 and welcome to Lady Aida. Hey everybody and welcome to yet another cyberrific Sunday here at the desk of Lady Aida, it's me, Lady Aida. This is my desk with me, Mr. Lady Aida on camera control and I did a lot of stuff that we worked on this week, weekend, so get your questions and stuff lined up. I also showed up in Scott's live broadcast on Thursday and previewed some of this stuff. We can jump right in. As always, thanks for supporting us by purchasing stuff from Aida Fruit. It's what keeps the lights on, literally. We have to pay the electricity bill. Yeah, and our people in the rent and all the things that keep Aida Fruit going, so thank you very much. You can do that at AidaFruit.com. And this week, normal week of shows and everything, only difference this week, I think Nome Pedro or JP, one of the two are going to be hosting show and tell. No disruption in shows or services, we just mix it up. Yeah. So it's not the same folks hosting the show every week. And Lady Aida, take it away when it's on your desk this week. Okay, well let's start with checking out the Cyberrific Cyberdeck PCBs. So these PCBs just came in on Friday, which means it's already the manufacturer. So this is the Cyberdeck bonnet, so it's in a panel. As you can see here, it's panelized. It's got this really cool silk screen from Phil B. They told him, like, go cyber. And like, I think we said, like, make it ginormonic-ish. I think that's what kind of what we recommended. But there's, you know, the hack the planet from hackers. It's got two Stemma QT ports, two Stemma ports, because there's all the space in the middle. This is where you plug your hat or bonnet into, and this plugs into the Pi 400 using the angled header that we showed off earlier. If people really want to see it, they can probably dig out a piece of angled header. And then this is gonna be selective soldered back here. It's got some cool silk screen on the back with VR gloves. They're always pointing and grabbing. And then optical discs, also very cyber. And then we've also got the hat version. So that was the bonnet, right, which is like a Raspberry Pi zero style size. And this is the full hat size. So this would be for like a full, you know, standard display. In fact, I have this, this key belt that I've shown off for something else. This would plug in here. And then you would have this plugged into your Pi 400. So Ditto, it's basically the same schematic. There's a Cyber Dolphin, which is always cool to have. And then same kind of back silk screen. So I told him, yeah, don't try to like come up with a new silk screen for each side. Cause it was, it was taking a while. I wanted to fill be a break. He was doing really good job with this silk screen. So, you know, these two panels here, hold them up so you can see how big they are. We're gonna run these this week. So we should have these in the shop. We got a bunch of those angled headers in, which was the thing we were really waiting for, the custom angled headers. And we'll put this in the shop and then you'll be able to plug this into your Pi 400 for cyberificness. Any questions about that? I don't know. Let's see. So far, no. Okay, great. All right, the next thing is a sting on the Raspberry Pi topic. Why don't we jump to my computer? So this week was exciting. We released the Feather RP 2040. Folks, you didn't get one. We only made a very small batch to start. We were making more, believe me, there's tons being made. Sign up and we're gonna be over the next week or so, churning them out and notifying people. So worry not if you did not get it. One of the things that we realized as, we were working on the Feather RP 2040 is, I didn't realize that flash memory, if I wanted to use four or eight megabyte flash memory, it wasn't available in two by three USAN. And so that's the size that I used on the Web-V on the Itzy-Bitzy. So let me open that up and I can show it off. Whoa, eagle cat? Okay. So this was the size of the flash. It was just very small. I mean, compared to the chip here, let's turn on the T-docus layer. I don't know how big this is. So compared to the chip, this flash chip is really small. This is the size that we use on a lot of our tiny boards. And it's two megabytes. And usually two megabytes is a good amount, except on the RP 2040, we take half of that for the firmware. So we really wanted to have like four megabytes at least. Two was just a really, a little bit too small because you'd only get half of that one megabyte for user file storage. So we wanted to go with four megabyte or eight megabyte. And I didn't realize it because I don't like, you know, whatever I spaced that if you want to get four or eight megabyte size flash, it doesn't come in this package. I guess the die actually is larger. So knowing that I had to redesign this. So this is a lot of 06 of three parts. So it got a re-spin into a lot of 0402 parts. These parts got smaller. This chip shoved over a little bit to give more room. These two buttons kind of split apart. And then this is the new flash chip. So you can see it's a lot larger. This is a four by four WSON. It can be four megabyte, eight megabyte. There's still two buttons. I added this cute little diode. The diode lets you use the boot button as a user buttons because like I'm there anyways, I had a little bit of space. So I shoved it in there. So that got redone and also the cutie pie also got redone. So same thing, you know, I originally had it with two by three use on. And then, you know, realized after doing the layout and the prototype worked great. I was about to ship it out and realized, oh, I gotta revise this to be a larger flash chip. So here's the larger flash chip. It fits neatly between the two mounting posts for the USB. This is the bottom of the board. Same little diode thing added to test points. So I will be doing another prototype run with these two boards. But here's the good news. You're gonna get four or eight megabytes of flash on the CutiePire Itsy Bitsy RP2040. Hey, you know, learn something new every week that's what I learned last week. So those two designs are getting done. I mean, there's eventually just gonna be more and more. I mean. More and more what? RAM. Flash, yeah. Flash, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like eventually maybe there will be flash chips that are even bigger that fits a smaller, but you know what, it's always fine to go big because it's like on the feather RP2040, I use a wide SYC on purpose. And that means I can use any size flash chip. And in the end, we shipped with eight megabytes and people are digging it. So, cool. So that's that. What else did I have on the list? It was with the CutiePire. And then, oh, I have another. It's totally not out yet. Don't ask. So I was working on a little bit of home automation projects. And remember I made that feather ESP32S2. But while I'm waiting for the ESP32S2 mini modules to come out, because that design is actually done. I'm just waiting for the modules to be available for purchase because to make the feather, I'm using the little miniature ESP32S2 modules. They're not quite available for large purchases yet. So I thought like, oh, what if I made something that's perfect for a little home automation and it's a little house shaped PCB. It's just like my prototype just to get the layout going. On the back is an ESP32S2 and there's a USB-C over here. I've got three analog input ports for sensors or proximity or like a water sensor. I think I got a water sensor kicking around here somewhere. One question that we need to do. Do we have any updates for the NeoPixel Trinkie? The PCBs are ordered. I'm just waiting for them to show up. So when those come in. Yeah, it's an update. So this is the World Rover ESP32S2 and it's got a TFT over here. Oh yeah, it's a STEMI QT connector. This is the boot button. Not a lot of stuff on the back to be honest, but you can see this cool hatched ground. That's because I'm doing capacitive touch. This is the first time I'm doing capacitive touch with the ESP32S2. It has native capacitive touch. So I was like, let's try it out. I don't know what's gonna happen. So what I did is on the front, we're gonna make a nicer silkscreen, but for now I'm like, it is a house. Look, there's a door and there's like a little shrubbery or something and there's like maybe lights on the roof or something. And there's like a light on the door. So there's capacitive touch buttons. So these three are capacitive touch buttons and this is a capacitive touch slider. So I've never really made a slider before. So it's kind of interesting to try out. There's a doorbell and the doorbell is the reset button and then this is a buzzer. So it's like the doorbell buzzer and then there's a humidity and barometric pressure sensor. So right now I just have it basically working with Circuit Python. I just have like a really basic example program. Oh, and there's a couple of buttons here too. So when I move the slider up and down, you can see, I don't have like really great resolution for the slider. It just goes from one to eight, but that could be like good enough. And then, you know, when I touch this button, left button or the right button, and then there's some tactile switches as well. And then I just have the dot stars kind of doing this like little crazy thing going on here. And then this is an on-off switch. So the idea is that this could be like a little home automation thing that would, you know, has Wi-Fi so it can send sensor data or read stuff or control stuff that you would then connect to like home assistant or something on your Raspberry Pi. So this is still like being thought out. I'm still working on it, but just brought up the hardware this weekend and so far so good. Like the hardware came up, TFT came up. So one thing that's kind of cool is, I don't think, hold on, for the bootloader, oh, I don't think I have the bootloader installed. But when we, I do have the bootloader, we have a TFT screen on the bootloader as well. I thought I got it working. I think I didn't tell it which pin is the bootloader pin. But yeah, so it's gonna be all circuit Python and like sensors and sending over Wi-Fi. So kind of like a little bit like the MagTag, but, you know, with a TFT screen, and it won't be battery powered. You'd have to plug it in because it's, there's too much power being drawn by the TFT. Okay, so that's, it's not how you get it, so don't ask. I mean, you can ask, but you're probably not gonna get it. Okay, well, I'll do a question real quick if I can answer this one. Sure. One of the Kiko's feedback in stock. We don't know. We don't know when we get them. Here's what I'll say, because I think this is one of those opportunities for how companies can serve their customers and communities better. So you can place an order on other websites and they'll take your money, but you're not getting a Piko because they'll do back orders that can last forever. And then when they come in another store is in other sites, you'll race around to these other sites, then you'll try to cancel your other order and they don't wanna cancel it or maybe you're already charging all the stuff. So I think for the community, one of the things you can do is find websites that handle it maybe like Adafruit does, which is you sign up and you get an email when we get them in stock. And yeah, sometimes we sell it before, you know, you can get a chance to order it. But if you order something on Adafruit, that means it's in stock and we're shipping it unless there's like, you know, some inventory error or something. But like basically we decided let's design Adafruit. So when you're placing the order, it means that it's shipping immediately. We had it in stock. I think one of the things that happens is there's a land grab when Raspberry Pi or even, you know, there's other, I'm supposed to say Raspberry Pi, but there's been other electronics where like, it's been- Like high demand. High demand and we could have done that for some stuff, but we don't do that. Like when we launch a new product, like a MagTag or something like that a lot, it's very popular, people want it. So I think one of the things you could do is support the companies that are only going to ship stuff when they have it in stock and maybe we can move some of the companies to go to that model. So, you know, I think it causes a lot of people to be really mean to customer service people. And I'm not talking about Adafruit. I'm talking about these other companies because they see it on Twitter and everything. And they're like, oh, I bought it. You know, I ordered it two months ago. It still hasn't shipped. Yeah. And they're really mean to everybody. And- It's like a Kickstarter for every product. Yeah. Why would you do that? Yeah. And if you look on Kickstarter, you know, a year goes by and people are like, I invoke my rights. A spell they cast. So one thing you could do is you could just be like, hey, like companies that sell Picos, for instance, why don't you have a sign up list? And when it comes in stock, then- And we're also very fair. We only notify like the number of people that we think would actually purchase it. So like you don't, we try hard to make sure it isn't like, if we get 10 in stock, we're not going to notify a thousand people. This is gonna be, you know, the PS5 of you still can't get it. You know, there's video cards. You still can't get them. There's a lot of scarcity for electronics right now. There's a lot of problems, just making it a lot for the demand. So I think when you know that, when you know the demand is always going to be higher than the supply, what can you do that reduces the friction and makes it less of a burden on the people who want the thing? Anyways, so- That's what we do. So that's what we do. Yeah. And it's worked out really well. And you know, although you can't, if you place an order on a site that will take back orders, you'll never know when it's gonna ship. If ever, for Adafruit, when you place that order once you get the notification email, you know for sure you're gonna get it. Yes. So, anyways- And we even have a thing where we stash stock. We have always a couple extra in stock that you can't purchase. So if your order like gets lost in the mail or it gets damaged, we can replace it. So we have like a tricks even to make sure that people can get the thing that they want. We do that. So a couple of people are like, yeah, they like their RP2040 feather. They order it and they got it. They signed up for it. It's totally real. We put them in the stores and they got it. And we also like to do things where like if you watch Ask an Engineer and we can put something in stock that's high demand during the show, we do that. So, you know, it's kind of like if you go to a concert back in the day, we will again, there's certain things that there's live music is worth watching. It's good to support the band there. We do that too with Adafruit stuff, JP's product pick of the week. We do a sale live from the product page. So anyways, it's just like, it's just another way to think about how we're doing stuff as a company, as a community. Yeah, we don't like to do like weird trickery where it's like you order but it's really a back order. It's like, if you order it, it's in stock. That's, I think it's, it's honest. And we have distributors and sometimes if we don't have it in stock, check DigiKey, check our other distributors, but like we try to be, there's no like, oh, order now, you'll get it in four to six weeks. It's like, no, it's going to ship in a day or two. Oh, well, this is for not out yet, so you can choose if you want to answer it. For the little smart home thing that you showed off. Yeah. Can it talk to smart speakers or does it need a Raspberry Pi to go in between? It wouldn't, it doesn't do audio on its own, it's just Wi-Fi. If there is an ESP32-S3 World Rover module, probably in six months, eight months, I'll upgrade this to add Bluetooth support, but even then I don't think it has Bluetooth classic, I think it only has Bluetooth flow energy. So you probably have it control your Raspberry Pi, which is running AirPlay, which I think is built into Home Assistant. Like Home Assistant does a lot of this stuff. Okay, what's next? Okay, so next up, absolutely everybody at Everett, except for like me, is really into mechanical keyboards and they kept being like, hey, why don't you make like mechanical keyboard stuff? And I'm like, oh, yeah, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. And then finally, I'm like, fine, I'll take a look at this stuff. So I started looking at like kale switches and cherry and mech switches and keycaps. These are some parts from a Kibo kit because I was kind of interested like, you know, what's, I know that there's like cherry and mechs and there's like equivalents. And so I just would have to like whatever I design I want to make sure that it's, it's with affordable but good quality. So these are kale switches and keycaps and these are, these are very cute. These are for Pymoroni. And then the technique that they use, a lot of people told me like, oh, check out the kale sockets. And I was like, oh, these are kind of cool. So these are little, because the problem is that like, you know, these you have to hand place and solder them. But what you can do is you can pick and place these little sockets and they're only a few cents a piece, like 10 cents a piece. And then what you can do is you can press fit in a key so here I've got one key press fit but I can, I can show the process. So on underneath of the key, there's this mounting nub, a centering nub and then the two contacts. Normally this is a press fit into a PCB and then selective soldered or hand soldered. But the sockets, you know, you, you can use a mechanical like there's a mechanical plate to keep the socket steady but it does, you know, it does sit in place between the, the nubbin and the socket. You can see the two nubs go into the socket thingy. It sits quite well. Some switches also have two more centering nubs here. You can see there's one big nub and then two on the side. And then these switches, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm nowhere from not doing RGB blinky stuff. So these switches have little slots. These are normally for like three millimeter LEDs that was soldered through. But what you can do instead of having a through hole LED is you just have, cause this is opaque. It was white plastic is opaque. But if you can have something that shines through, right? You can get RGB, you know, lighting into the key cap, right, which acts as a little bit of a diffuser. So that's kind of cool. And you've seen like mechanical keyboards that do this sort of thing. And then I thought back, you know, when I was showing off this like a month ago, these reverse mount neopixels, I remember some people were saying, oh yeah, you know, you can use those with, you know, some people are using those for keyboards. They're really popular in keyboards. I was like, oh, well, that's handy. So let's, let's pull these out again. Cause I got these samples and then so this, let me get like really close cause they're so small. So this, this little LED, it's so small. It's actually not focused. So this little LED is, it's a neopixel. This is like the ground data in data out power. And it comes on the real like this actually to pick and place it up and down, right onto the PCB. And the neat thing about these is we see here on this design has a dot star LED on the top, which I'd like to avoid. If possible, it's best for me to be able to have all the components on the bottom because then the keys sit flat, the socket's on the bottom and the LED's on the bottom and I only have to put it through the pick and place once. Like anytime I have to put something through the pick and place twice in the oven, you know, you just, you just took more time. There's more risk of failure. Parts can fall off, parts can come askew. Single sided is the way to go, right? If I can do it. So these could be my little secret, right? Cause this is like just about the right size to fit, you know, to light up through here. In fact, I just sort of dropped it in there to show it. It's like it's the right, you know, if it's centered right underneath this little slot, this NeoPixel, which is quite bright will do a good job lighting it. I even have a, maybe I could wire up a demo real fast because I don't think- So a couple of people have some things about keyboards. Yeah, tell me about your keyboard. Your keyboard dreams. Your keyboard, say, Cherry switches aren't considered that great. The Gatrons? Yeah, there's- Is it Kale's? Kale's. Kale's are way better. And then someone says, gotta try the Kale box series with click bars. Yeah, I'm trying, I'm getting all that stuff. So this is the, this is like very fine wire, but you can see this is, and this is like, you know, not full brightness. So these are quite bright. And this through here is gonna look freaking awesome, right? Super cool. And then with the diffused diffusion top, this, you know, it'll light up pretty nicely. Not the whole thing, because again, it is only like from one side, but you know, it will light up the key. So I'm liking this. So I'm gonna get a reel of these LEDs, which I showed off earlier. And I was like, oh, like it's just interesting for it. I thought, honestly, I thought that these reverse amount LEDs would be more interesting for some other, there's some other stuff I thought they would be interesting for. Although now that I think of it, you know, maybe I should revise my neotralysis to use these because the 35 by 35 millimeter, 3.5 by 3.5 millimeter neopixel LEDs did cause a little bit of like weirdness if they had to be perfectly centered. And if there's any variation in the elastomers, they were, they're all funky. Anyways, so I'm starting to, you know, put together some pieces. Yes, you know, I might not use literally cherry MXes. These are Kales, I'll probably use Kales or Gatron's mostly because, you know, people seem to like them and I can get them, you know, in large quantities. That said, I thought maybe I'd just show off some of the designs that I came up with and then we'll jump into the great search. So let's go to my computer. So the first thing I did is just like the basic breakout, right? Cause I gotta like, I gotta figure out what is my, what's my process here? So, so it's a little tough to see. Maybe I'll turn off the B place a little bit. So this is the top of the switch and this is the switch itself. You can see this is the square part of the switch. And this is that slot that is in the bottom of the key. So this is the mounting hole. This is the socket here. This tab over here, this is the socket and that's why there's a hole here, not a contact is cause it goes through the PCB. This is the slot. So this is actually a cutout and you can even see the four pads of the NeoPixel. So then maybe let's, let's look at the back and flip this around. So this is the back of the PCB. So here you can see the socket. So this is the socket. This is the socket. This is the diode. Just means the diode you put in line just so you could, you can more easily put it in a matrix if you wanted to, although I don't think people will be using this matrix. Basically it was like for two cents I'll put a diode in, why not? This is the reverse mount NeoPixel with this slot. You have to have a cutout. What size cutout? I don't know, I drew this and we'll see how it goes, right? Prototypes and prototypes. And then I sort of made like little breakouts here. This is 0.6 inches apart. So you should be able to breadboard this. And I kind of designed it so that you, you know, you have to connect power and ground, but then the output of one NeoPixel can go to the other one so you can change them together. So this would be for like breadboarding, like a couple keys, just on like a solderless breadboard or a perf board or something. Like a one key breakout. Still a capacitor here. You know, power it from three or five volts and you can, you know, make your own little, little switch breakout. Then I thought maybe to make a feather wing because that's always good for prototyping. So what did I call this, NeoKey? I'm still thinking of a name, but I kind of came up with NeoKey just so I can have a power. So far, no objections to NeoKey. Okay, look, I don't know. We're gonna talk about it. We had ideas. So this is a two key feather wing. Three keys doesn't fit. And I wanted it to be within the feather wing shape. So you can see one key here, one key here. You know, they're 0.75 inches apart. Same KL socket over here. KL socket over here. NeoPixel, NeoPixel, key A, key B. They're connected by default to pins, you know, five, six, nine, but you can cut the traces and then wire them to whatever doesn't break out for every pad. So if you want to do custom, but I thought like for most people, you know, they wanna stick this on a, you know, a blue fruit feather wing or like a blue feather or a Wi-Fi feather and ESPH-266, you can make a quick little NeoPixel controlled two key thing. And you can, you know, just to get you going. And then if you really want, you know, put two feather wings side by side in doubler and you can wire them up to different pins. So this is just a little, like a double key. And then Phil recommended doing a four key thing. So this is four keys in a row. Whoops, that totally didn't work out. So this is four keys. And this is a STEMA QT breakout. So what I'm gonna do is have a seesaw chip, a little SAM-D10, that'll take I-Squared-C commands, read them, convert them to NeoPixel and keypad reads. So like you'll be able to read the four keys and write the four NeoPixels over I-Squared-C. And the reason I am doing seesaw and not like an AW like 95, 23 or other GPIO expander is because I want to have a lot of address pins so that people could have like eight of these basically. I just wanna have like a ton of address pins so that they can have a lot of these chained together so you could, you know, make like custom grids of any size really. And I was, I wanted to do this instead of like having like 15 different sizes of like keys. I feel like a one by four, it's like you could then make, you know, one by eights or like four by fours or three by fours, you could kind of like go to town. And then just chain them together with Stema, which would be like so cute and then change the address and you're good to go. So those are my three ideas to start with. So I'll get those going. I'll probably start with just the single breakout just to like, you know, work out the socket and like how to pick in place and source and this is like reverse NeoPixel Mount thing. So that's kind of what I'm doing there. So any questions before we get into the great search? Yeah, it looks like the NeoKey name and reminds them of NeoGeo, NeoKeyo, DuoKeyo, QuattroKeyo. Yeah, okay. All right, cool. Well, we rambled for a bit. So let's go, let's get on to the great search. Where are you? All right. Every single week, LadyAda and DigiKey bring you the great search. This is where LadyAda uses her powers of engineering to use the DigiKey site. This segment's brought to you by DigiKey, thank you, DigiKey. LadyAda, what is the great search this week? I'm glad you're asked. This week, we just talked about designing some Cherry MX compatible switch projects working on this NeoKey prototype. And I want to get started quickly. And so to make sure that this stuff all works with Cherry MX switches, I was like, oh, I should just pick up a couple Cherry MX switches. You know, I'm going to put in a DigiKey order tomorrow. I'll just toss in some Cherry MX switches. And I realized like, hey, I should show people you can get Cherry MX switches from DigiKey. You don't have to like go to a special keyboard site, support your local keyboard site, but you can also just add a couple to your DigiKey order. You can also get sockets, and I'll show this off as well. So, you know, this search in particular is not going to be that exciting because you just type in Cherry MX and I just search the phone and stuff. Yeah, there's kind of like, it's it. So there's a couple of different switches and here's the options you have in stock and you're probably like, what's the difference between these? Well, some of them have like a little panel mount lip it looks like, but there's basically the clicky type and the non-clicky type. And blue is clicky. So if you go over here, you can even see audible click is the type for the blues, the blue stem, and then black or linear. And they have a lot in stock and what I also thought was cool is they have, they have the 3D, the 360 view. So you can like, this is kind of neat. You can like rotate this around so you can see the bottom. They're a really nice 3D model. So for the, oh, it's interesting. This has, you can even see there's a little marking on the bottom that's like for the diode. And then nice mechanical diagrams. I will say like not all keys have really good mechanical diagrams, the Cherry MX's do. There's also, like I said, the blue type. So for these, they have a clicking sound and you can like pick them up, they're basically like 70 cents a piece and you can kind of get like tens of thousands immediately. So if you just need a lot of Cherry MX switches and they're like genuine cherries, you are super set. Another thing I saw while I was looking for switches is people on some like keyboard reddits talking about sockets for these. So you can actually, you know, instead of soldering in the pins directly, you can solder in these like ultra slim Milmax sockets and then use those as mechanical sockets to place and replace your keys. So if you start with Cherry MX blacks and then you're like, now turns out I want blues or vice versa, you like the clicky, you don't like the clicky. So there are two series you wanna look for. It's the Milmax 7305s and the 7305s Oh, hold on, I told you, Milmax 7305, that's weird. Let me try the main search, Milmax 7305. Oh, I can't type. Fourth time's a charm, Max 7305. Why is it taking me to the LED? Weird, okay. Anyways, maybe excited to have a dash. But the Milmax, so, you know, they're not designed for use with the Cherry MXes, but they work great. So these, the 7305 series are the gold plate ones. They're gonna be a little bit more expensive and then there's the 0305s and those are the tin plate. Some people really want the gold plate, you know, I get it, let me try, if you just go to terminals, pin receptacles, and I search for Milmax and then under series, I'll select 73. 05 and then 03, oh my goodness, there are so many pins. 0305, they're really similar but yeah, one's gold and one's tin, you'll pay more for the gold and then you can get different contact finish thickness. I don't think you really need more than 10 micro inches, but let me see what's available. So in stock, you can get the 7305, let me see this one. Oh, they're actually both gold finish, one is, oh, they're different lengths, so there's ones that are a little bit longer, but this is the one that I pretty much saw when linking to. So if you're gonna pick up the Cherry MX switches and you want to hot swap them, pick up also the 7305-0-1515, 4727-10 or the DigiKey part which is much shorter, it's the ED-1039 ND from Milmax and you'll need two of these per switch, but the good news is you don't have to change the footprint that much, I think you just want to make the hole, like the hole is just a little bit larger, but this looks like, let's look at the datasheet. Let's see if that downloaded, nope. Oh, no, it's probably gonna have my app blocker. But if you, sorry, for the inner diameter, you'll just want to make sure that when you're using these with your switches that the switch pins have to be square, they can't be rectangular, so for example, like Kale and other switches won't fit as well because these, if you look, they're like, they really need to be like a square pin connector, but for Tri-MX, which is apparently they work really great, so those are my two recommendations. You know, I basically was looking for these anyways to put together my keypad design, so I'm gonna pick up some of these, I'm gonna try out these quick sockets, you do have to hand place them, but then you can solder them in place and a lot of people use these for existing keyboards that they want to turn into hot swap keyboards and that's my great search. All right. All right, some follow-ups. Okay. Maybe this can be for your future one, how does one find a two millimeter to 2.54 millimeter header converter, be for a future one, or you can use- Oh, well we have these cables that you can use. There's no real converter, but you can, I think we have these two millimeter socket cable, I don't remember what it was called. Yeah, these, I use these, I mean like- Okay. They're okay. Did that search also cover Cherry-Compatible? I don't think the Digikey stocks Cherry-Compatible, I couldn't find any, but they definitely had like genuine Cherry-MXs because they, people have been using them, before mechanical keyboards, people have been using them for all sorts of like interfaces. Dang, she did not download. They're weird. I'm clicking it, it won't download for me. All right, well, calling it here. Yeah. All right. That's our show for the Sunday. Thanks everybody. It's gonna be a clicky time, so stay tuned and you'll see as I design these fun keyboard accessories and send over your favorite keyboard projects. Yeah, we'll have stuff for feathers, for Pico's, for RP2040's, you name it, we'll have it, stay tuned. See everybody during the week on all the shows and thanks for supporting me for it. Thanks everybody. Bye bye.