 Welcome to the breakfast and plus severe Africa time for us to take you through the pages of national dailies as always We will start off looking at the top stories on the front pages of the dailies I was set up with a daily trust this morning. It's been made available by our paper Vendor and on the daily Trust newspaper 2023 moves to draft emphily Thickens that's the CBN governor. You have some quarter saying he's managed the economy properly And it's okay. He's you know fit to manage the nation. Buhari's men pushing CBN governor He won't go anywhere. That's a rider another rider says group begins nationwide Mobilization don't distract him apex bank is quoted on that This are the riders underneath the board caption and away from that you have APC convention Sale of farms begin amids zoning controversy That's what you also find and private sector alliance Raises hundred billion are to fight in security Federal government says Niger's social security system poor six ILOs intervention And just before we move away from the daily trust newspaper this morning You also have property market thrives in me do agree as resident the cry rent hike How's why found slaughtered in canoe and rep some on NMPC GMD over one point nine three billion Naira Chattered contracts asked you to decide and strike today. I just reminds me of the conversation I mean we're having we thought the strike was gonna happen a decision would have probably would have been made yesterday But that's it on the daily trust issue for this morning Let's move straight over to the punch newspaper with these headlines fuel cells for 400 naira per liter in a boujab others scarcity possessed in Lagos and the following riders marketer still struggling to return adulterated petrol to NNPC Corporations plead cooperation pleads for patients says fuel queues will end soon At the top offer front page of the pouch in newspaper the following headlines TCN gets Transformers to increase power transmission by 1487 megawatts new paying is set for strike insist ministry diverting 621 billion now at road fund new paying set for strike insist ministry diverting 621 billion Naira road fund that's a warring headline Banks Forex ban dollars Cassidy inflation firms closure imminent firms closure imminent experts warn Banks Forex ban dollars Cassidy inflation firms closure imminent experts warn and Final few stories from the punch newspaper and the LA seizes 25 kg US UK Dubai bound drugs in spare parts fabrics AKT teenagers land in prison over alleged attempts to kill sex worker Oh Luba dough, we await marking days verdict today says baloo goon Although Coco factory plans to one million dollar pilot export to boost foreign reserves. That's a good story there becoya threatens to confront aggression against Igboho and Deftal hits five in Yaba Building collapse details on page 30 of their newspaper All right away from the punch newspaper. Let's quickly look at the leadership and on the leadership Kakovid raises 100 billion Naira to combat insecurity APC PDP Sleet FCT Council chairmanship seat and that's what you find and boldly written convention APC in dilemma over governor's plot to impose chairman and The writer says governor's settled for sunny Moose air as national chairman We will resist any attempt to hijack party youths firm tells governors and Party stakeholders rides president Muhammad Buhari and urges president to single-handedly Peak party chairman. You remember the conversation. We had just last week as regards the mode of picking You know the chairmanship and then we had those going to be a fair Feud for everyone to contest No end to fuel scarcity as new peg mobilizes for nationwide strike troops, please kills cause of bandits rescue 20 kidnapped victims in Niger and You also have northern governors more than Boba that told in Lagos collapse building rises to five Delta short schools over death of 19 months pupil and this is some of the headlines on the leadership newspaper this morning Let's go over to the nation a newspaper of the leader headline there and SARS federal government renews battle with Twitter and SARS federal government renews battle with Twitter Micro-blogging agency accused of double standards in Canada's truckers protest interesting that the nation goes with that headline. I was a Big conversation online yesterday on Twitter with Nigerians reacting to a statement released by the information and culture minister lie Mohammed through the ministries page on Facebook and Twitter More headlines for the nation CBN forecloses forex rebate for raw produce Exporters CBN forecloses forex rebates for raw produce exporters Senators reps protest proposed exclusion from a PC convention Allubaro to be Balogu picks name. How's wears new look? PDP a PC share FCT Cancels equally PDP chair. Are you excited? Do some papers? We're having the narrative that the PDP Thrashed the a PC in that in the council poor anyway Let's move on a gf to cct chair downlady. Submit yourself for probe a gf to cct chair downlady Submit yourself for probe. It's been an interesting Episodial drama if you want to call it with this particular man Tinnable meets with Monex in Ogun state and It's not been going around as far as some the presidential aspirant parliament in Wisconsin and his meetings with Those he's been meeting with but let's leave that for another time senator 6 Reconciliation in Osho a PC a kitty 2022. I'm yet to join abgah says only or only rather and Dev tall in collapsed Lagos building rises to five quite unfortunate situation there Also keeps students government in suspense. Yesterday Students were having a field day on Twitter and reminding us that it was past 5 p.m And they were yet to be told whether there would be a strike or not Indian held over 134,700 bottles of codeine. Those are stories coming on the front page of a nation All right, let's have open up on katario join the conversation this morning Good morning. Go put up on katario if you can hear us. It's good to have you join us Good morning. Let's see. Good morning. All right looking sharp open up on kataria and Happy Valentine's Day I oh definitely definitely definitely Definitely all right, um Let's start with the the situation as far as The Nigerian government is concerned yesterday, and this is coming to the front page of the nation newspaper Yesterday the Minister of Information and Culture line Mohammed and took the opportunity of the Canadian truckers protest to To put a statement out some will call it making political gain or capital from that statement that are incident and protest drawing Comparison or making a comparison between what's happening in? Canada and what's happening or what happened in Nigeria during the end starts protest also looking at the Actions of Twitter regarding the protest and the actions of the online Basically companies banning some of the funding Sites a block in the funding sites that were set up to raise money for this protest your thoughts on this Comprehend the necessity for such comparison, you know, and we are fond of Getting issues especially when those issues are not of speakers to us You're talking of Nigeria. You're talking of Canada. We are talking of I mean what Nigerians are saying is that the federal government is trying to guard the What Nigerians are saying that the federal government is trying to be draconian It is drudging up in another form in this guy's decree for To and for we were it was a dictator in 1984. I don't know how Let's not go into that No Betray you anyway We are in secondary school about finishing up at that time So we are why sees of the consequences of that creep and Effective I don't know and that is why Nigeria's demonstrated when the federal government talks of guiding this prayer the Twitter it remember before the Twitter issue the issue of the Nigerians were causing compression trying to also guard the media Electronic media was also a burning issue doesn't it doesn't mean news They came up with all kinds of guidelines and so on in order to strangle it the electronic media especially channels and AI and So No, we are going to reject this issue of gargling the press now They use the issue of bringing down the tweet of Mr. President and an excuse That was just a special reason and we said the same thing happened to What is it made the format of the United States? Donald Trump Trump don't know Trump. Yes, don't know Trump and the American government did not react that So why are they now making reference to Canada? It makes no sense. There is no preview whatsoever. It makes no sense about My Mohammed on what meeting I said this before my Mohammed has exhausted his youthfulness and is only trying to Continuously ingratiate himself with this oppression. Well, he has forgotten that he will be out of what is maximum one year from now He will be out of office and whatever he does in office Will definitely hunting for the rest of his life not just him and even in his generations of born because whenever his kids come out This son is the number of the house of assembly naked So what I have to go to say I am so my mother son of grandson It will immediately are waiting reminiscence of his studied and draconian activities and acts of wiling government So I thought I'm concerned. I don't think that should even be an issue we should concern ourselves with whether the Federal government will continue to Gap the press and it is better go by the system gargling the press or the fire government sees on Terminating freedom of expression as enshrined in our constitution then engineers will react I'm not interested in whether the comparison or no comparison at now. They are talking about Canada Tomorrow at the top of Canada, they will tell you, oh, this is a suffering nature. Why do you make reference to Canada? It's a suffering nature. The same government has said United sorry the international community should not interfere in our policies the same government that is making reference to Canada It is a government that is saying United The international community should not interfere because we are suffering nation. So, I mean This is a government with me keeping with words of modifications and Interpositions. I'm not interested in whatever life. What they say the comparison is completely unnecessary So open about Kateria. What do you now make of the fact that syrup is Sewing the federal government and asking that whatever agreement that they entered with Twitter International should be made public because You know syrup feels very skeptical about Whatever agreement that should not use as a should not be used as a pretext in order not to allow the people to express Themself because this agreement has not been made public Yes, that is a valid part. That is that is one valid point. I mean, you're you're you must make the agreement because Yes, we agree. The federal government is supposed to be the intermediary And of course given them the past so to speak when I mean federal government we are talking about the judiciary We are talking of the executive. We are talking of the legislation. A lot of people think when they say federal government You're talking about the executive and because of the war behind it Never the left it should be made public. So the Nigerians are also going to scrutinize What is agreement now you reach an agreement with Peter? You must have even forced them on the duress to agree on one or two things But again, one of the things that are vast to national interest now public interest rather now, but again, I Believe that Peter has lawyers seasoned lawyers that will also take into consideration the Protection and advantage of Peter the of the young itself But then it is meant for Nigerians. So Nigerians must know What the terms of agreement are and we can also disagree with some of this kind of agreement? We can also disagree It is all about the federal government. They look and this person forgets That they'll be out of office There will be big teams of the very European law that has to put this That isn't true about it, but I completely agree with Sarah that the tanks The content of the agreement should be made public and subjected to public scrutiny Because it has to do with everything for me. Not just mr. President. How can you bring down how can you? Ban Twitter because the problem is we talk mr. President Now What's wrong with me? It's your country was capable of dividing the nation of other Because it's about a drop The Internet has got a drop in a lot of things that could be to Stimulate here in the country How can you allow that to come down to the ladder to go Alright, let's move on, let's move on to the next one that I'm sure also will talk at the strings of your heart because any parent and any you know adult in Nigeria wants their children to have a smooth educational process till they are done. On the front page of the Vanguard newspaper this headline strike anxiety as ASU takes decision today and that same paper talking about the Vanguard newspaper has put out a breaking news that ASU has taken its decision and they are to go on a one-month warning strike. So that headline from the Vanguard has an update a breaking news that after serious deliberations that dragged into the areas of Monday the National Executive Council of the Academic Staff Union of Universities ASU has voted to embark on a one-month warning strike to press home its demands from the government. The source of the meeting held in Lagos told the Vanguard newspaper in confidence they say that the strike is to allow the federal government to do the needful failure of which the UN would have no choice than to go on an indefinite strike. I don't need to say any further on your response to this. Justification of the strike or the circumstances? Right now they've taken a decision to embark on a one-month warning strike so that's the breaking news we have. Which I completely agree with because you're dealing with the government with the schizophrenic personality and education and practically on everything you know it's the government that you can never trust to perform both sides of the mouth. Whenever you go into an agreement with the government they renaissance how many times have ASU gone on strike? How many times have they met? Which accommodation with the federal government and on every occasion the federal government renaissance? This is a government that steals billions of Naira every day. Every day stealing billions of Naira. Look at the full world. The back world has been important. Now immediately they told us oh energy is important, it's important and important. Now they are telling us oh it was a high subcontractor or whatever to pass it. The federal government that you can never trust. ASU reached an agreement with this government. Whenever it is a memorandum on understanding what was used. A random of action. Why is the federal government finding it difficult to implement? Whenever ASU wants to go on strike the next thing they will call for a meeting which is a delay practice. It's a Fabian policy. That is what the federal government has said and tried, the Fabian policy. They invite you, promise you, tell you to call up the strike, you call up the strike and after that they renaissance. They come up and excuse all the others. Why is it difficult for the federal government to form the education centre? Why? All you need to do is cut down on your expenses, previous expenses. That's all you need to do. But they will not because they are kicked outside the country. They have what it takes. I know what I went through. To stay for my brother to study law. And what he has done, he has to hold on, he has to court you. He has been studying law for five years. On the outside, two, three, four years. We are just planning the morose of procedure. Who has done this? Now are you going to study law for five years which is very unnecessary. You end up spending eight years. You make the sacrifices. Because you don't even know what is going on. Do you think this might signal the probably the decline of the almost the end of public education at least at the tertiary level? It is not just the end of public education. We are talking of education as a whole. Where is the point I believe you are referring to the public schools? Exactly. That's what it means. Yeah, the tertiary level. Now of course, the primary schools don't go on strike. Secondary schools don't go on strike. We are talking of the tertiary level. No, but the truth about it is that, okay, now let us say Abua. I think that's what it's called. Abua. There's a third of some. Now, if you have five primary schools and you have 100 government schools, first, how many persons can afford the school fees? If you go to this university, it's about four million nair. How many Nigerians can afford four million nair? You start your year one there. Maybe in five years you're done. Your colleague in public school will graduate three years after you. Therefore, don't stop in law. Are you sure that when you finish from Abua, because at times two, these primary schools are sure that the public schools are sure that the primary schools also embark on simple strikes. Are you sure that when Abua, if there is no strike, and you know that example, in Abua there is no strike. One year, two years. You think the electorate in the primary school will allow that to continue? That is not to what happened. That is one. No, no, wait. That is one. Number two. Because it will be disadvantageous. But two, it could lead to students' protest and unrest in the society. If you were just looking at a microscopic view, searching a microscopic view, you are not giving it a panoramic view. It could lead. Because when I, you know how bad I felt, when my school went on strike and my colleagues, my mates in other schools did not, because that school that went on strike, the teachers, you know, in time after me, my colleagues in other schools graduated few months before me, about six months. I know how bad, and I know we wanted to still just try a protest. We were to go back on the protest before they got to the corner of the strike and adjusted. So we are just not looking at a microscopic view. Let's take a holistic approach. Is this holistic approach? Number three. Finally, the public schools, the effect is going to have on public schools. The public schools will be condemned for just those who cannot afford what it takes to go to these private schools, including the lecturers. We design and look for greener pastures. So the quality will drop. That is why we also have half a day to them. Talking about the quality dropping in the public testing institutions, some people have said even the private companies these days prefer to employ students who have gone to private universities. Is it about time the federal government, looking at the difficulties that they have faced in education? We have had these strikes ongoing for years now, from the military era, right to the democratic, democratic republic we have currently. And it has defied the parties in the time of the PDP. We had us to go on a strike, and the APC has come on board, us who is going on a strike. Is it about time the federal government tells itself what may be the truth, may be the truth, and say we can't do it? State governments take over the schools, the universities that we have in your domain. And just to add up to that, I know we have been talking about the effect of having the strike, but let's also look at some concerns that some people have raised. I mean, some people are saying that the leadership of us who over time have compromised, and that's why over time you find out that these strikes have been called of two days after the threat, and they say we'll go for strike forever. They already understand the dynamics that the government will not leave up to the expectation. I mean, this has been going on for a very long time. And the big question always would be, why do you engage when you know that the government will not agree? So what is the thing that question keeps popping up? What is the thing that the government says to us that makes them call off the strike, and then they have to come back two weeks after they're backing on that? Now, some people have mentioned categorically saying that the leadership of us who over time have compromised, and that's why these strikes and all of this continue for a long time. But I'd like to share your thoughts on that. Yes, yes. Kofi, you remind me what I'm done with, with her question. I'll take that opportunity. That also Labour, NLC, and all these other unions are compromised is not in doubt. Because, and that is why the federal government is treating the body with levity. They know that they will only back and not bite. If you're backing on the strike, and you know that the reason for which you're backing on that strike has not been achieved, why call off the strike? Meanwhile, these have been the paradigms of the government. You call off the strike, they renege. Six months after you go. Even if it takes four years, and backing on that strike for four years as painful as it is, you know, there are times you destroy a system to save that system. As painful as it is, you know that at the end of that strike, you have achieved at least 90 percent of what precipitated that strike. A situation where you are backing on this strike, they buy it at a round table and deny it, they give you brown envelopes. If they don't give you brown envelopes, you get a loss. Because that is the truth about it. There is no other justification for calling off the strike the way you have not wished, or the reason for which you're backing on that strike has not been addressed. That's it. The way you call off the strike, the number of times you are backing on that strike, including NLC. So most times I believe that these strikes are used as threats, yet not only from the authorities. A few of them, microscopic few, are the ones benefiting. Majority of them don't. Maybe the officials are the ones benefiting. And so when they are both, they are backing on the strike. When they are both, most of them, I believe, their fields are not in the school in this country. When they are both, they are backing on the strike. The issue, threat one is. If the issue is threat one, they are expecting a negotiation. If the issue doesn't come, they are backing on that strike. Otherwise, I ask you, let's see. If I say I will not come to work unless my salary is paid. You will not plead with me to say, no, come to work. By the end of this month, that salary will be paid. I come to work. At the end of that month, that salary is not paid. The next month, I say, I'm going. If you say, no, come to work again, there is nothing. By the time, if I come to work with that salary, then I am a fool, or there is more to eat than means they are. That's the truth about it. Your issues are not in address. Every day you call on strike, you are backing on strike, you call on strike because they are compromise, they are compromise, they are not at school. It has become a security both camps and of this. You have to let us out there now, though you will call on the strike. So the ministry is enjoying, you let them out, your officials, the actual officials are enjoying. That is what is happening. Otherwise, you go out, you go back on this strike, and don't point out this strike on the issues. Some people will say that this is still in the realm of speculation. I mean, they know what I mean. Like I keep saying, meaning, I believe you always must have the mask on. Meaning is not in the message, but in the message user. So in other words, everybody deserves a right to interpret the situation the way it's easy. And that is why in everything you do, you must not be ambiguous. Just like they are calling for the agreement of the content, the agreement between the president and the government. Don't create room for ambiguity because once you create room for ambiguity, all kinds of interpretation will be moving into that. As far as we are concerned, they are corrupt. If they say they are not corrupt, the only thing is on them to prove that they are not corrupt. I just use salary as an example. If every day you say you are going on, you are not going to work, because they want you to pay it. And next to the mask, they help you cause it. Next to the woman, they will say because she is having an affair with you. So if you are the man, they will say, no, you do not understand what you do, you have an understanding with the man. That is the truth about it. That is the truth. They are not allowed to eat and this is the act. But why, what is the national, I am backing on this track and calling out that track without actually giving the case. I mean this particular issue, I know the illustration, you know, you are trying to put out the comparison, but I mean, that is not the case because there are a lot of organizations where a lot of people work and they are not being paid and they constantly go to salary, I mean go to the office and it is not that anything happens, but it could just be that. No, no, no, listen, listen to me, listen, listen, you are getting it wrong. Let us in perspective. Now you are not paid, you are going to work. Maybe you are doing that because you are sympathizing with the organization. Maybe you are doing that because you made a financial situation. Maybe you are doing that because you are not depending on that. Maybe you are doing that because you are looking for another job. But what I am saying is, maybe you say, I will not go to work. They might invite you. It is a different scenario. Please, with you, promises at the end of the month, end of the month you come. They say, oh, sorry, next month. Next month, they say, oh, sorry. Unless you are also paid less, unless you do not have any future, you do not get out of that place. But if you continue to go, simply because you do not have any other authority, that is the truth. If you have an authority, fine. But then, because why you are doing that is because you are mounting pressure on the system or the musicians to pay you, especially when you know, for example, that your agency broke trust with your family, maybe your son is not paid. Don't like that. Open up one guitar. But if your agency is bankrupt or something, you might sympathize with it. All right. All right. Open up one. Let's move on. Let's move on to other stories. If you know that your strike will not achieve the end, then don't go. Don't then back on it. Interesting. It's the same as that. Don't then back on it. Because you are also concentrating the students. So don't then back on it. So if you know that you are going to call up the strike without achieving your end, don't then back on that strike. Because you are also concentrating the students. All right. So I apologize upon our vote for the interruption there because of the network lag. You had landed on your point. But permit us to please move on to another one because of time. The big issue, you know, when the punch captures this as its lead story on the front page of the paper this morning, the fuel queues are still with us. And the punch is telling us that the petrol is selling for 400 naira per liter in some filling stations in Abuja, the nation's capital, and other parts of Lagos as well. 400 naira per liter is not what Nigerians were expecting to pay in 2022. They are also saying marketers are still struggling to return the adulterated PMS to the NNPC. I don't know whether we can call it PMS because it doesn't look premium anymore. The NNPC they are saying is pleading for patience and saying that fuel queues will end soon. What are your thoughts on this that we are still at this point this week? This is seven days after the first queues popped up in Lagos and several days after they popped up in Abuja? Quite for that of me. And then I lied to the possibility it's an issue. So the papers will carry them and make it on the headline. But the truth is you will only be an investor to think that the federal government is not involved. The federal government is just trying to associate itself because of the Ferrari it generated. You know? Otherwise who involves? Who gives the license to those that are involved? Who is now paid? Who is now indemnified? The same federal government. From this issue of we are going to pay back reward and so on. They are going to also make money. The federal government has failed to address the petroleum industry sector for obvious reasons. Corruption. That is where they make their millions, their billions of dollars. And so there are all kinds of shamanigans. I listened to the minister for they were going to atone financial for the energy, for the damage. How are you going to do that? That's my car. How are you going to reach up La Venco Daria to pay for it? How are you going to reach up La Venco Daria to pay for it? How are you going to reach mercy to pay for it? They will also select those and tell you they are paid. They will put money. They think fast how to steal, how to defuse, how to deport. They will tell you oh we are paid also shaman. Kofi are not going to be part of it. They are not going to be beneficial. These people initially they said they were the ones in process. They exported, they sent out and they paid. They refined, they brought and they have. Until we had this issue we never knew that they actually got orders to do this job for them. Because when we had this issue this problem that we had that oh no it wasn't and then it was MRS, it was this, it was that. So much secrecy. We also hearing from the front page of the punch in this report we're hearing we've seen that Nupeng, the national oil and natural gas workers is set for a strike in this period. They're saying that this road fund that was brought up that's meant to go to those in the petrol supply sector and the oil and gas industry. This road fund, 621 billion out of it has been diverted by the Ministry of Petroleum Resources. They said they haven't seen the money. Here we go again. This isn't another situation. But this has just got started what I said now. It just got started what I said. Nupeng is also going to go on strike because Nupeng was not part of the deal, the loot. I beg you, Nupeng of the Kokoree is not Nupeng of today. Nupeng will go on strike and they'll be invited to a round table and they'll come up with one reason why they have to call on the strike or suspend the strike. Mark my words. They are part of the strike today because I'm not going to be taking a round the invite. Probably the Ministry for God's about Nupeng, getting involved in the loot, the fruits of the crime. Nupeng never tested. When they give them part of it, they'll call on the strike or suspend the strike. They'll tell you they have missed the meeting accommodation with the federal government and so they have decided to suspend the strike. You look, if Nupeng is serious and has the interests of Nigeria's attack, let's get them back on that side. Because the federal government will never account for that. We have to let you go. We have to let you go at this point in time. Thank you so much. We're really out of time. We have to let you go. I wish you happy Valentine's Day. She hasn't. I have to watch my back. Thank you very much. It's always a delight, you know, listening to him share his thoughts on some national issue and that's the sides of it. On off the press, we will step on the brakes now. Let's tell you what happened today in history. Well, of course, we'll be back after this break and we have interesting conversations coming up. The Yapa building collapse is one that has, you know, thrown a lot of people into mourning and it's here we go against the situation. Really sad, especially the fact that you hear five people have died in the history of Damola, the IT student who's body was brought out of the rubble. Really, really sad. We didn't expect to have something like that. We'll talk about this when we come back on the breakfast. Stay with us.