 Hi, this is MXUX. This is a video from a guy that's running a channel called Fax for Spax. I'll put the link in the description of the video. You know, this is a really great channel and he covers EVs and he covers Spax and he's got some really good insights. I recommend the channel. But anyway, I will put a link to the channel in the description. He went to this show which was in Long Beach, which is the expo and I did not know about this show. But anyway, everyone was there hilly on work horse. This is all about the alternative energy space and transportation. This is the Lordstown Exhibition which is, they got one little screen over here showing the website basically. And this is a beta. And this was posted in August, but I think this is from May, circa May 2021. So this, I believe the production vehicle isn't going to be quite like this. I think this is a pre-production vehicle, certainly most likely a beta, I think. I'm going to go alpha, beta and P production vehicle. But anyway, it may even be an alpha. But anyway, I just wanted to show the footage. It's, you know, it's rare to get footage of this truck. So let's just go through this and pause at certain sets. So there it is. This is a very low rent display. I mean, if you look at these other places, these other trucks and so forth, the amount of money that was spent on the trade show was, you know, 100 times this. But anyway, I think that reflects in their Spartan finances and so on. And they're, you know, I think they wanted to make a presence. But, you know, they got the SEC after them, DOJ. You know, how are they going to have somebody that, you know, what are they going to say? Somebody's going to get arrested for telling them how many horsepower the truck has. Anyway, let's play this. Okay, I'm going to keep the sound off here. Then you're walking up here. And I think that's a pretty good view of the side of the truck. I like the way the truck sits low to the ground, personally. The Ford and every other EV, the Rivian, they're up really high, high center of gravity versus this low center of gravity. Anyway, let's move forward here. And there's the wheel motor. Now this, I believe this has a cover on it. I'm not sure. I think the cover's been removed for this display. And I think that these might be battery charging cables for the 12 volt battery. And I'd also like to add that these lights here are not the production lights. None of the lights are the production lights that are shown in the commercials or the TV spots that have been recorded and so forth. So keep that in mind. And again, this might, it's certainly a beta. But anyway, I think that's what this is. And I do believe this is supposed to have a cover on it. But let's move forward. And there's the front. Now, you know, when you get a look at that front, this thing is, is pretty, pretty, let's just slow this down a little bit here. The front is pretty big. Look how big the front is. It's as big as the mega-trump, mega-flump, whatever this, whatever the Ford has. And I don't know if this is going to be exposed like this. I think this is a beta. I think this is a fuse box. Maybe I'm not sure. Probably not going to be in the final truck. And there's the hood. And as you can see, that's quite a large front, really big. I think people are underestimating that. And again, I think there should be a cover on that likely or so on. And this is a special color if this is the color that was developed for fleets. It's supposed to be easy to pick clean or it's a unique white evidently. And remember, this is a Spartan truck. This is the fleet model. But now I'm going to pause it right here. This is a kill switch. All right. So this is, this is beta, maybe alpha. Okay, this is, this is not a current model. But you get a look at the seats here. They're comparable to that Ford pro. And let's see where he goes here. And there's the four door and the black and white paint scheme. And you can see that the door panels are, you know, typical very much like the Ford pro. I mean, you know, this is a work truck. Those are work truck panels. Not a luxury interior. Now this is I found very interesting. And again, I don't believe, I don't think this is right at all. If you look at the Lordstown commercials, the actual commercials they've done are to pull off with the Ford. These are not the lights. Anyway, but they obviously were driving, they probably drove this to the show. They got the kill switch on it. Anyway, and again, you see this light, I do not believe that these are the lights. I think they, these are just some cheater lights they put on there so that they could drive this thing on the road. My opinion, maybe I'm wrong. I don't think so. I don't believe those little lights. They're not, they're not like anything we've seen before. And there's the trailer hitch and the back of the truck looks great. And again, these are different than the what I've seen in the production. I don't believe this is going to be the arrangement. And I think these are some temporary lights that were put in place. Now, this is interesting. I just want to let this go through here. I think the truck looks great. I do like the low ride height. I mean, this makes it more practical for putting things in the bed as well. If you're working, the last thing you want is a big, big jacked up truck and, you know, trying to load it up from wheelbills or whatever. Now, I'm going to stop this here. Again, this is the alpha beta. Who knows? But if you look at this, it looks like a bed liner. Okay. This, this could be the bed. I propose an option in this truck for, you know, for the commercial version, not the fleet version of a composite bed that the GM offers. And this has Lordstown printed in it. But this, I believe, is the composite bed. And it looks like this is going to come standard on the fleet truck. This is a great bed that it saves about, I don't know, 200 pounds of weight for the truck versus a steel bed. And it won't rust and it won't ding and it won't bend, you know, like the aluminum Ford bed. So this is great. I did not know. Now I'm assuming. I mean, if you look here, and again, this is unfinished. This is a beta. I think everybody's going to probably criticize this, but you have to realize this is certainly not a finished truck here. And again, you can see that that's a, that's a, that's the bed liner or the bed. It's not a bed liner. It's the bed actually. And then this is the interior and someone was talking about no seat room, no leg room for the passengers. In fact, well, we don't know how far back these front seats are or what the setup is on that. But this is very much like the Ford Pro. It's very much the same layout with the center console and the fence and all that stuff, you know. And again, there's the door panel. I don't think the door panel looks bad personally. There's pockets in there for storing stuff and easy to keep clean. Now here's the interior. Now, again, this is a kill switch. All right. There's a wire coming off of the back of this running under the dash, which, you know, this is definitely a beta. Okay. So this is not a finished truck, but it gives you a good idea of what the interior or some comments that, that this looks like it's just stuck on the dash. I love this. And I said in another video, if you stack these screens one on top the other, this is more square inches than the Ford has in with its main 12 inch screen. I bet that's, you know, a quarter or a third larger. So there's actually more room there. And again, here's a kill switch. We're going to move forward. I like how this, I don't know if this is going to stay, but this shows an open space on the floorboard under the dash with this console ending here. That would be great. That would provide so much leg room. I think that's fantastic. I don't know if that's going to follow through. A lot of times they make these bigger, but if that's open, wow, that's great. Anyway, we're moving in here. And again, you see the kill switch there. And there's a good look at the dash. And here's what I'm talking about. I think that's a wire coming down. It's hard to tell not to, I think this was shot with the phone. This is your gear selector here. Okay. I think that's probably going to stay in some form. And I understand that these, this type of gear selector automatically puts the truck in park if the driver gets out. Anyway, and let's see here. There's a good look at that dash panel. I don't know, maybe that's not a cord. Maybe that's just a crease in the console. Hard to say. Anyway, you get through here and there's a good look at the dash. I think that's a great, you know, people are commenting, oh, it looks like I think it's fantastic. I think it's a great, great dash. I really like it. I think you got a good, you don't have a big, like the Ford has that clunky, you know, vestigial hump there with the fake chrome around it. You know, this is, this is what it should be in my opinion. Anyway, and there's that gear selector again. And there's the individual climate controls, I believe. And this is your display panel for your driver. And then this is the touch screen. And I don't know what they got up on there right now. Maybe somebody can mention that in the comments. And if we, now again, there's that kill switch QR code there for more information on the truck. Love how that console ends and there's so much leg room. Now I want to stop right there. If you look right here, this looks like composite to me. This looks like the same stuff the truck beds made out of. I could be wrong. But you know, the, the lightweight nature of this truck, you know, you could assume that they were using a lot of this composite in it. I know that the workhorse van had a ton of composites. It's all composite basically of some type or another. And Burns was involved, you know, with all of this. And I'm sure he's got a ton of composite in here to keep the weight down. And again, this kill switches, this tells you this is an alpha or maybe a beta, but probably an alpha. You know, this is just a rough approximation, I think. Anyway, there's a good view in the cab. I think it's a spacious cab. I really like it. And I love this opening down here in front of the thing. And I think the dash looks great. And, and fax for specs, I want to give this guy credit. I mean, this guy, he's, he's done a lot of great videos. He's, you should check him out fax for specs. And again, he goes over, if you're a Hylian fan, I do not follow Hylian. He goes over, Nicola Hylian. There's a lot of really good footage here, if you're curious to see and workhorse as well. So anyway, there's there, there's the display again, some different displays in the endurance. I think that's a great dash. I think, you know, there we go. And, you know, Steve Burns was a software guy. And I'm sure, you know, he worked on the telemetrics and the whole control system. He was involved in everything. So I'm sure it's, there's something there. But anyway, that's a basic look at the truck. And like I say, I think this is a alpha or a beta. And let me just see if I can go to this guy's channel and show you some of this stuff on here. Just to show you, this is the channel fax for specs. And he's got everything down here. He's got the, the bus companies, he's got Oshkosh, but I mean Nicola, Bollinger. So anyway, a very interesting cat, good channel. Anyway, I thought that was some interesting footage. Okay, this is MXUX. I just wanted to show this because I know people are going to be squawking about those tail lights. This I believe is a tail light configuration for at least one model of the endurance. So that beta or alpha does not show these tail lights or side marker lights. I just wanted to put this up to let you know that those, I'm sure we're stuck on there. So they make that thing street legal from Orange County to Long Beach. It's not a long drive. I'm sure they drove that truck there. Anyway, I just wanted to show you this is a much nicer treatment, maybe an option, but I do believe that this is intended to be the final look of the truck. All right, all right. This is MXUX. I'm going to try to start both of these videos side by side so that you can compare the two trucks. I have the Ford F-150 Pro fleet truck on the left. And this is an earlier, the endurance is much more polished now and better looking now, I think. But this is an early, this is the best video I have comparing the two trucks. And I'm just going to pause that right there and try and move this ahead a little bit. Now he's just going over the outside of the truck and indicating the differences between the, this is a big difference here. These are much smaller tires than the endurance. The endurance has bigger wheels and bigger tires. And these are 20 and these are 18. And I think you can really see the difference there. They need this for rolling resistance, I believe, whereas the endurance knows such need. All right, let me just try to synchronize these a little. It gives you a good looking feel for that. Now pause this a minute. Let's see if we can move this forward a little bit. Again, that was some, again here are the tires and he makes a point of talking about the tires. I think the tires are too small and too narrow. I made that point earlier. This is the charge time, so we've gone over that. And this is where he's talking about the independent rear suspension. There's the arms and there's the axle and there's the motor, which the endurance, of course, has a solid axle. And we're at the interior and the endurance. Let's just pause that right there. Now they got the flag there, which was on the endurance Baja 250. Let's try and move ahead a little bit here. All right, here he is coming in the interior. So you can compare these two interiors. I think, let's pause that right there. You got the center, you got the center. This is a selector knob. They got the drop down thing. It's a little more finish, perhaps. Steering wheel, steering wheel. Now this is the center screen real estate on this F-150. And then they've got a small, phony little fake dial gauge in this giant bezel here. The endurance puts all this real estate in one long screen. If they stacked all these screens together, it would be the same size as this screen. Maybe bigger, I'm thinking, actually. But instead of having one giant block, it's split into four or five different screens. I like to design better. As well, I like the more digital nature of the display of the endurance speedometer and so forth. But here's the climate controls. This is something for a clipboard, I think. Cup holders. Very similar. Let's just play the forward here. And the vinyl seats are comparable. As I said, we have a different dash layout. And these are comparable. And comparable center console. There's no workspace on that either. And let's just see if we can move ahead here. Now he's going to get in this here. Now, again, this screen is comparable. I think if we stacked all these on it would be probably bigger than that. And this is the Lord's Town Ford comparison here. And again, you're seeing the same kind of center console array. And I just want to go over this. I hate this kind of cluster where they have this big plastic bezel and this cheap font. I don't know why they have the worst font in the world for these things. And you can see how much nicer the endurance is here as far as that control panel goes. I would much rather look at this than this. I don't know why they do this with the horrible fonts. And this is so much sleeker and better without that large, that big giant bezel taking up all the visual space in the room. Okay? So let's let the endurance play here. So you can compare them side by side. Very comparable in every respect. Again, bigger wheels, bigger tires, bigger motors, more horsepower. This is the Deluxe F-150. And there you can see the interior of the and again with that phony dash bezel comparing it to the endurance, which is much sleeker and better, I think. And again, the dual climate controls, which I believe the endurance has as well. And the same kind of doors, very similar layout. The screen is the main difference, I think. And there's walking into the endurance. And so you can compare those and you can compare the back seats. They're very, very similar, very much the same vehicle that we're looking underneath the lords down here. And this is this same contraption is in the endurance. There's your back seat there in the endurance. They got cloth inserts. Now I'm going to pause this. That should give you an idea of that. And I'm going to stop recording right now and I'm going to go into the next section. Okay, this is MXUX. I'm going to try to go through this. The difference between the F-150 endurance moving target at Ford. Ford is hiding a lot of information on the truck, the exact battery size and the weight specifically. But you can see we got a big advantage for Ford here with the cost. It's $15,000 cheaper. So advantage, Ford. They get 230. I'm thinking 225 on this battery, 226. And I'm thinking the endurance is 250 and maybe another 10%, another 25, 275. I think the endurance is going to win on this. This is, you know, let's say 260. Okay, with a smaller kilowatt battery, it's going to charge faster. The total cost of ownership over the life of the truck, which a fleet guy is going to pay attention to, is going to show that this is going to save them a ton of money and it's going to be cheaper to charge and it's going to have more range. And I think this is the main reason they are going to take, well, one of the main reasons they're going to choose the Lordstown Motors. They both have the same charge time at 220 amp. They both have the same towing now. This is another reason the fleet managers are going to choose the Lordstown Endurance. Solid truck axle. They got SUV extension, suspension in the Ford. No way. They're going to want that. This is for towing. Okay, so moving on. Let's take this down to the next. Now, here's another thing that, oh shoot, that's not what I want. Sorry, guys. I'm just going to do it without it then. The wheel size for the Ford is 18 inch. You got to, these are small, thin tires for rolling resistance. That isn't going to be able to take any bumps, the 18 inch tire. They're going to change. They're going to have all kind of tire wear problems on this car. They're too narrow. They're too small. I think this is another plus for Lordstown Motors. Okay, so you got the solid truck axle. You got the charge time. You got the wheel size. Okay, now let's go to motors. Two. They got 426 horsepower in the two motor in the fleet model of the Ford. Lordstown 600. This is another plus. So cheaper, better, bigger tires, more horsepower. Okay. Now, this is where we're having a problem. The truck that, the Ford, the truck that Biden drove is 6,400 tons. That's three tons, 400 pounds. Okay, it's a ton heavier than the endurance. Now with the other, this is something I was trying to figure out. It's very hard to figure out knowing what their extra range battery is at 192 kilowatts. Is it 150 kilowatts? Whatever. We don't know. And we don't know the weight. But again, the endurance is going to be lighter. I don't think it matters what batteries in the Ford. The endurance is still going to be a lighter truck. Okay. That's another plus. Okay. So the LMC is 15k more expensive. Negative. 30 miles, 30 miles more range on a battery that is four kilowatts smaller, lower charging costs, lower total cost of ownership, more efficient truck. This is what's going to win them all the fleet sales. LMC has 174 more horsepower than the Ford standard battery. Two inch bigger wheels and tires and it weighs less. Four motors for the LMC. Ford has two. This is another plus for the fleet owner. Hundreds less moving drive taint repair parts. Ford's got all those CV joints and U joints. And the rear end on that is a mechanical differential with electronic control hooked to an electric motor and independent suspension with all the connecting CV joints and you know, LMC has none of that. And this is another one that's going to win over the fleet guys because they know solid rear axle. Ford has SUV suspension. So the 224 to F-150 lightning actually has the battery alone is 1800 pounds and I believe that's but we don't know if that's the long range or the short range. I believe this is the long range. So the battery basically weighs a ton 200 pounds short of a ton. Okay. And the lightning again I'm guessing with the big battery but they don't really designate this. We don't really know. It weighs the electric F-150 weighs 6500 pounds 35% more than the gas powered model. So it weighs even more than the ice 35% more than the ice F-150 1800 pound battery. So I mean weight efficiency sturdiness the drive train. I mean the endurance has a lot of pluses. Okay. And I just want to talk a little bit about increased weight here. The increased weight and capacity of electric wheels have several different impacts on the working of the vehicle. All right deterioration and acceleration, inertia, rolling resistance, increase in load on the assemblies and their lifespan decreases. So this is this is all those connecting drive rods and CV joints and so forth increased load lifespan decreases. Okay. Decreasing the amount of load that can be transported. That's why they have these scales in the Ford because they're going to they're going to track how much they load these trucks up and if you overload them and blow up the rear suspension they're going to look up the computer chart and they're going to say oh well you overloaded that. So this is the warranties voided. I guarantee you. And the change in braking parameters and again they're not letting anybody drive this lightning because it's a cement truck probably can't even stop. You know you probably got to stand on the brakes. The trucks will be so heavy as an unfortunate side. It will trucks are so heavy. It will wear down roads, get in the air pollution and harm whoever is unfortunate enough to get in the way. You know that's another thing. It's going to be a tank. So anyway really the only the only disadvantage the Ford has the endurance has in my opinion is it's 15k more expensive right now but it's also going to be available. This f-150 lightning this is a prototype this is in a ppv that thing you saw with that guy was shown it's not ready. So when is the Ford going to be available I don't know next year the year after who knows right the endurance is going to be available at the end of this year limited and certainly next year. Now as far as the 15k these fleet guys are going to have they're going to have spreadsheets and they're going to have this all worked out and they're going to be able to look at the range and and the tire wear and the repair estimates and the man hours needed for repairs and and the total cost of ownership over the life of the vehicle and I think they're going to be able to justify this 15k more expensive plus they're going to get you know whatever 7500 off right and plus state thing as state incentives as well so it's going to take this price down perhaps to 40k so I think it's a no-brainer for the fleet guys especially since the lightning I mean you can't even put your hand your fingers on on what's going on with that thing now the the consumers what have they said they want the bigger battery in the pro model and Ford has already said they're not going to ship it with that they want to be able to power their home with the pro model can't do it without the bigger battery the price they they like but even saving 10k with the with the incentives they would put the 10k back into the truck for the bigger battery and they like the the interior and the vinyl seats so what they're talking about is mainly on the Ford the consumers want the bigger battery and the bigger battery is going to make that pro model weigh 6500 pounds okay 35 percent more than a gas powered model okay that's a heavy truck if they can't put an 80-gamp circuit in the garage to charge it at home you know 80 amp is a big circuit if they don't have the power an electrician has to tell you that but it's going to take them 13 hours to charge that truck 13 hours okay so maybe not overnight so they may they may not want to get what they're wishing for anyway that's my take on it again I think I think the LMC is is on track to get these capture a large part of these fleet sales and who knows maybe they can come out with a cheaper consumer model who knows two motor two motor model anyway that's mxux I hope you like the video thanks a lot all right guys I hope you like the video some new information here words time just put out a big glob of new professional promotionals on the web you can check them out on youtube you'll see them there everywhere um thanks for watching guys I need a like and a subscribe from you also enjoy the comments I read everyone pass it on make a comment and smash that subscribe button will you so we can get the word out on what's time thanks for watching