 started the project and he took a Hawaiian plant and crossed it to the super skunk cut yeah and then he got a he got like a super skunk line for lack of a better term yeah right bred that a couple of times and then he took a he took some males of that and tossed it on the we tossed it on the the chem yeah and the super dog was born right and I was helping him a little bit in the middle of that and then him and I worked together on hunting through a bunch of super dog itself right and doing further outcrosses so there was some stuff on the east coast that might have had a similar name that came about in a very different fashion you know