 I mean, I listen to Crystal and Kara's and I listen to Crystal Swirls. I'm more kind of like on this side, you know, and even you. That's fine, but the things you've said about me, you've been very insulting, ma'am. And do you even watch my content or do you listen to what other people say? Yeah, I listen to what some of the other women said about you on the platform. So is and you think that's appropriate? I don't think it's appropriate, no, but honest, I do kind of agree of where they're coming from because they tell black women to open up their options. And I think on this channel, I just don't think it's realistic. Some of the stuff you say, hold on, hold on, hold on, what you're about to say. You don't watch my content. You don't talk about I do watch your content, ma'am. I've listened to the things you said on platforms and you've been outright lying about me. You watch Crystal Swirls. That's fine. You are Crystal and Kara's and it's fine. What. So do I tell? What do I tell black women about their options? I mean, kind of what they said, you make it seem like the only options that black women have is black men, which we're absolutely wrong. It just shows you don't watch my. No, that just shows you don't watch my content. Absolutely 100 percent false. Ma'am, just say, just say you don't like black men. You have an issue with black men. Don't lie and say that I said something I didn't say. No, and I'm not. But even you said if every black man got married, it was to be 10 million black women left. I mean, let's just be realistic. Is that a no, no, no, no, no, let's be realistic. If every if every man got if every man got married, if every got if every man got married, there would only be. There would still be unmarried women. There's not enough women for men, period. I agree with that. And that's with every race. And then when you when you say, you know, black women have to be a size four and size six, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to stick on this black woman in our options thing. Tell me why I said black women's only option to black men. Tell me where I've said that. You could be because you never talked about interracial. They tell me why I said that. No, no, no, no, no, I have not said that. And one of the facts I said, I don't care who you date, date the best of whatever you can get. You're wrong. You're outright wrong. But that doesn't matter. I'm sitting here telling you you're wrong. I'm asking you to tell me why I said it. And you can't even be woman enough to say, you know what? I'm sorry, sir. I did not listen to your content. And you telling me I said something I didn't, and you can't prove it because I didn't say it. You don't have to be angry at me. Why are you so... I know I'm very angry when black women like you decide to go around and lie on a black man like myself. That's why you came over to Obsidian's channel to defend Crystal Swirls and then Crystal and Karrison for their attacks. I like Crystal Swirls because I think Crystal Swirls is... I don't care what Crystal Swirls does. Crystal Swirls has come over to my channel and I said let her rock out and say what she want to. She was a block, she could say what she want to. Crystal and Karrison came over here and was treated with nothing but respect. I even gave her a wrench. Ma'am, you're simply wrong. You don't know me. You don't watch my content. But as you speak on me, call it me. This, that, and fag, and gay, and niggas, and all sort of kind of shit. Ma'am, it's black women like you that make black men not like black women like you. When you're wrong, you can't even admit it. Instead of just admitting you're wrong, you want to try to deflect and go on to the next subject. Submit you're wrong. But I don't feel like I am because I feel like a lot of times... Well, tell me where I said it then. I'm not just talking about that in particular. No, I'm talking about that. I'm talking about this. See, that's what women like to do. Tell me where I said black women's only option is to date black men. That's what you make it seem like. I did not make it seem like that. That is wrong. That's what you make it seem like, Ma'am. That is wrong. That is wrong. You don't watch my content. I know what I say. And see, and I'm doing this for a very specific reason, black women. I want you to hear that this black woman refuses to back off of a position that is patently wrong. It still matters more what she feels than what the truth is. I just feel that you are hard on black women. You know, I feel like you're very hard... I'm hard on black women like you when you lie on black men with no remorse. If I was anti-dating out, why would I invite Crystal and Kersen on my platform? Go to the day she came on and listen to what I said. Why don't you just admit you're wrong, Ma'am? Well, if I'm wrong, I apologize. If I'm wrong or if I misunderstood your content, I do apologize. I do. I do. If you're wrong about this, you're wrong about a lot of stuff. And my question is this. Why is it so easy for you to sit back and talk about me in a way with such certitude when you don't watch what I do, but you're willing to go other places and talk about me when you don't watch what I say? Because the content creators say that, you know... I don't care what they say. I ask you why you do it. You're responsible as an adult for what you say about other people. You can't come home and tell me, well, because they did it, I did it. You're a grown woman. You're right. You're right. See, what people say about somebody matters. Many of those two women you mentioned have come over here and been treated rudely. I don't care about dating out. I say date whoever was it, make yourself the best version of yourself and then date whoever you choose to. I've said that since day one. And then another thing, like when you talk about women's sizes and stuff, most black women, and even you know it yourself, isn't a 5'4", isn't a 5'6". Well, I feel that... That's today. That's today. But that's not what it used to be. But I feel like you can be a size 10 and look good. You can be a size 12 and look good. Okay. I know that. But here's the thing, man. Okay, but who's the judge? Is it women or men? Men are usually the judge, because men are usually the ones that pick what they like or whatever. Right, and what has happened? As women's weight have gone up, marriages have gone down. Well, see, most black men say that they like curvy women, so it's like... I said as women's weight have gone up, I said marriages have gone down. I don't concern myself with hooking up, dealing. I concern myself with marriages because that's what we can verify. A lot of black men don't want to get married. A lot of them, they don't like marriage. And they don't like family. That's not true. Black men are more married than black women, and there are fewer men... Black men are more married than black women, and there are fewer black men. See, man, what you're approving is you believe a lot of propaganda and a lot of misinformation, and honestly, a lot of lies. Coming up here saying black men don't want to get married, I got a Facebook group that's been up for less than six months. Eight black couples and three engagements in under six months. That's more than any one of those two people you just mentioned. And I'm not in that business. Oh, black men get with black women, by the way. But that's not what I hear. I hear it on the swirlers. I don't care what you hear. I don't care what you hear. But that's not what the swirlers say. That's not what the swirlers say. Excuse me? That's not what the swirlers say. The swirler? The swirlers? And what do they say? They say that a lot of times I'll get with Becky, be like three or 400 pounds. But then y'all talk about a black woman being skinny, but a lot of times when y'all think white women, they're fat. Sometimes they're actually bigger than black women. So how old are you? 36. 36. You're a grown middle-aged black woman. And you're telling me that you're judging black men based on what some other black women say versus what black men say about themselves? But see, these black women are older than me. And I listen to them. And black men, there's no fool like an old fool. Sounds, they're wrong. See, here's the thing. What you say what the swirlers say, when you go out in your own world, you don't see black men with overweight black women. You see mostly, most groups of people are with each other. 81% of black men, 85% of black men are with married to black women. Ma'am, you're just wrong. You believe a lot of BS. And you keep putting it off on what the swirlers say. You are a grown middle-aged black woman responsible for what you say, what you see. You can't put this off on what somebody else did. You're repeating it. Good Kevin, I see it myself a lot of times. You know, when they say a lot of black men, when they say a lot of black guys, is it the majority? Well, when they say that a lot of black men in color, it's they are. No, see, you've tried to move the goalpost. Look at what has happened, folks. Listen to what has happened. Listen to what has happened, people. She's come in here, tried to say, I've told black women not to exercise or date out. Then she said, I'll talk about weight. Then she's tried to go to black men dating white women. Now she's trying to go to the colors. You know, ma'am, I don't allow women to just skip. You have been wrong at each step. You've been wrong, proven wrong, factually wrong, every point, and instead of just relenting, you keep wanting to go to the next point. Rolanda, you're wrong. Black men are with black women, like white men are with white women, like Hispanic men are with Hispanic women, et cetera. The facts go against everything you're talking about. The data goes against everything you're talking about. So what you see anecdotally in your little corner of the world is irrelevant to the truth. And as the middle-aged black woman, you're responsible for what comes out of your mouth. You want black men to be responsible for what they say about black women, don't you? Yeah, because I feel like a lot of times they could come home and want black women. Do you want black men to be responsible with what they say about black women? Yeah. Then you need to do the same damn thing. But my thing, Kevin, is that, and I'm not trying to be mean, but how can you praise a group of people that don't even like you? That that's crazy. Praise a group of people? What are you talking about? Praise a group of people like who? Praise them, black men. When a lot of times they don't like me, they overlook me. So why am I praising them? Well, let me ask you a question then. Let me ask you a question. First off, I can't deal with the group. But let me ask you, if you say black men don't like you, have you asked them why? No, I never asked why. Because I- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Are you, did you go to college? Did you go to college? Oh, did I go to college? No. Okay. But you have a job. Yes, I got a four-time job. Okay, so if you had a restaurant and you served chicken, and you put it in the middle of a place where people eat chicken, but nobody's coming to your chicken restaurant. Would you say that these people over here just don't like chicken? These people are fucked up because they don't eat, they don't eat my chicken cause I'm black? Or would you go out to the neighborhood or the consumers and ask them, have you tried my chicken? When you tried it, what did you think about it? Did you like it? What can I do to improve my chicken so you will come buy it? What would you do if you owned their business? Hmm. Would you curse out to potential customers? Or would you try to find out why they're not buying your chicken cause they seem to be buying it from other places? I would want to know why, but nine times out of 10, and they're not supporting your business, nine times out of 10. Hold on, stop right there. See what you just did? As you tried to go back to what you already believed, your confirmation bias, stop at point one. You go back and ask them. I asked you, have you ever asked the black men that you date or whatever, why they don't want to date you? The answer is- They don't like me. My thing is- And why? Why? I don't know. But you know- Hold on, stop. Stop, let me tell you. You need to ask them why? Cause they're the ones who dated you and it can tell you. But it seems to be as you, what you've done with me is you would rather make up a story and go find evidence to support the story other than find out the truth. Because once you find out the truth, you can fix it. But if you make up a story, you don't have to do anything. No, no, no, but what I'm saying to you, what I'm saying to you, Kevin, is I've heard things from other content creators. I'm not saying that, you know, this is- I'm talking about you and dating. Oh, Lord. You've switched all over the place. I'm very good at staying on track. You said, why would you praise a group of men who don't like you? I'm asking you who? You said black men. You said black men. I said, I can't speak for all black men. I can only speak to the black men. You've dated. Have you dated black men? Yes. Have you asked them why they don't like to continue to date you? You said, no. Why didn't you ask them what the problem was? Because it's always that group of men. I don't have any problem with that. Why didn't you ask the men? You didn't answer the question. See, you understood the logic in the chicken restaurant. But you don't want to deal with the same logic when it comes to black men. So that proves you understand how this works. Do you make room for the possibility that maybe black men are responding to the fact that you don't like them? Because just like a restaurant tool would go ask the customers what the problem is so they can make the restaurant better, you sound like the restaurant tool who will cuss the customers out for not buying. Because effectively, when you talk about black men, you cussing them out for not buying your chicken. Instead of asking them, what's wrong with my chicken? Because you're saying everybody else like my chicken? Well, if that's the case, where's your husband? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Where's Brad? Where's Leah? Me, Keith and Rike, where's your non-black husband? Oh, Lord. Well, because 80% of the time people marry their own race. So I don't concern myself with people dating each other because dating don't matter. Ben Affleck dated J.Lo, but he married Jennifer Gardner. Bost a white man married a white woman, not Big Booty J.Lo. So maybe, just maybe, you need to ask black men what the problem is. But I would tell you, based upon how you've addressed me, approached me, spoken to me, you've come at me in bad faith with ill intent and had no problem saying it. Maybe, just maybe, black men are responding to your animus, your contempt and lack of respect for the overall black male image that they didn't do. Because see, if I had approached you the way you've talked to me on other places, I would have brought you on here and cussed you out. Instead, I made a few jokes, but I kept you there and I brought you back on to talk to you with respect like a person, just like I did to Crystal and Karrison, just like I gave to Crystal Swirls because I don't fear any of the stuff you think I, any of the stuff you're talking about. I'm the man I say I am. Black men are not your enemy. Black men are not your enemy. Black men are not your enemy. I understand that. Well, anything is, I don't begrudge swirlers or dating out, but at the end of the day, they're not enough of any group dating out for any group to get more than 50%. I agree with that. So if that's the case, make yourself the best version of yourself possible and exercise your options. But at the end of the day, if men aren't choosing you, they're not buying what you're selling. The problem ain't the men. The problem is the product. All right, man, I gotta get on to the next person, but thanks for coming by. Let's go talk about about me. I'm sorry. All right.