so the budget two is, I only got 12 teams this time, so I'm not sure why we've got 17 in the budget one and 12 in the other two divisions. You've got Kiwi crew, 957. So getting close to the past 1000, yeah, that's pretty good. And sort of most of Kiwi crew sort of got to be ending the day because eight o'clock here in New Zealand. And then you've got the Germany genies at 1,580. And they're just starting their day. Yeah, they're starting the day. Okay, then as we come up to the larger group, so this is gonna be the more team mates per group for I think they started about 26 members and go up to 50. Yeah, thank you. So you've got some new groups in there like the Grave Guardians and the new teams. Most of these teams have sort of been around a lot, quite a few times, a few times and they know how to do this stuff. So second place, you've got Marty Oates at 2,238. And then of course, Appalachia Bruce, question biscuits, you've got 5,340. Few of us have not slept yet. We're still going to, but the question came earlier, what are the divisions, what are they about? And basically you're looking at size, each team, each division, excuse me, has a different size. So division one has less members in their team. Division two is kind of the middle ground and then division three is the larger groups. When a team gets 50 sign ups, if they get to 51, then they split and that's why you see new A and new B, the new team. And you can win, each division winner gets the winner badge for their profiles. So that kind of talks about the stats there and we are now up to 27,672 profiles. So that's pretty good. I know everybody's going to ask me how we were doing this time last year and I've got an answer for you. I'm not sure, but I know a rash. We'll know tomorrow that I do know. But a few people were asking what the total was last year in the total last year was 98,937. So I'm going to ask everybody that's in chat and everybody that's here with me, are we going to do it? Are we going to break the 100 mark? What do you guys think? No idea. No idea. I'm wondering if we've ever gone down, have we ever had a total that was lower than the time before? I shouldn't say ever because it was a long time ago. Yeah, I think it has happened. Does it happen? Yeah, I think so. So we got a lot of answers here. It's kind of a mixed bag, what everybody thinks. And thank you, Kathy, for putting this up. This kind of talks about the team size that we have and explains it a little bit more. Okay, so I'm going to leave it up to Alish to kind of bring this into perspective tomorrow. Remember, he's going to be back at the 4 a.m. slot for the next two 4 a.m. slots. But I think, why don't we go over quickly? The word again is cousins, plural. So if you want to be in the drawing for the prize, then type in cousins. If you have won a prize in the past six months from Winky Tree and that includes Arbingo that David and I do, you are not eligible to win again. So it's like a six month break that you take from playing for the prizes. And that's just to keep it fair. So everybody gets a chance to win a prize. Now, how would you guys like to see some new things that have been going on behind the scenes that the developers have been doing? I have two new tricks to show you guys that are kind of interesting. And if you are part of the connectors project, you already know this one, that's right. I know, Darren, I gotta tell you, if you're part of the connectors project is fantastic because Darren's in connectors discord a lot showing people how to connect. And also we see a lot of connections that people will put up. So if you're doing the connectors project, it's really fascinating to see the work that everybody does. Okay, does everybody see what I call the little orange puzzle man up here? That used to be only if you were part of the connectors project. And now Ian has given it to everybody. And what does that mean? If you see this little puzzle man and you gotta actually go into your wiki tree browser extension options to turn it on. But if you see the puzzle man, that means this is not connected to the big tree. And I'll show you real quick. If you go up to your wiki tree browser extension and you're gonna go down to profile. And if you don't remember this, just look through your options and look for connector jigsaw puzzle symbol as used by connectors and just turn it on. And then that way you'll see the orange man. Now, here's something Darren, I think we should let everybody know. Let's say that you're working on this particular profile and you connect them to the big tree in the next five minutes. That puzzle man is still gonna stay. Yeah. And about how long does he stay? It's really hard to say because I always tell people overnight because where I am, it's almost overnight. But where you are, you probably see it at a different time. It might be during the day. I think it's usually about 10 o'clock in the morning. For you. At all late. I haven't actually sort of paid much attention to it. Because I use one of the other methods to say you have a profile connected. It just remember, so if you connect to the big tree in the next five minutes, the puzzle man will still stay there. It takes a while because what happens is when a less runs the reports overnight in the database does its run, then it checks and looks at what's connected along with a lot of other things, categories, CC seven, things like that, errors. And then this puzzle man will disappear. But in theory, if you see it, chances are it is not connected to the big tree. Now, another thing that I wanna show you that's really cool and this one is really branded. The puzzle man's about a month old for everybody to get it. But the next one is how many times have you created a profile from scratch and you save it? Then you gotta go back into the profile because you wanna add a category, say the location or something like that. Now you can do the category as you're creating the profile. So I'm just going to go and say add sibling. Let me come up and use my sorcerer and save the person's data. And I'm gonna come over here and dump the data here. But look what we got, this new little box. So before we wouldn't be able to put the categories here. Most of us recognize that you put the categories above the biography and you have those little boxes that you can search by. Well, now you have this. So let me go ahead and put the location of this person's death. Whoops. And there it is. So all I gotta do, it pops up. I just click on it. It automatically puts it above the biography because that's where categories go. And then if everything looks good, you can continue and you double check for duplicates. I've already done that. So none of these come over to your new profile and you have your category. Pretty cool. So you can do everything. You can do locations if you know their occupation. You can do that. If you know there's cemetery, you could add there's Simcat right there as you're creating. And instead of having to create, come back, go back into the edit screen and type everything in there. So pretty quick and easy. And I will tell you that the person who created that is in the chat. That's Flo who did that. Ian did the Puzzle Man and Flo did the category. So thanks so much. And I should mention as well, I'm sorry Flo, your arrow keys. So if you don't want to use your mouse and you like using your keyboard, you can also use the arrow keys for that. And thanks Shonda. The category edition is great. It's been adding the infant mortality categories as in terms of the profile. So that's a little way that you can enter different types of categories. What do you guys generally enter for categories? Do you enter the cemeteries? Do you enter the locations? Locations normally for birth at least. I've been updating some things recently and I've just used the auto categories for it. Because once you put the categories in, once you put the locations in, it will find the main locations in the birth and the death and the marriage ones it'll find. Well, Hillary, now I'm going to ask you a question because I know that you're sitting in Wales right now. And for the location category for Wales, are they really this long? I mean, do they really, I mean, locate the letters in a town name in Wales? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you get the longest name in one, if you're local, you just shorten it to slunfair PG because it's just so much easier than slunfair the whole thing. There are long places. There are long places, you know. Well, I mean, put it this way. If you put the full address, if you put the full location name in full the village where I live, you've got three words just in that first part of the location. And then you've got the county and the country and the fact that we're in the UK if you want to add the UK after 1801. But we get a lot of problems with the locations. That's what I was gonna ask. I mean, I can imagine your cleanup that you're doing even now is sometimes a lot when putting in those locations. I know that a couple of people do migration as well, categories if they are going from one location to another. Kathy, I can see you guys using that a lot in Italy and looking at they are immigrated so they migrate one. Yeah, Italy's locations are interesting. I can never remember. So I kind of stay away from those profiles. I work on the English ones. And my little spiel for like new people, when you're putting the location in the birth marriage and death field, write out the whole location, but do not put, they died in a cemetery or they died in a hospital or they were born at the hospital. In the US it would be like town, county, state and country. If it's after 1776, England is UK or United Kingdom after 1801. Northern Ireland after 1901. 1901, is it four? 21 or 22? I should know that. I keep doing the suggestions on that. I was just forming 21 that the suggestion cut self-hatch. All right, that's usually correct, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, Darren, we have a challenge for you. Yeah. I've been through there. Pretty sure it's in the Hawkes Bay, but I cannot pronounce it at all. I'm not even gonna cry. So this is just right around the corner from you, right? No. Yeah, it's in a different island. I have been there. Well, I'm pretty sure I've been there. Is that an island that you're working on with the Global Project? Well, it's in the North Island of New Zealand in the Hawkes Bay region, if I'm remembering correctly. Yeah, actually New Zealand's not part of Global. They have their own project. Oh, that's right. That's right. So Darren, you're working on a lot of islands though, right, for the Global? Yeah. I've got quite a few islands and yeah, a lot of the profile names and location names. They're interesting to think about and you have to think about if you're spelling it correctly. And Darren, Ruth would like to know, where is it, the long name place? Joku, you're going to have to tell us where, or how you found that record too. That would be interesting. Yeah, I'll see if I can get there. Where is it? Yeah, it's a hill in Southern Hawkes Bay. But is it in Wiki Street? Is it? I don't think so. But it's sort of well on the Wabwabs. Sorry. So, did you just type it into your search engine? My copy paste. Oh. Yeah. Miss, can I? Now, I'm curious, has anybody given yourself a goal of how many profiles you will do during this Connectathon? I have not. My main purpose was just to enter a large amount of DNA cousin bait. And however far I get with that, and it's mostly last name and location I'm looking at from a Texas group of individuals. So that was my main goal. And I don't know how many there are. So that's how come I don't have a number. But what about you guys? Do you guys have a number that you're looking at? Or are you looking at just a particular location, a family line? CC7, who's working on their CC7? No. Sorry. Yeah, I'm a little all over the place this time. Yeah, I always used to be all over the place. I used to do something, and then I thought, oh, my god. I'll answer your challenge, I'll do something different. Sometimes it was CC7, sometimes it was. But I haven't got a lot to add to my CC7. And then sometimes it was I was doing something on helping out on, I tend to go and add things. Because if I've updated a profile, and there's obviously family members missing, and put the census on there, I'll go and add it to the category that needs profiles creating for that county or whatever. Because most of my works in England and Wales. And then either I can update it, or if somebody else is working on it in the connected film, they can update it, because they can find it easily in that category. That's a good point. And you mentioned they can find it easy in that category. So categories are important to profiles. Somebody asked, why do I really need them, or why they are important? And I think of them as file folders. You can put the profile in a bunch of different file folders, and people can find them. But somebody said they like to put as many categories as appropriate, because they use Wiki Tree Plus to try and find them as well. And I hadn't thought about that. So that was a good idea too. And I really, I like this as well, trying to hold villages in my one place study project. And I love the one place study project. So that's a really good idea to get them in. Because once you get a person in, chances are from that whole village, you're easily adding families, and then neighbors, and so on. And I agree. I feel so bad for you, Rob. It's really hard when the archive's down. That's a struggle. How many people are using their cell phone to thon? Daphne and I were talking about this earlier. I only know one person that's ever done that. I did it the very first course of thon, but that's it. And that was the tiny phones that they had then. But I feel for you, if you're using your phone and trying to source, or trying to add and source and connect, I feel for you, because that's got to be tough. We were talking today, how many, you speak, if you're doing it by your phone, now it's how many monitors do you have? I have two monitors! Yes, I made it. I agree, you got to have something bigger than the phone to do that. You can't use things like the source if you're going to use it. And the source is so good for helping to add things and add people. You know, if you're adding sensors, information, it's just straight in easy. It really is. It gives us a little bit of a biography as well. Or you can use the Wikitree browser extension auto bio, but the source, you're right, Hilary. It just gives us the sources. The only thing that I have, I'm curious to see Darren and Hilary and everybody in chat that's not in the United States, or if you have the same problem. If you do happen to use FamilySearch for your location, does FamilySearch give you about 50 marriage sources? Because in the United States, they give us so many marriage sources, we have to delete them out. But do you guys in your archives find a source? They duplicate so much? The trouble is that they've got a transcription that they've got out there. And then they might have a link to the archive. I find, like, that they'll have a transcription that somebody's done in the past. And then they might have the county archive. They might have a link from that. So sometimes you will get, if you just use the build-all citations, you will get more than one. And sometimes I just end up deleting the ones. Just put the important one, like the archive, because that's the place. If I really wasn't able to get a hold of something online, that's the place I'd go to. That makes sense. And I think that's what we end up doing, deleting the 49 out of the 15. And they want to make so many, but we're getting out of it. It gets interesting. What about you, Darren? Well, if I'm getting it from a FamilySearch profile, I've got to check it to see whether or not people have added the ancestry.com sources to the FamilySearch profile as well. And sometimes you get duplicates with that. But if I'm doing just, like, BDMs, I'd just use the regulatory book B and it's set up to pick up the details from the New Zealand BDM. And this is interesting. They use FamilySearch for the actual records, not their profiles. And that makes sense. And then somebody else barely uses FamilySearch. And I don't really know. It has FamilySearch, has become very annoying with the need to constantly log back in. That has been something that's just annoying. And in Australia, the grave records are duplicated. That's interesting. There. So it looks like FamilySearch and others' archives are, they have their pluses and their minuses as they go through it. Well, I think we should talk about the prize giveaway. So if you have not typed in the word cousins yet, please type it in and we're going to do the giveaway. Let me share my screen real quick. And the prize will be a surprise. Anyone will get in touch with you and she'll let you know what the prize is. So here we go. You guys ready? Let's see it, let's see it, let's see it, let's see it. Oh, there it is. And she just put it on too. She's on the tortoises, I believe. And guess what? She's also in Appalachian. But we have found, so don't think we're an exclusive bunch. We have found that you give us somebody and we can probably find an Appalachian in your family, that one. So congratulations Susan, anyone will be in touch with you and anybody have anything left to talk about? Anything you want to mention or say? Well, I've got a challenge for you. An Appalachian connected to me. I knew you were going to say that. We are, we're going to talk about that in the connectors discord. I was going to say wait till after the thaw and she'll find one for you. A little known Australian, I believe that was. That went over there. That nobody knows about. And I came back and I will tell you that if anybody is participating in the rock this month, there are five that need rock. So after this, if you're enjoying the connecting and the adding profiles, definitely look at the rock. And I have found, this is the first time that I really, really tried, but all five of the rocks of Appalachian in there. And some of them are from Kathy's era, way up in New York. So that was kind of an interesting find as well. But otherwise, everybody, thank you so much for watching. If you watch live, thank you for participating. If you're watching this after the fact, we appreciate you watching as well. Have a very good couple of hours and go ahead and put those connections in. Let's see what the numbers are. We were at 27, almost 28,000. And the next hangout will be in about three and a half hours. So thanks everybody for joining us. Bye, everybody. Bye.