 So let's go ahead and call a meeting to order. Everybody okay with that? It is now 6.04. And do we need to do roll call since we have everybody here? We've got Cindy, Noah, Aaron, Holly, Peter, Eileen, Angela, Randy, who's on the beach where I want to be. Susan, Pamela, Marcia, everybody okay? Angela, will you determine if we are at quorum? I think we are now. We are. Excellent. Yes. Thank you. Good. All right. From my understanding, do we have, or I shouldn't say this, my understanding is we do not have public invited to be heard. Is that the case? Yes. We have a public invited the public and they decided not to be heard. So we're good to move on. All right. Additions corrections of the August 20th meeting from our minutes. Cindy tiger. I only have one, which is number nine. The motion was made by Laurel. It's a second for me, but it didn't say who the first was. So that's the only thing. Everything else looked great to me. They're minutes, not an agenda this time. Yes. Good job. And let's clarify. Who do we have taking minutes tonight so we can be cautious? Thank you, Aaron. Thank you. Just we want to be kind and slow down because I tend to go way too fast. And Angela, she's a little speedy too. I know I'm sorry. Sorry. That was point number nine. Yes. Made by Laurel and the motion was written correctly though. Yes. Okay. Thank you. And it was seconded by you, Cindy. Got it. And I moved to accept the minutes from August 20th with the correction. Great. All in favor to prove the minutes from August 20th. All in favor. We need a second. We need a second. Holly seconded a long time ago, but we didn't get that. Aaron, you got that. Yep. Thank you so much. Okay. Now we can do an all in favor. Hi. Hi. Hi. I'll oppose. Excellent. Minutes have been passed. So now we are at the point where let's talk about some. Great projects that we've got going. Public. Additions to the agenda though. First. Oh, great. Sorry. No problem. I always get that part because I'm like, We don't need any additions. Marsha, do we need to add. Oh no, I guess that would be under new business. I don't think there's an, I don't have any additions. Any additions to that. Miss Marsha. Do you? Yes. I don't have any new business. Is that, was that the question? No, any additions and you could also include that in new business. If you wanted to. Okay. No. Okay. Thank you. Great. All right. So then let's go ahead and move on to. Our public art projects. Angela. So Eileen very generously went around today to the locations and has put the labels on. We are still waiting for Annette Coleman to finish her piece and have it installed. Her date was the middle of this month and I think that she's on target which is good. Honestly I have not started to take photos or start on the postcard. So if anyone is agreeable and is savvy to take lovely photos of pieces and to help me with the graphic design or even just to get the photos done I would be very appreciative. And I can help with the graphic design. That would be amazing. I have the template from last year. Cindy what program do you work in typically for graphic design? You can just send me the photos and I can do it and send me the template. I can work it out. Okay. And you can just call me and let me know where you want me to go and I'll take pictures. Great. I will then work with you. Okay yep I'll send you a map and template and we'll work on that. Thank you. I just it's one of those things I just haven't been able to get to. But really once the Coleman piece is installed it would be nice to get that. Which piece is that? Which piece is that? It's for art on the move. It's so it's for the pieces that are all around town. Yes I understand about which is the piece that we're waiting for. Oh the Annette Coleman is the piece that we had basically it's commissioned so we approved it prior to its fabrication. The stained glass piece? Yes the stained glass kind of it's called whirling dervish transcendent. Yeah it's really lovely so yeah I haven't heard exactly when we're gonna install that but it'll be moments away. So if we get the graphic design done so we can just pop in the photo that would be amazing. Where is that one going to go? I think that it's gonna go in St. Stephens unless we can get the gestures owner agreeable to put it on the plinth that's in his easement. So Scott Scott and I are really good friends you should even me outside of this and I will talk to him. Okay so yeah that's pretty much a done deal. I can guarantee you he will help us okay. He has to sign an easement though there's a little bit of paperwork before that can happen. We'll talk offline. Okay sounds good so we'll talk to for Aaron I will talk to Cindy and Pamela regarding getting the graphic design done for the card and I will correct you Amy. About Scott I mean Scott and Mary Lou yeah. Scott is like the maintenance guy and Mary Lou runs the show. Okay Angela yes once I get the pictures it should literally take me less than an hour especially if I have a template. Be still in my heart. Okay sounds good. Hey do you have a sheet that says the location of all of the art in the moves? I do. I don't think I have it can I get a copy just I'd love to see them. Yep. Me too please. I'll just share with the group. Yeah and just send it to everybody that'd be awesome. Okay awesome. All right and and thank you Eileen for getting those labels up that's awesome. And shock art 2020 two of the boxes are finished so as you are driving north on Martin about to go through the roundabout off of Ken Pratt on the north side to go to Taco Bell to get your tacos or continue on. You will see actually a really really lovely piece by Stevie Worst Lawrence. It's the kind of Van Gogh starry night looking Rocky Mountain Sunset so it's a location so good job shock art commission and task force because you guys looked at those and I had kind of placed them and then you rearrange them a little bit and that was a really smart move that was a really good location for that piece and then the other one is Patrick Pair's work called Long Long Live Longmont and that is Whole Foods parking lot just south of Sleep Number. Peter were you able to go and take a peek at that one? Yes. I sent you pictures. Did you not get them? I just haven't gotten there yet. Did it look good? Okay I drove past both of those today. The one at in the mall by Sleep Number looks even better than it did in the box. I thought it had been changed from the prototype but I went back and looked and it looks even better. It looks fantastic. Little scenes from Longmont on every side and you can tell where they're from. It was excellent. Awesome. Angela I do have I went by and saw the one at Whole Foods also and I had one concern and and maybe I'm like oh my gosh you stupid art person that's part of art or something. But I do have a question about it and that was on the panel that faces the south. I think it's an illustration of people along the river and there are several men in it and one of the men and I don't know if he was like making a definition of his chest but it's like a cross on him. I don't and the other men don't have it on so I just didn't know what to do. Hey Susan would you send that to Angela and I? Can you open that up more? No I don't think it's out. I'm showing it on Mike. Yes that's him. You got it. Yep. Peter got it. That's his breast and chest hair. Okay okay I said could be a stupid question but oh aren't we all now so aware of every little minute thing. We are and what if a woman were to do that might be a question. So I was just you know it wasn't like right wrong or anything it was just a comment. I would like to know how the Commission feels about it. I think it's fine. I do too. I'm gonna blow it up here for us all to look at just so we can all be sure just give me some and Peter you're awesome for sending those photos. It's really awesome thank you Peter. So I would just like you I would like to pull a note and you know this is where Amy's gonna go and I will be very professional about it but if it were a woman would you be okay with it? I guess I don't know what it looks like. I'm totally fine with it. I just wanted to it just I jumped out at me so thank you for sharing that's a really great point. With you know you know when my kids can't find something with my husband can never find anything I always say you didn't use your mommy eyes so I was totally just using my mommy art eyes. I'm fine with it but I just want to make sure the entire commission is. Everybody see that? Yeah it's great that's great. To me it just looks like an artifacting of the way this person does their art and I have no problems with it. Thanks Noah that's great great stuff. I think you know that there's always the way to assess and so if the reporter Harold came to you tomorrow of course the first thing you do is say you know what I need to speak to my administrator and I'm happy to give you a quote but then after that and you have to think about what you're going to say like as long as we all feel you know cohesively that there's there's justification and understanding for this aesthetic and and and what is presented here that it's good to go so it sounds to me like everybody is on the same page does that sound right? You know it's funny sidebar is just that I would be more offended by the woman and her placement of her clothing that I would have the man which is so sexist of me so I appreciate you bringing that up very very good I would have missed that. I'm very offended by these stickers that are obscuring the view of the motion. Yeah mostly those mostly those. He's working on a six pack and he's only got two so far. Susan do you want to make an emotion or are we all okay with this? I'm fine with it. It was just that I went and observed and looked and it was the only thing I noted that you know jumped out at me otherwise and I have and I have no problem with it. I just thought it was relevant at this time. That's a great point. Great point. Thank you so much. I think we do need to look at things like that that makes me really happy that everybody's looking at stuff like that. Any other comments on that because that's a really great point. Thank you Susan. I think this is Union Reservoir. Okay well great then if it and nobody has any comments on the that oh I just lost my shocker email. I have to open everything up again. So what's our next topic? I'm sorry. I have to open everything up again too. Isn't that funny? I don't know why that happened. Oh I just I had something on my screen and then. Okay here we go. So from that we are on to the direct purchase of Ursa Major and I am so excited to let everybody know that today we poured concrete in the case for Ursa Major and the forklift is on its way and we didn't have to move irrigation which was a really big deal. I know you don't worry about those things but pipes and electrical downtown is kind of a funny thing. So it's a little off-center but nobody will notice unless you really know because you're looking at irrigation boxes. So speaking of that installation is scheduled for two so my forklift the forklift comes Monday and then Tuesday morning we're going to have the artwork arrive probably between 9 and 9 30 so if anyone is excited about not only coming to be present for that installation but also used bookstore is right there and the owner is a little concerned because on Tuesdays between 9 and 10 is when they have their compromised customer access time and so sometimes those people want to pull into the alley get really close to the door and things like that and we're gonna be super safe of course with cones and people but the more hands on with that kind of thing the better just to make sure that someone's not walking behind a forklift or if we have to we're gonna inevitably end up navigating through that space so again if you can imagine the third alleyway on the east side between 3rd and 4th between Maine and Kimbark and then the breezeway is kind of a tight little turn the chances are what's gonna happen is the trailer will pull up the artwork will be offloaded in the middle of the alleyway and then the forklift to go around the block into the parking lot and come in through Los Arcos pick the piece set it on its side and then move into the breezeway and then we'll open the alley back up for normal business so it's a little bit of a dance the other thing is just getting images of this work I think is really powerful especially on social media and to explain just for people to see this in action because a lot of people just say you know one day it wasn't there and then the next day it is and how does how does that happen so if commissioners are available to come and take photographs of that and also do a little bit of safety and you send us the dates again I know you've done it but send us the dates and when you need us that would be yeah so this just firmed up I'm not joking at four o'clock today on the stars lined so it's Tuesday the 22nd so the upcoming Tuesday at nine o'clock and so I will send it to you and if you're able to make it fantastic if you just want to pop by even for five minutes that's fine or we'll share all of the details with you later so why don't you send an email and then you might get a good response to see who can who can come I know I teach it at times so it's it's hard for a lot of us who are working I know I can do it I can okay I'll be here I'm putting on my calendar okay great great does anybody know I'm excited I'm explain again exactly where it's going I've lost track over the time no that's okay yeah we've only we've only looked for seven the one so um so if you are on Main Street on the east side at 3rd and you are walking north and you get to the breezeway between used books and Jensen guitar okay it's going in this little tiny flower box that used to hold a tree and the tree died and so there's no tree and there's no planter so it's a really it's a really excellent location and highly visible and it's so it's on on Main Street but within the breezeway because I remember I just couldn't remember exactly who buried into that landing I knew it was somewhere around there but I wasn't sure exactly yeah and we're having to load it and everything of course from from the alley because the of the barricade situation right so we're kind of having to take the long the long road but that's okay so it'll be okay so I will send and Laurel thank you Pamela I heard you too yeah you know out and and really anybody who wants to be there to help keep the place safe and also answer any questions that would be great so I will send you that goes great that way all right any other questions about that everybody no if you have a question how long do you think the installation will take um offloading barring any barring any you know trouble should take between 30 and 45 minutes and then the installation itself probably two to three hours once the piece is set it'll we'll look at it and we'll orient it and then they'll have to place where the anchors go so it's called it's called a dry fit so you set the sculpture we put where the anchors are and then they have to pick it up again and then that's when the fun starts so then they have to drill into the concrete set the anchors put the sculpture back on and then we then they just wait around until glue dries I wish I was joking but I'm not and then once that epoxy is set then it's finished but the the actual setting of it probably like an hour hour and a half so we're talking like nine to noon yeah because I don't know if I'll be able to make it at nine but I can there's a window of opportunity there yeah we should we should be done by one we should be off site by two I mean done done I will have to leave it 1130 because I have physical therapy anybody who has conflicts or issues go ahead and email those directly to Angela so she can do right around that yeah but show up if you can and you don't have to be there perfectly on time just within the window is great so I'll send an email thank you Angela so we from what I can see we are on to Tony or target or take us a mural project yeah so you all should have received with your packet the invitation not only to share the community mural project but also to sign up for volunteering and I know a number of you have so thank you very very much really what it's going to be there's two shifts there's a morning shift in an afternoon shift and the dates are tomorrow the 18th Saturday the 19th and then next weekend Friday the 25th and Saturday the 26th and so you'll show as a volunteer you'll show up a little bit early we're gonna set down some drop claws we have sidewalk chalk that we're going to block off where each of the panels are for people to go and to paint and we'll be filling little paint buckets checking people in giving them their sets of paintbrushes because everybody's gonna have their own set of paintbrushes their own aprons and such so we're you know we're keeping it safe by not sharing tools etc and they'll just take those home with them and then in between shifts will sanitize and clean it all up and then we'll do it again in the afternoon so we were a little slow on sign ups and then we threw out an all-staff and it's just gone gangbusters so that's really great if you have people within your own community we're really excited about this or particularly if they celebrate Dia de los Muertos if they're of a certain you know population that that really is a part of their of their annual celebration the reason that art in public places commission this piece is in celebration and commemorating the 20th anniversary of long month in this community so yeah it's been really well received times calls gonna come and do an article and so as commissioners if you're available to volunteer for these shifts that would be really really impactful yeah Noah where I have the time down I forgot where the painting is gonna be happening it's at the museum outside in the courtyard and luckily we have good weather so we're gonna be outside masked and be there as far as you know so two things just really quickly somebody I know did sign up and what she said was that it didn't specifically tell her where to come to the location and that when she signed up all of the information was in Spanish and she's not a Spanish speaker so I'm not sure if there's a if she was supposed to select English and it gave her Spanish or I'm not sure what happened so okay and do you know when she is scheduled to to paint is it tomorrow I think she's scheduled Saturday I think that's okay I just wanted to just give you the heads up for other people if other people are having trouble knowing where to go that okay this is my first time using this sign up I like it a lot and yes you can there's an opt-in for Spanish and English and we really did the invitation and everything in Spanish first and then translated it into English I am not also a Spanish speaker so that's really difficult but I think it was an important way to approach this project so it's been challenging but needless to say I will send it has the option of sending mass emails out to everyone who has signed up and I write that so I'll send that out first thing in the morning thanking people for signing up and then giving specific direction on location nice how many do we have so far you have any idea so there's only 32 maximum spots and I think that the last time I looked when I ran the report was we were at 73% the other option is that if there's families who want to participate because they're on panels we have the ability to spread the panels out and make you know give lots of space and since we can be outside we can do that so 73% of 32 whatever that is so yeah we're nearly there we're really really close plus volunteers and staff will be on site as well so yeah all right well and Tony's really excited he's a yeah oh I should show you the sketch so initially I've got to close my agenda Amy he had sent us the sketch of what he had done in pastel but obviously because it's a community mural you know we have it will change depending upon what the community decides to put in texture and such so you know this is a little funny and bear but I think you'll get the gist of it so can you see that yeah isn't it great so it has the it has the tables and dancing with the dresses mariachi and family but then of course that it has the ancestors so you have an ancestor dancing but then you have a live dancer so everyone's at the table and so he is bringing his sketches that are colored in as and then Tony will be with all of the painters going through and showing them their inspiration bringing the paint in the palette and but there's a lot of room for interpretation so it's it's really exciting and then after the work is done we will the museum staff will install it at 439 main so it's on the north facing external wall of the breezeway between 4th and 5th on the west side and the easement agreement that the owners of the building and I came up with was that it will absolutely 100% be there for a full calendar year as of installation date and then after that if at any point they decide that they want to redevelop the building or any variety of they sell the building or something like that because they're on panels then we can remove them and move them to a new location which actually is really smart because then instead of just a new owner coming in and not liking it and painting over it we we can retain it so it becomes a part of the collection very good I'm sorry I need to go for a minute there's ice cream and outside it's up for me get me some hurry up give me some I think we live close all right great great thank you so much Angela so I'll figure the panels Angela six six by four so the entire length is 20 feet so the it's 20 by six it's significant quite large okay is it is it high are we mounting them up high yes it will be I'm trying to remember the exact height the the bottom should be at about eye average eye height and that building has a has a ledge and so the owner was talking about lighting it's not in our budget but some up lighting or even to tap in and have something overhanging and looking back at it and lit from above would be nice but that's their investment okay so it looks like we can move on to our next item is everybody okay with that Angela I just want to thank you again for your hard work on this I know you are just doing double time on that so thank you so much it's this one really came about actually pretty organically so yeah the Tony Ortega has been really a great project so that's that's good well we're totally grateful to you I am I don't know I'm sure everybody else is too so looks from what I can see that we are moving on to the Unity project Angela yeah so when when Noah gets back from the ice cream man Noah actually signed up for maintenance on the Unity project and I think ran into Mario while Mario Echivario while he's working on the remediation and yeah so I'm not to put you on the spot Noah but do you want to talk to us a little bit about running into Mario yeah it was pretty interesting I was just taking my dog for a walk and you know he had all of this stuff set out he was doing some good work there basically replaced a lot of the broken plaster along the bottom of the piece and a couple of little bits of mosaic and tile work that were not looking so great and then it looks like a fresh coat of paint on the kind of the outside and especially around the bottom but it all looks really good I can't I don't know if there was any work done to the green glass panels on the back and like where the hand prints are but for the most part it looks it definitely much improved than it was you know a couple weeks back cool isn't one of those green panels on the back broken or missing part of it yeah some of them are chipped I would say they have like bits you know about that big missing from them but I don't know what it would take to recreate whatever those are even made of to make new ones to put them in the place no you can't just put it on a portion because it's the whole thing is attempt yeah I noticed that I was by there just the other day and noticed them but other than that it really looks good now yeah I agree I think it looks great Mario is gonna come to us with the second portion of the so if you'll recall the funding for that really was for stabilization so he went in and used epoxy on the inside stabilized the structure itself and then eventually we need to get the city to put a curb a lawn mower curb around it so the lawn mowers don't continue to bash into the bottom of it but then some sort of sealant Mario has played with a number of different materials the mosaic piece that Susan Daly will come back and she will do the backside it really is a trick their bilingual panels that are say what the project was and who was working on it in 1998 and the relief portion of it in some places is just gone so I when Mario told me he was going over there I asked him to put together a second portion of the bid to work on that backside and then to do the sealant to keep the mosaic tie both tiles in place so we'll see what that looks like Mario has older family in Longmont and he's he's a Longmont resident and native so I don't think that we'll see that this fiscal year but certainly to consider for maintenance in 2021 for sure so yeah but that's great thank you Noah there a problem okay sorry I was trying to look in and mute myself um it looks like we're gonna talk about the little alpine project that has been our topic of discussion for two years so I spoke to Pat Milbury and his partner and Sonar and they said that they were gonna send a sketch but in fact brought up something that was even bigger which is that the person who did quite a bit of graffiti has been bothering them on social media and via email and so at the request of both Patrick and working with my division managers we're going to go through the city mediation process to see if we can open some lines of communication and understanding so stay tuned but Patrick is still agreeable to finishing the project this fiscal year because he needs to because his contract says he needs to but yeah that that's it's really unfortunate and it's disturbing and it's disappointing so Patrick just wants to feel safe and wants to have our community really understand what 9th and Alpine is about that's the same person who whitewashed a lot of the inside of the wall or was it different stuff no it's that person who coincidentally participated in its original painting in 2018 I thought the light was from where the graffiti was removed no no that was some weird vandalism so it's really disappointing my conversation with Patrick it was pretty heated and he's pretty disturbed and he and I spoke about the necessity for the Longmont community to fix this and make it right because that is a conduit for the kids that are going to school and that's the reason that that project was done in the first place so we need to get it painted we need to get it finished and whatever we have to do to get moving is what we need to do to get moving so mural committee which I know you've been waiting for a sketch for some time but if this is what it takes to get get going is that's what's gonna happen so miss Angela may ask you a question yeah um so well you don't want me to ask you anything but I would say that um would this fellow be willing to come I know and this is something that back in the old days I think Randy might remember this and would he be willing to come to talk to us in the public invited to be heard Patrick artist or the person um both or is that something that we don't even want to go can I say something guys please okay because I don't have I can't see you I can only see Amy actually I pushed something and I don't know what you're lucky day Laura okay so I just completed the minorities training program through the Friends of the Longmont Museum and so I just did the diversity training and I you know I haven't gone over it here to tell you but it would be great to meet possibly you know come right up here and and see because inviting a minority person there's a lot involved you know a lot of understanding on our part of where they're coming from and stuff that that we went over in this training and it was really great I love to share it with you I can do it tomorrow or whenever you can do it I think you're you bring up a valid point up Laurel and this is something and you all know and I got in trouble but this is like something that has been near and dear to my heart for probably 40 years out of my 49 now it's really it's really important to me and that's why I joined AIP so I won't go into that but I would like to see if there's anybody who would value that I know this is a dangerous call so I don't want to bring it up or bring it up to a boat but I would like you to circulate in your brain a little bit and say hey should we listen to this dude should we like talk about it and if that's not the case then that's cool but I do think it's valuable to like this is why we all started this whole mural campaign because we wanted people to have a voice that didn't have a voice and I live in that area it's probably like two blocks from my house and I watched it get done I participated and I watched to get vandalized so I should just back up just a little bit and make sure to state very clearly that this person is not of a minority no he's not he's not at all no so so so that that conversation I think is I would like to say are we sure he's not of a minority is he just because his skin is not brown are we sure so considering the person has caused thousands of dollars in damage and then threaten the person who made the art in the first place I'm not really interested in hearing what they have to okay I have a question yes my question is does this person vandal does he think that it's the it's Patrick the artist who accused him and took him to court or does he realize it's the city it's not the artist at all so I need to be really clear here in that what I know as fact is the artist has told me and the artist has not presented me nor given me nor the city of Longmont department any of that information other than exactly what I said which is that they the artist and the vandal have had conversations outside of the city and that the artist would really like to have assistance in communication that being said it's really very important here to say that the city is not able to offer restorative justice through its systems at this point in time because it is exactly to your point Cindy the city who was the victim of the crime and this person was tried in county court so so well I just wonder if he's threatening the artist because he is just completely doesn't understand who accused him and so that's why the city opportunity of a mediation and communication is real it will be very very helpful and that's what the city can bring to the to the table to make sure that everyone is of that understanding is there anywhere I can kind of get up to speed on what you guys are talking about I'm kind of getting the gist that this person was sued or where I could find where all that happened we'll have a conversation offline how about okay Aaron you can call us how's that okay sounds good um no it's it's very complicated and I always want everybody's voice be heard but I totally with no on this I'm um and I'm the diversity person but yeah okay so let's move on how's I just add one thing my friend can I just add that if there's any opportunity for us to understand why it happened it might help us to prevent it from happening the future that's why I said should we hear this guy out because I've seen his pictures I've watched the video I know who he is I don't know no but I don't know if he'd be even willing to do it maybe that's something Angela and a few of us need to talk about offline maybe he would hear a voice and he would be like feel more accepted because you know he is probably got followers I think the mediation is a great idea and I'm glad the city's willing to step up and help us out in that yeah great and I think that also recognizing the number of different factors here again that that going through the channels is really important Laurel just to mention I think one of the things that the friends of the museum has done and this is off subject of ninth and alpine but still within going to the strategic plan process and the friends made a commitment to diversity equity inclusion right and they actually made a pledge as a board so maybe we can look to and Laurel maybe you might be agreeable to ask the friends and Jennifer exactly what their pledge is and what they said and as a board making a commitment might be something that can solidify what Amy is saying and has been saying for some time about our voice within a community I think the strategic plan makes a good is a really good place for that to be well I I'd love to talk with you about and we can do that offline so that I understand what it is what your expectation is so I can I can translate that good something that I thought about and I won't take much of your time but maybe we should form a subcommittee on this the guy's not worth it what the guy's not worth it fine I just don't think it he'll he'll do it I know I know it's it's the mean me I just hope that we don't say that people aren't worth it we don't know that no I'm saying it's not worth your time well I don't think you'll get anything out of it your point Pamela thank you and I know the city has a has a established conduit for this process and that we don't have to create it is real we're really very blessed that way that we have somewhere to go that can be a neutral party so that's great yeah Alex Peter has a question I have a question about this which is if if this guy is threatening the artist and making the artist feel unsafe is there a risk that if we get involved that then we become targets for him as well great question so luckily the mediation process is independent of art in public places it will really be that the city so Patrick as a contractor with the city has this as an option to solve the issue so it's independent of me and and so then whatever decisions that they come up with how to move forward is is is up to them so it actually ends up being a very safe and good solution because it takes care of the root of the problem not anything beyond that well it seems to me the thing is to just leave it like that and not get involved exactly yeah okay one way or the other we got to get that a that underpass painted and so that is my job and I will I'm gonna get it done so meantime there will likely be at some point you know shifts where in the middle of the painting when it's happening that will have commissioners who feel comfortable to come and be there and answer questions to the community as it's being repainted so I expect that this work will happen at the end of October beginning of November at the latest the weather has to be good for the paint to adhere to the primer so there's weather factors as well thanks Angela any other questions or comments I know your heads are spinning as is mine so yeah it's it's a struggle this is difficult conversation so I want to thank you all for being so engaged in talking about this this is something that is near and dear to me and I know most of you as well so thank you so much and on a positive note the work that the mural committee has done in looking into sealants working with the graffiti specialist with the city and feeling confident in the way that we are going to move forward when we commission murals is really very positive it's just that it's taken so long to get this one done and I think that Noah can agree with me on this and I don't want to speak on your behalf but but that we aren't going to move forward with any mural sealants until we see how the product that we are committing to works on this one right and if the product that we're we're committing to works on this one then any mural that we do going forward is going to be protected and we're not going to have this problem anymore feady or anyone decides to go in then we just wash it off and and put it it's really gonna save us a lot of headache and heartache so money and money yeah and money so it's not all I miss Laurel I think you had a question or comment no no I'm agreeing are we going to use the sealant on the Tony or Tega panels a little bit different because that's on wood but yes we will never commission a mural again that isn't sealed because we've learned our son right yeah okay once again I'm gonna give her praises but Angela thank you we need that thank you we were like this was like we wanted to do this so bad and we couldn't because we were like afraid and what you just said was anybody else want to give her a high five it's expensive to do it's expensive to do but you you know this commission committed last last at the end of last year to the dollar figure for to seal it up and it's you know it's not cheap but those dollars are this ceiling so you're in good shape but if you want to talk about maintenance don't get ready so we're on the new moon five Raven Swanson all right here you go so thanks to everyone who has signed up for maintenance sent in pictures to address things I'm gonna share it ready ready ready here comes this oh is the state for dinner of new moon five which is outside of the the museum so as you can see the the surface itself is starting to delaminate I'm not exactly sure the media I think it's some powder coating but what will likely need to happen is the artist I'll contact the artist to see about coming in bringing in a grinder a sander getting rid of some of these excess flakes where moisture is getting in and Angela I don't think we're seeing the same screen are you not seeing it you go back in I can see can you see it I don't see anything so yes that's it you see that yes okay and Eileen is a master of registration and condition so correct me if any of my assessments are wrong but I think that definitely not supposed to look that way yeah that's not supposed to look that way and frankly the the the piece is attached to this footer or a plant that's welded and then this whole thing is attached to rock I don't think it's unstable I think that it's it's adhesion it's connection points are fine but certainly the surface treatment needs address so luckily Revan Swanson as you know is local she's from Denver we have worked with her before in art on the move so I'm just gonna give her a phone call and see if she could bid this one out because as of all the maintenance reports that are starting to come back this one is is I would say aside from Unity which you know we've kind of got that taken care of this one needs addressed so I'd like to ask the Commission maybe to consider some dollar figure that you might consider approving if it comes back at that or less that I can move forward before next month or I can just get the bid and come back to you in October either way but I do think that addressing that this year this this year would be appropriate and we do have funds and in maintenance I think we need to wait for an estimate because it kind of looks like a a welding issue like there the welding wasn't properly treated after it was welded on I know nothing about this topic okay I'm just making this up out of whole cloth but it looks to me since it's all around well that that's and I just I don't know whether you're gonna have to de-weld this and redo it or what but I think we need to wait for a bid or we need to at least wait for the for the artist to say we're gonna have to take this all apart or I think I can fix it where it stands as the difference in cost will be phenomenal astronomical I have a feeling that it's gonna be I think this is powder coating and again I walked around it after I read Andrea's maintenance report because of course it's outside the museum I think though I think the welds are okay I think this is a powder coat which and in this face so up above looks in pretty good shape it's that it's all around the welds that are where water's been pooling yeah and if she if she tried to weld onto the powder coat maybe that would make a difference I don't know I don't know now looking at this it all seems like surface rust I don't believe that it's gonna change the structural integrity of the piece I think you just blasted same blasted or scrub it and then re-paint it should be fine yeah all right so I don't know if you can powder coat the bottom without powder coating the top which would get rid of all the white chalk lines you have to take it from where it is and like put it in in a powder coating booth be better to just paint it or find another way to finish it and there's all sorts of marine paints and automotive paints that are at least in Colorado are replacing powder coat because the sheen and shine or the mat is available so a lot of artists are moving from powder coating for exactly that reason Noah that you have to dismantle something take it put it in the booth powder coat it and then read yeah so okay I will I'll get a bit on this one as soon as possible and luckily again Reven's local so I think we likely won't have to outsource it at all we'll just be able to do it locally we thank you and thank you again for those maintenance reports which I should also say I did inquire with the IT department we're working on a solution Peter from last month of being able to select something and then it either disappear or gray out so everyone's not signed up for the same thing it very well maybe just kind of a manual list that you look at and say I want to sign up for these things these people have already signed up for these works these are what's left and then go in and sign up but I'm working on a solution so more more than that you get all the pictures I sent you I did I did it's excellent and yeah it's working really well on this side of things because I'm able to open up I'm able to export the reports I'm able to filter them by their so that's how I figured out this one to go look at because I filtered it by condition and who put that something was in fair or poor condition to look at those ones first and then start looking through the photos to to assess so yeah it's it's working really well just out of curiosity may I ask has anybody found anything that's really bad this this has been the worst one I've seen yeah that was me too mine are all been good and I haven't never mind I'm not gonna say what I haven't done because Angela will smack my hand all right so I think we can move on is that okay everybody yeah right so it looks like we are now on to the administrators report miss Angela what do you have left so I'm executive committee is going to be meeting October 8th and what we will do at that time is go through the budget for 2021 we stayed flat so that's nice and of course because of the COVID magic we didn't you know we didn't spend funds all the funds in certain line items this year and that's not surprising but our main programs we are on budget and that's that's great not over budget on any line items so executive committee and I'll go through that if there is any project that is near and dear to your heart that you would like to continue to see move forward the Boston Bridge projects will be one of those we still have the drain project kind of in in the wings of that didn't work so much this year but we knocked a lot off off the list for 2019 and 2020 the other thing that I will be sending to you after this meeting is the annual report from 2019 that was submitted to city council and so you can go to that and look at our accomplishments it's actually quite impressive so and that is pretty much everything that I've got okay Angela thanks for doing that I'm very happy because we used to have to do that ourselves okay all right so we are now on to new business social justice project which is Angela shoot that shouldn't have been on there but I think we're working on that right Noah yeah I was hoping to connect with you after the meeting if we can Amy yeah let's do it okay so great I don't have any new business I have business there's a cute dog right there yeah okay so commissioners comments may I have a quick question so I saw that they actually started breaking ground on the multi-use building and I just didn't know if we had heard anything about whether they were gonna ask us to assist them with their parking garage structure remember that whole oh yeah yeah they haven't reached back out to us but I would very much anticipate them asking for us for a match or a third because if you'll recall I think that they had estimated that project in the realm of what ninety thousand hundred thousand and so we you know it's very exciting they have till 2022 is when they anticipate finishing that which is great because that means that whatever kind of project that we could potentially look at could be integrated with the construction which will save on costs for mounting etc I can reach out to Kimberly and see if or a Boulder Housing Authority to see if they have an update but yeah the fact that they're breaking ground is is big huge yeah okay great well I want to say one thing I am very impressed how engaged everybody has been right I mean this is hard times and everybody's like staying engaged so thank you all right let's go any other comments I'm just reading again I know that we have we had so much more much momentum coming into this year and it just felt like we were really scooting and moving and now it feels like we almost came to a complete halt but we're we're moving again we're yeah so we're gonna get there um yeah I have to move in we're moving you kept anybody if you have time to come for the the Tony Ortega mural really even if you just want to sit back and see it happen or or we are also doing time-lapse video but really I think this is going to be super for our community and people are really excited so for them to thank you in person yeah you made this happen you really did so you made this happen Angela I have a question I have a question why am I staring at Peter right now I don't know Angela is there a way can we can our little subcommittee for the gather the people actually meet in person and go and look at the site and see what's involved with that sculpture yeah I mean about that site is of course COVID put the brakes on their momentum too right so I'd like to at least go with the whole group with the all three of us and examine that sculpture and see what's involved sure yeah I mean it's just it's a field right there's nothing there yet but we can get a drawing and go stand out there and look at the where we're talking about well where I this is something maybe we need to do separately from the from the regular meeting but I just feel like we're not moving ahead on that and I want to yeah and maybe we need to get a Steve Randsweiler update because he's still in the bidding process and he's been in the bidding process for are we talking about the gather the people the mobile I'm sorry I'm thinking about sister cities yeah the gap the gathering spot no yes gathering the people and Isaac Walton yes yes okay we can have a group email about that you me and Laurel about getting together for that and Andrea okay and we're you saying that we should go over to Isaac Walton and look at the exit this sculpture as it exists right now yeah yeah think that it's I think that it's important yes that would all of us to go there so that we can ask each other questions about what needs to be done and then we go after that we go to Lucille's yes and even if I'm not able to join you or I can bring my two little my two little minions with me please I have no problem with that I love minions so I just posted something just for fun art and public places all over the country is doing some weird stuff right now so I thought you would appreciate this this is a mural I love it yes great and you know I was joking about even if I won't get into politics at all but um political masks what a collector's item because it's not gonna be that long but I love this one so thank you all for staying dedicated awesome oh and Crush walls is happening if you're in Denver this weekend and you want to see a bunch of mural artwork that's where you go yeah definitely all right okay gather enough people I will show we move to adjourn yet I think Angela and Noah and I will probably keep talking for a couple minutes adjournment so I need it I need a motion okay it is so great to see all of you I love you so much thank you so much thank you thank you alright thank you all okay bye thanks thank you hey Erica can I talk to you for a second before we leave I'm still here I don't know how to get off do we do we need to boot you out boot me give me the boot okay okay hold on is that Laurel talking by the way boom I got her oh okay I was just about to boot her just so powerful you are removed from the meeting oh but I only can remove some people not all people not that's okay you can remove me if you want I'll come out no no so um Erica are we good to stop recording so we can still chat I think so is that alright I mean I I guess if it's just Amy and Noah and us then technically it's not an open meeting okay I can like go and make it different soon no no yeah that's my just need if we kick Pamela out then you don't have enough people for an open meeting and then alright so I'm gonna withdraw her co-host and I'm gonna I can make a zoom meeting right now if it would be easier and