 Welcome to the Community Television Board of Directors regular meeting for March 26, 2018 Will the secretary please call the roll? Chair Gudger here director Fisher director Hall Director Rand here director wave here director Mannheim here director Laurent here Director Macy ours here director O'Driscoll here director Ellen here Thank you. This is the point where all communications any person may address the board about items not on the agenda Seeing none will move to number three consideration of late additions or deletions to the consent and regular agendas Are there any? Seeing none will move on to the consent agenda On the consent agenda. We have the minutes from the last meeting with the finance committee meetings of March 19th The finance committee minutes and the recommendation of the finance committee to accept the February financial reports On those last two items Tom, would you have anything to say? Just so we continue to be in good financial shape that Revenues are tracking there. They're above our breakeven point. Is that right? So I guess yeah And looking better this month. I hear so Any questions about any of those three items? Seeing none there's no motion approval Second all second Okay, all those in favor say aye. Hi opposed Abstentions seeing none will move on to the regular agenda the first item being the oral report a big second director Okay This is a positive report We are Yes No, no, I was gonna ask just procedurally I mean since I missed the last meeting it's okay that I vote I don't need to abstain on the and I watched the meeting today on on the online So I don't need to abstain from voting on the minutes of the last meeting Okay I read the minutes and I watched the meeting. What was that? I was at the finance committee Okay, thank you. Thanks for filling So Yes, we are in profit for this month is very excited and we Alana has had a great month in the co-working center last last month We had some we had two big offices of people moved out So that left us kind of you know in a little bit of a low ebb but she has filled one of those offices up and We have one big one and one small one, but we're using the small one for the bucket of hours people the people who just they have memberships here and they they pay for Five or six hours a month and they use those so we have to have something open for them to come in So we ever we don't ever really want to have all the small offices rented and so that's been problem Yeah, and so that's how that one's being used and we have five or six those people So that adds up to about 25 hours a month. So it's pretty used that that office even though it's not rented So that's a really good thing. I'm very happy Happy to be able to report that and it's great that we bounce back so quickly Sometimes we've lost a bunch of offices and it's taken us a real long time to build back up So but we're we're over our break even point this month even so so that was that's a good good resilience I'm just curious. Are you know, are we getting walk-in inquiries in any pace that would indicate things are picking up and people are Yes, yes, she says more people are coming in and sometimes like if we can't today We had three or four people working all the time in the co-working center. So that that is good Yeah, I know I can get some trend numbers from her And I'll do that for us next month so we can see right how many people are strolling in it would be Interesting to know how many people are here every day We go live people on the weekends and then of course there are people here at night that we never see but so We know we in finance committee. We've stopped tracking what we call satellite memberships, right? But I get an email every time there's a new one and it actually seems to me to have picked up in the last Yeah, we're getting a few a week and we've gotten a lot of Sometimes I get confused. I get C map stuff in my head I think we're doing more mailboxes and we did an annual Membership today. So there's there's like they come pretty frequently So it's that that area the cafe space is sort of kind of like our gym You know, we can sell a lot of those memberships because most people don't come all at the same time So it's a it's a good thing and it seems to be picking up. So we certainly do better, but I think It's not a hockey stick But we're moving them So captioning it's so exciting. We're so close. We can almost taste it Victor and his team found out what they believe to be at the last technical Rural in the project was is a piece of equipment that we use to telecast It's how we get our channels to come cast and it's called the elemental and the elemental is five years old and hasn't been its Software hasn't been updated in five years. So we Are updating it now and it was a big jump as you know If you put try to put software in your computer and you skip the last several updates You can't just update. So we had to wipe the thing Update to last year and then add the new update once we have all those updates on and Victor sent me a message today. He thinks he's got everything done and he's going to come in tomorrow morning and finish We should be able to get our captions to Comcast That is the last hurdle in the in our chain of equipment to get it out So what might happen tomorrow is once we get the elemental up to speed is it may We may find out that now that it's changed its parameters We might have to go back into some of our other equipment and change some things back there so hopefully We we paid for a support contract with the company that runs the elemental on the On the recommendation of Nick Brandt. He said they would be very helpful in the captioning going So and they are they have been helping Victor for a couple of days working on this And so we feel like we might get this done this week and I'm like the girl who cries wolf always It's warning warning. I'm very optimistic all the time So I think that we are going to do it and I'll let you know what you'll be able to see So would that mean that we periodically have to Not be Broadcasting we we had we were off three hours today, but that's it. We're good. That's it Yeah, that's all we had to do and it was just three hours and you know, we were back in business pretty quickly Sorry, I'm glad people were watching we didn't have a crawl on for a couple of days We did warn you we did and then we had a thing. I don't know if Comcast put up their message They were going to put a message on the screen Well, all right, well, we moved beyond there now we're back on the air, which is good and We're supposed to be having captain's posture and when that happens you'll all get an excited email from me We but one big advancement is we have moved our on-demand service to YouTube So now if you want to watch a government meeting on demand you go to our YouTube channel and there there's a channel for every Government meeting so there's one for the board of suits one for Capitola one for for the city of Santa Cruz and Anybody that we do do recordings for? We are some of those up until the end of January They're all captioned with perfected captions not just look we get raw captions right away and they're you know full of mistakes Then we go through and perfect them and so all the January ones are perfect and we're working on February now So once we catch up we'll be on it and it'll be about a six-day delay just because the meetings are so long It's kind of an hour. It's a day an hour So if it's a six-hour meeting it takes a six days to do the captioning because there's a well The captioning goes through three phases, you know It's the raw captions and someone goes through fixes it then somebody Goes through and checks that and then it goes and then it comes here and and we put it on We put it actually on to the video. So and then when we do that we we check it again and we kind of Move it so it sticks. So the FCC has some pretty serious You know very exacting standards. They want you to meet and the the captioning has to be on the money They can't be talking it can't be three or four seconds behind it has to be right on it The names have to be there even sounds that happen like clapping or yelling or door slamming Those all have to be in there. And so it takes a while To get all that done and it takes a lot of eyes to look at it and make sure it's all there So by the time it gets on it's had three or four passes and so we're pretty sure it's perfect So we have the perfected captions are going on Only the board of supervisors we have to once we get that fired and we've got the and the captioning is working then we'll expand to others and So let's see To see any of the meetings before January 2018 you would still go to our regular website. They're all are cut there We're not gonna go backwards. We're only gonna go forward. Are we gonna put something on our website that makes clear We actually need to do something like that So I guess I need to talk to you about getting some some a little paragraph on the website that says for Anything after January go to YouTube. We can have a link there And is it possible to put something on our YouTube channel that would then refer people back for older meetings? So that you would think I'm not sure where Let me look at under a bowder or something where I can put it We could put a little link we have to put in every description not looking for this meeting No, it's just on the channel. Okay. We can put it on the thingy. What do they call that the cover or the header? Yeah, better. Yeah, it would be good to have that just so that people know Yeah, yeah, okay, and then something like that and then how about our board of directors meetings Are we planning on doing something similar for for these meetings? Captioning them? I don't think so. No, not Kevin. He's talking about putting on the YouTube YouTube. Yeah, that's what I would but both I would I was asking about yeah. Oh, yeah, they'll be on the YouTube channel. Mm-hmm I hate to ask this. Why wouldn't we caption our meetings? Because it would cost us a lot of money It's pricey, okay, it'll have raw captions. They just won't be perfected Does that meet whatever FCC requirements there? It doesn't meet them, but we don't have to meet them. We're exempt They'll be captioning. It just won't be you know, there could be mistakes, right? There could be words that aren't correct So speak very clearly and enunciate So the raw captions will be very precise Make the knees twice as long So if you want to visit our YouTube channel it is CTV Santa Cruz County, and that's where you find our meetings Let's see. I think I told you all of this Okay We are doing coverage for 15 meetings in March just a little bit down We often get closer to 18 to 20, but this month only 15 Our we did us the documentation service covered a special meeting in the Santa Cruz mid-county groundwater agency Which is a new one for us, but we don't think it's going to be recurring. They had a special presentation They needed to make and we covered that and Victor this year in that area We done or last year I guess he did $6,000 in there doing those little meetings So we think if we promote it more we could do better and now we've got the right equipment And they've kind of got the system and and now we could do it on a we could do more we were kind of Slow walking in a bit to make sure we got our system down. We don't want any big mistakes in the field We had a couple so I think we've got that all Contained and we should we could promote this more if we wanted to now. I think we're in a position to do it Do it well We had the studio floor refinished So wait did it pool or did it run That means they got a level Pretty much it's smooth and it works. They apparently there was a metal beam in the floor then that was causing that thing And that was they had to grind that out and they did a good job The floor looks very nice. We need to we're gonna have to have the janitor come in and mop it It's a little dirty and once we get it clean. We think we can maintain it So that's a really good thing that took a long time to do and it and it took a lot of people Worked on this we had a lot of help from Matilda and Keith and who kept looking for people We we finally it took us a long time to find anybody who'd even talked to us and then a bunch of them Dropped the ball and then we finally got this last one finally work and they did an excellent job So we're really happy with this and thanks to Matilda and Keith for persevering and they kept hunting and asking everyone They knew it was a real networking job And we've also you might not have noticed if you came through the front we removed the cubicles and the chandelier We recessed all the outlets in the floor They used to stick up out of the floor and now they're down flat We have nice brass covers and they're safe and you can plug in in a lot of places now You can sit in chairs and desks all over the room and plug right into the floor which is safer and cooler and I'm working. I'm still negotiating our mural for the wall, but I'm just about there so hopefully next month you'll see that and We're still working on the kitchen trying to figure out a way to accommodate what everybody wants and We have found some Small tables that we might put on the front Will be we'll bolt them down But in the springtime people want to go outside and be in the Sun for a little while and it's a good option for us to Have we do have the back patio, but we can have something in the front, too. That'll be good So we're gonna do that I'm gonna move on now to communications and advertising because I Had written to you in this report that we got kind of a broad stroke a broad strokes proposal from a Google partner agency in town and To use our Google advertising grants. So Google as I think I told you last time Google grants nonprofits about a $10,000 ad budget a month for search advertising and They feel like we are a good candidate to really make the most of that so they made us an incredible offer Really affordable basically I don't think they're gonna make any money on this But they want to support a nonprofit that they they really liked our operation and what we did and our mission And they want to help so I met with them today and We're gonna go ahead with this project And I think we'll get a lot of I think it's really gonna help I've been I always Larry always asked me when you're gonna spend that advertising and I Just we didn't feel comfortable with anything and I didn't want to waste it so I Feel comfortable with these guys and I think they're gonna do a good job for us And so we'll be making some small changes in our websites And they have a lot of they have some they'll do some of that for us Which is really good but the great thing is just to get their eye on it and and to get their thoughts and they seem very serious and I've met a lot of them number of them at a meeting that I went to here in town and and I spoke with the leader there today, and so I'm gonna move forward with that and Also, we were once again the runner-up and best co-working in the town and the and the good times best of so That's always who is number one. Oh, it's always next phase The cruise I owe is after us. Yes Just saying So We'll um the next year we want to be number one, so we're gonna keep working hard We'll have a couple of ads in the paper to say thank you to our Members and I think that's great. We've gotten some nice reviews on the website about our yelp about our Co-working center and a lot of them have to do with bagels You know if we can get investment Yeah, if we could get a new category for best co-working digital media And now on that Topic I was able to I met this month with local Production well They're they're a branding company and they do production and they came in and they saw what we have and they were very excited about not only Running some stuff from us possibly leasing some stuff from us and also they had some They had some really good Suggestions for things that would be rentable all the time So I'm working with them now to come up with a photography package Because we have the DSLR cameras, but we don't have any of the things that go with them And sometimes people buy the camera, but they don't have the extras So we're looking at a package of strobe lights and things like that that would make that in lenses And They they also had some suggestions of people that could help me put that package together So I will follow up on that and that should be a good thing for us and And we got an offer a couple of interesting offers this month on big pieces of equipment that are Useful for rental, but not good to have in your house if you have a production company where your store stopped at home crane and And a dolly so those are really good things that we could probably rent regionally But we most people don't want to have those and because you don't use them all the time But but they do they make it great. They are really cool, especially dolly beautiful shot So anyway, we'll move on to equipment grants because we have some some action in there Aptos high school has documentaries ready to go and upload to cdb. They contacted me just about how long they could be and What's very exciting so we're going to get stuff from them right away Watsonville has been practicing and We got we finally were able to find the headsets that they need for the announcers for the sports announcers So they're going to pick those up on Wednesday, and I expect stuff from them pretty soon we should get some sports on and Digital mess is preparing for the committee our grant committee a report So we can see what what they've been doing and we should have that before our board meeting next Months so that the committee can report on what digital last has been doing The we updated the grant committee worked really hard to update the grant Documents now that we had a year in we know where they aren't Doing the job that they need to be doing we we've ticked all that stuff and updated them We've made it kind of streamlined real clear and we posted the new one So if you're out there and you're a youth organization, and you need some video equipment Please go look at those grant documents I'm talking to you harbor and so Cal high school What about Santa Cruz high school Santa Cruz high school too. Yeah, that's a good point. We haven't heard from them So yeah, yeah, that'd be good to Santa Cruz. Okay going Let's see. I think that's all high schools throughout I think we Valley, yeah, what about the homeschoolers at AFE? Yeah, they're over in the Brats 40 The small schools campus there. I don't know the small schools campus. That sounds fun So the AFE is alternative family education. So it's So any any youth organization any organization that has curriculum and has a teacher And knows how to use video equipment is welcome to that's the cat to apply. Well, it's not a cat So are these are these the three that currently have right now we have apps is apt us Watsonville and Yes, and digital nest those are our three so we want to get everybody So we want to and we would love to put the equipment in the hands of every organization that serves youth in every school We're excited to do it That's um, that's it for this month Questions So we're not gonna let back off the hook Next item Need some background Yeah, we're gonna we're doing an amendment to the lease The reason is went in our first lease It was not clear how improvements to the building would would Come about and then would be paid for and they and traditionally, I guess is customary for the Lessor like we are there with the leasee at a long-term lease to pay for some of the things that go on in the building so that wasn't detailed in our lease and so The landlord made a purchase for the building that does benefit us But we really didn't have an agreement on how that purchase would come about how we would take part in it if we would pay for any of it and so First It is a purchase that benefits us and we would have had to probably do something like it anyway so we should go ahead and and pay for our portion of this purchase and Now we put together in the ad there's an amendment to the lease that details how we'll do it How it will happen and so that we get a chance to have input and that we get an opportunity to say yay or nay and That we know in advance and can't be just sprung on us. We've done this now you have to pay so And everybody's okay with this and but what we're gonna what we're Keith is gonna ask you to look at tonight Is it's not we don't actually lease this building from the owner we lease it from? Satellite they have the lease with the owner So what you'll be looking at is the amendment that Barbara has is creating to go to the building owner And then we will have a mirror Amendment that does exactly the same thing in in our in our lease to Barbara So to make that Barbara really can't sign a thing like that without knowing whether we will so we're looking at it now In in anticipation that that will happen and and then we'll be signing our own amendment So that's the reason for it and that's the that's what we're going to do with it The first thing that's going to happen due to that amendment is a payment for the security system in the building Are there other tenants in the building? No, well, no the owner well sort of the owner of the building has a business in the back and but but that It's one of those things where the building I think is incorporated in the business is separate and the business is You know running from it's but they get to pay for a pro rata share Yeah, we have 70 point three percent of the building and they they have the rest And so when when we do things like this we pays like we pay seventy percent of the Electros to be electricity and things like that and and you know We have a triple net lease and so part of that comes to us and so this is one of those things that We should pay part of I had well one question one comment and item two there's a fro in there. There's a what a fro Be a for or a from you know fro PG&E Monthly bill fro from from PG&E. Okay. That's my one little spelling mistake. Yeah, well It's a we do There's only one meter here, right? So we just share the electricity kind of Trust that they're not running hairdryers all day back there. Well, they They do get us back up. They provide us with the actual bill. So yeah, yeah, wait. Yeah, they're not doing anything We're not mining bitcoins I have a little nap in the car And then a question about the parking I wasn't totally clear This was part of our deal. We did a lot of negotiation with them to get this and one of the things that we had In our original lease it said that the parking would be unassigned and then Armada assigned some of it to itself And we didn't feel like the Apportionment was fair and so we asked them in this deal to give us the parking and they did So they're all unreserved now. Yes, they should all be even if they say Armada there Yeah, are they going to remove Armada from I mean, will people know they can use those we could ask them to do that I mean, otherwise, even though they're not reserved technically, right? Nobody would use them if they thought they thought they were reserved exactly the reserved for us because we know about it I also found one Extraneous word in here. So if if this ever gets cleaned up in addition to the fro before PG&E, right? on number four Where it says it will be deemed that tenants tenant does not agree to then it says the Pay for it pay its pro-rata share that does should just come out. Oh, yeah. Okay. Good. Thank you I'll let Barbara know. Yeah, we're back to the parking. So, yeah, sorry There's no problem. So There isn't any apportionment. It's it's supposed to be unreserved unreserved for everybody. Okay, from reading it It seemed to me like there was still gonna be an apportionment, but nothing would be actually marked Well, which of course would make it unenforceable, but right? Well, the the spirit of the thing is That if we start again hundreds of clients They can't park that wouldn't be fair, right? So we want to make sure that they Have enough parking, but they do so it isn't a problem, but it but We get those those spaces go unused because they're marked and our people are parking somewhere else and they could be parking here It is it's kind of weird that they even after they say they'll be unreserved They go into the whole thing about this pro-rata share. So it wasn't just here. No, no, no It's it's they there's an extension about that. You're like well, they're all unreserved What does it matter what the pro-rata? I mean, I think what they're saying is that you know I mean to me it looks like 22 are really still designated Right, but not not any specific 22 right no and before what they had done was they had subtracted out Well, what they did was they subtracted out It seemed to us that they had taken out the handicapped spots Figured out what was left and they gave a 70% of and they took the 30% of that and our 70% included all the handicapped spots So that made it a little unfair for us. We thought and so we approached them with this new plan Yeah, they never bothered anybody that well, they did a couple times, but they stopped right away Bothered any so they don't hassle people that park in the spots that are marked our mod and happens and you know No one's patrolling the parking lot or anything We just wanted we just wanted it more formal That's good. So okay So I want to make sure we're all clear what you have in front of you is the agreement that satellite will sign with the owners of the building and It will be incorporated in our document So if we vote to approve this we're proving that this language corrected and go in our sublease from satellite Yeah, yeah So I just want to make sure so at the beginning of the lease they asked that the operating share was 24 77 but that didn't include the Utilities and now it's going up to 46 59 which does include the utilities. I'm trying to so landlord I think it's number so originally I said at commencement landlord estimate and its share of operating expenses at 2477 dollars and 67. Oh, yeah, that was not right. Okay, and then number six now says 4600 yeah, because that turned out to be just totally wrong. Okay, they they they only had They had like ten people working here in this giant building And and it didn't cost as much to run it as it does now with all of our staff and all of our co-working people So we base that I think it was 35 cents a square foot when we first started and it turned out to really be like 69 So that's why it is a big jump, but it's not it's authentic. This is what really this is what really that's really actual Yeah, we've seen the bills We were just guessing beginning as you know Okay, so for item eight We could have a motion that Is acceptable for We'll be be directing you Becca to accept these changes into our sub lease when they happen. Yeah Are you and I? However you want to do it? I'm looking for a motion if we have no more. I'll make the motion Is to accept the language as amended with those two corrections To the lease the sub lease with satellite I'll suck it All right, we have a motion and a second all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed our abstentions See none Now we had a little item As part of getting this lease change. We're agreeing to pay for the security system And Becca you want to I can talk about that it's more than a system It's actually a bunch of cameras and actual work by the aid the ADT company They actually watch they have cameras. They watch them and if monocle something going on They send a patrol so someone actually comes out to our building. So that's why it's kind of expensive It's partly the partly the gear, but it's also the people and so that's a it's kind of pricey, but It's actually a good thing because we do I mean Alana and Angelisa both have picked up hypodermic needles on our front porch and you know cans of you know Liquor and bottles and it's so after dark. It's a little different here than it is during the day So that patrol thing is pretty good We are not happy with the fact that we have had actually two break-ins and they haven't seen those So I once we are part of the paying of this I'll go meet with them and we'll see if we can refine the coverage of the cameras a little bit and maybe I think they work I'm not sure there are two ways cameras can work Some of them are just kind of always on and others will happen when there's motion So we need to make sure yeah, they record when something moves So we want to make sure that they're pointed at the right places We had we had a break-in and we had a bicycle stolen right off our front porch And like no cameras got either of these things So Victor worked with the cameras on the front because those are actually adjustable and they were within a reach So we fixed those but the back cameras need to be adjusted So once we're part of the paying for this thing, we'll make sure it works a little better And so this cost it includes installation installation for the full 48 months or is this just a So This is for the installation Part I think it is part of the installation and the cameras and the maintenance and the people watching and the patrol evening Okay, and wouldn't there be a monthly fee and it's a monthly fee I just put the 48 months in there because that thing we just said we were going to approve So it's any expenditure of this mouth is payable over 48 months So I want to make sure that we were clear if we agreed that we're not agreeing to spend that money today We're going to spend it over a That the lease changed timeline But it's not clear what the term of the coverage is What a contract with ad t is that is that the vendor? Yeah, I'm not sure actually either how long What did did we say what the vendor was or the vendor is I don't think it's first alarm. I think it's ad t But um Maybe we need to get a clarification from barber on the money. I just know the month I just know the 25 000 number from meetings. I've been in I actually haven't seen any documentation on that Do you want to do up to that much for 48 months so we can move forward or how can we make this possible? Well, do you need us to Approve it today or we need a month We need to well, I'd be good if we could approve it because Well, let's approve the I guess the most important thing is to approve the amendment, but this is in the amendment, isn't it? No, it's not Okay, good. It says that we need to pay in the amendment, right? But it doesn't say that much Okay, so I had to just pull those numbers out. I got a 25 000 from you. I got the 48 months from the amendment, right? But yeah, it's a little unclear. I think we need to nail this down So we approved of proving them. Yeah, that's fine And then we'll get we'll get real numbers for this and do that the reason I wanted the amendment done is because Barbara's been waiting for us already about six weeks And she's been keeping the landlord waiting and he rightly wants to know where he stands So I think if we can we can probably figure out the we'll get the real numbers and then we'll we'll approve the payment As long as we do it within a month. I think we're good And I think we can do that Um, I guess we could actually table this but the thing I'm wondering about is Because once you agree to the sublease you're putting committing yourself to paying some amount of money For the system when it was installed, right? I'm wondering do you need some kind of Approval from us to make that commitment as well as the lease change She's just saying which which is fine. That's okay. I just want to make sure we can approve up to 25 000 at this point So that gives her some leeway to to pay some of the bills that I'll come up Why I mean I would be fine with something like that approving Leaving it to the to you as the executive director to pay up to 25 000 Whatever you find out is actually document I'd also Want to add in here that that this payment would be contingent upon them Accepting the contract with satellite. Yeah, so that Because that's what this is all predicated on so I Yeah, well if we Are we will not be obligated to do anything by this? This isn't our contract. It's just what we're saying is that we'll if if Satellite presents us something like this. We would do it so But I I guess what I would want to see since um one of the You know the changes in um The changes in the contract are changes that we want because it gives us clarity going forward in terms of how we're going to handle capital improvements Yes, and so and I understand why they would want to get paid for the alarm system They put in my suggestion is that let's make sure they accept the contract that we want the changes with oh, yes I get I understand Yeah, yeah, and that's the only reason we're doing it right so once they once they have Once satellite has a contract change with TAV Yeah, then we then then we can look at the numbers and do the yeah, we'll prove the other thing Yes, once there's a real contract exactly. That's the whole point. It's kind of the right But what but the contract comes first then we pay just make ours contingent upon that And give you authority up to 25 000 dollars Seventy percent of the documentation. Yeah, it's only 17 something 18,000. Uh, pardon me up to 17,000 Yeah, up to 18,000. Okay. I think that works. Yeah. Yeah, I believe so Yes Contingent so you contingent upon the other All right, so that so let's I so why'd you make a motion? I so moved you need me larry to Got it. Okay Move second that I moved by your What a moving experience Well, I would feel better if larry could read back to us exactly what it says, okay We know we're voting off. Okay, so approve the expenditures in the in the of 18 up to 18,000 dollars contingent upon the approval of the Contract with both the landlord and the leasy to have it Added to the sublease. Is that correct? So we won't approve the spend the the 18,000 until the contract between Satellite and the landlord has been approved and that language is in the sublease Yeah, correct. Perfect. All right And I was including the asking for clarification about Whether that's this amount is just for the initial installation Of the system or if it includes any sort of monthly charges or I think we're gonna do that, but it's gonna be a separate thing. It's kind of a separate issue We'll get that information. Okay, and we don't we don't have it today and we probably want to get it so we can decide There'll be a process while this happens It stands to reason that might be just separate that this this amount is just for the equipment and the installation Yeah, it's just if this happens then we would Go forward with the other okay Okay, call the vote any other questions before we vote Okay, all those in favor say aye. Aye opposed our abstentions Okay, we'll move on to the volunteer advisory committee chair report. I'll keep it brief today basically The volunteer advisory committee some of the members who helped with Putting everything out in for the floor We're very excited people are very excited about the floor and I hope it also means that People are continuing and making more programs And there are actually some programs that I just wanted to mention you that I did a program with two of Genesis employee about the library and and I was really a pleasure and I think there's going to be more because the library is doing so much That there's so much content that we could draw from that But I also know that the director for today she continues with her program The person called the descendants to the imagination of the imagination And I think we have a couple of new people doing or renewal people doing programs We will once we have the green screen back in We will have another green screen Class workshop for the producers and directors. So that's exciting other than that volunteers are Volunteering That's that's what we do best And to your Yeah, well the my thank Matilda and Keith for helping me find somebody to finally do the floor Actually not helping me. It actually did it And uh, but I forgot to thank all the people and there were lots of people that came in here and took down all these heavy curtains And put them back up again and took out everything in the studio had to be removed And there had to be Plastic run across the ceiling to protect all the lights and it was like Hard and not you know hard Icky work not any fun and uh, not not particularly rewarding So I want to thank all of those volunteers who did that and gave up a saturday afternoon or sunday afternoon to come and do that work And and carrying out those green screen panels was difficult and they were heavy and bulky and they had to go quite a ways with them So um, you know special thanks to all of those people who volunteer for us Hopefully they got some hours didn't they? Yeah, yeah, but you know, but any thanks Absolutely And since we're all have our two feet on the ground we're a solidly continuing what we do best is volunteering It's excellent that we couldn't do it without the volunteers. So it's wonderful to have them The reward is on the floor, but hopefully not jimmy hafa I have pictures of when we had it all empty and plastic all over the ceiling if you want to see it after the meeting The before and after That's my report Thank you the next report is the oral report of the board chair And the only thing I wanted to talk about this month is that We scheduled a fund development meeting Last week. We didn't have a quorum, but we still judy and beca and I met and we had a very productive Meeting that's why there are no minutes here. It wasn't an official meeting. We just sat and chatted And I had already asked judy ahead of time if she would say a few things about what we discussed during the board Great. Um, so we talked about one educated me about how You know Community tv works and the need for you know, putting some of this money at work So we actually addressed an invited eric wrestler from cosmic Media agency to spend some time with us and he spent an hour telling us about their needs on and I had known of this agency because we like video and we were thinking of using videos for Sandbox and so We thought they might be a good candidate to sort of educate us on what was important And if they had any needs for equipment leasing and so on and they had quite a few ideas We're looking into them They had lighting ideas. They had camera and lens ideas that they might need Though they're going back and thinking about whether they would want to purchase them or work with their partners. They have media partners To do that. And I think we left it to beca to actually follow up. Yeah. Yeah Then there was another uh, just a spur of the moment while I was talking to beca Actually startup sandbox has some equipment needs Uh, which are not for video equipment Uh, but at least to find out how it all works We put that through and beca took it to the cfo and it seemed a little outside The purview of video equipment and so on it's more like lab benches and centrifuges and refrigerators and so Uh, we weren't sure if that was too far outside the box And so we left it for a future discussion and the actual next meeting too far outside the sandbox Yes, it's in our sandbox, but I'm sure But it was a good meeting and we have some good leads and so we have more to follow up on Thank you Okay So the next item is the board member or staff request for specific items to appear on the next meeting agenda Um, I know If there is more detail on the money for the security system, we would like to see that in the next Is there any other things that we know of The next meeting will also be the budget because already working on it and send it to the finance committee. So They're already looking at that And then it was mentioned earlier the report back from the grant committee the youth grant committee Okay And we are set on digital Yeah, we have to digital that in particular Yeah, there'll be a report on that report Okay, yes, I want to make sure I knew what that was and um, I was wondering I don't know if it was tom or joe had mentioned something about uh Since i'm new to the board fairly um a spring retreat. Is that something that we have continued to do? Is it something that didn't did you mention it? No I'm excited in the past in the past of the spring. I thought somebody mentioned we did a winter one before And we've done an august one since we don't have an august board meeting. We've done it in august before I see and that might be an appropriate time um, I was hoping that It's the fund development committee works through some ideas and we have some solid proposals not only where they come to the board meeting It might be appropriate a board retreat And we can talk offline. I'm just curious what that looks like and what happens and You know, is it at esalen and the hot tubs? I looked at the budget And then another item and doesn't have to be for next meeting, but I just thought it was an idea While we're waiting for content from the youth grantee awardees That maybe we send a production team out to them to create some kind of a spot about How how this came about? and what Great things are happening because We don't have any staff Okay, we can find some volunteers so volunteers to do it. Yeah, we can't we can't orchestrate that We don't and the one good thing about us. I think now in the production world of santa cruises. We don't produce things So we are resource and support for local producers. So we don't we actually don't enter into production anymore Okay, although I think it would be a great idea. It is a great idea What I mean is if one school went to another school And looked around also making the connection there look around what they do and then that school That's the digital nest and digital nest. That's the first school. I think that would be a great Connecting thing and they can do little documentaries about each other's programs. All right. Well, I like your idea better than We can use it to promote the youth grant program. Yeah, I I'm glad the video on the grant program page. Yeah, so maybe we can work on that with those three groups Right up. We'll talk about yeah, we can talk to them about it. We don't require it But it would be nice up to them Well, we can only dream. Yeah, sure, of course, yeah Maybe next year the grant committee can rewrite the requirements Give us one five minute PSA of our choice. Yeah, you could say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one All right any other requests Okay, then we'll go to announcements. I'd like to thank the volunteers that helped on tonight's production I'm the jenakis karen scott jim russo nick kirkendall sherry ross and don barbwell And with that we're ready for adjourn. I'll make a motion to adjourn the meeting I'll second that. Okay, so all in favor Aye. Opposed Then so we're going to adjourn at 6 20 p.m. Thank you