 Okay, I think we'll kick into things. So Kia ora koutou, welcome again. Wonderful to have you all joining us today. My name is Alina Secrete and I look after the content and communications here at EHF. I'm going to let our other panelists introduce themselves as well. So Paula, do you want to kick that off? Yes, Kia ora. I'm Paula and I'm part of Operations and Community Support in Immiglory Fellowship. Excited to be here with this amazing woman. Debbie? I'm Debbie. I'm part of the New Frontiers Events team with EHF. And our fellows, do you want to kick it off Ann-Marie? Sure. Hi, I'm Ann-Marie Brooke. How much of an introduction do you want, just names at the stage? Just a name and a brief introduction, I think, of the work that you're doing and we'll have a chance to get more into your story a little later on. So I'm based here in Wellington, which is where the EHT, EHF team is also based and I'm one of the co-founders of an initiative that's producing human rights metrics for countries. Sonja? Kia ora everyone. I am Sonja Renee Taylor. I am the founder and radical executive officer of a digital media and education company called The Body is Not an Apology. I'm also a performance poet and author. Very cool. Hi, everyone. Kia ora. Hola. I am Dina and I am from Mexico. I am based between the US and New Zealand, currently in New York City. And I founded an organization called Education for Sharing with the mission of forming better citizens through the power of play for all kinds of children in every context. Thank you so much. Fantastic. Thank you, everybody. I'll kick into about five or ten minutes now to just quickly go through what is the Admissibility Fellowship. What's it about? How can you apply? And we'll go through that reasonably quickly. So if you're interested in a much more in depth overview of the slide deck that I'm going to go through, it'll be worth checking out previous webinar recordings on our YouTube channel. That's where we go much more into depth about the program itself. But today we are going to be focused on the stories more of three of our incredible women fellows who have decided to join our call, which is very exciting. So I'm going to go through the next bit quite quickly. I'm just going to screen share here so that you can see our slides. Let me know if this is showing up for you. All right. So we're here to talk about the Admissibility Fellowship. What EHF is essentially is a global community of entrepreneurs, investors and change makers who are solving global challenges based out of New Zealand. And whether that's basing yourselves physically in New Zealand or working closely with New Zealand entrepreneurs and basing yourself from wherever it is that makes sense for you right now, that's something that's really up to everybody's individual circumstance. But I want to emphasize that it is a global community that we are building. We've got fellows. We've got catalysts. We've got partners. We've got team who are working from all corners of the globe. And so that's what we're really focused on building is a global community. EHF is a platform for you to be able to collaborate with other like-minded people who are interested in improving the world and growing as individuals as well as business people and entrepreneurs. We're aiming to provide a world-class support network. So in the recognition that nobody does this kind of work alone, we all need each other. And looking at fellows that are really interested in creating long-term connection with New Zealand. So really putting down roots here. And as I said a moment ago, whether that looks like immediately moving here and establishing a base for your operations here or whether it means you might take a few more years to develop some of your business and project networks here. We're open to a few different options in that regard. We run a number of events every year. The big one of which is our New Frontiers Summits and Welcome Week Retreats for Fellows. So we had the last one back in April where we welcomed Cohort 2. The next one is in October, November and we'll be welcoming Cohort 3, which we've just recently selected. Throughout sort of the rest of the year we have smaller regional gatherings in different cities. And a lot of this is being driven by the fellows depending on where they are. So we've got quite strong communities popping up in Christchurch, in Wellington, a little bit in Auckland as well. And in some of the regions as well, Nelson's got quite a good mass of fellows that are looking to settle there. So a lot of that will be quite emergent over the next few years as the community grows. We've got a space for online connection and collaborating with your other fellows. And that's a community that we're continuing to build up and experiment with new tools on. And then you've got the EHF's team which also aims to support people on a more of a one-on-one basis depending on what your individual needs are. So this is just a bit of a sense of what our New Frontiers gatherings look like. There's a lot of focus on informal space and time and just sitting around in circles and people very much driving the conversation. So putting up their hand to co-host specific sessions. There's a chance for exploring some new technologies and so on. And really kind of connecting on a person-to-person level as well. So a few thoughts now on why New Zealand, why have we chosen New Zealand to be this base camp for a better world, this home of global impact. And there are a few reasons why, you know, reasons that make New Zealand ideal for being a place where you can test and incubate new impact-based ideas. So historically we have a very strong record of civil liberties and political rights with the least corrupt country in the world, the second most peaceful country. We were the first country in the world to give women the right to vote, which is a point that I'm particularly proud of. While we're not at all perfect, I think it's really cool that we're been a leader for a lot of the Western world in healing some of the wounds of colonisation around Indigenous relationships and rights. We have the Treaty of Waitangi here in New Zealand, which is the founding document of our nation between the Māori people and the Pākehā settlers. And generally leading a lot of the world ranks in generosity, diversity and happiness. Auckland is the second most diverse city in the world, I believe, after Vancouver. So Auckland is more diverse than New York and London and some of those other big hubs. So it's an exciting place to be. It's also really great in terms of scaling early stage of benches and trying out new ideas here. So World Bank has called us first in the world for ease of doing business. Our particular geographic location means that we have pretty good strong relationships with both east and the west. We've got a well-educated workforce so you can find stuff for your companies here. And generally very flexible. So New Zealand is small enough that you can get a CEO on the phone or you can talk to an elected official and you can actually talk to the decision makers here and test new ideas and get things done, which really creates an atmosphere conducive to innovation. Just briefly going to go through a few of our companies who've come out of New Zealand, whose names you might recognise, some who you may not. Weta Digital, of course, is one of Wellington's biggest exports. They did Avatar, Lord of the Rings, King Kong, lots of big Hollywood blockbusters and really pushing the boundaries of digital effects there. Zero is an accounting firm which have just made really sleek easy to use accounting software, several billion dollar valuations. That's one of our bigger tech success stories. A bit closer to home we've got examples like Sunfed Meats who are using pea proteins and vegetable proteins to create replacement chicken products, which I think quite, I haven't tried them yet, but I've heard they're quite convincing. And so really looking at lowering the environmental impact of protein productions and the Inspiral Network is a really cool, I guess, collaborative experiment that was born out of Wellington and is a network of about 300 freelancers, creatives, entrepreneurs, investors and artists that are all working under the umbrella of stuff that matters, and they tend to work as a non-hierarchical platform cooperative type of model where the members of the network really drive what's going on. So that's a really cool experiment in participatory decision making there at Inspiral. Talk a little bit about who we're looking for in terms of our fellows, the kind of qualities we're looking for, and we'll briefly cover how to get involved as well. So here's our selection criteria, and as I said, I'm going through this quite quickly. You can have a look on YouTube if you want to dive more in detail or on our website, but we're looking for people who have a really bold vision to solve systemic challenges and interconnected challenges in society and who are focused on creating positive impact and looking at new ways of doing things. We're looking for those who have demonstrated the capability and drive to actually execute on their visions and deliver on the things they say that they want to do. Those who can build long-term connections with this country and leverage some of those unique advantages and qualities that I mentioned before on developing innovative products, those who are really interested in contributing to a global community. So going back to that idea of EHF, the strength of it really being the community and the way that people help each other out, and so people that are interested in being part of that family over the next 10 to 20 years rather than just participating in a short program and then moving on. And then of course, people who generally are going to be great ambassadors for New Zealand and help promote New Zealand innovation and New Zealand social enterprise and impact on the global stage. And there's a little brief mention there of some of the values that EHF looks for in fellows, including boldness, excellence, global impact into connectedness, and a spirit of kaitiakitanga, which is loosely translated as stewardship as well. You can find out more on our website there, thehf.org forward slash apply. Now how to get involved. We're currently recruiting for cohort four applications at the moment. We have an early bird deadline coming up on the first of August. So in New Zealand that's tomorrow, but for much of the rest of the world it's the day after. So there are still two days to apply for cohort four and make, take advantage of early bird pricing, which I think is $100 off the application fee. And then our final cohort for deadline is the second of September. We'll be going through the selection process after that between September and November and be letting fellows, the successful fellows know at that point whether or not they've been selected and that process involves a number of steps and shortlisting processes throughout that, some video interviews for some and so on. The global impact visa is something that happens separately and after you've been accepted into EHF. So acceptance into EHF is the first step. And we hope by that stage you will have already done your homework as to whether you can qualify for a global impact visa in terms of health and character requirements. So at that point you do the formal application with Immigration New Zealand. And we're looking at March 2019 for welcome week for cohort four in New Zealand. And attendance at that welcome week is compulsory and it's really I think some of the fellows can speak to shortly incredible opportunity to get to know your cohort and really build some deep connections there in a beautiful place and get to know each other as people as well as the projects and the businesses. I've just covered off that. So a couple more days left to get you early bird applications in. Some brief just instructions here on how to apply. You can go to the apply page on our website. If you're not quite ready to apply, but you'd like to tell us about your idea and just kind of run it past us, you can express interest on our website to receive updates. EHF.org slash connect. And we will do our best to reach out to to those people who are most aligned with the program. Our fee structure is such that part of the fee is payable on application when you first apply. And then if you're accepted into the program there is also an acceptance fee essentially that only those who make it through all the stages have to pay as well. So that opens it up a little bit more to those who just want to give it a go and don't necessarily have to pay the whole free fee up front. We do have scholarships available for a couple more days. These are needs based. So you you can find details about that on the apply page on our website. And that those are available for international entrepreneur applicants only. The New Zealand entrepreneur price is already heavily subsidized. So the the price for application fees for keyways is is quite a bit lower than than the international entrepreneurs and investors. So at this stage I would love to hand it over to Anne Marie to tell us a little bit more about your journey into EHF, how you've been fighting the program and anything else you'd love to to chat about. Kia ora thanks Alina. So yeah I guess my journey is I actually started off life as an economist my professional life not my entire life and I I found myself at some point becoming really really interested in human rights and what different what difference government respect for human rights could make to economic development and people's lives and as an economist I wanted to use data to explore relationships between respect for human rights and economic development so forth and I realized that there wasn't any such data. And over a long period of several years I reached out to the most people around the world and we ended up founding the initiative Human Rights Measurement Initiative. At the time that I applied for EHF so I was applying for the first cohort and that was kind of first half of last year. I was really attracted to it in part because I was I was feeling a little bit lonely in my entrepreneurial journey and so I was looking for a a network of people who could you know I could share you know the challenges and who could provide that kind of support of what it's like to be an entrepreneur and the kind of roller coaster ride that involves and also I thought that EHF would help to build my profile as a relatively new entrepreneur and all those things have turned out to be more than true. I've been really really happy with you know I was so excited to be accepted. It's been a wonderful experience for me to be part of this wonderful network of people all who are caring really caring about having global impact. It's in so many different ways and at so many different levels and yeah it's I would say you know one of the questions that kind of Alina said to to focus on was how does how has my experience compared with what I expected. I was expecting it to be great but it's been even better so is there anything else that you wanted me to cover but I haven't specifically spoken to. A little bit about how EHF has specifically helped in the type of work that you're doing. It'd be great to hear a little bit more about the Human Rights Measurement Initiative and how the connections can help you. Yeah so yeah I think in some ways what I'm doing is you know there's no one else at least that I'm aware of so far in the community who's working directly on human rights. I think for some people they're working on topics where there's a lot of alignment very closely with other fellows and some of them have actually started working together and really co-creating things. For me I expect there probably will be more of a community that we can build around those issues in the future but so far what I've noticed in terms of the connections have been you know it's a very global project and EHF helps to provide that global profile that may have been harder to build from New Zealand you know in terms of starting a new initiative. We are working with countries all around the world. We have an expert survey that we send to human rights experts in countries around the world to seek information from them about what's actually happening on the ground in those countries. I think there's lots of scope for the actual connections within EHF around my work to be built further but even already I would say that the biggest impact for me personally has been the profile raising and the personal support and collaboration just from other fellows and from sharing experiences and getting that kind of more personal support. Fantastic thank you Anne-Marie. I think what we'll do is is hear from some of our other fellows at this point and we'll leave a lot of time at the end for questions and perhaps diving into specifically some of those angles that our participants want to know a little more about. I see Amy's got a question here about exactly what's involved in EHF. Really great question. We'll get to that I think a little bit later but we'll in the meantime it'd be wonderful to hear a little bit from Sonya if you'd like to take the mic. I know you're very good at taking the mic. So my journey to EHF was very sort of serendipitous and accidental. I was the first time that I came to New Zealand was in 2009. I was invited as a poet for the often writers festival and I was here for 10 days and I fell in love and I was like I love that place and I would love to go back one day and so in between that time 2009 and 2017 I had gone from being a performance poet to accidentally which seems to be a theme in my life accidentally things happen. Accidentally tumbling into my work with my company the body is not an apology. Like I said we're a digital media and education company who looks at the intersection of identity and social justice and using a framework we call radical self-love and so really looking at how do we interrupt a body-based oppression by shifting the way that we understand and relate to our own bodies and the bodies of other people. And so for my 40th birthday in 2016 I decided I was going to do something absurd and gift myself a trip back to New Zealand to see if I loved it as much as I thought I did. The second day that I was there a friend introduced me over the internet to another friend who lived in Auckland and that friend happened to be having a birthday party and asked if this random stranger would like to come and I was like sure I'd love to and at the end of the party it's just she and I and our husband and we're sitting around talking and she's like I'm really excited about this project that I'm working on that is bringing social impact entrepreneurs to incubate global impact projects from New Zealand and I was like that sounds very fascinating I want to know more and so she sent me the interest letter for this thing that was totally new that had not even really been kicked off yet but I was I was immediately intrigued I was intrigued because of the sort of powerful capacity for change that I think New Zealand has the ability to quickly adopt an idea and then have it reach scale one because of size and also because of sort of location and that sort of thing I was really inspired by the relationship of the country with its indigenous community while not being perfect light years away from the way that that relationship looks in the U.S. and so I was just really intrigued and wanted to know more I sent in an interest letter and the last day of my trip Alina and Yosef who is the CEO sort of head of the project invited me in to talk unbeknownst to me at that time Alina was like I already know you you judged me in a poetry slam which was hilarious and so that's sort of got the ball rolling that conversation really solidified for me that there was a vision that EHF was holding as it relates to what are interesting creative innovative things that folks are doing that can change the world and that was something that I was inspired and interested in and so I knew that I was going to apply and it all happened really quickly I applied for the push cohort found out in the late summer and decided I was going to move my life to New Zealand to do this work and so I've been here between here in the U.S. since October. Fantastic and how have you found New Zealand so far in terms of being a place where you can build your work? It's been really amazing one of the things that I think has been most powerful about EHF is connection is the way in which someone knows someone who knows that you're the exact person for the thing whatever the thing is and so so much of the relationships that I've built have been someone saying oh you need to talk to so-and-so and then I talk to so-and-so and then all of these things open up so it's it's it's fascinating New Zealand is two degrees I want to say it's one degree of separation literally so I ended up being covered on a news story or a workshop that I did here which I got as a result of someone in the fellowship introducing me to someone else and that news story is national and so then I walked into the motor vehicle place to get my car fixed and the lady was like I know you you're the radical self-love lady and so that's actually been happening around the country so I mean I'm pretty visible but beyond that there's just a way in which ideas can spark really quickly here and I think EHF has created the container for that to happen. Thank you Sonya Dina we'd love to hear a little bit about your story and how you came to EHF and how you've been finding the experience so far you're in a you're a fellow in our second cohort so Anne Marie and Sonya are in cohort one and Dina joins cohort two so over to you. Hey thank you so much yeah it's just a tremendous community that that I've been so privileged to join the EHF is really I think one of the most amazing and brilliant communities because you are suddenly surrounded by brilliant minds but really also simultaneously brilliant hearts and that combination I think it's just so powerful and it's it's the essence of of EHF and it's just inviting you to to become a part of a very diverse community from all over the world from very different passions with the same really vision of changing the world I was in love with with this vision because when when I met the EHF team I was like wow you are inviting us to go to this beautiful place far or near relatively and you're inviting us to create from there to the rest of the world and to learn from other people's solutions and from other people's expertise areas and so I was really really moved by by the vision and knowing that when you talk to each person at EHF team and the other fellows you know that you're talking with real real people and intentions go beyond intentions no they really reach a very concrete and tangible place and so I yes I mean I was also like Sonya in love with New Zealand from the moment I I had the opportunity to to be there for the first time I was an exchange an exchange student in Dunedin the south of the South Island in 2004 and so when when I return now with my family as a whatever grown-up means I met Joseph and he was sharing about this idea that they were already working on and and I it just clicked you know it made a lot of sense and dedicating my life to forming better citizens from young ages through the power of play and realizing that in in my mind a better citizen is someone that has a purpose and that that purpose involves like a greater a greater ambition beyond oneself it's like what makes you happy what makes you your heartbeat and when you realize from a young age that it what really makes your heartbeat is being able to contribute to other people's lives then it it everything makes sense and when I understood that beyond the seven Latin American countries where we are operating and the US we could reach like the whole world from New Zealand it just made a the most amazing sense in in our whole system I share this with my team and my team in Mexico was like this sounds crazy crazily amazingly and and they were really enjoying already the the vision of of what this could mean you know and just like Sonia was was sharing and I had a very similar experience being from cohort two we were in New Zealand in April and May and just the kind of connections that the HF allows and the kind of welcome that you received from people I was living again in Dunedin and it's just how fast do ideas take their a life of their own no and how people are super receptive and just so willing to share and to learn and to collaborate and co-create this is a kind of atmosphere that I have found in New Zealand and yes just like like as a very fun and interesting example I guess it's in other countries where we've tried to where we've set up a legal structure it can take up to two years and the the EHF connected us to some pro bono lawyers who were going to help us establish legally and and they said well it takes two weeks and I I thought they were joking huh coming from from Latin America this just seems like a like a fun joke but it's it's real no and so and people are very very well well intentioned and super hardworking and so it's an environment where everything happens so if you are listening from Latin America or from anywhere anywhere that you've experienced like very tough bureaucratic processes I think you'll you'll just be blown away by by New Zealand's tremendously agile system no and that that's very uplifting uh because because then you can really start and collaborating with the government and with the business community and with other entrepreneurs and it just it's not an obstacle so I think it like really you you find a very easy way to to navigate the system which is huge and plus it is a very diverse country I'm also in love with the the culture and the respect that's paid to the to the language and to the traditions and to of course like Alina and Sonia have said it's not perfect but it's just coming from Mexico and I feel super identified in the sense that we also have a very strong cultural wealth however we have not been close close to to recognizing and acknowledging that in a way in a way that New Zealand has so it's very very inspiring and I'm just thrilled to see how fast things are moving forward whether you're an investor or a social entrepreneur I think there is there is just so so much opportunity to to make things happen from New Zealand to the rest of the world. Dina you mentioned before that this is like a you're finding it in a really great place to conduct some of your work um do you want to just talk just for a couple of minutes briefly and then we'll get into some questions but about what what what is the the way that you use the the power of play what kind of things are you are you teaching young young people what's the the basis of this? Yes basically because we want children to to discover the what what they're passionate about and what kind of issues bring them together and they can work together on so the games that we play are related with the sustainable development goals from UN which are the major global challenges and these may they sound very abstract or or so far away because they are subjects such as ending poverty ending hunger and and so through play it's a super powerful way to experience these issues in equality health environment issues but in a way that allows you to to be become a part of the solution and to come up with your own conclusions in a fun healthy engaging way on how you want to what kind of of actor you're going to be in your community and how how do you want to to to roll out this purpose that you've that you've found no in a in a way that allows you to have a better relationship with your parents with your teachers because we train teachers with these methodologies so that they can implement a way I mean they're teaching in a fun way and always including the subjects of the sustainable development goals so that children not only learn about what they are but they can tell you what they are going to do from their communities or what they've done from their communities to address them in a very concrete way so it's it's very very powerful and now listening to Brooke I was I was thinking wow we have to work together because you know if you if you have found a way to measure the human rights in an innovative way I think this is very much on a very similar on a very similar thread and that's what happens that's the magic that happens when you meet the other fellows you just start your your mind starts going to a thousand hundred places at least know where all the synergies that can happen and how much you can learn from each other and fellows really become your family so you I don't have to know Brooke before and Marie and Marie from before I just know she's an EHF fellow and there is an immediate trust and connection and feeling like like we are part of the same community so so I'm just you of our fellows have opened to the the the power of sorry to interrupt I'm just conscious of time the power of the the community I think and the connections so I wondered if it might be a great idea just have Debbie just say for a couple of minutes how we design the welcome week experience to try and really foster those those deep connections between fellows and just to remind you can you can ask fellows sorry ask questions of our fellows or ask questions of our team through the q&a box and we'll address those shortly so just let you know and remind you to keep those questions coming if you've got them so the welcome week is a chance for all our new fellows to come together and as Alina said form deep connections and through it's it's full immersion so basically we all stay out in a glamping village together close to nature with opportunities to hear from hear each other's stories but also get to know people as people before hearing about their yeah about their work that they do all their stories going from there into new frontiers is an opportunity to connect with the the wider community so it really is a chance to form connections in a in a space where yeah people can hear the stories which really gives an idea of what everyone on what people are doing hearing from our international speakers as well international local speakers and yeah to get a sense of the community connecting to the community cool thank you Debbie I thought Amy's got a question here around it'll be great to know exactly what's involved in the HF so that's that's a really great question we're we're quite focused on building the connections between the fellows and then letting letting a lot of that work happen in a more self-directed way so the HF is not an accelerator program it's not an incubator there are some overlapping threads of those kinds of models but essentially what we're building and I keep coming back to this concept of community so it's a fellowship community that supports each other the ways that fellows are going about their work is quite diverse so some are building new companies some are you know have got companies that are that are mature or definitely move beyond the startup phase to actually the the stay up phase as I call it and then we've got people who've you know built billion-dollar companies in California as well and then and then some who are very much operating at the in the grassroots and community level and so we've we've really not we're not I guess in the business of directing how you should go about your work but we're here as a support network in a community for for whatever makes sense for you so really what you get out of the program is is what you put in there's a few questions here that I think we can put to some of our fellows so first quick one from Nicole and let's let's try to keep answers to around about a minute because we've got a few questions to get through but I'm curious to hear from our fellows have you always seen yourselves as entrepreneurs well I can start by answering that I would say that at a level yes I always wanted to be developing new ways of making the world a better place and actually when I was in more conventional jobs when I was being employed as an economist I often used to feel slightly envious of people who would label themselves entrepreneurs and kind of think oh I wish I wish I was doing something a little bit more entrepreneurial so I always had that running through my blood and when it came to the to the decision point where I actually jumped off my more conventional path into being a more explicitly self-labelled social entrepreneur it was a really it was a exciting time for me um Sonia or Dina have you got any thoughts on that on that question have you always seen yourself as entrepreneurs um Sonia okay yes I mean I I started when I was 24 years old and this this was my first job so I didn't have a clear idea of actually I've never heard the word social entrepreneur before in my life I didn't know I was one but then I someone told me that that was what I was doing and yes I just kept going nice so a bit of a variation there between between our fellows Alana's got a fantastic question here um to to explore what what the fellows experience how has the experience been um as women in the program um our most recent cohort is a little bit skewed in the favor of of of male fellows we started out really well with a 50 50 split in cohort one um which we were really proud of um that we've we've found in um in cohort three um we've ended up with um yeah a lot a lot more male participants and less of a gender equality than we would have liked so curious to hear fellows um experiences as women in the program and perhaps a few have even gotten the ideas of of how we can refer great women to come through um and apply for the program um so we can look at actually um rectifying that split a little bit any comments on that uh Sonia you're on mute but I see you're on the talk so um so yeah I think that I mean as a woman in I mean I think in some ways I actually have what's a really unique situation in the fact that I'm a single woman in the fellowship a single black woman in the fellowship who moved to New Zealand um I'm the only one of all of those things um and so I do think that the um there is a bit of a sort of kind of choose your own adventurous story that I think the fellowship offers which is um you know you've got to come with some vision and you've got to come with a willingness to kind of risk in a way that I think we don't always encourage women societally to do um and so I think there is some just convince some reminding um women that that actually we risk all the time and oftentimes we risk in service to other people's visions rather than risking in service to our own so I think there's something about that narrative that's important to get out in the world and I also think um that there's just a level of intentionality in any place where there is inherently a gender skew and the reality is that in the startup and entrepreneurial world there is a gender skewing towards males um because they're because of privilege and because of patriarchy and sexism and all of those isms that live in the world um which means that we have got to be exceptionally intentional about um doing a level of recruitment to women that makes it even like we've got to push harder towards women in order to end up with 50 50 rather than hoping that it'll just kind of work out in the wash and so I'm really glad about this particular um webinar because it's part of that like direct focus towards telling women entrepreneurs and one of the things that I would say is I it meant lots of women who've been like oh I don't know if my idea is good enough I think that kind of self-talk that women do about not being good enough keeps us from applying to things like this and it's one of the things we've got to get from that yes that classic dilemma that women women who are like 90 qualified will not put themselves forward well often men who are 40 qualified won't hesitate exactly um have any of either of our other fellows dina or enri if you got any um thoughts to speak to that question at all I think it's it's understandable that um for example I have family I have a uh two-year-old daughter and my husband and I think it it can pose a uh a challenge an extra challenge to think of how do I move with my family and how do I do this because logistically it can be it can be a quite an adventure and and I I'm happy to say that it is an adventure and and it's fun and it helps you grow and I think there are a lot of different ways to to navigate um each situation so I would I would certainly encourage um women who are who are having this sort of questions around what do I do if I want to move but I have a family and I would I would love to to invite them to also talk with with me and or other women that that have that are part of the fellows that have families because it's it's just a matter of of of understanding the the different a logistical pathways no and and it is possible I can tell you from experience and nothing is nothing is supposed to be a piece of cake but but you can do it and you can always find solutions and you can always um have these common and common goals with uh with the other fellows and with the hf team to help you navigate because you're never alone and that's I think very important when you join this community yep just briefly anything from you and Marie otherwise we've got a couple of questions that I'll I can answer from a logistical perspective yeah I think I would just reinforce what Sanya and Dina have said I do think that you know women need to more consciously believe in themselves because we do have those tend to have those internal voices and I I had exactly that thing that you mentioned you know there was a voice inside of me going no no you're not good enough to be a fellow and I had to kind of override that to bring myself to a prime and I think not only do we need to encourage ourselves but also encourage those we know and you know talking about the fact that there is though there are those different biases that we have as men versus women I think making people consciously aware of that can really help and you know I also I'm also a mother I've also got a young child and sorry I mean it's easier for me because I'm already based in New Zealand but again I would just reinforce Dina's point that there's lots of different ways to do things what's one of the beauties of EHF is that there's no set path everybody makes their own path and the other thing I'd say is that the community itself is just so incredibly supportive there's no expectations to conform to anything in particular it's a community that's going to celebrate you being who you are and the wonderful the wonderful vision that you have in whichever niche area that means so it really is a beautiful place to be as a woman oh thank you thank you and Marie and we've got a few more questions here I'd love to just get to Amy's asking about financial support the requirement for fellows to be in New Zealand a nice bonus of the EHF and the global impact visa is that there is no minimum day requirement to be in New Zealand it's a very flexible visa in that regard and really is in response to the fact that we recognize our fellows that are making global impact in a lot of different ways and that doesn't always necessarily mean that they need to be based physically in New Zealand for a certain amount of days each year so it's very flexible in terms of travel financial support we are unable to offer we're not as I said an incubator and accelerator program so we don't provide any financial support you you are in the driver's seat to to facilitate investment into your own companies the flip side of that is that EHF doesn't take any equity in any of our fellows companies or ventures what we can do is help provide connections to networks and investors and so on that that may be able to help you with financial assistance. Hetty has a question here which is the criteria used to qualify so that's something I went over just briefly earlier on in terms of having a bold vision being able to actually demonstrate that you either got a track record of executing on projects and that doesn't necessarily have to be you've you've started X number of ventures it could be community-based projects volunteer projects NGOs there's a lot of different ways we can look at your track record and see that you have a history of actually following through on a vision connection to New Zealand does your idea make sense would you benefit from being part of the network and these are all things that we don't we don't necessarily have a set of checkbox checkbox measures that we that we take candidates up against we we use a sort of a multi a multi lens approach to looking at applications through written video video interviews reference checks doing a lot of background research on our candidates and also important to remember that because the EHF is a competitive program your chances of being successful as a fellow are going to vary from cohort to cohort depending on who else is applying as well because we do look at one of the final steps is the cohort as a whole does this cohort make sense as a community of people do we think they have complementary skills that that could help each other out do we have you know somebody working working in one industry or do we have too many people in another industry so that we do look at the cohort as a whole as one of our final selection steps just if we've finished up the questions in the Q&A box there was a couple of questions I think that's came through in the chat window as well Simone has asked does the EHF give opportunities to carry out research-based projects that's a great question and the short answer is generally not what we're looking for is projects that have scalability potential but it's not it's not black and white so we take a sort of a very one one one-to-one case-by-case approach to those sorts of things if you are talking about you know a research project through a university or something like that then then we'd probably be looking for something that's certainly able to be scaled globally if not commercialized but then there are you know there's some fellows Anne-Marie for example there's a lot of a bit a big research component to your project as well so it's not it's not purely just we're looking for commercial businesses it's it's probably more of the focus but yeah it's not it's not a clean cut answer sorry you you're always welcome to put through an expression of interest on our website as well through that's ehf.org forward slash connect and tell us about the idea there and we'll and we can get in touch if it if it seems like a good fit any other questions to come through do you require fellows to incorporate their firms in New Zealand from Marie no we don't some of our fellows have already incorporated their firms overseas and that and it makes sense for them to be based there still um they may look at setting up an office or some sort of a side arm of their organization here in New Zealand um others it just makes sense to keep on operating from where they are but perhaps start taking on some New Zealand clients or collaborating with other New Zealand fellows or entrepreneurs here as well we have one minute left so if any any keen beings there uh want to get last question through then you're then you're welcome to I'll leave it for another few seconds there you're welcome Nicole um and just going back to um I think the conversation around how how we can really we can really encourage a lot more women entrepreneurs to apply for ehf um please let your networks of incredible women know about the program women and and other marginalized changes as well um and just let them know this is available um that we want to support that we want to support you and we love you to put your name forward um so those that are on the webinar please share it if you're watching on youtube you know there's a big share button down there um make use of it um it'd be fantastic to see a lot more um really yeah strong strong wahine woman coming to this program as well we are on three o'clock so I think we will um we will cut it off there um and yeah you can reach out to our team through the website if you do have any additional questions I want to thank our fellows immensely uh Sonia and Marie it looks like we've lost Dina but um yeah I mean thank yous for your time this afternoon it's been fantastic chatting with you bye see you later everybody