 from Stanford University in Palo Alto, California. It's theCUBE. Covering Women in Data Science Conference 2018. Brought to you by Stanford. Welcome back to theCUBE. Our continuing coverage of Women in Data Science 2018 continues. I'm Lisa Martin, life from Stanford University and very excited to be joined by our co-founder, co-CEO of SiliconANGLE Media and theCUBE, John Ferrier. What an amazing event, a third annual WIZ event, a third time theCUBE has been here. This event, the energy, the moment and the excitement, you can feel it. I really want to interview with you all day, but I wanted to make sure that we had the right women in tech, women in data science. You're an amazing host, I thought it was awesome. What a great powerhouse of women and, you know, it's just such an honor for the CUBE team and SiliconANGLE to be here. We're listed as a global innovative sponsor on there, so it's like the recognition is because they have high integrity. The organizers, Judy, Karen, and Margo, when we first met, when they first started, can you bring theCUBE, of course we will, and because we knew the network effect was big here. They were early on and they took a great approach. They really nailed the positioning of the event. You, Stanford University as a base, established a global community which they have now done. It is so successful. This is the future of events, in my opinion. The way they do it, the way they bring in the content curation here at Stanford, but it's open, it's inclusive. They created a network effect with satellite communities around the world. They've created a VIP network of power women and it's a shortcut to trust. This is the trusted network of women in data science. It's super exciting. I'm so proud to be part of it in a small way. They get all the credit, but just capturing all the data. The interviews are great data. You've done a great job. The conversations were amazing. The hallway conversations were great. It was just fantastic. Yeah, it was fantastic. And thank you for handing the keys to theCUBE to me for this event. The remarkable thing, one of the remarkable things to me about this event is they have, in third year, they're going to reach 100,000 people with this event. There were 177 regional events in the last 24 hours. Hashtag WIDS 2018 in 53 countries. And we were fortunate to have Margo Garrison on a few hours ago and I said, you must be pleasantly shocked at this massive trajectory. But where do you go from here? Sustaining, maintaining, but also reaching out, she said, to even younger audiences in high schools and being able to kind of ignite the bunts and burn it up a little bit higher. What were some of the hallway conversations that you had? Well, I think the big thing was is that, first of all, the panels and the conversation of the content was not about women. It was about data science that happened to be women. So the quality of the conversations, if you close your eyes, you're like, there are some serious pros on here. And they had some side discussions around how to be a woman in tech and data science and how to use your integrity and reputation. But the content program was top shelf. I mean, it was fantastic. So that was equalizing. The hallway conversations were as global. I heard about global impact. I heard that the data science is very mission driven and you're seeing a confluence of technology and innovation with technology like data analytics, data science, fueling mission driven. So standard run your business on analytics, but now run society on analytics. So you're seeing a global framework developing around mission driven. You'll hear the word impact a lot. And it was not just speeds and fees, data science. Oh, there are plenty to geek out about, but it was more of a higher level order bit around mission and society. So this is right in line with what we're seeing at theCUBE around cloud computing, cryptocurrency and blockchain. That you're seeing a democracy being rewritten with technology. Data is the new oil. Oil is powering the new global economy. You're seeing that in all kinds of decentralized forms of blockchain and cryptocurrency. You're seeing it with businesses transforming with data science. So with that comes a lot of responsibility. So ethics conversation in the hallway. Just, it was just super, I felt like I was at like a TED talk meets, you know, you know, world economic forum meets Stanford think tank meets practitioner. It was like really exciting. And they had keynotes of which we had a few on some tech tracks and a career panel. Did you get to listen to the career panel? The career panel was interesting. And I'd love to get your thoughts on some of your interviews if they cross over because it was really more about being proud and high integrity. So the word democratization came up and the conversations in the audience when they had the Q and A was, isn't it more about respect democratization? Not to say anything wrong with that, but it's about integrity. What is the integrity of us as a community as women in data science? What is the respect, integrity and mission of the role? Of course, democratization is a side effect of good news data. So that was super exciting. And then also stand up, never give up. Never, never, never worry about the failure. Never worry about, you know, any getting a blocker or move that blocker as Theresa Carlson and Amazon would say. So it was definitely the woman vibe of, listen, don't take things lying down, have a tough skin, take names and kick butt, but be proud. That's where a lot of the, when I'd ask some of our guests, what advice would you give your younger self? And a lot of them said the same thing of, don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone. My mentor says, get comfortably uncomfortable. I think that's pretty hard for a lot. If I look back at myself 20 years ago, I wouldn't have been able to do that. It took a mentor, and just as Maria Clave has said on theCUBE before, the best time to reach and inspire the next generation of females to go into STEM is first semester university. That's exactly what happened for me, and I didn't plan it, but it took someone to kind of go, you know, like Maria said this morning, don't be focused on the things you think are not good at. So that failure is not a bad F word. Was a theme that we heard a number of times today, and I think incredibly important. And the tweets, I tweeted it out, but it was kind of said differently. I don't know the exact tweet, but I kind of paraphrase it by saying, Maria from Harvey Mudd said, look at this plenty of opportunities in data science, go there. And she compared and contrasted her journey in a male dominated world with, look at if you're stuck or you're in a rut, or you're in somewhere you're uncomfortable with from a male perspective or dogma or structural system that's not working for you, just get out of it, go to another venue. Another venue being a growth market. So the message here was there's plenty of opportunities in data science than just data analytics. There's math career paths, there's cryptocurrency, there's blockchain, there's all kinds of different elements. Go where the growth is. So if you go where the growth is, you can pioneer and find like-minded individuals. That was a great message I thought for women because you're going to find men in those markets that love collaborating with anyone who's smart. And since everyone here is smart, they're saying just go where the growth is. Don't try to go to a stagnant pond where all the dogma and the structural stuff is, it's going to take too long to change. That's my take, but I think that's kind of the message I thought was really, really powerful. And that's the message I'm going to tell my two daughters is look at, stand tall and go after the new territory. You can do anything. And that was also a theme of don't be afraid to take risks. In any way of life, if we don't take risks, we risk losing out on something. That was something that we heard a lot. I'll ask you a question then, because you did the interview, I was jealous. Because you know I hate to give up the microphone. I know you. And I love this event because it's super awesome. What were some of the highlights for you? Was there a notable interview? Was there some sound bites? What were some of the things that you found were inspiring, informational or notable? Oh, all of the above, everybody. I love talking with Maria Clave this morning who, to your point earlier, had to, from many generations, face the gender bias. And has such a, that her energy alone is incredibly inspiring. And what she has been able to do it as the first female president of Harvey Mudd and the transformation that she's facilitated so far is remarkable. Marco Gertzen also was a great inspiring guest for me. She had said, you know, they had this idea three years ago, you were there from the beginning and I said, how long was it from concept to first event? Six months. Whoa, strap on your seatbelt. And she said it was almost- And they did it on a limited budget too, by the way. Sure. She said it was almost like the revenge conference. Like, tell us we can't do something. And I heard that theme as well from people saying, tell me I can't do something and I will prove you wrong in spades. And I think it's an important message. There's still such a gap in diversity. Not just in diversity in gender and ethnicity. There's a diversity, there's a thought diversity gap that every industry is missing. That was another kind of common theme. And that was kind of a new term for me, thought diversity. I thought, wow, it's incredibly important to bring in different perspectives. And on that point, one of the things I did hear in the hallway was a conversation of, this is not just a movement. It's a collection of movements. So it's not one movement. This one is, or women in general, it's a collection of movements, but it's really one movement. So it was interesting. It was kind of like, hmm, as being a guy, I'm like, can you women explain that to me, please? So, yeah. Well, the momentum that they... What kind of movement is this? They're achieving, I'm sure there'll be a hashtag for that. And speaking of hashtags, I did think it was very cool that today is Monday, hashtag motivation Monday. This whole day was motivation Monday to me. And I asked Margo, where do you go from here? You've achieved this in the third year. And she said, doing more WIDs events throughout the year, also starting to deliver resources on demand for folks, not just females to your point. This is people in data science globally to consume. And then going sort of downstream, if you will, or maybe it's upstream, and starting to reach more of that high school age, those girls who might have a desire and interest in something, but might not think, I don't think I could do this. Well, I think one of the things that I'm seeing is that I was glad to be one of the men that stood up and there's men here, is that men being part of it is super important because these newer markets, like I was just in Bahamas for a cryptocurrency blockchain event, and it's a lot of younger generations. The whole gender thing to them, they think is nonsense. They should be all equal. So in these new growth areas, they're kind of libertarian, but also they're really open and inclusive. It's because they're open source ethos. So I think for the younger generation in the youth, we can kind of set the table now, right? And men got to be a part of that. So to be that kind of world where the conversation isn't about women in tech means it's all good now, right? So the question we've had on theCUBE is, when we're done with the diversity and inclusion discussion, that means we've accomplished the goal, which is there's no longer need for that discussion because it's all kind of leveled up. So I mean, long ways to go for sure, but I mean, that's the goal. And I think the younger generations are like, you old people are like, we don't view it that way. So we hope that structurally, you have these kinds of conferences where the conversation is not about just women, it's about the topics and their gurus at their field. To me, that is the shining light that we want to focus on because that's also inspirational. Now, the stuff that needs to be fixed is hard conversations and it's tough, but you can do both. And I think that's the message that I hear here, phenomenal. Great to hear though, from your perspectives, from what you're hearing with the millennials on the next generation going, why are you even talking about this? It would be great if we eventually get there, but some other things that are really key and some of these companies are with sponsors, Intel and SAP and what they're doing to achieve really aggressively, much more gender diversity. We heard Intel talk about it, we heard SAP talk about it today, Walmart Labs as well. And it's still obviously quite a need for it as we're just showing you. The pay gap is still off, right? Way too off, yes. So that is like, that conversation needs to happen. I'm not trying to minimize that with my other point, but I've got to get there. The other thing that's really off, the pay thing has got to get leveled up and people are working on that, that's great. Let's see the progress, let's look at the data. But the other one that no one's talking about is that not only is the pay a problem, the big problem is the titles. So we've been looking at data amongst the large of the big companies, women are getting some pay leveled up, but their titles aren't. So there's still a lot of these little things out there that matter. She's only a VP and he's an SVP, but she's actually offering an SVP level or senior director, I mean, this is happening. So much more work to do, but again, the more that they come in with the skills that they got, like in here, and the curriculum that are forming, the network set of forming, the VIP trust influence networks, it's just phenomenal. I think this is going to really accelerate the peer review, the peer relationships, access to the data, it's just, it's just the more the merrier. Shine the light on it, turn the sunlight on. Exactly, shining a light on the awareness that they're generating, and also that we have a chance to share through theCUBE and bringing more light to some of these things that you talked about. The faster, like you said, the more we're going to be able to accelerate making this a non-topic. It's our mission. theCUBE's mission is to open the content up, get the conversations, document the folks, get them ingested into our network, share our networks, open content. The more that that metadata and that knowledge can share digitally, that is the mission that we live for, as you know. We'd love doing it. You did a great job today. Thank you, it was my pleasure. It was, it's an inspiring event, even just getting prepped for it, and you can hear all the buzz around us, everyone, that it's probably, it feels pretty, it is cocktail party time, it feels pretty darn good. Well, John, thanks so much for being our fearless leader and allowing us to come here. 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