 We like we are live in you confirm. We're ready to go. We are ready to go Okay, all right. Good evening everyone. I'd like to call the October 20th 2022 city of Santa Cruz planning mission meeting to order could we have a roll call from the trip first mission of Conway? Yeah Mission to Greenberg mission to Kennedy here Mission or Maxwell mission or my city Miller here Mission or shuffling here Mission or Dawson all right moving right along Do we have any statements of disqualification for this evening? Okay, this is the time we're going to move right on to oral communications This is time for the public to address the planning commission for any non agenda items If you'd like to speak on a non agenda item this time to raise your hand Press the raise your hand at the bottom of your screen or star nine on your phone Give it a second for anyone who would like to address the commission for oral communication. Hey, just confirming with the clerk I don't see anybody any members of the public in attendance. Is that correct? That is correct Okay, moving on. We'll move on to approval of the minutes for the October 6th meeting I would go ahead and entertain a motion for approval or any changes that needed to be made So moved second Okay, one item on is just just ask about really quickly Absolutely We talked about that right turn thing and I was pretty sure we ended up with language This is the words Traffic control device shall be installed to prevent Vehicles for making a right turn when exiting the facility onto Pelton And I thought we had softened that language But I wanted to ask the other commissioners what they remembered from the meeting because I was not a hundred percent sure This is condition number Where is it? Well, this is at the bottom It says the extent permitted by Department of Public Works and the fire department of more substantial traffic control device Shall be installed to prevent vehicles from making a right turn when exiting the facility onto Pelton Avenue The device shall be included in the final building permit plans. Did you think we did something different? No, I just want to make sure that that word prevent was our intent and I see now that that Like to the extent permitted does limit it so When I was reading the minutes, I just noticed and thought I would ask Okay, so do we want to make a Mended motion or are we good with the motion on the table to vote on it? I'm good. Let's go ahead and vote Okay, we're gonna go ahead and go for a vote for approval of the minutes It was moved by commissioner mrs. Miller seconded by commissioner shifrin Where can we have a roll-call vote for approval of the October 6th? 2022 We've appointed procedure before we do I just want to confirm that there's nobody in the public that is there that might want to speak to it Like there are no members of their Yeah, so nobody are no There are no attendees So Clerk could we please have a roll call? Commissioner Conway abstain. I was absent Mission or Kennedy I Mission or my city Miller. I Mission or shifrin. I mission or Dawson So Then it's carry with three votes and we're going to move on to the consent agenda We have two items on the consent agenda this evening So the order of events will be we'll see if any commissioners want to pull the items Then we'll go out to the public to see if they have any interest in pulling the items off the consent agenda Consent agenda means that we will not hear a staff report And we will just have discussed a motion and discussion at the commissioner level So first of all we'll go to commissioners there are any commissioners interested in pulling either item number two which is a It's Let's see. What are we doing here? There's zoning ordinance for cannabis deliveries. So that's item number two and number three Is the right-of-way abandonment anybody interested in removing either of those from the consent agenda Okay, just pause for a second to see if any members of the public have joined and have any interest in Removing one of these items from the consent agenda if you do raise your hand now by using the icon or star nine It's like we still have no members of the public president clerk, can you confirm that? Yes, that is confirmed Okay, great. So I will bring it back to the commissioners now and I will be looking for a motion to On the both items on the consent agenda as presented so Open to any commissioners who might want to make a motion all means to prove Moved by commissioner Kennedy. Do we have a second? second Okay Even to it. I was good. I was coming in there a little slow So moved by commissioner Kennedy seconded by commissioner shifrin Is there any discussion that? We go straight to a vote Well, I had a couple of questions, but I'll be darned if I can find them Let me just see here And this would be clarifying questions to staff. Yes Never mind. I can't find them and they're very minor. There was nothing. Okay. Oh, I know what one was with the centennial one was the additional property That's being added to that our soul Making it possible to add an ad you that was not possible to be added before No There's no limitations on lot size for ad use. So it wouldn't affect that possibility Okay, any any other clarifying questions from from commissioners to staff Okay, we'll go ahead and go to a vote. Um, we're moving approval of the Agenda as presented staff of works for item number two and item number three clerk. Can we please have a roll call vote? As commissioner conway I Missioner kennedy. All right mission in my city miller I missioner shifrin I missioner dawson Hi Motion carries unanimously. We'll move along to any subcommittee advisory body oral reports from the any commissioners But we do have the information item on the Tour of buildings. Sorry, I jumped ahead. Thank you So let's go ahead and jump back to the informational items. Um, this is item number four The staff report uh, we're driving planning commission tour of buildings looks like Samantha has come on so Go ahead Samantha. Thank you. Um, So I don't really have a staff report, but we did um, the assistant director did some research on the noticing requirements Which are included in that report um We're very excited about taking you out to see the downtown area and show you the buildings that are in progress but we did um Think that it would be more beneficial to wait until they were Um constructed um, maybe just prior to occupancy Um, we could give you the first look give you a tour of the interior. You could kind of see how the design Plays out in real life See what it looks like and then with the noticing that would give you the opportunity to have such discussions Um, so that would be our recommendation. It's a construction site now Even the sidewalks are closed. You'd have to walk around with hard hats. It might be Um, not the ideal situation for everyone and i'm not sure that you would be able to fully see what's going on So that would be our recommendation Okay, um just opening it up in commissioners you want to raise your hand and have any uh other questions for Samantha or Samantha thanks for the report and I brought this up last week We just put so much effort into the downtown plan and seeing Whatever you feel about big buildings We all want to make the downtown as great as possible So that's why I suggested this and I agree I spend my whole day in a hard act going up and down so i'm immune to the danger But um, let's wait a little bit. I just wanted to add it to the discussion Is affordable housing month majorly? I believe so Anyway, let's do it in a year or two but um I'm so proud of the work we all a lot of us did on those plans and seeing it come to life is really something else and I just think as a commission. We need to study Zoning wise the things we did to break up those buildings and Um, hopefully make them not look as huge as they are So um, that's my intent and I appreciate the report. Let's follow up in a year Once uh things are less dangerous Any other questions or comments from commissioners on the informational item? I had a question to staff about whether the decision on the eucalyptus project Eucalyptus tree project was appealed to the council I yeah, I do I do have a few announcements as well if you guys are, um, finished with this topic We can move on Yeah, let's let's go ahead commissioners and let's go ahead and get that in the uh the next item So just going back to subcommittee advisory or a report Nobody has any of those correct? Okay, I don't think we have any so many no we don't so Well, there you have it. Let's go ahead and go kind of to informational items items refer to future agendas And we can go back to commissioner shifrin's question So dam, why don't you start with your report and then we'll go ahead and go back to commissioner. I'm sure she'll cover it in her report Yes, we see we received two appeals on the um 126 eucalyptus project We received one appeal from a member of the public and we received one appeal from the applicant Um, so those are currently being reviewed by staff and we are working to set up the exact meeting date for the city council meeting But it looks like it will probably be in late november early december somewhere around that time period that the agendas are getting a little full at this time um Could I have a question is it is there in the Code is there not a requirement for? Uh, when the council hears an appeal how much time? Uh, that limits the amount of time Before the council has to hear the appeal There is um, and let me pull that up just so I can give you exact information I believe it says the next available agenda. So it's a little bit open-ended if it's full um But we are looking at the possibility of a special meeting if those two agendas if the upcoming agendas are full Thank you Okay, um Samantha, I have one question So for the appeals were they appealing different aspects of the project and do you talk about a little bit about which Each one is appealing um, I can say generally I haven't gone through them in detail yet But one is appealing aspects of the project like the impacts on traffic um And Other things and the other one from the appellant is appealing the um inclusionary requirement Okay, great. Thank you very much any other questions or comments from commissioners Any items to be referred to future agendas? Um, I just have one more update. I'm sorry. Actually, we have a couple more updates Um, I wanted to let you know that we do not have anything scheduled for the planning commission meeting in november Um for for either of them. So at this point, there's nothing scheduled Um, and then we have two updates on objective standards that matt van wa is going to jump in and and give you Hi commissioners, uh, two quick updates from advanced planning Uh for objective standards, we have a FAQ meeting coming up next week that I just wanted you all to be aware of It's on thursday 27th at 6 p.m And this FAQ meeting is really going to be about answering any final questions regarding the objective standards item that's going to council on november 15th And I just wanted uh you all and if anyone's watching uh to be aware where we are hoping to answer The questions we receive in writing first the meeting So we would like people to to write in questions if they have any And we'll take those first but time permitting We will also take questions in the meeting as well on any of your any of those questions on objective standards before the council meeting and uh For more information, you can visit the city calendar on that the meeting's up on that and then our project website is www.cityofsantacrews.com Slash obj matt what what email address the public use to send any questions for this Yeah, that's uh, it's uh the project manager sarah noisy that's s neu se at cityofsantacrews.com And that that information is also in both the calendar and the and the project website too Okay, thank you And then just a one more note on objective standards as well. I thought the the commission would be interested to hear that Staff is looking to uh include Some some language on uh bus pass requirements As part of the the city council Recommendation as you know, uh, that was that was a recommendation from the commission earlier this summer and When we were going to go back in august the city council Staff at that time was recommending that we look at that more comprehensively with a number of other parking reduction programs as part of the climate action plan Things of that nature in 2023 But given the the state legislation ab 2097 Which is a is around parking reductions for for sites that are close to high quality transit That really that really gave us the impetus to want to expedite this work And bring for that bus pass requirement So be looking for that as well in the council package So thank you for that. Thanks for that idea and it's uh moving forward I appreciate that that that staff has moved in that direction Thanks for questions from the commissioners for staff uh, mr. Kennedy I think this is for samantha Let's say mezzaro doesn't pass. What's the soonest the library makes use? affordable housing project would be in front of us Is that known or is that just out there and i'm sorry to quiz you. I know it's not your project um It is not set in stone for sure, but um, I think the soonest would probably be around just in sometime in december Thank you Can I ask a follow-up question on that that? Has that project been through environmental review? I don't see how it can come be to the planning commission before environmental reviews, so And that's not going to be December, so I mean I think that's May not be realistic um Given that You know the city You know the the consultant's going to have to kind of decide and the staff is going to have to decide Maybe ultimately the council is going to have to decide what kind of environmental document is going to be required um because my guess is that even if measure o fails The opponents to the project are not going to Accept that With it was in good grace and um, I you know, my guess is that they would be challenging the environmental document And at least demanding an eir, so There may be good reason to do an exemption and that may be uh legally sustainable but I think there is going to need to be some time for some kind of the environmental some environmental document to be prepared I don't know. Andy. Hope springs eternal. It might go through without a lawsuit or an appeal Maybe sorry. Sorry. Sorry Okay, any other uh Questions or staff? Okay chair. I have one more update and Okay, it was just to answer Andy Mr. Schifrin's question about the appeal period to the city council And so it looks like it needs to go to the city council between 15 and 60 days from the day the appeal was filed Sometime before the end of the year ish Something like that. Thank you all Uh for attending. Thanks to folks who are watching this evening. Um with that, I will call the october 20th Video Santa careers planning commission meeting into adjournment. Thank you all. Thank you everyone. Good night. Good night