 A bulk can be used as an effective way to break through a plateau in a cut. And a cut can be used as an effective way to break through a plateau in a bulk. In other words, somebody who was eating low calories and they're not losing body fat two weeks in a row. The reason why he would reverse them is because now let's go into a metabolism boosting two or three week period, or maybe even just a one week period to get that metabolism kicked up so we could start the fat loss process over. Same thing with being in a bulk for a long time. You know, the whole feeling of I can't eat anymore. Oh my gosh, I'm so stuffed. One of the remedies to that oftentimes is to go in a small deficit. Yeah, small deficit for a week. And then your appetite comes right back and he probably lost no muscle. In fact, oftentimes that you really well. And then you go back in the bulk and then everything responds again.