 Sarah Schwartz, Kathy Shane, no audience or staff here. They shall later rule allow them to comment. So we're going to go right on to the presentation and discussion. So needless to say, I've been thinking a lot about, well, what do we take to the count instead of a working document? So that whole thing of just the goals from last time, to me, that's what we take to the council for action. It is on the agenda for the 22nd. And so I'll make a presentation about it, talk about our process, and so forth. So we need to agree today to forward that to the council with our recommendation for it. The thing that I think we also give the council, that it gets into the, and that is that whole other sheet made some changes to how I've worded that other sheet. I've moved all of the goals over, as we agreed on them last week, the wording, okay? I've also reordered them in the order we did last week. But then on the second column, I've added something that says referred to, and it's in capitals. And basically that is where we say, okay, which committee is really going to deal with this? And what's the suggestions for activities we've had? But let them come up with their actions. So just like bylaws did already, but CRC is just getting started. Let them come up with their actions. The same thing with OCA, the same thing with rules of procedures almost done. But so in other words, pass it out to our committees so that we're not here trying to second guess what committees are thinking. Does that make sense? So there's, it would be two documents, one will be, here's the rules, okay? I mean, excuse me, here's the goals. And then the second document would be the worksheet. What else would we want to call it? It's from committees for, it's from 418, and then it includes a lot of track changes. I want to clean this up before we send it out. But I did put in the word of what much as I thought we might be finished. I'm not sure we are. Because I think they have to come back to us by a date certain, with their suggested activities in time line. Understanding that they can change. Yeah, so you want each committee to look at what has been done so far. And then design their own activities in time line? I want each committee to look at those goals that are appropriate to that committee. Yes. So in the actual thing, you'll see, for example, the very first one is the Amherstown government establishing reform government. I don't have a, to me in many ways, maybe that is us. Yeah, we're a committee of the whole. Yeah, right. The second one is, of course we've said let's subsume that above. And so that's again, the committee of the whole. Then forming the economic. Establish economic. Oh, I see. Establish. It's quite a second. And that also gets assumed into that. But my assumption's going to be that the recommendations for that will come from CRC. So it's not the absolute thing that I do? Absolutely. I think we might want to do it, which is different than all these other goals. Because we really want to do it. So I don't even know where I go with that. Does that become an activity under something else? It just feels different than we have to do an abyss assumed under the town council. Consider establishing, you know, like we're trying to figure out whether we need, you know, what it would do, because we'd be establishing a new town like. Or reestablish it before it was, yeah, there was one. Two people said it didn't work, but I don't even know what they were. Yeah, I would learn to, you know, it's like. In disregard of that. You know, but it's what was the, yeah, so I would just move it. Make sure you understand what my goal is by the time we're done today. My goal is to have the one sheet that we say, yeah, here's the goals. We, the committee recommend to the council that you adopt these goals. The second is to give to the council, not for adoption, but this worksheet and basically for each of the goals, be able to say this goal is being referred to this committee for them to look at what we thought about, but come back with their solid plan. Yup. So you want to say refer to or send to each committee? Refer to respective committees. So let's not try to refer to the first one. The next one is the goal of public engagement and communication, develop and adopt processes that encourage broad resident participation. Welcome. Still establishing that, but we'll, we'll, we'll. Oh, yeah. No, but you're, this, all you're going to do then is come back to us for a plan. Right, right. Of how you're going to do that. Right. Not what you're going to do, but I just, you know, and the terms of the way this would look, that first whole set of where we're, where we're appointed, all of that disappears. Yes. And we have something that says referred to OCA, OCA, and then you see OCA, OCA, OCA, OCA on each of the tasks, right? That's what you're imagined. You know, because otherwise it's duplicative in a way, the first row of column two duplicates, you know, I mean, like under it referred to, and then the suggested activities flow underneath it, then it's OCA, OCA, OCA, OCA is doing all the work. Mm-hmm. So in a way, we're, yeah, right? Let's see why you like that, yeah. You know, I mean, so it's clear who is doing the thinking. So I think that structure works, okay. And I'm just, now let me throw a little wrinkle on it, okay? Because what we don't have here is an appointments goal. And I raise the issue, should we have a separate goal for appointments? But also comes under establishing a town government. Because there's where all the standing committees are. All right, so. Budget and fiscal. Establish an annual calendar, blah, blah, blah. And we said, well, maybe we need a separate one for JCPC. I wrote a little note that said, I think this needs to be under budget and finance. I think so too, I think. Maybe, so I think it's just not. You know, since I get in, I'm so imbued in these rules. I think just because they're saying this is a, they're tasking themselves to do this, as opposed to this is their general role as the legislature. So I don't care, but I'm thinking, what is the committee in the whole of it's all of us? So under that, maybe I should remove finance committee? Yeah, and you know, it to me, a responsible party is the only thing finance is gonna do is at the point there's money involved. Something gets referred to it, they're not an actor in it. Right, that is up above anything. Okay, so we're just moving on. So then, I didn't even write one because we didn't have one for the regional school district and adopt assessment plan and budget was what we said. So again, it does seem to me that when we write it, it's a town council committee of the whole. The assessment method, setting the guidelines, then the budget comes back. But that's the real difference is there's an actor there that's helping the council. Because it's the money. So you know what, when it stays on assessment and budget, it's finance committee. And then comes the council, they all come back to the council. I mean, and this is more an activity to make that leap you just did going back up in budget and fiscal. You could put a line in his regional school budget assessment that somewhere you have convene public forum on the budget, you could just stick it in one of those. Because we're gonna run this set of activities along your budget and fiscal. But I think what we're trying to do is have a separate, but it'd be fine with me. So let me just make a note up there. These are the high level, so they have to peer. So then higher ed, refer to my question, my question, my question. So I think at this point, that's what's the same thing I was going to say is CRC. When we wrote the charge, it's one line in the charge, right? And basically form working groups, and there could be like one or two counselors from the committee, another one or two counselors that are not on the committee. And the rest of the world, R.O.W., so yeah, so I think that we should. You think that's CRC? Yeah. Wait, do you see how many CRC gets in there? I don't know, why not, for any reason. We're good at setting up some of the things that we're great at. We are. Okay, so then capital plan, projects, adoptive companies, I think it's finance committee and that at some point, if they decide they need a subcommittee on this or something, they can do it. It's true. I mean, that's where we start with the model anyway. Rules of procedure is obvious, that's rules of procedure. There's other, for instance, there's other responsibilities in sewer and water, the Airbnb responsibilities of the legislative body. Do they, do we take this and we put it in transportation, or do we take it and put it up with establishing public authority? We're regularly going to get, and so that's what you're working on. So it's a way of, so to me it's one of these, we're trying to get it off our head and the way we've got, we've made a board of licensure and so it's going to be, because it's different than a lot of other things. So who should go? It'll be GOL that the council voted out and then at least what I'm understanding is most of it moves off the council's. Well, some of it, some of it definitely moves, so some of it stays with our manager and some stays with us. You're thinking like if they only wanted one parking space for an hour, the manager, you know, something like that's an easy one to do, if it's easy just do it. So where else would this go? Well, you see I'm thinking it goes in the same place that we haven't mentioned, water, setting rates, okay, setting rates, setting taxes, et cetera, and it seems to me that that's, let's not get hung up on it, let's just say for the moment it's gone to GOL and after the, after the recommendation comes from GOL then we can work on it. So now we're to the one year and beyond, year one and beyond, they really are the CRC eventually but for the moment it's also in vital review. So it's supposed to say, is that your name? Planning, zoning, subcommittee. Yeah, when you go on to it it's, find it when you go to the planning board and so it's CRC, you know, you don't have to put the subcommittee that much, it will come to us. The entity that he's sending in, I guess it gets referred to CRC. Is that in any way in the subcommittee? And then when we look across several committees? Right, one of the things I was going to say is that CRC is trying to collaborate with the planning board. This is going to be a place where we're collaborating with the House because they have been doing this. Someone's following it, they're following it in some way because it will be in, you know, five months from now maybe. But I thought that was an efficient way for them, what they're doing is trying to set CRC and goals. And you know, GOL, right now we regularly have public committees. It was an odd, it was, the agenda was stunning, right? I'm going to take GOL out of here. I think it's CRC intact. Right. CRC. I'm afraid there's been so long. Well, one of the things that will happen with CRC after each, we're subdividing constantly. But it would be a judgment after what's dominating most of the time. But this is something that I'd like to see. I think we'd like to consider it by the summer or late summer. Okay, so it's considered creating ongoing working. Well, it's an implementation working group that will take the report and its recommendations and see that they get implemented. So we don't under these activities. And just as the select board created this thing you're talking about that's about to end. There's in the rules that you will see when they finally come. We have the, within our ad hocory world, you know, other, you know, it's a thing that's got a limited duration. You're appointing it for a year. You're appointing it for two years. We could do another one of those. I mean, that's in a S what the parking group was. They picked, and it wasn't of the council necessary. I mean, it has the ID on it. It has a whole bunch of people. Yes, I think it would be a mixed group. You'd want the same thing again. It's a work. Maybe some of the same people, but definitely it does present activities. So I added in a step after discuss, review and discuss down the parking study, discuss concerns about damage to the parking and no district. So you stuck it there. That makes sense. Including. And that makes sense. I'm looking at your timeline. That makes sense for us making a decision to do that. We can't see her. Oh, I can't. I'm, she's not, you're not typing in a share point, right? No. So she's sticking it as I understood it, right? But to me fall 2019 seems right because the other one is just closed down and then we're setting up something. Well, the report will come out. Read it. There are some very specific recommendations. Right. And then what do we do? Right. Those recommendations have to pass through time. Right. And implementation. Right. So the very last one is energy and sustainability. And I put ECAC and then CRC. Well, I was going to add CRC. This is the one I sent that has just the goals version three struck out. So I want to make sure this is the, this is the one that we would adopt and recommend. Okay. I think first of all, we want to call it. That is an ongoing. It's a subset. Consider setting one of these. Oh, here it is. You know, consider, right? It's underneath you. Pat, you're right. You just got it as a sub goal under the government. This discussion, or I feel like I know it was involved in the economic development period. Right. Community development is already in the CRC. Right. I was going to suggest that people are willing. The original thought was to create an economic development. Right. And that was its primary function. Right. Community development is established today. I'm going to have no problem with that. And should I just say establish instead of reestablish? Yes, yes, yes. And the question is, should you, to differentiate it from our committees and our subcommittees, do you do a town-wide economic? Establish a town-wide economic. You know, make it clear. We're setting up a new thing that's not us. Not a company. It's not a council. I guess I'd go back and look at your activities, you know, without words missing this, but I like the high, what you're trying to do with this, I think is this high level thing. It's not through every single activity. Right. So we're setting up our committees. We're, we've got a functioning appointment process. You know, so I would, you know, like you could do, we've got this, Tim, we're doing evaluations. We've set up a new committee and we've got a functioning appointment. And you could do them all, a functioning appointment, outweaching communication process. I mean, it's just like we're going to get all of those in place, right? So in one long sentence, rather than each of them as separate, to keep it, instead of each of these things as a separate task. Okay. Here's what I'm going to suggest. Yes. Rather than us trying to... Or you could just make the high level. Right. And this is where I think the goals to this. So the TBD is going to now be... No, I think under the town, I like it under the town government. Is that... I think what George just said is we're putting in place processes. The way we're doing it is now... What is the wording? Maybe... That was, that's a standing committee. Okay. And then that standing committee... OCA. Called OCA. A function. You know, another reason that I say... We have to do that. But we also have to... You know what? What I'm wondering is on... If I didn't have three sub-votes... I'm looking under just the goal. You're on the single sheet. If I'm on just the goals. Right. And the just the goal said Amherstown government, established new form of government. End of sentence. Not three sub-headers. And then over in our worksheet, we have all the things we want to set up. I want to see. Because it's... That would be then town manager evaluation. It was over... Economic development. Because none of the others... None of these others high-level goals do we have all the sub-votes on them. Another... When I read down the others, it's... We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this rather than the four things that are part of it. So it's... I think it's cleaner. To shift those sub-points to the worksheet. Yeah. Yeah. Just leave them over there. And we're saying we're setting up a new government. And hopefully the council will be able to have both of them in front of them. And I know you don't want an adjective, but you could say, Establish a new and great form of government. A new and delightful government. Exemplary. Upstanding. So... I want to establish a new dictator. Yeah. Three sub-things. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. As long as these are on the worksheet. Yeah. As long as they're on the worksheet. How does that feel to you? Do you have the one... You know, because what I like about the others is they're clean. I mean, they're clean, and that... You made a very specific and good point. Yeah. The one page of it says, Here are the draft terms. And under the establish. Okay. But I do too. I do too. I think it needs to be in both places on the worksheet, because it's part of establishing a new form of government. But we're really very specifically saying that we really want to encourage broad resident participation, which we're not saying under... Yeah. And it's very important that it's a goal. I think so too. I like it. I love it. And I like it up and high. Because it's kind of... Because even if it discusses it, it's a burden for all of us. That's right. It is a responsible burden. So I've made sure it's noted under... So Lynn, I just one comment, and then I don't want to work this, but I'm seeing here. Worry about verb or tenses on some of these or something. Oh, always. I'm not... You'll never offend me by anything. Okay. So all I'm saying is if something is ongoing, we're not establishing adopting an assessment plan and budget for the reason that we're adopting assessment plans and budgets. I mean, in other words, if it's ongoing, it's not a one-time thing. So just think on each one of them how you... Improve any budgets, provide guidance for... Those seem to me, they're worded in a way that says ongoing, and then I hit one that says, we did it and we're done. So let's go back with that in mind. It's a very complex, established process. You see, that one to me feels ongoing because you're not finished. You're established. That provides fiscal oversight. Approve annual budgets. They're on a strike, though, and just strike... Yes, you got it, George. That's where it is. That's where my... It's approved annual budget. So would you establish an annual calendar in this world? And then you could go... You could say for future fiscal years. So it's... You're... For future... It's not just next year, but every year we're going to be... So provide guidance for future fiscal years. Right. Yeah. That's all I'm looking for, is that... Right. To with us. This is very specific. We're going to make this... So do we want to look at this in this ongoing way? What would... What is the role of the Town Council in the relationship to elementary school district? Maybe it's to support... Yeah, it does. It's not quite right. This one at least... This one's like... But this one is very specific. We build one or two schools, we're done. And I don't think that we're done Maybe we are because there's a separate... Like, old body. But it does seem to me like... What is the ongoing nature of our relationship with public schools? Our public schools. We've got to be careful here because... Partner with the... What about... Partner with the elementary school districts to continue building educational opportunities? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's something that I'm clearly involved... In the council... Yeah. In the foreseeable future. Right. But at some point that is right. It will be both over and done with it. Yeah. I think that might be a good issue. And I'm not sure we should... We want grade schools. Yeah. So what? That's, I want you to look at elementary school, regional school, and higher ed. And I'm going to suggest that all of them... Yeah. For two years, but it could... But it doesn't keep coming... Just to adopt annual assessment plans and budgets. I mean, it's right, it's annual assessment plans and budget, it's going to happen every year. So with the elementary school district, we have a school committee, and I don't think we should be weighing in here. So a couple of things, we actually don't have an elementary school district unless we merge with talent. We just have elementary schools. We have an elementary school committee district. Do they call it a district when they're doing the school committee? That's what it's called, the district. So they do officially, OK. And are we partnering with the district, or are we partnering with the school committee? So we're still keeping it there. I just don't, we're not literally going to, well, I don't care who we partner with. You know, just whatever. No, in other words, there's something we're working with. And it's the school committee, right? It's the school committee. The school committee to build a new elementary school rules for Amherst. And I was just going to, I have one word possible. I'm not sure I'd like it better to secure a new elementary school, so we're not going to actually build it. We're hoping we can secure, you know, so, you know, like keep it going. So I was going to change it to secure, but I don't really care. I mean, people understand what it is, you know, doing everything we can to make this. We're not going to be overseeing that. We're not going to. I'm assuming it finally gets it. We're not going to be in the design plan for the school. We're not going to be in the construction or the site selection. So we're partnering with the school committee to secure a new elementary school. Yeah, so that's, I was just thinking that that's. So we keep this in on going. I thought we felt reason school just makes every year on going. Right, that's a. That should stay and should be in the school. And maintaining and strengthening relations with the higher ed institutions is on going. So the ongoing thing with elementary schools is we also approved the school budget. You know, we do. They, that's what we, that's what, what we just did a month ago, you know, when we all had the public hearing. It is different because there's not because. It was on the regional budget. Right, but, right. So Mike, the elementary school will just be part of. Part of our regular. Yeah, just like the library. Mike, just like the library. So it is, it's just different because we don't have to go negotiate with four towns over the assessment piece of it. That's what's really if we ran the middle and high school by ourselves, it would be folded in. Okay, so I don't. I was saying there's an element as part of the elementary school just feels strange. It feels strange to separate the education goals. I feel like they're either ongoing or. Well, well, since we're gonna take at least three years together in our elected. In our tenure, it's ongoing. In our tenure, if it's going for all three of the years that we've been elected for by definition. And it will. Right. And maintain and strengthen relations with our higher ed students. It's never off our plate during the time we've just elected for. So we're not certainly not finished in year one because year one will come before we know it. You know, I think in minutes you could be saying we discussed the goals and we find the word and we find the wording for each of goals and refer to respective committees. And I did put something in to discuss what goals are being referred to what committees reflected in finished documents. So I also was thinking I could just have a lot of like we are going to like appointments days with Bulls Ad Hoc Committee, Undertown Governments, set up a list of goals and a worksheet. But like I have all these things when I may just say discussion of activities and goals. And we reflected it in finished, yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I agree because you're gonna have the working draft that we saw at the beginning, the draft that we got at the end. So everyone wants to see what happens. So then we have under year one, we think we're not moving. I'm sorry, what is that? We're not moving elementary, regional, and higher. No, we're leaving them. Under year one, so that doesn't belong here. Poor like year one and the other. You know, one works really well because they all have a period on them. This will happen this year. This will happen this year. Yeah, you just have a capital A under develop and adopt rules and procedures that do the work. Does it develop in housing? And why do I feel different about housing and transportation? I don't know, but housing makes sense to me on transportation, having just set through TAC. Yeah, exactly, really. We're grappling with, we don't have enough money to do what we wanna do. So we're forced to say, what three things can we do this year? What three things can we do next year? And it seems to me the council will have a fairly limited role in that other than making sure the capital budget pays for what we, you know, so it's interactive. We'd like to be making sure. So I just, so I don't have a, you know, so what would be, I do think we should take up what are we doing with buses or not. So maybe I don't feel any different. You know, like when I think of transportation, we're not running the bus system. We're not figuring out which road gets done next. I think the real question, is there going to come a time when we, just like we do in master plan, is there a time when we would set to parallel, and is there a time where we establish plan to develop a comprehensive. We punted on this one. Figure out something about part two. So I guess, so I guess, so I shouldn't even raise this. I think the answer is yes, because on transportation, imagine different kinds of things we would do. So, and the example would be to select board, the adopted complete street, that was a policy. You know, so we would grapple with it. Does that, if we're going to have a policy on the books, are we going to enforce it, and what does that mean, right? Yeah, so I take it back. I feel the same way. Okay, so let me do, I've got to go out to some of the way. No, so I'm good with this. Under the housing, transportation, and marketing. Okay, I'll basically say the same thing. Yeah. That we're going to review, develop, and adopt. Yeah. Yeah. A comprehensive. I'm even happy, I'm even happy. And review and adopt. I have to say, I would be happy with dropping comprehensive, but I like review, develop, and adopt. But I'm fine if you want to keep in comprehensive. And I say, maybe I feel different about housing, because on transportation, because we're the town of Amherst and not the state of Massachusetts, I need, I think we need a train going over to Boston, you know, we need, no, no, no, we've got things that don't work, because there's not a bigger, we are not in control of transportation in the same way, but we could be. So I should take, so leave it in, leave it in, leave it in. So you could change it. Yeah. So that's fine, leave the adjective in. So all of them are going to say, wait a minute, George. So all of them are going to say, review, develop, and adopt a comprehensive plan priorities. For the first two years. How about the next one? Parking, he wants to talk. Well, I just, I thought I haven't had a great time. I don't know what to do with the local think opinion. I like, I, at this moment, just need to do the helpful parking strategy. But even that, I mean, what's that? I mean, do you have issues in North Amherst to your dressing? Do you have issues downtown you're doing? Could, one of the things when I think about this, getting to the point that our bylaws for new buildings require certain numbers of parking spaces per unit or something. Or something like that. Or that they, I'm not saying it's the way it would end up, but that parking is taken into consideration with the building of new housing. Nice. I'm not saying there's a magic formula. I don't think too along with us like we should have, like this is our vision, this is what we're thinking. And then, that's your master plan. Just be silent as a major. Parking and falls and stuff like that. I'm still playing with it. Yeah, me too. I mean, I keep thinking about the gateway, the new tax, the gateway stuff. And it talks about the necessity of shared parking and new development in the city area. And shared parking, important goals. So is shared parking part of our idea of parking strategy? Also going back to our original, literally, the translation of our original butcher paper. Right. And it was there. But it was only downtown. Right. Well, except they're going to, go ahead, sit right there. You know what? I was just going to say, I feel like there are issues growing in North America. Totally do. There is a development there. So I'm going to say about that, because it's something that is really considered and creating, you know, like the best town ever, the most resilient or strong town ever, like, and even to the point where you talk, people are really talking about what kind of structures do we do away with? Really big piece of planning. That's true. So I think it just is a parking ride. And I'm thinking about, they talked about changing it so that it could be used for community gatherings and things like that. So there was a sense of using different materials in the lot instead of asphalt. So that, to me, again, is like what you're saying. It's a strategy. It's an idea. But we've had, you know, that, because then you're not trapped with a parking lot if we ever get to the place where we're less hard dependent as a community. We certainly want to have these conversations. Yeah, so would you, you know, figure it out? So could we have an establishing and developing a flexible parking strategy for they workable? A workable, yeah. But there's even, that's, I'm not sure. See, I put it unworkable and inflexible, Chris. Is this just your torturous, your, a comprehensive, or I'm probably not. Exactly. I don't want to get people's attention in there. Otherwise, this just says, yeah, you know, right. I'm probably going to have a problem. But it isn't just that. If you put downtown and village centers, I think it solves some of their problems. You know, it's where the density comes in that the, although there's on-street with, can you park on the street and I'll park, and all the neighborhoods. I mean, I'm trying to like, it's everywhere. It's literally everywhere. Some companies are literally in what we're doing with cars and not cars. Like that is literally a growing, really big, very different, and I've felt this is pointing so fair with me. Like, that's actually something that is like, in and of itself, like this big, separate, evolving ball that goes with the CRC. There's a subcommittee, but then the, the new town government is something that's aware of and sort of like at some level overseas. So I think you're saying that the wording, that I think you're wording that you still would like review, develop, and adopt. I mean, it is like we're, you know, we're trying to include, there's no reason not to oppose this. So we say innovative? We expect it to be all of that. So right now I have reviewed, developed, and adopted. George doesn't want to be on this train. No, no, no. Who is there? But you know what, it's that of a, I don't know if it's that of other existing committees or existing, not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the comp grants a plan has multiple addresses it in multiple ways. Exactly, when you start saying policies, I really did. Alright, so we, we just. So George doesn't like the plan the strategy and he's, No, I'll tell you, So here's. You can try to speak on it too, right? It's, you can be the audience So what's interesting about this is the emails you've been getting on, what is our policy for where Uber can pick you up and leave you off. That's a part of the thing. Is this thing up with us wrong again? No, no, but then the thing we said and then TAC, where they warned that these motorized scooters, sometimes now they said you should think of that people are going to be on motorized bikes that don't go very fast, little scooters. So all of that's on the streets we've got out here. Where do you park your scooter? Oh my God. And they talked about how many are likely to be on airmars compared to Holyoke. Some of the things that happen also here is you, while you're saying, ah, no, no, no. So I think that's... But I hear what you're saying and you're right. Let's leave it and... Because I think what you're doing... So it is... It's like we're not going to have one plan that works for the next five years. We're going to have to be constantly... We're going to have to be constantly... Scooters are coming. What are we doing with scooters? Uber's parking in front of them and getting tickets. Suddenly... So it becomes one of these things. Anticipating what the next thing is... Yeah, because that takes away your view. I do. Because you're not going to start talking about the parking on a black L2O. No. Or on only dry places. Except when it's near your house. Yeah. That's what we talk about. I mean, I'm in contact with... I just sent you this marked-up version. I want us to at least get this adopted. We're going to have to tell. We're going to have to tell. Okay, so I know. That's good. That's all right. It doesn't work well. You know, I uploaded a document with track changes in it. And it accepted all the changes as if they weren't in it anymore. And I said, well, that's... So just to look and see whether or not we feel like... This is ready for prime time. Yeah. Grant, count counts of goals are recommended. But if I'm counting for goals and... George says it's a lot of words. And the first you can say, count counts of goals. Has it recommended by the goals at the top? So maybe you can get rid of the second count count. It's not the elementary school committee. It would just be the school committee committee. No. So let's go through each one. Okay. That's all right. So... Okay, so I took out town council goals. So it says count counts of goals are recommended by the goals at the top? Yeah. Was this... Sometimes I do save-ass. Oh, yeah. And it's like if I'm taking these down and I said I would take minutes and I would look like... Control plus. Okay. This will probably just delete it because... What does... School district. It says partner with the elementary school committee. I think it should just say school committee. With school committee. Because there's no elementary school committee. Partner with the school committee. I would scratch my head and say... And maybe we'll just have to explain it. But all these seem like ongoing year in and year out. Well, we did say it's going to be minimally a three-year process. But why not just throw it down year one and beyond? Yeah, George, I think you're right. I think you're right. The other things are... We could just say we just finally decided what to do. But it's going to be an objection. Do you want me to move all the education? No. No, just if you made the elementary school... If it said... Instead of if it said elementary school district, it said elementary school. Okay. Four schools. And then partner with... And it made it the very first thing in one year and beyond. It makes... That's our biggie. Like we want to get... Oh, right. And it's still in line with the other two. Right. Because then we have... So I say elementary schools. Yeah. And then it's partner with the elementary school committee to secure it. So that becomes just before master plan. And it's like something we're doing now and... Yeah. Just get rid of elementary school district. Because it's not... I'm taking this out. So elementary schools dash partner with the elementary school. No, with the school committee. It becomes such a cool first one under year one and beyond, right? It's actually concrete. What? Concrete. Right? Yeah. Imagine if... Well, you've got regional schools and you've got higher ed. Where's the elementary school? We'd point down below. And George, the other thing is under budget and fiscal. That's what Lynn was saying is it's unfolded in our annual budget the same way library is. So it comes... Yeah. So it's not a... We're not voting on it separately. Yeah. Year one. The... I have one comment on zoning. And last time when I raised it, everyone didn't think it made sense. So I'll just raise it again. I think some of the zoning things that we'll be considering are going to be proposed by people who have visionary development ideas. And they may or may not be related directly to the master plan. You know, I mean, it's not that they're unrelated, but it's not because someone said, oh, the master plan said this and that's why we've got to do that. So I'm just... So it says to bring in conformity with the master plan. It's like restricting ourselves. So... You know, another... So Steve made a... How about consistent with the master plan? Consistent with the master plan or our vision of what the armors we want. You know, it's... That's the master plan. That is the master plan. I think we're going over the master plan. So maybe we want to... So we may... But I think getting rid of conformity would be... Okay. That would work. Consistent. Consistent makes sense. Yeah. Reviewing the testimony by zoning bylaw is consistent with the master plan. Well, it does... You know, I'm... I wish I had sat in when Northampton was changing theirs and whether they were constantly referencing their master plan or they were saying, we want to do these kinds of development. Here's some reasons why. It brings in affordable housing. It does this or... Did they always reference the master plan or were they saying, we don't have any place for a retiree to live in a condo downtown? And is a condo downtown ever mentioned in the... You know, so it's anchoring it only in the... I don't mind anchoring it in the master plan. So I wouldn't want to do it. Well, what about... If it didn't... If it didn't say... Yeah. And conformity with or consistent with master plan goals. That would be work. Because goals is, again, the larger master plan of goals. Yes. Yes. That works, Pat. That changes my hope because they have high level goals. Right. Okay. Yes. That's very... So then you can say consistent with master plan goals. Right? Yeah. That fixes my concern. Yeah. Everybody thinks something different when they see it. And see, that's... And it helps me because at the goal level, you can imagine other things that went underneath that goal that you didn't have to mention those things. Yeah. That solves my complete... So what's the worst that you do? So review, assess and revise zoning bylaws. Consistent with master plan goals. Because ultimately it's what Lynn puts in her document. So, yeah. And I think that everything that... I'm just going to have it in there just in case, but I did pretty much... I'm just pretty much going to say that we discussed goals. Right. We discussed activities. And please see the revised documents. Yeah. Yeah. I was just taking some of the stuff down one for me. Oh, that's good. And also like in case anything seems so... So housing, review, development and adopt a company. What do you do slash priorities? Is that just to make your sentence shorter? Because if it said and priorities, two things you thought of. You know, so if I... I'm just... I think all I'm saying is instead of a slash, put the word and. That's fine. So plan and priorities. Do you want to say and set priorities? No. I think... It said adopt priorities. You know, so I'm looking back at the original verb. George, I think adopt priorities I think still works, right? That's fine. Adopt plan. Yeah, same thing. That's parking. Yes. That makes it easier to say you've got a plan and priorities. So the plan might be the 40-year plan, but we're working on it. Not in my lifetime, you know. Let me ask you this. Do you want me to now just accept all changes and send you the next one? Yeah. Yeah, I've been doing mine... The piece of version five. This is the first era. Lynn, I've been typing as we did in the, you know, the... except and it looks really nice. So if you did that, they're going to like it. I think it looks really nice. Those are important. Those are important. Only a couple of these things are more than one line long, which I like. Isn't that annoying? Oh, yeah. Since clearly it's understood. I think it would be very useful when it comes one line. I mean, you can look at it. This is everything that we just did, and then you can keep going. I think... Well, we were just down to energy and sustainability, I believe. You want us to look at version five now? Yes. There you go. Okay, so a couple little... And priorities. You need spaces. So my suggestion now that I see elementary schools, do we need four MRS at the end? Because number one, it's all for MRS. And then, see, that's my delight in one line goals. I get the elementary school down to one line. It won't bother me. So she might suggest on ad hoc if the A is capitalized, the H is also, but I have no idea what... And that's what... Are we using Oxford Commons? I have... Yeah. What did you just say? Oxford Commons. What is an Oxford Commons? So, go ahead. You go. No, I want you to know. No? What is an Oxford Commons? So do you say... If you're making a list of something, so you say... Oh, I always... I always... I've always done Oxford Commons. You can't do both. I just didn't... You can't do both, but it's more correct. I feel those more comparable than you and I. Right. So that's the way I've always done it. And you're the guy who had... This is what I would like to do is... I would like to save this now. I just picked some more. You'll see it. You'll see it. You'll see it. We didn't get really... Put down top in here. Village Centre... Thank you. Reveal, develop and adopt. The conference is downtown in Village Centres. Parking... So take it from the top. If we can find another meeting... Oh, I think they are, but what I want to do then is talk about what do I need to do to get the other sheet ready and then... Move together. Yeah. It would have had to be... When do you... I can't post till Monday. So it's got to be the latest... The earliest it can be is Wednesday morning. Oh, I see. Wednesday the 17th in the morning. I'm sort of... Oh, in that part. So now let's go to the 17th. Thursday morning. We have JCPC... Do we have JCPC? No. No. Thursday morning. There was a trial. So... But we don't need to then... I would only impose that if you need a forth. So we're doing... And copy of... Well, I can't copy everyone. I can just send you... Right. So what I want to do now, though, is I have a separate column that says referred to. Yeah, I'm just looking at... I'm wondering is if the goal was here and then this thing that has all the writing here says referred to here. And then it has activities. And then da, da, da. Then you make a distinction between referred to and then activities include. That's what I tried to do. And just up here you've got the referred to up here. So I'm thinking this red that's there now that was space... Right now it's done in draft form where everything was penciled in here. I'm imagining if that wasn't there. And it said referred to right here. And then it said activities include and then there's the list. But the activities include would be... So I'm trying to... I liked the old column that said activities include. Now you've got referred, but you could still keep that without making another... Well, referred to doesn't have to be a very large column. Why can't it be its own column? So just its own little tiny skinny thing where there's nothing in it. The only thing is you're going to have a goal here with nothing underneath it. Referred to which has nothing underneath it. And then a big long sentence. It's just you're going to get something... You're going to get something that's wider and wider where two of the columns are blank underneath. It's my space conserving on a sheet. Visual. Okay, let me try another idea. Under the goal. That's the other place you could put it. That's the second line. That would work. Underneath, but in the same column. Yeah, then if it's over there, then this column could be... Then this column could be headed the way you had it had it before, would have activities or whatever you call it. Suggested that. Then that solves my problem. That there's something underneath a column. Then what I think we are going to have to grapple with is what are we actually... Under the... I mean we have a group out there figuring out... Your relationship. So it's not an... Come back and tell us the ways we could do it and bring it back and then we make a decision as to what we want to. So that's not part of the new government. Yeah, there's... Just to take an example. The goal is to have committees established with clear jurisdiction and guidelines. I think that's a goal, right? So we don't have to say exactly which... We've set ourselves up, so I wouldn't make it more complicated than that. The goal is that we... So in other words, you don't want the activity to be established standing committees. You want it to be established standing committees with clear jurisdiction and guidelines. Did I see under your... The rows... I'm reading just down. I'm not even adding words. To me, you know, it's already there in three rows down. I like that a lot. You know... So I was reading... It wasn't coming up in the sentence, I was reading. And when you make it broad, you don't use the word standing committees. So you can. We've got ad hoc committees. We've got committees. Whatever we want to get clear jurisdiction and guidelines. Establish. Because they're councils. And I think this with clear jurisdiction and guidelines, we're still working through that. So hopefully in a year we... Accomplish the goals that are here. I mean, we want to go. It's not that we're... We want to set ourselves up with goals. You know, so if you want anything about goals, I would put set goals. Or establish goals. Yeah, just to keep the... But why don't we want to say... We're not saying establish the foundation. I don't think you need it. Establish goals. Yeah, so exactly. Establish and utilize goals. It just seems more... I'm not sure that's what you would want to put, but... We don't even have... We have to set that here. But we're setting up a new kind of government is the goal. So we're putting in place committees that know what they're doing. We're putting an appointment process in place. We're figuring out how to evaluate. And then at the very end we can... Progress through transparency. And we could have the very last thing that set goals to hold us accountable. You could say that. Or we could be silent. All these other things. Every two years. In our case after... No, this, yes. I'm thinking about being held accountable. So I'd like stripping it out for a couple reasons. If we say this is what we want to do and we've got these other things in. You could judge whether we've set up a new town government at the end of the year by whether we have any of these things in place. Then you could come later and say... Have we, in fact, done anything about housing? Have we, in fact, done anything about each of these things? So in essence, we're looking at ourselves the same way we want to... So we don't have to have on the goals to have goals. You got it. You got it. All right. Moving on. Town manager evaluation. Establish process to evaluate town manager. Evaluate town manager. You just have to do it. Right. But is that the next thing in line? In terms of order of things. Yeah. You might point the town manager evaluation way down. Yeah. It's obviously something we need to do. It's obviously important, but I think from the point of view... And when you're looking at it, Lynn, when you go and edit it again, we're more detailed on this than we need to. So you can just figure out what you want to... You know, like, how do we figure out what its goals are? Then we figure out an evaluation process. Then we implement the evaluation places. Then we do the evaluation process. Then we review it. Definitely don't want to share the top. All right. The other thing is that we're now calling these suggested activities because we want either the town council to hold what is it called? Or individual committees. But whatever. But it has more steps in this thing than anything. So the next one, for instance, is just to develop and adopt processes and encourage broad residents. We've moved appointments underneath setting up the town government. It is. Oh, you're still reading down that? I'm still doing activities under this one. Okay, so... We're lost. Under establishing town government, we had talked about moving the public engagement to a line up there. To one of the activities. All right. So under... Right now, under... Public participation with input, input meeting, public form increased attendance. Is that a whole goal? Well, no, it's all under this... At least the sheet I'm looking at. Yeah, maybe we're looking different documents. You know what? You're actually right. I'm not doing this looking at... Yeah, I'm looking at the draft you sent to us, I think. We have all the... Hopefully you're looking at an older one. That's all right. So you've done this last time nicely. You know, I mean, it may need some... Yeah, but it's in good shape. That'll be proved. You may never have seen them, but we take them. I've lost. We're now on the main goal of establishing develop and adopt processes that encourage broad resonant participation. You're editing the sentences I'm looking at. Yes? So then my next question is, what goes next? It's hard to... We like a lot of what we're looking at. So I'd like to establish an appointment. So maybe... Maybe what we've done is... So I wouldn't add ten of six. I'd like almost everything I've done for, and then we still had a lot of choices. So whatever new you put in, do a clean version for us to see next time with all the track changes removed. And to the extent George's comment, Kathy's comment, Mandy's comment, anyone else's comment has been addressed, removed the comment. You know, like taken care of, it's gone. And leave anything that still... So in other words, I'm going to try to bring to you the worksheet. That would be the worksheet you would share along with adopting the course. And what you'll end up wanting to do then is because we wordsmithed a little bit the actual just the goals. So that wording has to be the exact same wording here so people can go from one page or... But the main thing I can... The only thing I can think of doing that would not be confusing would be to accept every edit in here and then add any other ones I have. You know, in other words, or I don't understand there so I would move it. So I would send her the same clean copy she's creating for herself. I will try. But right now we have so many track changes you can see my new track changes. I will send you... And we've already just addressed how do you want me to take care of the issue? I've referred to it. I'm interested. And suggested activities. I think that'll work well and then as soon as you can... Whenever we get that particularly if I'm not participating by phone because you don't need it for a quorum I will do my changes and track edit and just send it back to you. You'll be here in spirit. I'll be here in spirit. And if we don't understand we'll call you up. Well having... Having worked in group writing where we never talked to each other and just did that I could be here in spirit. It's the only thing I could do. I did that tons of times. It's not about the meeting at all. I know but I can't talk and only one of you can see what I said so that's the whole new full of facts. I guess during the time you're all together Lynn can share it. Yes. Then we can deliberate together. It's like you can't pre-see what someone thought. It will not be our last meeting so I won't get 15 emails. You know Michelle and you can come. Bye.