 Welcome to Toffy TV. Sean Deitch has been announced as the new Everton manager. He's come in with a couple of days before the transfer window shut to try and get some players in as well and obviously we face Arsenal next week first game to try and save Everton from themselves. Bas, what are your feelings, what are your initial thoughts on the thing? Fair enough. He's done it quickly, which is a good thing. Relatively quickly for Everton. I think when you look at it overall, I think he was like the safest choice I think. I think people with the decision makers at the football club have obviously looked at the position Everton are in. Going to the new stadium is a huge thing and obviously Everton has to be relegated and there's a good chance of that right now. Dad had left something like £50m holds of film, even with the parachute payments and all that. They want to move into the new stadium in just over a year. They don't really want to be going in as a championship club do you? I think Everton have looked at someone who they look at as a gift and the best opportunity to get out of trouble. I think the only kind of mad thing is the two people we've left with which was both seem totally different to each other and I think that will concern people. Do you think that is, though, because what we've been led to told is that Mishiri wanted Bielsa and that kind of maybe out the box thinking that we've been used to with Farad Mishiri and someone who doesn't, we've been led to be told that this fella said he needed seven weeks to get the team right and then said I'll take the under 21s till the rest of the season. He might be a good manager, I don't think he's personally the fifth right now but do you think that this is actually a bit more of a pragmatic fit that will have been suggested by the rest of probably the board? People who understand the situation a little bit more of what is actually needed rather than Mishiri doing his old gunkho, I want my man kind of thing? Possibly, but I mean I don't know who's made the decision. It's a collegiate decision. We had? Yeah it is, it is a collegiate decision. I mean last time we were in a predicament like this was 12 months ago. The time before that was when he brought Sam Aladdin, Farad Mishiri, who was seen as this firefighter who would keep at it nothing he did in all fairness to him. So I'm not sure maybe, maybe there was obviously other people who were interested in the job and maybe when they've done that in doing that assessment of whether they felt right for the job. Maybe the club thought experience might have been the right kind for them at that moment in time. I think it would be elsewhere. He's never ever taken his job mid-season. So it was already a bit of a stretch and obviously when you see him getting off a plane from Brazil, you're thinking. Yeah he's come for a nice weekend then? Yeah he's come for a weekend in London. But you see him arriving from Brazil you think oh well maybe he's going to get it then and then you read that story today that he said oh no no no. Mi mi'n staffel just mannes di 120 wands. So mi'n fawr efo'r evidence to do them is it going to be Paul Titan leiton bain till y end of the season. Swap roles? Swap roles while he's shorting. I mean that's the kind of manager B.L. Siris isn't he? He'd look at everything. And in some respects you'd go and that had been an interest in concept because he might have, I don't know, but I think what he'd have wanted was to be made above it, the 21s and have them all run with that. After I'm ready to go yeah. And then applied that to the first team in the summer so that was an interesting one. I just wonder with that whether it leaves any kind of uncertainty over Sean Dice and what a mean by that is, with that story in the background. Are we going to revisit this in the summer because Farad Masheri wants his man. You'd like to think if they've made that decision that it is Sean Dice then he'll be giving every opportunity and I'm sure he will to make the job really his own and how he's been giving the job what you know what a mean to really. For me the Bielser thing is interesting because it's clear, it was obviously you and Masheri once, but I do like the idea or I can the idea that for the short term that we've gone away from these people, we are going away from these people in terms of just bringing in who he wants and having his people do it. It is important that Kevin Felwell is part of the decision, a massive part of the decision and we don't know do we, we don't know who has made the decision ultimately whether it is a Khaledith decision. For me the decision itself I think it's a pragmatic one, I think it's probably a sensible one, I know it's not, I know everyone won't be enamoured with it, I know there's a lot of other names out there that would be seen as being sexier, better, probably better for the long term. For me I don't necessarily think Shaun Dice is, I don't actually see him as the other Dice kind of guy because I don't actually think there's a record of that, I don't think there's any record of Shaun Dice going anywhere and saving a football club from going down, I think he's someone who wants to build something. I think he was just in a predicament at Burnley because we're a very small club and it's almost that thing of like how did it boom if maybe you don't appreciate something till a person's gone, another one would be when Cairbishley was at Charlton and everyone said oh we need better and then he stepped away and they just dropped like a stone. But he didn't do anything anywhere else did he? No no no, but I'm just saying that's what people are saying about Dice, about his time at Burnley, it seems from us on the outside that like they were fighting relegation, they can't have been a good team when you look at them and go, well no they're not, they're not a very big club, they did what they did and don't forget that was under the last owners what they're doing now is completely different on the new ownership, the new ownership didn't want that direction, basically took the relegation after they'd sacked them and now they're coming back and it's a different kind of thing. Does that mean he'll fit Everton? Well I think he'll have lain from the experiences. I think he's been again he's ready for a big club, I think he's got enough, I think he's got enough experience today. You know if you watch you know the cultures of what you said and get what it is, someone playing Liverpool and not only was he somehow how his plays had lain, to play against better teams and have the all of their experience and he had more experience of playing, you'll have that experience. Everton are at the moment in dire straits and we need someone who can come and aim points and put and understand the way we need to play. What I find quite interesting is that Frank Lampard wasn't good enough, couldn't coach good enough to get his playing good football. So what he did was revert to basic football, it's what kept us up last season, having five at the back and with Charlotte's on the front, staining games and then nicking a goal, that's what got us up. This fella's actually an expert in that. He does that playing 4-4-2 with the shape and the movement and he likes having two strikers, he has one coming off, almost dropping in. I think that you look at someone like Maupai and you went well, if Maupai could actually do anything, well it might be being that little niggly player who can drop off and play between the lines. It might be him, it might be somebody else, it might be Sims or Grey or he could play Dwight MacNeill or whatever. I don't know, I'm not just saying you could see that already. It's his dream, let's get it right. It don't mean it's the man's dream. It's not what we want, it just might be what we need and that will only play out won't it? I think the thing is, you just sort of said it there, a lot of thing is perception in football. I've watched the coaches which I've seen them on, the high performance podcast I've seen them on, and he always comes across as a really good talker, I think he's a good communicator. I think I've said it before, he looks like, you wouldn't mess with him from the door. When he looks like he's quite a tough, straight talking character and that's probably what everything needs. He's always talked about his teams being hardworking, he's talked about his teams being honest. I think as Evertonians we like that, we like that honesty from our players, to know that our players are fans. People can talk about patience and this, that and the other and our owners aren't being at it again with this video. We need to be patient. It's 28 years without a trophy and we are quite patient really as a fan base. But I think what we expect is people to put everything into it and I think that's what a Sean Dice team will do. I spoke to a Burnley fan on my video with Liam Visery, who's a Burnley fan and he was saying the fans love him because he knew that the players give everything or sometimes they weren't good enough but they give everything, every game and all that. And that's what we want. Yes, we want a bit better. I think the problem, it seems like when you look at it you're talking to different Evertonians and you're reading different things. I think we all want something slightly different. Some people want the Sean Dice type that some people want the other end of the scale and a lot of people are excited by BL. I want to do maybe a younger manager to transform the way we play but the reality is at the end of the day you've just said that they were at it. The owner did say something that was absolutely correct in his video that we are at a critical time in our history. There's a crossroad, you call it an existential, that's where we are because we're doing the biggest thing that will ever happen in our lifetime as Evertonians. We're moving from a place we've had for 100 odd years to a new stadium. That's a huge change in itself. We're facing financial, we're up against it with FFP. That's huge. We've got an owner that wants to sell some of the business and American investors may be coming in and we're doing all this while our team's not very good as well. So we've got not one huge change coming. There's three or four bits that are all out of kilter. As well as that we've got a director of FFP trying to actually make the club and up to just a standard direct family club should be. So there is all of those considerations to look at and I think why when you asked me the very start of this and it took me trying thinking about it. I don't know about you, I'm just wearing out. But there's too many things going on. I mean you have been doing this for a while. We've done too many of these videos. This manager, let's get behind him, let's do this, let's do that, let's do that, let's do that. And we're here again and I'll be honest, I honestly can't say shit. I mean you won't be doing this in six months with another new manager. Well not with the people who own the football club. Because of that, not because of Sean Dice but because of Frank Lampard or Bla, because of the way we have been for years and that is the thing where right now it's sucking the enthusiasm out of me. And you know that I am more often than not glass half full. I just feel right now really wary of it. No and I agree with that and I honestly just look at the situation and I'm not massively swayed one way or another. I've had it all kicked out of me. I could use various words but I know YouTube are getting sick from swaying. I could use various words. I just sit here now and wait to see what happens. I think, do you know what part of me thinks it's good that we haven't brought in a really good manager. That would just be wasted. Does that make sense? Because it's all over the place. Do you know what I mean? Now when you think and you look at Michael Silver and what he's doing a full on now and you think do you know what Michael Silver are being at effort and things are being slightly different. And don't get me wrong, I'm not rewriting history and never rewriting history. Michael Silver made massive mistakes but what happens when you make massive mistakes and you haven't got the foundations below. When you haven't got the foundations there those mistakes are huge. Franklin had made loads of mistakes and do you know if you had a better club looking after them? It wouldn't have been that bad. You can lean on the job, you can lean and this is where I think a lot of people when Wayne Rooney's name come up or me even Duncan Ferguson, the corn man himself when those names come up you just think to yourself you can't make any mistakes because this club will swallow you whole. And that's where I almost think I'm quite happy that in a way there's some young idealistic manager who wants to do this and wants to do that and wants to do things out the box because there's nothing there for them. There's no time for them. It's got to be perfect. And I think what Sean Dice represents at least is a man who has an understanding of how the Premier League works. An understanding of a football club like Everton works by the way. He'll have watched Everton come up to dig and had a few times when he was a bailing on kick out of these, these will fall to bits. He'll have an understanding of what our fans are all about as well. He'll know how to get them onside straight away. For me it's like he's the one you use right now. He's the one. He's not the hero we want. He's the hero we need. And maybe later on when the club gets fixed and we do have the new stadium and we've got new investors. That might be the time for when we get the big sexy naming who's the next thing and that might be Wayne Rooney or it might be done because he's done an amazing job at Forest Green or whatever. That might be that time when everything is set up and the director of football has got the club humming. No, but don't forget when people are the only ones who come to the city all the people who went there the year before to get that club geared up for them and I'm not comparing the two. I'm just using the example. Maybe it'll take a little bit of time to get this club where Kevin Felwell needs it and before anyone says anything I don't believe that would be with the people who run the club right now. They all need being in as far as I'm concerned. So maybe he's just the guy we need right now. Maybe he's just the guy we need right now. That makes sense, right? That makes sense. And I think, you know, it almost happened with David Manow. That's the difference. But it almost happened with David Moyes, didn't it? There was a lot of turmoil. We were going nowhere. Walter Smith was just keeping his head above water. Johnson was there and it was needed to be changed, you know. And anyway, you know, he went and whatever, whatever, whatever. There was all that going on in the background. Moyes coming and steadyed it and then got us on the upper trajectory and he ended up staying on the bottom. And if David Moyes would have had a bit of support on the financial front, everything probably would have achieved some. And maybe Sean Dyche because he's been there done that, got the teachers. That kind of character, he's straight sort of. Maybe he is exactly what everything needs to put the fires out. As in, establish a structure, establish a culture, as in. A culture, as in, you give everything for the football club. Doesn't mean. Steven Peenard, under Moyes, Steven Peenard. Unbelievable football, artetha. Tremendous footballers coming and working the bollocks off for the football club. So, you know, Sean Dyche, he was kept. There was a very much a glass seal on it, what he could do, written on this, and he'd done his job. He's coming in to everything and while there is still a bit of a seal in there because of FFP and that, there's a bigger room for him to grow and he might, you know, he'll come in, he will get us organised. He'll get us playing a little bit direct but let's be honest, we haven't had it's not like we've been playing like Man City or Barcelona. Because I really I really love 50 passes between the centre backs. Again, I've said this on something else but Antonio, the West Ham forward, was like, we just watched them pass the ball around at the back and left them to it even though they were too near the arm of Tim and it's like, that's what we're coming from and don't think we'd do it with that. So, Sean Dyche got a great opportunity here to come in. I think the fans will get right behind him because the majority tried to get behind Benitez, even though they didn't like it. He's someone who is a likeable character and I think he will. He stands up to people. I've got a lot of time for him because he always has to go to fourth official so therefore I'm the referee so I've got a bit of time for him there. He doesn't mix his words. That's what we like as well as a football club so I think he can do a good job. He might be exactly whatever needs to study everything right now because we have late from one thing to the other. We'll see how it goes. What the club have to do right now and we've still got a few days left at his transfer window is get him. It's the same when Lampard was here. We were saying get him some bloody tools to work with and also energise the fan base with that as well. Give the fan base some hope and new manager might be enough for a lot of people. We need to energise the fan base and what I would say to Sean is if you would like to come in and sit on our couch and have a chat with us we have really big mugs of tea here. You can't fancy coffee if you... Let's not put them in the... Let's not pigeonhole the fella. I know I'm just saying you might like a big mug that you can literally spoon or stand up on its own with 18 sugars in it or you might be the flipside. Doesn't look like an 18 sugar man. Make get me a cappuccino lad immediately. I'll get your lemon tea. We have got some stats of me for them. Let's look at his overall stats as a manager. There you go. 474 games managed these 169 of them. He's drawn a 130. He's lost a 175 of them. I can't see the win percentage, Ned. 36%. 36%. Isn't amazing, but okay. It's not amazing, but I tell you what. It's well better than Frank Lampard's. And then next, what else have we got, Ned? We've got his league placens. Which is a 17th, 18th season. He finished 7th with 54 points. Everton finished 8th. In the 18th, 19th season, 15th with 40 points. Everton finished 8th. 1920, he finished 10th with 54 points. Everton finished 12th that season. 2021, he finished 17th on 39 points. Everton finished 10th that year on 21-22 last year. Burnley went down on 35 points. He was sacked with eight games to go. I think it was, but he's finished twice above Everton in the last five years with a much smaller budget. Much smaller budget, so he knows how to get results. Listen, I know people will in the comments go, why didn't we go for touch and put to tea? Whoever, whoever, whoever. We know. But where we are right now, he makes sense, maybe. We know why we didn't go for those people. A lot of the crowd people have just gone. You know what I mean? Blocked the number. Everton, Everton, and Steve Stone. Steve Stone, who doubled as Nobby Styles in the Three Lines video originally. He did originally. Can you ask for any more than that? Well, and Steve Stone is also the recipient of a Kevin Campbell square pass with no goalkeeper and he blazed it over the bar. He could cheat Neil Mawpai now. Listen, he will come and again that's something that Liam said. He said the back room staff, that he had a barely veil, hardware and things so. That Liam visa, that is. Liam visa, yeah. Check that video out as well. Check it out. We just dropped it in with no like. Because it already said the previous thing in the video. He just said we had somebody on. He didn't give it. And then he said Liam, Liam visa. Liam visa football blogger. Friendly fan. Tico. There you go. There you go. If you take it, I don't know what. And Donald Chinton is that. Very interesting. Donald Chinton is to give us his feelings as well. Check that video out as well. Don't hush it. Ask you go. He believes things he's the right man. Don't ruin the video. Jamie Carrige. Don't ruin the video. Don't ruin the video. Okay. Spoilers. Spoiler list. There you go. First game Arsenal. If there's any more game that's shown by Tewd Relish. It's league leaders Arsenal coming to Godderson on a 12. Day Wolf Fancy on a Saturday. We've got 12 now. Of course. We've got a good run against them. There we go. I don't know why did you just say that. Who knows? There you go. Right. He's in the door. He's our manager. Get on with it. Get on with it. That's what I'm saying. Get it on with it. She's getting on with it. I can't even do his voice because my throat would be destroyed if I even tried. What are you trying to do? What are you doing? He'll drop off. When he plays you, we go over. He's not yours. He's more a little bit more southerny. Get him plays. Get him plays. There you go. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Give this video a like. Subscribe if you haven't already. You've got more great videos. Join us over on Toffy TV Premier. The link is in the description. The QR code will appear on the screen in three seconds. See you later.