 Is it my board docs up here? Would you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? Please mute your microphone. Pledge of Allegiance to the play of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Why don't we, first of all, if whoever's in the council chambers, if that person could be identified, I know all of you don't have a microphone, but... Hi, Alder, Mary Lendoni. Can I look around the chambers? Could you just introduce who's there? Yeah, so in the council chambers, we have city administrator Todd Wolfe, assistant city administrator Kerry Arons. We have accountant to Lori Cirkey, HR director, Vicki Schneider, deputy finance director, Tara Dewey. Controlling the video is Scott Miliff. And then we have our guest, our auditor, Brian Goodwald from Clifton, Larson, Allen. All right, very good. And then whoever's online or on the call, rather? Alderman, Jim Boren. What? All right, we heard from Jim. Who else is on the line? Alder, Trey Mitchell. Okay, Trey, welcome. Marcus Savalio, Alderman district five. Perfect. Assistant city attorney. Could, who's MH, oh, that's Marty. Okay, very good. All right, thank you so much. And we'll get started here. If I could have a motion to approve the minutes of our August 24th meeting. Second. All right, so I'm gonna call that as Marcus making the motion and Trey seconding. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, stay at aye. Aye. Aye. Good post. Chair votes aye. Very good. We will go on then to 3.1, which is a direct referral submitting the comprehensive annual financial report for the city for the year ending December 31st, 2019. And Brian Grunwald, I assume you are up, or Marty, how are you guys gonna do this? Yes, the presentation that Brian Grunwald will be doing for our annual financial report, you'll find on your screen as a PowerPoint. So my screen will be shared so everyone can be viewing it. Another item that you might have had, and hopefully you're able to kind of toggle between the screens would be the actual annual financial report, which was attached to the board docs. So with that, certainly I know we've got a long agenda and some big things, I'm gonna just turn it over to Brian and we'll go through his presentation. All right, sounds good. This is Brian Grunwald with Clifton-Larsen Allen. Thank you for having me here this evening. And I also do wanna thank Marty and Tara and the rest of your staff for the cooperation assistance that we received throughout the audit process. In terms of the discussion here, I'm just gonna walk through the PowerPoint. Marty alluded to the fact that you also had the link for the annual financial report as we get into the financial information, just understand that we've pulled some of this from that annual financial report to try to lay it out in a graph format to give you a little bit more of a trend. But certainly if anyone has any questions on any of the documents, please feel free to ask. Okay, this first slide here, just wanted to give you a summary of the overall audit results. The first bullet point there is focusing on the independent auditor's opinion. That's on the basic financial statements that is considered to be an unmodified opinion, essentially means that I believe that your financial statements are complete and accurate and in accordance with our professional standards. The second bullet point there, as part of every governmental audit, we continue to focus on the financial reporting and the internal control over that financial reporting. Essentially, we're looking at how things are done. We do not issue an opinion on your internal control, but we do use that in terms of risk assessment, planning, making sure that we understand the organization. In terms of the bullet points presented there, there are three items, those are listed as findings. Now I will say that those are similar to what you saw for 2018, those being the preparation of the annual financial report. That one really focuses on the fact that we as your auditors are the ones who are preparing that document. Certainly we do work with Marty and Tara. We ask them to review that document. Certainly want to make sure that everybody's on the same page with regards to the numbers and the information that is presented there. The second item focuses on adjustments to the city's financial records. As part of the audit process, we do work with Marty and their team to verify the numbers. It is common. We have identified adjustments as a part of that process. I do want to communicate that all adjustments that I'm aware of are included in the annual financial report that you have. And then similarly there, the last item, general ledger reconciliations. Again, as part of the audit process, we've assisted with some of that information. Again, just going through the process of making sure that we're comfortable with the numbers and that we agree with the numbers. In terms of the next item there, just focusing on the report on compliance for federal and state programs. From a compliance standpoint, no issues, no concerns with regards to compliance. Any thoughts or questions on that slide before I move on? I have a question on the internal controls. Yep, okay. Brian, I was wondering. Jim, if you don't mind, I just want to let Brian, Brian, how long is your presentation? It'll probably be five to 10 minutes. Okay, Jim and other alders, if you don't mind, I just soon hold questions until we get through the presentation and then we can take the questions. Is that all right, Jim? That's fine. Great, thanks. Go ahead, Brian. Okay, sounds good. Then I will keep moving along. The next slide here, management communications. There is information and standard guidance that we are required to communicate as part of every audit process. This list of bullet points lists some of those items. It's certainly not an all-inclusive list. It should be items that you have seen in the past that the communication has been fairly consistent. Things like accounting policies, accounting estimates, et cetera. Nothing here that I would consider to be unusual or red flag, just more of a standard communication and wanted you to be aware that those topics were discussed and have been communicated. Then moving on to the next slide. This next one just gives you an overview of the financial condition. And there are additional slides that support these bullet points here, but the first one focuses on the general fund balance. From a fund balance perspective, continue to have strong reserves. You've had a strong year financially. Your reserves did increase. We'll see a slide that highlights or emphasizes that. The second and third bullets focus on long-term debt. I just wanted to give you some perspective on long-term debt, the amount presented in the annual financial report. And this is only your general obligation that is 49 million. There is a footnote disclosure in there. There were some discussion about the statutory debt limit. And then the third bullet point is really focusing on the debt that you have looking at repayment. Obviously that's based on the terms that you agree to at the time you enter into that debt. One of the things financial consultants and rating agencies look for is when they look at financial condition, how much debt do you have? How is that going to be repaid, et cetera? So that's what that's focusing on. The next bullet point focuses on the sewer system, looking at your cash reserves as well as your equity reserves in terms of sewer. Both of those actually increased 2.7 million. So again, a strong year financially for the sewer system. The last, the next bullet point there focuses on working capital for health insurance and workers' compensation. I have another slide that walks you through that. You do have strong reserve balances and working capital in that fund. And then the last bullet point, the Harbor Center Marina. Certainly we've been focused on the deficit that's communicated and presented within the annual financial statements. Just did want to point out that the deficit, the amount of that deficit did decrease from 2018 to 2019. Okay, and then just moving on to some of the detailed slides. This slide presents your general fund fund balance. And I always like to look at your trends. So this just gives you a snapshot of your overall general fund fund balance or your overall reserves for your general fund. Again, looking through the trend, you can see back in 2015, you were at approximately 23.5 million. If you work across fairly consistent through 2017, you did have a planned use of fund balance moving into 2018, bringing you down to right around 20 million. And then from 2018 to 2019, you'll see a slight increase in the overall fund balance. That's the $1.7 million increase in your fund balance reserves for 2019. If you get into the details of the individual category and the table beneath that, a couple that I like to focus on, the unassigned, and we'll talk more about that. There's another slide that focuses on the unassigned. That is the amount that has not been earmarked or set aside for other purposes. It's available for things like working capital and contingency reserves. And I know you do have a policy that addresses that, this is just giving you a snapshot of your balances. And again, you can see as you work across that graph, 17.9 million at the end of 2015, and you can see 17.7 million at the end of 2019. The assigned and committed, those are really, again, I refer to those as your planning categories, amounts that you've identified to be earmarked for different purposes. There is additional information with regards to the detail of those on pages 72 and 73 in your annual financial report. This has just given you a summarized presentation. And then the last item there, the last line focusing on your non-spendable. Those amounts are non-spendable because they're not available. Really things that have been tied up or committed with things like long-term receivables, you haven't collected the cash for those yet, or things like inventory and prepays, where from an accounting standpoint, those dollars have been set aside for those purposes or invested in those purposes. And if we move on to the next slide, this slide just gives you some perspective and focusing on your general fund again. But in terms of your total fund balance, as well as your unassigned, how much fund balance do you have in dollars in comparison to the amount of expenditures that are flowing through your budget on an annual basis? Certainly when you work across the graphs and fluctuation there, you do see a little bit of a downward trend for both the total and the unassigned. I always like to look at this. The message that I guess I'd like to leave you with is when you look at this and particularly focusing on that blue line, that unassigned, you're ending the year at 48%. I mean, that is a very, very strong number. There's additional information or additional disclosure on page 74 in your financial statement that does get into your policy, which references 25%. So certainly from a fund balance perspective, I mean, you've had strong reserves, you continue to have strong reserves. Certainly, I think that's evident in this slide. Then I also wanted to give you just a snapshot of some of the other funds. And just keep in mind that these are summarized by the fund type, special revenue, capital projects, debt service, et cetera. I'm not gonna get into a lot of detail here. For the most part, the categories are fairly consistent, meaning your fund balance reserves in those different fund types are consistent with the exception of that green category, the debt service. There you can see the spike in 2018, and that's really just due to timing of a debt refinancing transaction that occurred at the end of 2018 that carried forward into 2019. Essentially, you had received debt proceeds and not made the payment to pay down those funds until early January of 2019. So that explains the spike there. Really nothing unusual with regards to your other balances there. And then also wanted to step back from a special revenue fund perspective. Certainly, we've talked about the marina in the past. This slide just gives you some perspective on the marina and that marina deficit. Again, as you work across the slide, it is in a deficit position. You have been coming out of that slowly. If you focused just on 18 to 19, the amount of that deficit did decrease slightly. You still continue to have a fund balance deficit of approximately 2.5 million there. But I know it's something you've been dealing with, certainly nice to see it moving in the positive direction. And then this next slide, wanted to give you a snapshot of your general fund. This is, or excuse me, your general obligation debt. And just keep in mind that this is net of the reserves that you have within the debt service fund balance. Again, we're looking through 2015 through 2018, fairly consistent for the end of 2019. You did have approximately 48.1 million of general obligation debt outstanding net of that fund balance in your debt service fund of 11.5 million, leaving you with a net of 36.6 million in terms of your overall debt. I'd say just keep in mind, I know we're in the September already. I mean, this is as of 1231.19. And then also wanted to give you some perspective on the sewer system and their net position or their equity reserves. Again, as you work through this, there is a slight increase in your equity reserves over time. Again, the highlight here, I think, is the increase from 2018 to 2019, that $2.7 million increase in your overall net equity. And again, it is also an increase in your cash balance. And you've looked at the individual categories, the ones that I really wanna focus on, the last line presented there, that unrestricted component. Again, that's the amount that's available for working capital. You can see you're at 6.8 million at 2015. Again, moving across the table, you can see that just over 7 million at the end of 2019. And certainly the point there is you do need to continue to obviously understand your rate structure, continue to think about how you're going to continue to reinvest in capital. But from 2019's perspective, certainly a strong year financially. And I know I'm going through this pretty quickly. I also wanted to just give you a snapshot of this is just focusing on two of the internal service funds, the green component focusing on your health insurance and the darker category, the darker blue focusing on the workers comp. You can see the fluctuation there. Again, I think my message would be is if you calibrate the line and understand the amounts that you have there, from a reserve perspective, the health insurance or the green category, you're at approximately 4.1. If you relate that to the amount of expenses flowing through that fund, approximately 6.6 million in expenses, certainly a strong relationship in terms of your reserve balances in comparison to the amount of expenditures. And similarly for the workers comp, your expenses flowing through that fund for 2019, approximately 440,000 versus 2.3 million in reserves. And I know I went through that pretty quickly. That's all the financial information that I had prepared. I mean, maybe just to recap, in terms of the findings and the internal control, I know there was a question that's going to come up on that, but those are repeat findings and conditions. Certainly that doesn't mean that there hasn't been any changes or progress on that. We're just, our requirement is to disclose the conditions that exist during that audit year. So technically those conditions do exist. When you step back and think of that slide with the financial overview, really a lot of positive financial information there financially, your fund balance reserves in particular for your general fund are certainly very strong. Okay, that being said, I'll turn it over. Any questions? Go ahead, Jim. Thank you, Madam Chair. Brian, first I have a general question and then I have a couple of specific questions. When you're dealing with your municipal clients, city of Sheboygan and other ones, corporations, LLCs, and this general question dates back to the CLA report that you did for us back in February. And if you don't wanna give any specific advice for Sheboygan, I guess that's fine, maybe you do. But my question is, in your experience with all the different types of governments, corporations, LLCs that you deal with, do you generally recommend to those clients that their employees be fidelity bonded for all employees that handle cash or other types of payments? So I just wanna step back and clarify that. So in terms of my role with CLA, I'm with our state and local government practice, meaning I do spend approximately 90% of my time working with state and local governments, that's county, cities, other types of government. I also do spend about 10% of my time with nonprofit organizations, but that's the limit of my exposure with our client base. I do not work on the private sector side or whatnot. In terms of your question, this is my personal opinion. Certainly I think you do have to be conscious of the fact that you are a public organization. You certainly need to maintain the public's trust. I certainly would, I think your question is very valid. I think you certainly should consider the risks associated with your internal control structure and your internal control environment. And I think bonding is certainly a part of that discussion or consideration. Thank you, Brian. My specific questions on page 54 of the audit, when you're talking about inter-fund transfers that were made, first one for the municipal court was $296,000 and the transfer from the ambulance fund into the general fund was $1,919,670. In information that I got from the fire department today from Deputy Chief Butler, the grand total of the collections, the actual collections for the ambulance service were $1,306,850.58. My question is the 919,670 that was transferred into the general fund, why the difference? Would that be because some of the collections in the 1.3 were not in when the transfer was made? I mean, certainly that could be a factor. Now, when I think of the ambulance fund and there is a separate fund within your financial statements that presents the ambulance, some of what you're talking about is we record accounts receivable, there's a timing process between billing and collecting, so you gotta get the cash in the door. Then you also have consideration of what other expenses do we have that may be recorded in that ambulance fund that get paid before we transfer money back. The amount that you're referring to the 919, I mean, that's simply the net amount that is, that truly is, it's the amount transferred during 2019. Alderperson Bauer. And then on page 17. Alderperson Bauer and this is Marty, if I could also elaborate a bit on that. One of the discussion points that took place during 2019 and early into 2020 was whether we would be transferring everything out of that ambulance fund and into the general fund. Rather, the thought was to keep some funds in there for future ambulance replacement, maintaining some of the fund balance and cash position should we decide to purchase some of these aging ambulances through that fund rather than doing it all through the capital projects. Okay, maybe that's part of the answer to my next question. On page 73, where it gives you the general fund balance that was committed to the following for the municipal court, it was 29,937. For the ambulance service, it was 521,208 dollars. I guess my question is the 521,000 dollars, is that part of what you talked about Marty or is that just seed for the year 2020 until funds start coming in to the ambulance fund? Yeah, you're correct in that we did maintain some, in a sense, seed in there for the potential to purchase some of those. Some of the transfer in the previous year in 2018 was not fully completed either. So there was some adjustment in 19 for transfers over. But the biggest thing was to try to estimate how much do we try to maintain as a reserve balance in there for future purchases? Okay, and one other question on the ambulance service. I know Daryl, I think at least Daryl talked about it and possibly you did last year that there was gonna be at least one more employee salary and benefits going into the ambulance expenses. Was that, I don't believe that was done yet in 19, was it done for 20? And is it gonna be done for 21? It was not done for 19. It has not been done for 20 as of yet. And we have not completed the budget process to the point where we would get to that stage of determining that. And that will be a discussion though that Administrator Wolff and I and Chief Eric Maniano will have. All right, thank you. Those are my questions. Does anyone else have any questions for Brian? Hearing none, we would need a motion to recommend to the council to accept and file the document. Don't move, Warren. Second, Mark. All right, is there any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll in favor state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Brian, thank you very much, appreciate it. Thank you, have a good day. And I will say if any additional questions do come up, certainly you can work through Marty and I'd be more than happy to try to answer those as they come up. So thank you. We'll move on to 3.2, which is a resolution. I'll put out into the barrel of approximately $11,190,000 in taxable general obligation refunding bonds. And who do we have up to that? Is Carol on the line? No. No, Carol, this is Madam Chair, this is Marty. Myself and Administrator Wolfe will take this. Carol did have a different engagement this evening, but she assured me, should any older person have a question that Todd or I could not answer, we could easily get the answer from her. So if you'd like me to start kind of going through this, what I guess I would encourage each of those remote to call up the report on refinancing that was attached to the agenda. This document was the report that Carol put through. Had she been present, this is what she would have utilized to present off of. I'm not going to read through it, but I guess I'm gonna touch on some of the highlights and certainly Administrator Wolfe will add in some additional details. What we are looking to do is in advance refunding as we've mentioned regarding the 10.49 million dollars worth of NANs, those were taken out in June of 2018 to purchase land and make improvements to roads, public utilities, grading, engineering, inspection, landscaping, signage, and capitalized interest out in our tax incremental district, 18, our enterprise campus, the business park. The maturity of these five years would be June of 2023 with a call date of June 1st, 2021. Currently the NANs are having, they have an interest rate of 3.625. What we are looking at right now would be what's called an advanced refunding, which can only be done via a taxable refunding. And there's several components that we probably would have gotten to that point regardless of some of the criteria. The reason we're doing a taxable is because we are greater than 90 days in advance of that June 1st. Anytime you're within 90 days of the advanced, or of the call date, you can do a tax exempt refunding. But because we're beyond that, we have to do a taxable, but the reason we probably would have gotten to be a taxable as well is to allow us to do some capitalized interest. Capitalized interest cannot be done on a project that's complete unless it's a taxable refunding. So we are looking at capitalizing a little bit more interest on this. And the reason for that is the slowness or timeliness of the development in that taxable increment district. I believe many of you have been made aware of some of the revised proformas that Ellers had put together. And Carol Worth was also utilizing that to put her structure together for how we would construct a refunding. With the refunding, with capitalized interest, it would look to be along the lines of borrowing $4.35 million. And the true interest cost on that is around 1.93%. That's based off of some of the current market sales that Carol has had in the last several weeks. Obviously those are all subject to change based on changes within the market. The borrowing would be for 20 years and it would be structured in a framework of what's found on page four. And often what Carol generally tends to do is a level debt restructuring. However, in this instance, we did it a little bit different. Again, referencing the Ellers report that has I guess an average aggressiveness to it on how we believe we will be able to develop and generate some tax increment within that district. I guess at this point, like I said, I don't wanna read through every aspect of the document that was attached. What Carol did do is include not only the structure of this specific debt, but there's also a page in there on page six where it does show all of the debt that's already on including this new revised debt so that you can see what the debt service on our tax incremental district 18 is. And then slide seven or page seven was where the revenue tax increment projections were put into place. Chair. Minister, do you have anything to add? Yes, I do, thank you. As Marty had pointed out, there's a couple of things that I just thought I'd add. First off, I believe that we have a really good schedule here. Marty brought up the fact that going off of Eller's recommendations from what we had recommended, we're looking at the first couple of years being a little bit soft, mainly because of development being where it is today. Also the recalculation of the South Point Enterprise, we're looking at it to allow us to have a little bit of a soft start in development. So that's been taken into consideration with this geo compared to the NAN. I also wanted to point out that Moody's is actually very positive in changing a NAN to an actual geo. So this will be a very positive situation. The other thing I did want to point out is that we won't actually have to go through a Moody's full review because we just had a review less than a year ago. So that we'll still maintain the exact, from my understanding, the exact rating that we had before. And the other point that I did want to point out is obviously with the rates, the way they are, we're again going to save money on interest going from a NAN to a geo. Thank you. Questions for Marty or Todd? Yeah, I've got one question for Marty, Madam Chair. Go ahead. Marty, what Todd just mentioned with our interest payments going down between the two, I know you shared with me earlier this year what we owed in interest for 2020. I don't have it in front of me. It was at five or $600,000. What do you estimate the difference would be in our interest payments by making this change? What would you predict it would be for 21? So on page four of the document is where we've got the estimated interest for just this portion of the, of TID-18's debt. In 2021, it's projected to be at $186,113. Previously, we were paying every six months the $191,000. So it's about half. Thank you. So my question is probably for Todd. I'm glad that Ehlers has a moderately optimistic view. I guess I'm not, I support this. I mean, it financially certainly makes sense, but do you have another Marina on our hands here except on a, maybe a grander scale? Madam Chair, I understand where you're going with that. And I really hope that we don't have the dry dock version. We do have, we do have the development that opportunities are still out there. It's just that because of COVID, things kind of slowed down as we know. We also know that we were being very aggressive because the market was hot when we developed the South Point Enterprise. So with Ehlers, we obviously recalculated that to be more realistic. And then with the changing the NANDs to a GEO, we tried to reflect that and also reflect the payback according to having approximately three years of a soft development cycle. So we're trying to take that into consideration and we do know that we still have some opportunities on the horizon. I hope I answered your question. Yep. Other questions? Another person at Donahue? Yes. One point of clarification I think for Marty. Marty, is this the correct version of the resolution? I know the original amount was the 11.19 million of refunding and it looks like there's a little bit of discrepancy in the documents. I just want to make sure the right thing ends up coming out of committee. Thank you for pointing that out, Assistant Attorney Thomas Cameron. Thomas is correct in that there was an original resolution for the 11.19 million and based on the revised amounts which included that extra year of capitalized interest, you will find a revised resolution or an amended resolution as part of your documents attached to board docs. So when we do get to the time of motion, however, Thomas or City Attorney Chuck Adams would like to advise us on the easiest way to amend that so that the recommendation can include the amended resolution. Well, just so I'm clear, are we talking about the resolution for the sale of 11 million 435,000? That is the amended dollar amount. The original resolution that went through council that was referred was 11.19 and there should be that original resolution as well as the drafted amended resolution from Corals and Brady for the 11.435. All right, so what we're looking for here is a motion to recommend that the council adopt the resolution to issue sale of approximately 11 million 435,000 in taxable general obligation refunding bonds. Is that correct? That's correct as long as we don't have to do any type of verbiage for the amendment. The amendment since you have a different document in front of you, so probably somebody moves in seconds to approve the RO and then it gets a, or not the RO, the resolution and then it gets amended to reflect the new resolution which is in board docs, as I understand it, is that the one that's attached to the IFC, Marty? Yes. Okay, and so then the motion to amend can just simply be to swap out the original resolution for the resolution in the IFC and then go ahead and approve it. I'll make such a motion, Boren. All right. I'll second that. If whoever is taking the minutes understands that. So our amended motion, it is not an amended motion. The motion is... The motion would be first just to simply approve the resolution. It sounds like you got a motion and a second for that. Now somebody should make a motion to amend the resolution to swap out the language of the resolution that was referred to committee with the language of the resolution that is contained in the IFC. All right, so what we need then is an amendment. We need a motion rather to amend the resolution on the floor to reflect the amount of 11,435,000 dollars. Is there such a motion to amend? So moved to amend, Boren. Second, Marcus. All right, so we will vote on the amendment. Are there any questions before we vote? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. So we have on the floor a motion to approve the amended amount. Is there any discussion or questions with respect to the main motion as amended? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. All right, very good. What's a few hundred thousand dollars here and there, huh? So let's go back to our agenda. And we are looking at 3.3, which is submitting for our information, the revised 2021 budget schedule. Who would like to take that, Todd? Thank you, Madam Chair. It's basically just a revised schedule after my two months of tenure in this position. We, Carrie and I and Marty, we reviewed the dates that will be coming to council, just to give everybody an update on the progress that we're making so far. We don't need any action on this or do, yes we do. There's a request that we recommend to the council to receive and file the document. Is there such a motion? So moved, Chair. And would there be a second? Second, Marcus Covellio, district five. All right, any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Very good. All right. 3.4 is a claim from Brian Wunch for damage to his vehicle. Chuck? So the motion here would simply be to file this claim has been denied. It was denied because the claim had to do with road damage and it does not fit under the types of claims that are required to be paid for road damage. So the proper motion would be. Do we have a motion to file? Move to file. Second. All right, any other discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Don't sit around me guys, come on. The fund has just begun. We are now at 3.5, which is a resolution authorizing the city officials to execute a whole harmless agreement with respect to using Wisconsin Bank and trust building as a polling place. Thomas, is that yours? That is not mine, I believe. Chair? Chair? Mary Lynn, this is Todd. Oh, Todd, go ahead. I probably can speak to this. I asked Chuck to actually put this together. And due to the situation and status of the senior center, I took it upon myself to contact Paul Weaver, the owners of the A Street Investments LLC and they were gracious enough to allow us to have the voting in November at their location and the city will use the facility. So this is basically just boilerplate to allow them to allow us to use the facility, but not to hold them harmless, obviously. Any questions or concerns? Could we have a motion then to recommend approval of the whole harmless agreement? Don't move, boring. Second, Marcus. Any further discussion? Very none. All in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Thank you. We're going to move on to 3.6, which is a claim, a notice of claims from American Family Insurance with respect to damages to their insured molly lefine. Chuck? So on hand for you to file, this has been kind of sitting out there while we were waiting for a release, but we did authorize paying this in the amount of $3,845.69 back in May and it was just sitting around waiting for the lawyer to get the release to us. So the proper motion would be to file. And do we have such a motion? So moved. Marcus. Second. All right. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. 3.7 is a notice of claim and injury for damages of Curt Klessig. And check what we've got here. And actually you can take 3.7 and 3.8 together if you'd like. Okay. Happy to do that. So these are the claims that were filed in relation to the police involved shooting at the bar, a Union Avenue tap a while back. There's been a federal lawsuit filed. The claims themselves were under state law and the time has passed for them to make to pursue any potential claims they would have under state law. And so the proper motion on these would be to file. Doesn't impact the ongoing federal litigation which is sort of stalled in federal court. Okay. Got it. So we need a motion to file documents for with respect to both Klessig and 3.7 and Heitzman and 3.8. So moved. All right. And is there a second? Second. All right. Any further discussion? I just have a quick question for Chuck. Chuck, then if this is now a federal lawsuit, then there still could be some exposure to the city depending on the outcome of that lawsuit. Yeah, potentially it's just that the claim itself really was related to the state law claim and there is no longer any liability in the state law claim. All right. Thank you. Perfect. All right. All those in favor state aye. Aye. The opposed chair votes aye. All right. We need a motion to convene in closed sessions pursuant to 1985 sub one sub G of the statute for the purpose of conferring with legal counsel for the governmental body who is rendering moral or written advice concerning the strategy to be adopted by the body with respect to litigation which is likely, it is likely to become involved with to an accurate repairs LLC versus the city of Sheboygan. Do we have such a motion? So moved. Born. All right. Is there a second? Second. All right. We need an individual vote. Alderborn. Aye. Alder Savalio. Aye. Alder Mitchell. Aye. And I will vote aye for the motion passes and we are in session. Madam chair. This is Marty. Before we go into closed session, I'm not sure if city attorney Adams and or if Scott Miloff can assist us with this because this is where we ran into our challenge last time where we could not close our meeting because of how we went into closed session yet still being able to broadcast with the potential of coming back with possible action needed after. So I'm not. You will need to come back into open session. So Scott should not leave. We just need to go off the air. Okay. And come back on the air when the closed session is done. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Because yeah, there we will be back in open session. So I don't see the chambers that we emptied out of those. So we need a motion to assume settlement of the case referenced in resolution in the amount of? 91,627 dollars and 38 cents. Is there such a motion? Don't move, Warren. I get Marcus. All right. Any further discussions? Hearing none, all in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Motion passes. So we are scheduled again for September 28th. Do we have any quorum issues among our members here? All right. Motion to adjourn would be in order. Move to adjourn. Second. All right. All in favor, state aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes aye. We are adjourned. Thank you all. That was a pretty productive meeting. Thanks.