 Welcome back. At least 42 people were killed in various attacks by non-state actors across Nigeria last week, precisely from February 6th to February 12th. About 11 of those killed were security personnel, including 10 police officers and one soldier. The others were civilians and despite the slight decline when compared to the previous week where at least 45 persons were killed. It is still a warring indicator of the state of security in the nation. All the killings were reported in the three of Nigeria's six regions, the southwest, southeast and the northwest. And joining us to analyze these developments is Lawrence Alobi, who is a former commissioner of the Nigeria Police Force. Miss Alobi, thank you very much for your time. It's Nigeria inching closer towards being a failed state, looking at and going by the state of security lapses and the insecurity in the country. Yeah, the security of the country is very disturbing and alarming. And most of which is worse than the fact that those who are supposed to protect us and should have more than one thing are not being attacked and killed. I mean this is the situation now, that the way I see it right now is too heavy for anarchy because missions are built on law and order. And that's why station 14B of the country provides that the prime force of the government, security and welfare of the people. And if the security, those who are supposed to supply security are not being attacked, they are being born, they are thinking of being born, they are working with whom they lie on now, because the society has no other place to look on to, to look on to the police. And that is why it is incumbent on the society to support the police, to encourage the police, to ensure the police perform all the money for the equipment on the side. And if the police do have a duty to ensure that they cut out their duties in line with the government, post-nationary and code of conduct. So the police is putting their best to ensure that the citizens also deserve the best. But again, they put it into their courage and their power to enable them. Today, the police is trying to understand that the people are trying to wear their uniform. So I sometimes help them for the society, so about the implication, you can't help them for the society at all, no strategy can be seen without the police. So we have a duty to ensure the police also is being trained and being sent in and not to be beaten. Lawrence and Lobie, let's also look at the reason why these police officers are being killed. What could be responsible? Now, some quotas are saying that it might just be because the Nigerian police is not properly kitted. I mean, when compared to the counterparts outside of the country. Now, recently, just last year, remember that the Lagos State Security Fund had mentioned that it would cost three million dollars to have a particular police officer kitted. I mean, fully kitted. So do you agree with these persons who are saying that the reason why they are being killed, the way they are being killed, could be because they don't have what it takes to defend themselves when these attacks actually come? Yeah, that is a notorious fact. If you see an American police officer, Nigerian police officer, officer of Nigerian police officer is fully kitted with all the gadgets that it needs to be effective in this country due to him. Even also to protect him. Our police man, he was, he carried 8K for the seven, nothing with him, no competition, no walking, talking, nothing, no protective vest, no more vest. And you see, when our men go outside this country, they are treated as one of the best in the world. But because of Nigerian environment, they are seen as the worst. The government itself is salty. The police itself is a victim system. They push down, he's not equipped, he's not well funded, he's not well trained, he's not well but he's a veteran and he wants to get him to be the best. He makes him to be very vulnerable, he's not very vulnerable. And I guess society's way is that people don't have the culture of being to the law. When we think that we are smart, when we go against the law, we say we are smart. And that is where the policeman is, he's not there, he's not empowered to enforce the law. Then he became the city sufferer. And now the police man is also suffering. For my CP, some of these things that you've pointed out, I would like to believe the challenges that were faced in your time as commissioner of police and these challenges as far as police welfare is concerned, logistics and all that, are still being faced today. I ask the question, what do you think we're inching closer towards being a failed state? Because you have policemen on the run. We've seen the pictures and videos, they're being killed and they're on the run. They're running away from attackers on non-government bandits, call it what you may. But if you choose not to answer that question directly, do you see the situation improving anytime soon? Yeah, it is all improved. And if the government has a political reason, so we must fix our Nigerian police force for the benefit of Nigerian citizens, but for the benefit of the country. But when we play the politics, some of us, some of the people who are there, they bring me out to destroy the police. The police are not well-connected, they're not well equipped to get police, but as we don't have, they don't have logistics, some policemen don't have patrol vehicles, no communication. And this is a political today, it's not carried driven. And with that technology, it cannot function effectively. So the police themselves are not empowered to perform their functions in and with the mandate of the acts of the police act. So I think the government is the one to stand up. And the scientists stand up and see how the police is our police, how the police and the police fix our apprenticeships. In fact, the good aspect of NTA, NTA's protest is that NTA will say that police should be reformed, because they saw the results, the results of the police, and they were concerned with that because if the police is not picked, the police are empowered and motivated and strengthened to effectively decide to suffer. And in so far, the police are not picked, and they will continue to suffer insecurity. I know where it's meant to, I know where it's meant to bring this up, and how it brings up against the police or do that. The police and the primary agencies try to send us security. Okay, finally, Ms. Aloubi, because of time, yeah, Ms. Aloubi, because of time, I just want you to answer this in AS or no. Is it time for us to decentralize the policing in the country and allow the states or regions? All right, all right, all right. Thank you very much, sir. I'm sorry that's so much you're going to take as far as this conversation is consumable. We totally appreciate your time and given us your expert analysis as well. Lawrence Aloubi is a former commissioner of the Nigeria Police Force and has been a guest on the breakfasts on Plus TV Africa. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being part of the show. We do appreciate and everyone that has been part of the breakfast this morning. The show returns tomorrow, seven o'clock is the time up until now. And if you miss that on any part of the conversation, it's all right to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or Plus TV Africa, and do subscribe to our YouTube channel, Plus TV Africa Lifestyle. 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