 Good one for you today. We have former Dallas Cowboy and New York Giant Pro Bowl linebacker Jalen Smith on the show. What is he up to? What does he want to be up to? We'll dig in plus joining us the star of animal control. We got to get into that and crime scene kitchen, the hilarious Joel McHale and Super Seahawks fan who wants the Super Sonics back. We'll dig in. So you can dig in. It is Operation Investigation DeAndre Hopkins. What is going on? We are sick pups and dug deep like years ago deep into bites from coaches to sort of try to piece together where he might go. Let's do it. All right. Welcome to the show. Joel McHale on Love That. He loves Russell Wilson. Curious his thoughts on him in his second year with the Broncos. We'll get his thoughts on the Seahawks. Can they take the NFC West? All those questions will be answered and we'll just have fun with him because I've got some fun video to show him Allah the Soup style to see his thoughts on that. And he's got lots of fun stuff going on. And he has a hilarious like TikTok Instagram search. He's done so much fun stuff. So we'll do that. We've got Jalen Smith on the show. Can't wait to get in his head. Maybe we'll ask him a little bit about, I don't know, Coach McCarthy and we'll ask him a little bit about obviously the the East. But if you guys have questions for Jalen Smith, hit me up at up an Adam show. I went to a concert yesterday not by myself. I went to see Conan Crows obsessed with them have been obsessed with them. I've probably seen them more than any other band in my entire life. From where I was super, super young. And it was a bit of like a time capsule moment. I hadn't seen him in about 12 years, but it was at the troubadour, which has got to be my favorite place I've been since moving to Los Angeles. And I've been to some good concert venues and obviously beautiful things outside and hikes and so on. But troubadour was like, oh, I like LA right now. I'm interested in this energy. So thank you to SiriusXM for getting me hooked up to go to that. We got a lot to talk about. So I guess we should get into it because while I was going to a concert, Hamilton was being an absolute idiot and digging in, you know, when Hamilton gets excited about something, he just keeps digging and digging and digging. And that brings us to DeAndre Hopkins because it's been a bit now. It's been a week since he was officially released. And I feel like the only news we've gotten lately is teams coming out and saying we aren't interested. We like who we have. So there's a lot flying around right now. We're going to sort it out. You and me right now and figure out who is in the race for the three time all pro. It is time for investigation and DeAndre. That's a little terrifying. I don't know how serious this is. Let's start with the unlikely suspects. Okay. First up, we got the cowboys. Here's the deal. Both Jerry and Stephen Jones came out yesterday and said Dallas is unlikely to pursue DeAndre, bringing up how happy they are to have their archer thousand year guy in Brandon Cook's. Okay. That's what they said. Next, Jaguars. All right. Now, you know, I didn't really see it as a likely destination, but still Doug Peterson figured he had to talk about it. He confirmed it. He's probably asked about it. And he said that it is not a realistic possibility for them. So scratch off the Jags and the cowboys on the list kind of all these people live. So it's whatever the bills they've considered and been considered one of the strongest contenders to land DeAndre. It makes the most sense. They got it to win the Super Bowl. And it did take Brandon Breen's comments to Pat McAfee. It took me in the direction of there's a bit of a beacon of hope. Okay. Can we see that tweet again? I didn't see it. I need to see that. DeAndre's heck of a talent. It would definitely have to fit with how we would structure the salary and all that. Never rule it out. So this has been to McAfee. Never rule it out, but it'll probably command a decent contract. Hmm. It does kind of sort of make me feel like it's not happening because the tea leaves are just the numbers. Buffalo's really tight with their cap space situation right now. So I'm going to sort of curb them a little bit. Though the doors always open. Then there's the Jets. Now we love our current group. I know we there are some stuff with Odell but other than that there's we love our group. It's very cute. Like I said. So is he. Robert Salah. So is Aaron Rodgers. So is DeAndre. It's a very like cute sexy storyline. But that's what he said about that. So they're out. How about the Lions, right? The Lions look if I'm investigating and I have my detective head on and I'm looking for teams that have this space. I'm going to Detroit. They have 24 million. They're going to be without James and Williams for a while. That you know, they might make sense. David saying that Lions coach Dan Campbell about Hopkins said I'm not going to comment on that one. But I like our receiver room. I think we got a good mix of different types of guys. So they're most likely out. But why don't you want to comment on it? Just say that you're out if you're out, right? And then there's the Browns. Okay. There were rumors swirling about him reuniting with his Texans teammate. So we've got Stefansky being asked. Andrew and his crew always looking to improve the roster. But I'll just say I really like the room, the way it is. So that says to me that gosh, we're we're striking out here people. That says to me it is probably not happening. So then you've got the Cowboys, you've got the Jets, you've got the Bills, the Browns, the Lions, the Jags, six teams. These are strong teams that were thought to be maybe not the Jags, but the rest of them like, let's make a move. These guys can swing and get Nuke and they all seem to be out of the race. So now let's take a quick look at the squads who have been very tight lipped, very quiet when talked about adding the star ride receiver. Okay. So those are the teams that sort of came out and said we're good. We're good. We're good. And then you have teams like the Giants. Davell said anytime there's anyone out there who can help the team, Joe Shine, Shane and his staff will look into it. Okay. And that's intriguing. And what's intriguing is what he didn't say. There was no, I love my receiver room. Like we heard from Dan Campbell or Kevin Stafanski. Okay. New York would have to do some serious cap gymnastics to make this work, but they seem to be at least entertaining it. Let's move on to the dolphins here. I would say this is less likely. But like I discussed yesterday with one Dalvin Cook, they do have space available and Mike McDaniel did make it clear they're going to do something with that cap room. So pairing Hopkins and Tyreek, that'd be pretty legit. That would be scary. So there's an unknown that's not totally closing the door. Then you have the Titans. They're desperate need of a number one target after trading AJ Brown last year. And Vrable was noncommittal saying that Tennessee's focus on the players they have and that, you know, he'll keep us updated. There's history that's worth considering. Remember Vrable and the DC in Houston, when Deandre is with the Texans. And when he was hired in Tennessee back in 2018, Nuke had plenty of praise for him. Quote, he's a great guy. He's not a good coach, but he's a good guy. He can relate to his players. The Titans are lucky to have him. He also goes on to say that his relationship with Vrable went beyond football, that it was personal. The Titans, I think definitely just based on this, this is a team to watch. Okay. Deandre praising Vrable, all of that. So I really think the Tennessee fit could happen. And for the last to be sort of unknown spooky teams, could it be a Ryan Paul swing for the Bears? Okay. We have not heard from polls. We have not heard from Eva Fluss about Deandre yet. But here's this to throw out there. This is what the Bears have. 32.5 million in cap space right now. By far the most in the league, they can win a bidding war against anyone. And if de hop is sold on Justin Fields, pairing that with DJ Moore in that receiver's room has to be attractive to them. Okay. He's a mover. He's a shaker. And this sort of thing can vault the Bears into the NFC North conversation. And is it worth it to be in the NFC North conversation to pay that for him if you're not going to go much further than that? Probably not. But I would be shocked if Ryan polls was not crunching numbers and weighing on a abacus thing like what white work numbers wise for them and what the value might be in bringing home this all pro. So those are the unknowns. You got the Giants, you got the Dolphins, you got the Bears, you got the Titans who I like a lot. And that's sort of the other tier of these guys and the guys that are out the unknowns. And here's I'm just going to throw them out there because you know, I'm just going to stick all the pasta on the wall and see what sticks here. There's the unlikely suspects that would be long shots but that I like. First up, this is the team that was talked about all along. It's the Chiefs. It is unlikely even though they're interested. We know that it could have been likely because they tried to make this deal happen via trade with the Cardinals. They don't have the money though. They're the second least cap space right now. What they are really crafty at with Beach who we love on this show is moving some decimal points. They can free up a lot of money in a hurry. You can see the impact of the Mahomes deal but the biggest factor here is Chris Jones. We know they're working on an extension for him. Okay and that $28.3 million cap could go down dramatically if KC can make that work. Great photo from Chris Jones at the White House yesterday taking a nap. It was great. Nuke, of course, obviously has said yeah, signing up. I play for Mahomes. No brainer for this to work if they can make the finances work. The other team that's a long shot that I want to put on everybody's radar is the Texans. Yes, you heard right. The Houston Chronicle is reporting that there is some mutual interest and they say you can't go home. Maybe you can't. DeAndre likes the rookie CJ Stroud. This was being an insane turn of events and you know, I imagine he wants to opt for a contender. I don't know what is driving DeAndre Hopkins. I have not asked him but they look like a legitimate option and if we're in a world people where live in the PGA tour can come together under one umbrella and create a new business, you think DeAndre can't go back to the Texans? Of course he can. Next, the Patriots. Okay, let's dig into this. Bill Belichick at the podium is saying I'm not going to comment on players who aren't on this team. That's his tag line. It's what he said. If he was on real house husbands of the NFL, that's what he would say to the camera in every opening credit. But on the field during in season hard knocks, we did get some insight into Bill's true feelings detective style. Take a look. Glad we only have to play you every four years, man. I love you, man. You too. You too. I miss half the season. It's still gonna be the league in receiving. You're not doing my job, man. Yeah. Trying to get better, man. Okay, there's love here. Mutual respect between the two. That might work. The question is just Bill O'Brien. Is there lingering anything between the two of them? Like Nuke, Bill O'Brien, are we friends? Do we get along? Do we love each other? That's kind of the only obstacle in my mind. Your thoughts, guys. And the last, but definitely not least, sort of outlier, like long shot, but I would love to see it happen. It's a place that's just adding receivers like they're being paid to do it. It's DeCosta and those Baltimore Ravens, okay? Eric and John have yet to comment at all on DeAndre since his release. That's sort of fishy to me, right? Like, we do know Lamar Jackson asked for the team to acquire him during contract negotiations between the quarterback and the team. And John Harbaugh has made his feelings, you guys. This is good. He's made his feelings about DeAndre very clear, not just recently, but over the past decade. Let's start back in 2013, leading up to a week three meeting with a rookie Hopkins. Harbaugh revealed that the Ravens quote loved him heading into that year's draft, but they missed out on him by five picks. Remember, they picked 32th year after winning the Super Bowl, a Houston snap nuke at 27. Okay, then there was 2017. Let's fast forward to John Harbaugh calling DeAndre a star, one of the very best top receivers in the league. And then in 2019, he said, quote, I don't see one hole in his game. High praise from Harbaugh to Hop. So we know Lamar wants Hopkins. We know Harbaugh loves him. He has for a decade. Will Eric Tecosta take the swing and do it? Potentially. It'd be crazy if they did it. What a loaded team. What would they, what would that do to them with the AFC shuffle and the hierarchy? They're already pretty high up there. Does it put them at the top of the division? I, yeah. And then does it, what does it do for them in the landscape of the AFC? That would be insane if it got DeAndre. So that's a lot of evidence. That was a lot to take in. Very comprehensive. Hamilton did so much work on this. And I'll say this, after looking at all of his evidence, the discovery put in by Hamilton, I got to come to the conclusion that the Chiefs, the Texans, the Pats and Ravens, these are the top dogs I think to land DeAndre. This is, I think he's going to one of these four teams. And I think I hit like 15 teams there. If I missed any, let me know and tweet me at up and out and show. There we go. Coming up. We've got Jaylen Smith. He was with the Cowboys. He was with the Giants. Where will he go next? Jaylen Smith joining us. Oh, looking like, oh, there we go. We got a smile on him. Joe McHale, the hilarious Joe McHale, joining us as well. Very excited about our first guest, a pro bowl linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys. If we're moving on to Green Bay and most recently in New York, we helped lead the Giants to the playoffs. A situation nobody saw coming. He was super helpful and he's not just a stud athlete. This is somebody's going to give me some business advice clearly as a rising entrepreneur. Jaylen Smith, how are you? I'm doing great. How are you doing today? I'm so good. Listen, we have so much to talk about. We'll get to the NFL stuff, but you're a busy man. Like, what aren't you doing? You just announced you're opening up a restaurant, right? Called Jinnah Rahman. That's in South Bend. Of course, Notre Dame boy Alma Mater. What inspired you to get into that space? For me, I've always been in love with the Japanese culture in Asian foods and things of that nature. I never want to be remembered as just a great football player. So I've learned to understand the value of a great relationship at a young age. So, you know, really getting indoors and always just searching for more. You know, Jinnah is a wonderful, wonderful ramen spot that is the number one ramen bar in the U.S. We have 55 locations currently and we're continuing to grow. So being a part of a startup is amazing. It's a great opportunity. It's a great experience and everyone loves ramen, especially me. I'm from the state of Indiana where it gets cold. So ramen is great when it's cold. Jaylen, what is the perfect ramen order? I walk into Jinnah. What am I ordering? I am going to get the spicy chicken. So I'm a guy that I really like cayenne and peppers and jalapenos and things of that nature. So I'll get the spicy chicken. Our Brussels sprouts are amazing for an appetizer. We have vegan tacos, gluten-free for all of those people who are on the real health tip. But yeah, we should check it out. You should definitely check it out. We're all across the country in different states. So we're continuing to grow. That's amazing. Congratulations on all the success. Just to have one place is crazy and then you're franchising these places all over the place. It's very impressive. And you're like, I'm a bad finance gal. I can't balance a checkbook. I don't know anything. But you, Jaylen, you're taking over the world with financial stuff because you've got a lot of investments, a very nice portfolio. One in particular, all the philanthropy that you do, MEI, the Minority Entrepreneurship Institute, which I was reading about it this morning. It's very like Shark Tanky. You're trying to find young minority entrepreneurs and match them with investors that can make their dreams happen. It's amazing. Absolutely. For me, it's about impact investing. It's about helping close the economic and educational gap that exists in this world today. There's only one percent of venture dollars getting invested into Black and Brown in Latinx companies. So for me, it's like, how can I help close this gap? And that's kind of like my purpose beyond athletics. So with MEI, we've invested in 13 companies thus far, over $1.4 million in growing. So that's really, like I said, it's my purpose beyond athletics. I'm just trying to grow. I'm trying to be a good steward in this great world that we live. We don't know how much time we have on this earth. So I'm just thankful. But I'm also looking forward to entering my eighth season in the national football league. So I'm grinding, just finished a workout. I know I look nice right now, but I'm gonna have to make sure I'm nice and clean after this. Well, listen, let's just get right to it then because you're doing lots of workouts that your fans are noticing. I'm sure all 32 teams are noticing these workouts you're putting up on Instagram. What do you want to happen? Like where are you at in your head with your NFL career? You know, the average NFL career is about three and a half years. So I'm beating odds. For me, I've been through, I've been through so much even coming into the league had, you know, having a devastating career-threatening injury coming out of Notre Dame, my final game. And was able to bounce back and to have some success in Dallas. And it was a great experience last year going to the New York Giants. Like you said, no one thought that we would have a playoff birth and be able to have some success. So to be a part of that, you know, to join the team and have my leadership and my experience and success kind of helped a lot of the younger guys that were on the team. It was just a beautiful thing. And Coach Brian Dable, I mean, coached a year for a reason. He's a hell of a guy. So just thankful to be able to learn and to produce. That's really what I'm about. You know, whatever team I go to next, you know, just allowing the guy that's going to come in is going to know his role is going to know the value that I can add from a leadership standpoint, but also from a production. You know, I can still play this game at a high level. So I'm grateful. Well, you had a great season with the Giants. You're giving all the credit in the world to Dable. I mean, there's leadership and that's great, but you did your thing out there. You had over 100 total tackles. When you're talking about your next team, could that team be back with the Giants? Absolutely. Absolutely. For me, it's like, I'm an expert in what I'm an expert in. And I rely on my agent to do his job. And for me, I've just got to stay ready, control what I can control. And that's really just what I'm about. That's what I like to focus on what I can control. So the sky's the limit for sure. Yeah. Now, the big news of the offseason, at least at the beginning of it before Lamar signed his deal was Daniel Jones getting that deal done with the Giants. Tell me, you were there at practices in games, like it was, you know, the Bullets are flying in action. What did you see from him in the locker room and on the field that makes you feel or maybe makes Giants fans feel good about him being their guy? You know, prior to Dave will coming in, I got to New York, the final month of the season. And I was in the sauna with DJ, we call him DJ, with Daniel Jones every single morning. And was just talking a lot about, you know, he asks a lot of questions just about game, about leadership, about, you know, what a success feel like in the national football league. You know, coming from Dallas, I've experienced, you know, a little bit of success prior to, you know, coming to New York. So we've just always been able to pick his, you know, each other's brain. And what I've learned from him is, man, he's a worker worker. He's a guy that you want in your foxhole. And he's going to go to bat for you. So that's what I love about Daniel. You know, as the season continued on, I saw his continued growth and confidence. And when he has confidence, man, he can light it up. We nicknamed him Vanilla Vic because he got to show off his feet a lot last year. So I expect that to continue, you know, headed into this season for sure. Jalen, it looks like you'd be happy to be back there. I'd actually like to see you back with the Giants, but I'm sure everything will sort itself out and you'll leave it in the hands of your agent, like you said. It's wild talking to you, because I just remember when you were this like young rookie and you were, you know, now you're you're talking business. You're, you know, you're getting yourself ready. You're very level. I can tell you have a real veteran presence about you. You know, and I'm just thinking about even back to the cowboys where you were drafted, like what have you learned? What advice would you give some of these rookies that are coming in right now? Advice I would give is the mark of greatness is consistency. You know, you are who you hang with. You got to make sure you surround yourself with the right individuals and out of the locker room just to be able to grow as a man, but as a human. You know, this time goes by so fast and, you know, I've beaten so many eyes because coming out of college, a lot of people thought I would never ever play the game again. So, you know, in seeing that and understanding that it's just a matter of valuing, you know, really not taking anything for granted. That's that's what I'm about. I'm about putting in the hard work. I'm about being a steward of the game, about being a sponge. And that's just some of the advice I would get for the young guys coming up for sure. I love that. I mean, you were there in the locker when Micah Parsons came in to the team that you were drafted. He's such a study. He's probably the best defensive player in the league right now. Return to Dallas unlikely. You know, you know, they say the whole thing of once a cowboy, always a cowboy. I'll be living in Dallas forever. I'm here right now. But but nothing but love for those guys. But like I said, I'm locked in. I'm training. I'm focused and we got 32 teams. I need one team to believe in me and we don't go. Well, you know, you're an inspiration to all players. So I'm sure teams will believe in you. You mentioned the injury you had before you even. I think that's why you have that perspective. Like you have a great, you know, what was almost taken away from you, you know, in that game with the fiesta bowl as your last game of your college career. And now it's kind of trendy, kind of controversial, though, guys and players saying, you know, we're going to make a shift here. I'm a college star and I'm going to opt to sit out of this bowl game. What are your thoughts on that? I would say it's probably the Jalen Smith rule. Now, it wasn't really OK for, for, you know, for guys to sit out prior to my injury. You know, I was going to be a top five pick. It's coming out of, coming out of Notre Dame. And then the injury happened and I ended up getting drafted like the third pick in the second round. But I'm all for a player's choice. You know, I love that they have the option to be able to make that decision on whether they would want to play in it or not. For me, being the guy that I am, I know if I had, if I could go back, I would have played again. Fiesta Bowl, Notre Dame versus Ohio State, my brother played at Ohio State. It was like eight to nine projected first round picks playing in that game. And to be able to go out the right way, being a Notre Dame captain and all of that, I would have, I would have still played in the game. So, but the fact I can't believe that. I would have. That's, that's just, that's just me as my character. That's, that's just the way I go. But I love that they have the option now to this, to decide what, you know, what's best for them, for sure. That's, that I do not think that was going to be your answer. That's incredible. It just shows a lot about your character for these 32 coaches that might be watching in these teams. Are those CEV glasses? Yes. Yes. I started my own island line called Clear Eye View. For a sec. It's all, it's all derived around a focused vision. Being able to see your vision clearly on what you want to accomplish, having a determined belief on what you want to accomplish. Understanding that there's a belief in God. You have people that believe in you and using that fuel and then earn dreams is all about how bad you want it. You know, what work are you willing to put into accomplish that goal? That's what a Clear Eye View is about. I'm wearing my blue light lenses right now, which they help you, they help relax your eyes when you're looking at screens or watching television, a movie, your laptop. I have a great team. My co-founder, Jamal Robinson, we're doing a lot of great things. So, and also on our optical side, we are going to, we are in 248 iMart Express is right now for anyone who in the optical space needs iWare lenses to, you know, to be able to see, I believe in fashion, I believe in four, affordable, but also quality. So, Clear Eye View, check us out, cvcollection.com and call me if you need. We will. We are, we are so passionate about it. We love it. Let's use your, let's use your lens, your Clear Eye View to go through a couple NFL topics here and what your thoughts are on them. I talked about Dalvin Cook yesterday. He's got three years left on his deal. He's in Minnesota. Now they're coming off a 13 and four season and they might part ways. Where should Dalvin Cook end up? Oh, Dalvin Cook. Miami? What options have you guys been talking about? I can go off of that. I think Miami's probably the best option. Miami or Minnesota? Which one, where should he go? I like Miami. They're deep. So it would, it would add depth because of the head coach knows how to utilize his players. It would be great for him to go, you know, he's a Florida State guy. So to go back home, you know, close to home, some good weather, I think he'd like that. I don't think he's like, I don't think that Midwest vibe is for Dalvin for his entire career. I'm a Midwest guy. So I have no problem with the code. But I wouldn't mind staying in either in Minnesota or Miami. Miami's just deep in the running back room. But he's a great player. He's got that. He's got that Shanahan, McDaniel has that Shanahan kind of vibe where he can use a lot of running back. So I feel like that that could work. Exactly. Thanks for trying to content. Or if he stays in Minnesota, you can open up a Jinnah ramen and you can get him that cayenne pepper stuff and keep him warm in another season. Absolutely. Jaylin, what about, what about the Andre Hopkins? Okay. I was gonna say, I was gonna say, the Andre Hopkins. Nook, I think, I think Kansas City. Me personally, just being a football fan, I think he could go there with. They don't have the money. I mean, to play with Patrick Mahomes in that red and yellow. I don't think he, you know, I mean, the Andre Hopkins has a lot of money. I think he's one. I think he wants to win. I don't think it's all about the money anymore for the, for the Andre. In my, in my opinion. I know Cassius King though. So, but I would like to see him in Kansas, in Kansas City. Would you take less to play for a contender? It depends on the contender. Absolutely. It depends on the contender. Brett Veach, Brett Veach, Kansas City. Let's make an offer. Let's get a deal done. They're certainly a contender. We would love to see that. I'm a little worried if DeAndre goes to the Chiefs. Not worried, but like the chemistry was so on point last year for that team, like is adding DeAndre going to take away from what they were able to accomplish? Like they didn't need a DeAndre, you know? I mean with Juju, with Juju Smith, he signed with the Patriots, correct? Mm-hmm. So, I mean, there's a window. My little brother is there, Scott Moore. And I know he's going to emerge to become a star. What do you mean your little brother? Scott Moore. That's, that's my, that's my brother. So we, we have the same family office, Rye Sports Advisors. They help athletes become great entrepreneurs and run their businesses. So me and Skye has got, we've gotten close. He's a Western Michigan guy. So, you know, some, some mid-west Kalamazoo vibes, but no, I really, I'm really fond of, of, you know, their wide receiver core. But I think DeAndre Hopkins, wherever he goes, I mean, he's going to, he's going to be him. It just comes down to who's going to bite the bullet. I see a lot of teams and coaches saying that they're, they're good on their, their wide receiving cores and things of that nature. But we all know what, what DeAndre Hopkins can do. Who's the best defensive player in football? Ooh. Um, I think Michael Parkinson, I think Michael Parsons will be for sure. He's not yet. What does he have to do? I would say Aaron Donald is just, I know, you know, he battled some injuries and, you know, the team struggled a lot last year and everything, but Aaron Donald is, he's legit. He's, he's, you know, what it will be called a proven process, you know, and it's just something that you, you, you, you can't go around. So, but yeah. Yeah. And they're making him, they're making him like a, yeah, they're making him an edge rush or pretty much the whole time this year, Micah, that'll be interesting. You know, you know the whole rumors about him being the closest thing to Lawrence Taylor, if anybody can, if anybody can, can be in that argument or conversation, whether it's true or not yet, you know, that's, that says something about a guy's potential. And Micah, he's not scared of anything. He's not scared of competition. He's not scared of failure. He's not scared of in anything. And that's what gives him his edge. I believe because he's going to go. Yeah. Maybe we should call Mike McCarthy and get you back on the Cowboys. You trying to give me back in NFC East. I actually want to see you join the NFC East but take on the Cowboys. I don't, I just, I just have a feeling. I just like when you, what were those games like going up against the Cowboys with the Giants? Ooh. It was monumental Thanksgiving last year. Yeah. Um, I really wanted us to win. Um, but it felt like it, honestly, it felt like a home game because, you know, I've been in, I, you know, I drafted in Dallas and played there for five and a half years and I still live in Dallas to this day. So I'm on the office, I'm on the opposing team playing in ATT stadium and all the fans are like, Jaylee, we miss you. Clear as you. Mr. Clear as you. I'm like, I'm your enemy right now. I'm, I'm really trying to go into your heads, you know, so it was a great environment. You had a good game. Family that lives out here. So you had 10 tackles. You had 10 tackles and you had 10 tackles in that game. I looked at the numbers this morning, you had a hell of a game. You didn't win, but you had a hell of a game. Man, it was, it was definitely an honor going up, uh, going up against my, my, my brothers, my, my old teammates for sure. Uh, last one for you, just because you played with both quarterbacks, you talked about Daniel Jones, similarities between Dak Prescott and Daniel Jones. Like what's the, what's the one thing that sort of strings the two of them together if there is one? I would say, I would say they're, I would say they're hunger, they're hungerness to grow. Like neither Dak or DJ like are satisfied with what they've accomplished or with how far they've come. Like, they really want to win it all. They want to be, they want their names to really be remembered. Um, you know, it's not about finances, it's about success. You know, they, they're, they're, they're pretty sad when it comes to, you know, dollars they're making and things like that when, you know, from a, from a quarterback standpoint, but they want, they want, they would, they really want to leave their mark on this, on this game and on their franchises. And that's what I respect the most because they don't take, they don't, they don't take shortcuts. It's really well said. Jaylin, you got to come back. I know you're super busy with your, like literally your list of investments. It's like, cryotherapy, mental strength app, Zyrtu, Onyx and East, The Cycle, EOS, Worldwide, but mostly, I think the Minority Entrepreneur, Entrepreneurship Institute is so incredible. And I'm happy to give that love or if you guys ever need anything, I know it's, you know, it's for minority groups, women are included in that, of course, anything that I could do to help, let me know. Okay. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I appreciate y'all having me on the show and, um, I'll have to come back. You'll have to come back. We appreciate you. You think Michael Parsons might be the best. I think Bobby Wagner is still the best defensive player. He's back up in Seattle. Joel McHale will join us to break that down and talk about that as Jalen finds himself a new NFL home to make an impact on. Mr. McHale. Very excited about our next guest. He is the definitive Seattle Seahawks super fan. You know him from Community, Animal Control, and Crime Scene Kitchen, which has had its season to premiere last night on Fox. Please welcome the hilarious Joel McHale. Hello. Thank you, Kay. Thank you so much. Thank you, audience. Thank you, audience. Thank you. Thank you. Listen, I got to tell you, Joel, I was doing some like show prep and I was, I put into, you know, all the apps just your name to sort of see like, what does he have been up to? It is so delightful. It is so fun. Like in what, you know, you're on podcast and you've got Crime Scene Kitchen. Congratulations on that. And then it's like you and Steve Harvey on Family Feud and then it's you and, you know, your drink, you're singing like Cool in the Gang with Jimmy Fallon on Name the Tomb. Like, do you ever stop yourself and say like, what is my life? Yeah, I'm like a disease that has no, you know, treatment. It just, I just say, my mantras say yes to everything and my goal is to annoy people to the point where they have to watch something I'm on. Yeah, you can tell that I'm an extreme extrovert. I'm a, I'm like a golden retriever person. I just feel slightly guilty that I'm not in studio with you, but you guys are next to the airport and would have taken me a day and a half to get there. Yeah, that wouldn't have been fun. I appreciate you coming on the show. We'll talk some Seahawks for sure, but Crime Scene Kitchen was last night. Oh, thank you. Oh yeah, well go ahead. I want to interrupt you. I'll let you promote the show. Go ahead. Well, that's on and that's going, but then you have animal control, which has got picked up for a second season. You know, you've had snakes around your neck, tarantulas crawling up through your face. You have to get cows out of frat houses. I mean, I hear that they say in Hollywood, Joel, that there's two people you don't want to work with, kids and animals. What were you thinking? Well, it's funny because that spider on my face is actually a kid as well. So, yeah, there's a shirt on the flyer. Yeah, no, that I feel like yet never work with kids and animals. Unless the entire focus of the show is kids and animals. So, if we put them forward, then it will detract from my bad acting. Is there an animal that you refuse to work with? Is there somebody on your like, your, your no trade clause NFL style that you're like, absolutely not? Oh, there's a number of human beings I refuse to work with. Technically, our animals, I won't name them here. No, I, I'm very lucky because I don't, I love that stuff. And my, when I call home or send pictures to my wife from the set, she'll be like, wow, this really is the perfect job for you. Because like that spider thing or when I was, I held a bobcat, I couldn't get enough of it. I wanted to adopt them and bring them home and raise them as a child, as my child. So, yeah, there it is again. That, that, that was literally yeah, that, that, the real name of that tarantula is Gretchen. And she actually goes around to schools all over Vancouver, British Columbia and kids have, kids have been working with her for years. She's very, now would you do that? No, no, I'm not afraid of spiders, but on my face, I just, I don't, I don't think so. I feel like that would be a great way. My problem would be, go ahead. No, I think it would be a great way to kick the show off tomorrow morning. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I usually shot a tequila. We'll do it. But yeah, we could definitely try a tarantula crawling across, across my face. I think my issue in shooting the show like that would be, I'm the most impatient person. And I imagine it takes a lot of patience, honestly, to work with these animals. Oh, you mean, so you would get to set and be like, just, just make sure that kitties and the dogs are in the right place. Let's go. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Get that chinchilla out of here. He's, he's screwing around. No, I didn't move him. I would say, hey, hey Grisha, or whatever your name is, like, get your shit together. Like we've, I've got, we've got lunch in two hours. Like, let's go. That's what I would be like. I'd like, yeah, it's fun to see K-Adams yelling at a spider. Get your shit together, spider. Listen, I'm not, I'm not afraid of animals, Joe. Were you impatient with were you impatient with your interior design behind you, that lamp, were you happy with? Yes. I kind of, I'm not even in my studio. Listen, I too was like, I'm not going to the airport today. So I'm hanging out on the west side and this is my, my fake studio from home. But I've got some good stuff. Listen, I got some girls behind me. Yeah, you got a little, you got a little dolly. Oh shoot. Oh gee. You know, Bill Walsh, Bill Walsh, the score takes care of itself. Yeah. The famous photo. A book by Brian Billick, who knows, I got dolly though. He got a lot of dolly. That's good. That's a big, yeah. And you ever put that on it, like right as the show starts, as the theme? Yeah. I put this on, with my tarantula and it all just really works out. It's why I got so many Emmy nominations this year. Listen, so that is in your home. That is the corner, a corner of your home studio. It's like an extra room between my garage and my actual house. So if I showed you what was on the other side of what I'm staring at right now is boxes and all sorts of, hodge podge, if you will, a potpourri of random stuff that I won't put in my house. See, that's where your audience can sit on those boxes and cheer you on. Listen, let's talk a little Seahawks. This is how I was going to talk a little. Let's talk a little Seahawks. I was going to, well listen, I was going to say, let's, you know, speaking of animals, I'm really scared of that hawk that flies around the stadium. That's what I was going to do. Now that is a transition. Yeah. Don't mess with us. We will set a hawk tree in the stadium and he will land on you. If you're, you know, if you're not cheering loudly enough, he will land on you. And see, look, the guy who he landed on, not happy. Everybody else thrilled. That's good luck. Okay, talk to me about your Seahawks. What is it like to be a Seahawks backer in 2023? How are you feeling about the team? I love those rookies. I love them. Yeah. I mean, think about last year at this time and how negative all of football was. And they're like, I don't know. Seahawks, I mean, they might win one game. Maybe they'll forget their uniforms. I don't know. I don't know how Gino is going to be. Do you think he knows where the stadium is? It was the, the sky was falling. And then all of a sudden, it was great. And it was Cinderella's story. And it really did the psychology of going into it with everybody saying how bad they thought it would be. And then, you know, it was a brilliant, wonderful season making the playoffs. Gino was brilliant, obviously, DK and Lockett really were incredible. And now we got Jackson Smith. And so that weapon right there, I mean, that's, I feel like Gino can just, Gino can just hop the ball up in the air and go take a break. And one of those guys will get it. And then, you know, we've got that new cornerback witherspoon. And he seems very exciting. And I think we might have, hey, look at that. They met, they met, they met on my side at draft. The day, the day they were drafted, it was very cool. I'm obsessed with them. I'm a big Seahawks backer this year. This is very exciting. Now, what happens next year? Are you going to go to some other team? I picked the Bengals. I picked the Bengals and they went to the Super Bowl out of nowhere. And I'm having that vibe about the Seahawks because the NFC West is kind of whatever. And you have Bobby Wagner back who I am obsessed with. So. He's a legend. And they will build statues to him. And I'm very happy he's back. We also have a new center or there's a center. I think there's a battle for center going on. And if we can, you know, it's the, it's that traditional thing to say, which is if we can protect the quarterback, we're going to be fine. And we're going to be just great. And, you know, and as everyone else says, every single time they go, well, if everyone stays healthy, yeah, of course. So I am deeply excited. And I don't know, maybe this will bring back the Seattle Supersonics somehow. Tell me about that. You're trying to get them back? Yes, single-handedly. No, I know it's not, you know, there's no expansion, there's no expansion on the horizon. But everyone in Seattle is like, come on, let's somehow, let's get blood from a stone. So yeah, it's, it is, it is the thorn in the side of, I think one of the greatest sports fans city on the planet. Thank you. I'm Joel McHale. What's, what's your pitch, Joel McHale, for them? You have to, no one's going to sell their team. I mean, it doesn't happen anymore because everyone realizes how valuable an NBA team is. No one, and they know if there's even a threat to lose, Seattle is the big boogeyman sitting right there, ready to hand you like $1.5 billion. And so that's why teams, they hardly even get to a point now where they even are contemplating selling because they know that Seattle will take them. So it's a wonderful capitalist cycle that we would love to participate in. See Russell Wilson. You're going to go ahead. I liked it. I liked it, but I feel like you lost the Super Sonics and Russell Wilson. But you seem pretty happy about what's going on with your Seahawks, but I know you're close with him. You interviewed him on Kim Alive and sort of expressed that, you know, him bringing a Super Bowl to Seattle was a better and greater moment for you than the birth of your children. There was obviously a little drama on his way out of Seattle. What's your relationship with Russell Wilson? I know that you know him a little bit. We have texted a bit and he's a very, he's one of the nicer people around and it's always been great to my family. And, you know, the way he left was, it was abrupt. And, but, you know, with that much money on the line, I would put that question to so many people, but, you know, he brought us a Super Bowl and so I, they will make statues to him and then he got us there the next year. So he's, he will always be a hero to me. And, and so I think I, you know, people can, I think people should focus. Teams that have never even, you know, they've never won, they've never gone. And so, so I, you know, that that time was magical. And I think he helped create a culture with the team that, you know, is still around to this day. So, so I'm, you know, obviously I want the Seahawks to win. And last year when we beat Broncos in the first game of the season, it was quite dramatic and exciting. And I was like, well, we're good now. That's all we needed to do. But, you know, I think that, I think everyone, it's gone on this bandwagon of kind of taking a dump on him which I think is not fair. And, and I think the Broncos would be perfectly good and fine. I think they've, you know, they obviously have that new coach and he's great. So that's a lot of me talking and now Russell and I, he should take me to a steak dinner. I just think it's fine. And I agree with you. I'm a defender of Russell. So I think it's like cheap and low-hanging fruit. But he, and what I like about him the most, and I know him a little bit, it's just, he knows it's coming. He knows when he does, you know, Mr. Unlimited or the, you know, the subway commercial or whatever, let's ride or whatever. He knows it's coming. He doesn't care. He still stays true to himself and he doesn't, it doesn't bother him. You, however, as a snarky, a reverent comedian, being friends with him is very fascinating to me. I actually, I'd like to watch a conversation between you two. Oh, yeah. I tell way too many jokes out of complete insecurity. Great. You're the absolute best. Go ahead. Yeah, I did get, I did get to get at the NFL Awards. Gina couldn't be there, but I gave, you know, I accepted for him the comeback player of the year. And that was a very, very exciting. And I got to bring my kid and it was, it was great. So I was just thrilled. It was, yeah. And then I got to go to the Super Bowl last year. It was, even though neither of my teams were in it, you know, it was deeply exciting. This is going to cut us off here in a minute. We appreciate you, Jill, Mikhail. Don't blame us, don't blame us, baby. Thank you, Gia. Enjoy the view of your boxes. Dance and jolly. Woo.