 This is my friend Sabrina and she's gonna tell you how you can camp in some of the most beautiful places in the country for free and get paid. That's right. I wanted you guys to meet my friend Sabrina who's actually my camp house, my BLM campground and she's rad and she's gonna tell us all about how she volunteers here to get her spot and what her life mission is. She loves to travel. I do. Tell us about your journey. How did you end up here in Moab as a camp host? So I've been camping here for years. I love this place. It's probably my most favorite out of the city nature spot for sure. It's great. And I'm a Florida girl. So I knew I wanted to come out here two months of the year. I was like, okay, how am I gonna make this happen? So I had thought about contacting the park service or the BLM and it was in the back of my mind. But then I was talking to a girlfriend and she was like, why don't you just call them? My friend does it all the time. It's like really easy and they always need people. And I was like, really? Okay. So I literally called the next day because it was a Sunday when we were hanging out. I called the next day. I went on to volunteer.gov and I saw that they were looking for camp hosts and the National Park Service was looking for people in the visitor center. Wow. Well, I wanted to be outside for sure. So I contacted the BLM and I was like, hey, I saw you're looking for a camp host. And they were like, yes, and we need one more. And so I was like, well, it's so last minute because I was like, I want to come out in October. They were like, it's cool. Normally it's a minimum of two months, but on the rare occasion, they will make an exception and allow you to stay for six weeks. Wow. So that's what I'm doing. So I'm gonna put the link that she mentioned below for you guys. But I was always under the impression that to be a camp host, you know, it was a pay position and it was like six months. Right. I think it's very cool that you can go to a beautiful spot like this and volunteer for your spot. For sure. Do I have that right? You do. So it is a two month usual minimum for the BLM. It's a volunteer position. You do get paid, but it's called reimbursement. So they pretty much reimburse you the week for, you know, gas, groceries, you know, beer money. So you get paid a, you know, a smaller amount, but you still get paid every week. Oh, you do. I get paid the whole time I'm here, but usually they only pay you with the end of your service. Oh, I'm sorry. So even though it's volunteer.gov, yes, you go through, you are still getting paid. Yes. Right now, at least here, they pay $100 a week. Wow. So like I said, normally they pay you at the end of your service, but I asked them if they could pay me twice and they said sure. So they're super flexible too. Super flexible. So you didn't have to go through some vendor and do a big application process. You just called. No, I called and then I had to do a quick 10 minute application on volunteer.gov. It's their application and that was it and then I called them and that's all they needed. And they, yeah, yeah, they didn't even do a background check. You never know your campus are. So you guys, the first night I pulled up in here, we're at the Big Bend campground, which, you know, there's a fairly busy road right here, but we're right on the Colorado River. It is a choice spot. So of course I get here and there weren't a lot of spots, but I went over to the camp house here and she was in a tent and that was the first time I had ever seen a camp house, BLM, National Forest, anything in a tent. And so I think that's pretty unusual. How are you finding that so far? It is super unusual. Now I will say this, this is my first time working with a government agency. So I'm learning about all the tricks and trades and tribulations that they deal with and one of that is being understaffed. So when I talked to them on the phone, they had in the application that they had no hookups for RVs, right? Right. So I was like, ooh, then I don't know if I can do it. I don't have an RV yet. And so I called them and they're like, oh, you can tent camp, you can tent camp. So I was like, okay, cool. So they really did need some people. Totally. So anyway, long story short, I've, I got here, I found out no one else is tent camping and why? It's because the elements are crazy out here. The wind gusts are between 20, 25 miles an hour sometimes. There's not a lot of trees. So yeah, most camp posts do not tent camp for many reasons. You had been a tent camper before. Yes. So did you find that the gear that you had was good enough? Or what would you recommend if somebody was going to do this? Is there something you wish you had that you don't have? A van. See, I brought everything I needed, you know, tarps, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, warm clothes. I pretty much have everything I need. Okay, cool. It's very unusual for camp posts, but I'm doing it. And oh my God, I am the star of the office. No one can believe I am tent camping and a woman by myself. What made you want to come out and take this job in your traveling journey and tell us about what you've done before this? She's fascinating, you guys, and where she wants to go after this. Okay. So this was me camp posting, which is an excuse for me to come out here really for, you know, almost two months. Normally in real life, outside of camping, I own my own business where I coach. I do life coaching, wellness coaching. I'm also a chef, medicinal, organic chef. And I also used divination tools such as numerology, astrology, cards, tarot, oracle, pendulums, etc. Smoke. Magic. So I own my own business. So that's why I was able to come out here for this long because I'm not a nine to five or I don't have a big corporate job on purpose. So after this, I am taking a week to get back to Florida, Orlando. And from there, just I'm going to be researching and doing as much work as possible to see how I can be on the road more often. And Robin has been a huge inspiration already. I'm like, girl, I'm going to get in the van life, right? I don't want to have to pay rent, you know, when I don't need to. Right. So that's my one of my goals is to become a van lifer, at least for part time, you know. So yeah, travels my number one passion. Yeah. So this is just kind of the start of it. Yeah. She's camping Europe. She's telling me she camped near Paris or Versailles, which is amazing. One of the adventures that Sabrina's gone on that I really wanted to tell you guys about was that she did some back country camping with it like an all terrain vehicle. I don't even forgive me because I don't even know what it's called. It just sounded great to me. So yeah, so there's the TAT, T-A-T, which is the transatlantic trail, I believe, and it goes from one coast to the other. So if you have an off-road vehicle or a motorcycle, you can actually take the trail and not drive on highways and actually just be in nature the whole time. And it's a thing and I did part of it. And you camped in a tent that whole time? I did. That's awesome. Camped for three weeks in a tent, longest spout I've ever done using the bathroom out in the world. The wide open. The wide open. By the way, you guys, Sabrina's mom is 73 and she's coming next week to Tink Camp with Sabrina in her spot for the first time in her life. Isn't that great? She's about to have the adventure of her freaking life. That's awesome. It's never too late. Never. Get out there and do stuff. Yeah. I was told that when I was coming out here I wasn't going to make any deep close friends. But I have. I have. I've made a couple great friends for life for sure. But everyone's, I feel in a different mentality when they're traveling. Everyone's more friendly, open to chat, open to meet new people, open, just more open-minded, in general. So I have been completely impressed with the caliber of people and the hospitality. Yes. You meet someone and then you're like, come over for dinner. It's just like your instant friends, instant family. So it's really touched my heart being out here. What would you say to people that dream about traveling but they never actually get out of their house and go do it? Was that a setup? Let me go ahead and set Sabrina up there. You know, it all it takes is action. Everyone can have a dream. Everyone has a dream. Yes. But to do it you need to actually research and take action because otherwise everything is just fantasy. Part of what I teach is that everyone can be free. You don't have to live in a box you know. You don't have to work at jobs you hate. You don't have to be in relationships that you can't stand. So yeah, this is what I teach to be free and to be alive and to feed your soul and your mind and your body and your heart. So yeah, that's good. That's really good advice. So you guys again, I'm going to link Sabrina's website and her YouTube channel below. Do check her out. Her stuff is great. And if you like this video, please give it a thumbs up on the way out. It helps people discover this channel and this video and I wish you all happy travels out there and be free. Be free people.