 There is an attack on Assam. If Assam is India, then India is Assam. There will be nothing with hatred. You have destroyed the entire Indian country. You have destroyed our strength. Greetings. Greetings to all of you. Thank you very much for joining me for the interview and special in the holy dance. So first of all, thank you. Happy holy. In Assam, there is a school of opinion that your party has done reasonably well in the fast phase. That's my first question. What's your take on that? Yeah, I would agree with that. You would be better than Hindi? Yes. I agree. You would be better in the fast phase. Our performance here is good. So how much do you expect? I don't go into expectations. I don't predict the future. I don't predict the future. I don't have the capability. But I am in a positive mood. And I have made a lot of choices. So the result will come. The entire election you have done, the entire thing is based on a word called guarantee. You have given five guarantees. What is this guarantee? What is it? We have experienced this in 36 homes and in Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan. We had a clear cut commitment in 36 homes and Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh. If we win the elections, then we will give it to you. There will be no words to say. We won't say 50 things. We will say four or five things. But we will do that. You go to 36 homes. We made two or three commitments there. We made a commitment to forgive the farmers. We did that within six hours. And we did that in Assam. What we felt was critical. We didn't say that. We ran the manifesto process. We went to the people of Assam. We went to the tea gardens. We asked them what it is. They gave us the input. We said that they would guarantee the Congress party. You gave us one of the biggest guarantees. The car was a very sentimental and emotional and touchy subject. You said that the car will be repealed or replaced. We spoke the language. How it is possible? We will not allow it. We will not allow it. You are giving a mandate to run the state. It will be done in the assembly and we will not allow the car to come into Assam. Simple. Can you explain? We are not going to allow it. Is it a central law? We are going to pass it in the assembly. We are not going to allow it. Is it possible? Yes, it's possible. We will do it. How can a central law stop in Assam? We will pass in the assembly that the car will not be applicable in Assam. We will not implement it. At the end of the day, we are going to have to implement it. We won't implement it. This is against Assamese culture. This is against Assamese history. This is against the Assamese idea. We are not going to do it. Do you think that your anti-car posture has taken... Look, it's not only an anti-car posture. This is not just an anti-car posture. This is a pro-Assam posture. This is against Assam. This is an attack. On language, on the idea, on history, on culture. This is a way to attack Assam. We won't accept it. We won't let it happen. This is what I am saying in Tamil Nadu. If Assam is India, then India is Assam. It means a relationship of respect. A relationship of equality. There won't be a relationship of supremacy. We won't allow it. This is the difference between us and them. For us, India is a union of states. Union of ideas. Union of languages. Union of religions. Union of imagination. For us, all languages, all histories, all cultures, all history are equal. For us, one is not greater than the other. For us, whether Assam, Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Punjab, Haryana, they are all one place. Uttar Pradesh is a very big state. Assam is not that big. But equality should be there. This is an idea that cannot be suppressed by the other. This is the idea. And this is the idea behind the guarantee. This is the idea behind the kaha. We are doing well in this current fast pace. Assam and the country have a structural problem, a foundational problem. There are two or three deep problems. The first problem is that the youth are not getting a job. Assam is not the only problem. The second problem is that the machine that gives a job, which we call economy, is closed. This is also the idea behind our five guarantees. That we should start that machine. We should put fuel in that machine. That is why our five guarantees are putting money in people's pockets. What is the idea? Why has the economy stopped? Because there is no money in people's pockets. You have already said that we will not implement this. This is a central act. We will not do it. We will not do it. We will implement it. Is it possible? We are going to do it. Anyway, next come to the next. Your guarantee is 5 lakh jobs. Is it feasible? 5-6 lakhs are total employees in Assam. No, look. We have not said that 5 lakh jobs will come from the public sector. We have said that select jobs will come from the public sector and will come from the private sector. What is the problem? The economy is closed. The engine of our job creation is closed. The job will not come. If your economy is closed, where will the job come from? We have made the promise of jobs. The first step is to fill the vacancies. The second step is to start the economy. How will we start the economy? By investing money in people's pockets. The logic is that I have invested money in your pockets. You have bought something. When you have bought something, you will have to make someone. The factory has started. People will get a job in the factory. Today, everything is closed. Today, the entire money is going to Gujarat, to Delhi, to Syndicate. What is Syndicate? I have heard that there is a lot of Syndicate in Barak Ghali. Syndicate is an idea that the people of Assam should not run Assam. Selected people should run Assam. And we are against that idea. There is a lot of problem. Fundament or problem? You have given a very, very touchy issue about the tea garden 365. I want to get it. Without tweaking the plantation labour act, how will this be feasible? We will not destroy the tea industry. We will not destroy the tea industry. We will give 365. And we will support the tea industry. We have to tweak the plantation labour act. Look, please understand one thing. That we understand economics. The BJP does not understand economics. There are two things that you need to know. How can you say that? I can tell you. Tell me what is the GDP level? What is the growth rate today? Now tell me what is the demonetization? Tell me what is the GST? The whole Indian economy is ruined. You have finished our strength. You do not know how to run. You are getting money out of everyone's pockets. How will the economy go? Coming back to the main story. Let me answer, please. In 2004, we had this situation. What was the problem? We needed economic growth. What did we do? We did Manregha. What was Manregha? Manregha was a direct tax injection in the village. All the journalists asked us what the Congress party is doing. They are wasting money. They are ruining the poor. What happened? As soon as we invested money, the rural economy started. Someone bought a toothpaste, someone bought a shoe, someone bought a soap, the engine started there. That engine started the urban economy. The same economist who was telling me, what are you doing? Two years later, he said, this is magic. He said, he is going to study in the future. See, this can be a win-win. Tea leaves. Tea leaves can be a win-win. Because if we give 365 days a week and we don't manage the AAC, the industry will be ruined. We won't let that happen. That guarantee you have master's degree. Of course, we will be up. Because the industry is very much worried about it. Please understand. Everybody wants to pay 365 days a week. Please understand how compound interest works. Yes. Compound interest works over time. Compound interest works when money makes money. Right now, money is not making money. The whole system is jammed. It is trapped. And you are fighting in that. You are spreading hatred in that. It won't start. Two things are needed for the economy. First and foremost, everyone in Assam will have to understand peace. There will be nothing with hatred. Please don't interrupt me. There will be nothing with hatred. First peace will come. Congress will come. After that, dialogue will start. dialogue will start with stakeholders. What do you want? What do you want? We want to do this. Now tell me, how do we do this to balance? What should we do? It won't be unilaterally. By talking to people with love, involving stakeholders, we understand that T-Gardens are fundamental to Assam. It is a balance. It is a balance between owners and workers. We are going to maintain that balance. We made a commitment to workers. We will maintain the balance. And we are not going to destroy the T-Industry. That's not what we want. It's the pride of Assam. And we understand. We understand that both the constraints are kept. It is not a one-sided constraint. If there is a constraint on Labour, then there is a constraint on the owners. And we will manage it. We have that capability. We talked about GST. We said we will do GST. What was the idea of BJP? Mr. Modi said that he will do it at night. With the smoke, instead of the fire, there was a function. We did it on the stage. We didn't do any negotiation. We didn't talk to anyone. We didn't talk to stakeholders. And then we saw what happened. We did not stop. We didn't ask anyone. We didn't ask the Cabinet. We didn't ask the Finance Minister. We didn't ask the idea. We didn't ask the idea. We have experience. We have understanding. We have brought Assam together. We have made Assam work. So you would like to give an assurance to the industry both the Labour as well as the industry. But how can we ever imagine that the tea industry will work without a balance? It cannot. We know that. And we are certainly not trying to destroy the tea industry. We are trying to create a positive cycle. We are trying to create a win-win. And we are good at it. We are very good at it. Please go to Chhattisgarh. We are good at doing it. Because we talk. We talk. We listen. We made manifesto. We didn't make it in the Cabinet. We made it by asking lakhs of people. These five guarantees are given by the people of Assam. We didn't close the notes of Rs. 500,000. No. We went. We asked what we had to do. We knew that we had to invest money in the economy. We knew that we had to give the model of injection cash. Now we had to understand how we had to give it. We said that we had to give it in the clear tea gardens. A word you have told me, Nafrat. In this fast phase, no one knows who will win. Neither you nor me. But we all know. Those who are at least walking in the field. Fast phase has completely rejected hatred. Whatever provocation we had on a particular person, on a religion, and that he hasn't flatly rejected. We had a very good, very good, very good provocation. I am saying it again and again. I will tell you again. Assam is the state of balancing. What you can do in UP, without balancing, you have to do it like this. You can't do it in Assam. And if you have done it, it will be a fire. So Assam, the way to run Assam is, first of all, meet everyone. Meet everyone. Think of everyone's complexity. And then, tell the stakeholders, we are taking this path out. Do you think this is right? No, it's not right. Okay, tell me. How do we treat it? Okay, treat it like this. Yes, okay. Do you think it's right? Yes, it's okay. If you haven't done this process in Assam, you can't do it in Assam. The complexity of the water, the language, the region, means a total genius state. It's a mini-India. Mini-India. One of the most sensitive and emotional things is class 6. I have seen that in your electioneering, manifesto, you didn't see the approach so proactive in class 6. As much as you said in your ears, but not in class 6. There's nothing wrong with class 6. Why? Why are you a little bit hesitant to talk about class 6? We're not hesitant to talk about it. We're not hesitant to talk about it. But we are fighting a campaign and we are fighting the central issues. For us, the central issue in Assam today, number one issue, is how to get the economy started. The central issue is how to get jobs done. The central issue is how to take everyone together. We are fighting elections. We are pushing the central issues because we believe in those central issues. And so that's our idea. We are very clear that without solving the job problem, without solving the employment problem, we're not going anywhere. And we know that the job problem, the employment problem is pinching. People are in pain. We want to resolve it. So that is why we focus on what we think is the central issue. We love to criticize the BJP for giving the caste. Today, it's Rs.3. Now, it's Rs.3,000. Your manifesto is Rs.2,000. So why is this transpiring the caste? We are... We are... So what's the difference between the BJP and you? This is up to you. This particular issue. They don't do it. They're transpiring the caste. They said it's Rs.3,000. They said it's Rs.3,500. They didn't do it. We said we'll forgive the caste in Rs.4,000. They didn't tell us. The BJP is promising Rs.3,000. You're promising Rs.2,000. It's the same thing. You're free to deal with the problem. It's not that. You're free to deal with the problem. Give me your pen. Give me a second pen. Look. This is a pen. I told you, take it. I gave it to you. This is one way. Take it. Take the pen. You don't see the difference. I mean, there's a total difference. We're making a commitment. You see, 365 is going to happen. The question doesn't arise. Good. Meaning this pen... My question was different. You're giving someone a fish every day. No. And you teach it to fish. No, no, no. Give it to me. Look. I'm always for the fishing. They'll do it themselves. We wanted it. The press said it. So, why are you giving the money for 2000? Listen. Understand the logic. What logic is this? There are two fundamental problems in the economy of Hindustan. The first one is that it's frozen. If we didn't consume the fire, the economy would never start. We are believing that. BJP is believing that they can start the economy from the supply side. We don't believe it. From the consumption side. We are saying, put the money and start the consumption. When the consumption starts, the supply side will start. They are saying, put the money in the supply side. The consumption has started. We are saying, put the money in the supply side. If people don't have money on the consumption side, then how will the economy start? So, the fundamental difference. Number one. Number two, what has happened in India? Inequality has increased a lot. The selected people have lakhs of crores of rupees. And lakhs of people don't have anything. To resolve this inequality, we have a concept which we proposed in the Lok Sabha election. Direct cash income support. That is a concept behind our mind. That we need to attack this inequality. There is going to be a big problem with this inequality. That's why we are putting cash in it. Start an economy from two different logics. And then raise the question of income inequality. The question is that post-election. Even the Congress has tried. It couldn't bring the regional bloc in Mahajot. Will you be open to the regional bloc for the post-election? Look, our goal is to defeat the ideology of BJP-RSS. Whatever the formation, non-violently, without violence, with brotherhood, with unity, with our basic ideology, we will fight with it. In this election, your rival party, BJP, has two strong faces as the Chief Minister of Canada, Sunwal and Mr. Hemant Abhishekarma. Both are wearing the different things. They are not strong faces. Is it? They've got very huge problems. Anyway, that's their internal problem. No, no, no. It's an external problem. I would not consider them as assets. I would consider them as liabilities for the BJP. For the BJP? Now, assuming that you got the party to get this much of votes, this much of seats to form a government, you have totally a vague, hazy picture about your leaders. Hidden assets inside our party. That will be made visible to you once the election is over. They have liabilities. They have two liabilities. We have hidden assets, many, many people. And our MLAs will decide which one of those hidden assets will run. Anyhow, my last question is that, what is your expectation of the phase two? I feel, I feel that the central problem in Assam is that the BJP cannot address it. The central problem is employment, the central problem is the economy. I have talked about the income difference, the income differential. And the hatred that you have talked about, I feel that Assam will reject the BJP. Assam's culture and history will reject it. Thank you very much, Mr Gandhi, for giving me time on a holiday. Thank you. So there is a... You can't even shake. Thank you very much. Thank you. Nice talking to you. Thank you, nice talking to you.