 You wanna keep his name alive, but it's a thin line between keeping his name alive and then just doing stuff to try to create buzz just because you can get some views behind it. I can't let people attach themselves to his legacy that had no proximity to the man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And there's still people that did, even though they did have proximity to the man, it wasn't because he liked you and he chose you. It was because you had something to offer him in the moment and he moved on that, but a lot of people have taken their relationship with him and exaggerated it. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. One thing, cause everything I know about y'all is through him, as I said. And the one thing I miss about him is the fact that, you know, the way he was so outspoken about the South, the way how unapologetically, you know what I mean? And with a lot of things that are going on and the way how some people forget about the South, whether through awards, through just different things, music, whatever, that I'm like, I'm wondering like, really if he was here, what would he have been saying? What would, you know, how much of a difference it would make? Pimp was all about accountability, right? If you're right, you're right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. But even deeper than that, right? Pimp's thing was everybody tripped out in life. At some point, everybody tripped out and somebody gotta come and check you because you tripping, especially if they love you. He say, the problem is we say we love each other in the South and it's so much Southern solidarity, but we don't feel that we got the right to check each other. But you gonna get mad. The motherfucker, if a nigga from the East Coast you don't know, or a nigga from the West Coast that you don't know from Adam tell you you tripping, but you gonna get mad at your partner, them, or niggas you already know. In order for us to win, we gotta be willing to check each other. That's real. When we tripping. So that's what knocking those down was about. All right, be the robber, David, see the king with a sigh. Anything it said, need to shut your fucking mind. It's like, it's a bunch of niggas tripping and if somebody don't check them and tell them they tripping, they probably don't even realize they tripping. Y'all need to get up off the dumb shit. I got a bread truck, get up off the dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? They probably think they got a valid reason for saying what they saying and doing what they doing. But Pimp was always like, man, if everybody rich, bro, if we all really getting money, what's the beef about? He said, I'm from the streets. With no beef really worth killing somebody over then you're touching your family or fucking with your money. So most of you niggas are just really in your feelings. That's real. We ain't gonna never get to where we trying to get in our feelings. Wow. New York artists, I know for a fact, many of them do not get along. They don't like each other. But for the sake of New York, they willing to come together and show unity. You know what I'm saying? It's so real. And we gotta do it. The West Coast. Well, I know gang lines are drawn in the city. They really can't buy the cold fuck with each other. But they'll come together if need be for them and throw up the dub together. We in the South actually like each other. For real? All of us are really, really good fucking friends. But we don't come together and use our power together enough. What will it take? I don't know, man. It's, somebody gotta check us. I'm out to go outside checkin' niggas, man. Because I don't know if they gonna respect it from anybody. And some of them might not. They don't respect it from you. Everybody didn't take it well when Pimp's here. Pimp's the door is old. But you gotta look at, if you wanna, you know, is it really worth getting into it? Or should I actually listen? Is the nigga, do the nigga got a point? That was a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow. Admitting that they was wrong and somebody else had to tell them they was trippin'. You know, cause you know you trippin'. But, you know, sometimes you can be too close to the situation. Sometimes it takes somebody a little bit removed away from it that you respect. You know what I'm sayin'? And that's the key word is very few niggas that everybody gonna respect the same way. That's so real. Probably by three or four. That's real. And they gotta give a fuck. But everybody respect you. For sure. And I do give a fuck, so. Man, thank y'all for having me. Man, thank you. Man, like I said. I think it's dope that, you know, over the last couple of years I've been going to work with my wife. Like, and we've like working together. She's always been on the job site in the studio at the concerts and all of that. But we do the radio show now. I know. We actually go to work together. And that was rough because I kept trying, like I said, I kept wanting to do it very polished. Right? Let's write down what we talkin' about. The songs we gonna play and we gonna go through it like that. And then truck would say something crazy. Off brand in a moment. And my wife would react to it. And then the conversation would be about that. And not about the stuff that I had pre-organized that we would talk about. That's frustrating. The more I kept trying to organize it, the worse it got. So now we just going to start talking. Yeah. That's me. That's what. I'm not organized and he's just like. I'm like, yo, I'm like queenie. I'm like, let's do this. So I just stopped fighting it, you know what I'm saying? I stopped fighting. But I'm very logic minded. I'm really trying to map this out and blueprint it and try to figure out these and superstructure how this thing needs to be. But a lot of times, if it ain't got no real life and energy in it, it ain't gonna work. No way. That's it. That's it. So for us, we work loose. Cause we control the show. We can do whatever we want. So you say you watch our show. How we doin'? Y'all doin' great. Y'all doin' great. I think y'all are finding ways to perpetuate off energy. Like if you get a host, a guest in and they have connections with other artists that lends itself to continuing those stories and branching it out. So you can talk to one artist and that artist can lead to three different interviews. That's right. You know what I'm saying? That's right. But y'all gotta be open to, you know what? Should we go tell that? Should we figure out that story? And then you take a chance and then they come in and you find out one of those three know two people. One and oh three, right? So it just branching out by being open, right? Like I had to learn to be open to let the stories be told, let people speak their minds, let them get all their thoughts off, they chest. It's gonna help somebody. Yeah, but even further it's gonna help y'all cause it will leave you to other ways. You know what I'm saying? Me saying this about Steve B. Lowes. Y'all headin', that's the thing. Y'all bein' receptive. That shows you bein' receptive to the culture and you not stuck on yourself, right? Cause if you stuck on yourself, you wouldn't be watching the other podcast. You fully concentrated on boss talk which y'all wanna learn, y'all wanna grow and y'all wanna make sure y'all don't miss y'all mark. I think behind him is a great example of how to speak to your local culture. How to embrace it and tell stories that actually can resonate outside of where you at because their journey is so compelling. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So by y'all talkin' to Steve B. Lowes, that actually helps B. Lowes. Because it allows him to really actually talk about a lot of shit he been sittin' on for a long time. You know, he gets to learn that he's actually been appreciated the whole time cause I believe he felt his input was thankless for so long. And then, and there was, I mean, I'll be very honest, like Chad and Steve B. Lowes were actually creating a new level of Southern production. Like, Swishes and Doja is where they were goin'. Your pieces in check Yeah. Like they were goin' there with that shit. And I mean, when Pym brought him in, Pym was like, hey, this nigga the truth. Like this the next nigga right here. Like I'm telling he cold. And I got to workin' with him a lot personally. You know what I'm sayin'? We made a lot of incredible music. And I feel like we really only touched the tip of the iceberg with what he can do. I believe if the experience had been better, he would've given more of himself over to it and he would've really reached a level of production. He's still cold, he's sendin' me shit. He's still cold. I'm tryin' to turn him on around. He sent me some of that, that he had sent me years ago that I never did. That was like perfect for the rodeo. We just couldn't get it done in time. Man. You know what I'm sayin'? But I shuddered to think that where Steve B. Lowes would've been cause Pym was putting him in a position to have a better experience in the industry, have better ways of navigating the space, better ways of executing and making sure you was gettin' your bread properly. And once Pym was gone, he felt like, that's it. That's like, I don't think this is for me anymore. That's the only person I really felt was gonna actually help me, further me and protect me. I'm just, I'm done here. We didn't realize how many people was really depressed behind Pym passing, you know what I mean? Because everybody didn't get closer. Yeah, because you and Bubo came on. He talked about his depression. And did in seven years. He talked about his depression, Steve B. Lowes, all of that, and in my mind, you know what I mean? It just, it just, I don't know. I was broken, I was broken as a man. Like I had to be fully rebuilt. And I thanked my wife for making sure I got in a good church in my past of helping me build my spirit and my soul back up. Cause I was a broken man. I was like, that's it. And the crazy thing was I was prepared to move past it because not emotionally, but professionally, because we had already represented for him in his absence when he was locked up. So I'm like, the same template is gonna work, but it's gonna be a different expectation because the free PIMC movement was executed to the sense that, well, we just gotta say it till he come home, right? So there was always the expectation of, at some point he's gonna come home and we get to get back together and do this. There was a serious level of finality, the most fine, the highest level of fine. He's gone, you know what I'm saying? And that hurt more than anything. Man, that killed it, man, like I said before. But to see you say, it's still UGK for life gave me hope. You did that in the midst of your hurt. A wise woman once told me, somebody gotta live to tell the story. You did that. And I'm blessed that I'm still here to tell the story and make sure that people know the truth, truth about what we do. Because once I'm gone, everybody gonna pop up and start telling you the interpretation of what it is. So while you can get it from the horses mouth, I'm just why I'm here, places like this because everybody has a different perspective and everybody has a different reason for why they wanna talk to me about this stuff. Man, listen, I tip-toed in dealing with UGK subjects because I respect it so much. I told you that when we were in Utah. I appreciate that. But even still, to this day, when I hear you talk about people using the merch, I remember not selling t-shirts that certain people had when they first passed. That's how I meant easy, to be honest with you. Because I was like, where'd them come from? He would say, like if it ain't going to them, I'm not doing it. I've been doing this, and that was years ago. But just that part right there, man, is so touchy because we wanna keep his hope alive. We wanna keep his name alive. But it's a thin line between keeping his name alive and then just doing stuff to try to create buzz just because you can get some views behind it. I can't let people attach themselves to his legacy that had no proximity to the man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And there's still people that did, even though they did have proximity to the man, it wasn't because he liked you and he chose you. It was because you had something to offer him in a moment and he moved on that, but a lot of people have taken their relationship with him and exaggerated it. Yeah. A lot of people have tried to connect themselves to his legacy that were not connected to him in the way they're trying to let the world see it. So while I'm here, it's important that I tell the truth as much as possible. You know what I'm saying? Because it's harder for the truth to live. It's harder for a lie to die than the truth to live. You know what I'm saying? And so, and then one day I'm gonna be gone. And I'm telling you, I can tell you right now, it's gonna be niggas coming out of the woodworks y'all ain't never seen in your life. But there's a lot of people that stole shit, music, clothing, equipment, stole a lot of shit. But they know they can't pull a lot of that shit out and release a lot of that shit. Cause I'll be on the ass.