 Big shit, big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle nigga big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle issue, boy. E-C-E-O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Maker, what's going on? Man, man, oh love, man, what's going on with you? None, you know I'm here. Man, I cut you out a little bit at the front. Yes, you did. Say, man, I'm sorry. I wanna apologize right now there. Hey, man, we got this boy, man, in here. Don't need no introduction, man. This dude is a comedian, man, that I ain't gonna lie to you when I see your skits online and when I see how he, you know, then came across my Instagram on a few occasions and made me smile. I just say thank you, man. That boy, Calamor White, is in the building. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? What's going on, where? Man, I ain't gonna lie. When I seen you the first time, I said, this is just Bobby Valentino, nigga. I said, this is nigga Bobby Valentino. I told my wife, get the picture. Put them beside each other, nigga. That's him right there. I either get him or Silk the Shocker. Silk the Shocker. I put an interview in that nigga New Orleans a couple of weeks when I'm down now. And then get to do it. But that's how it's coming, man. I'm family with them boys over there. So how you doing, man? Man, I'm blessed, man. We out here working. Out here making, working this Texas circuit right now. You're a Dallas native, though, right? No, I'm originally from Florida. You from Florida? I've been living in Dallas for the past 10 years from 2012. Oh, that's why. The 22. Nigga, you were down here when we were really getting it in here. I was down. When I first moved out here, Beemers was popping. I was in Beemers every Friday and Saturday. If somebody got killed over there, then they quit. Yo, y'all remember that? Yeah, yeah, it went down. It was the part where it was still Beemers. It was Beemers at the time. When somebody got killed. See, I was going out with that nigga, Pookie Leroy, used to pull up in a big school with the paint that he did. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You was down here with money. Mike and Pookie was going down through that. I was pretty bored out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, them niggas got that. Pookie Leroy had made it up. Yeah, them niggas got to. Them niggas got to ask them more. Then they got to be, yeah. Yeah, Pookie Leroy had made it that one-nil system part. Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah. Hey, that boy went down through that. Shout out. I mean, like I said, that nigga close to me. I put a Pookie Leroy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wanted them guys that from East Texas to Dallas. You know, he really, he definitely got a, you know, family and stuff, and it pretty much links us together because of that. He real dope, man. So, what's going on? No, you know, we like to take it back to your childhood. He said in Florida. Where part of Florida are you from? St. Petersburg, Florida. The fourth largest city in Florida, because every time I tell people I'm from Florida, they automatically like think about Miami and shit. Fort Laudale, I think about Fort Laudale. Yeah, yeah, but I'm from St. Pete. We're the fourth largest city in Florida. I be having to put that out there. Never heard of that. You know, right away? Yeah. He from St. Pete. We from the same city. We can write the boxer. Yeah. St. Pete, nigga, what you talking about? Hey, nigga, you live. Nigga, you ain't Dallas, nigga, you got me. You got me. So, which city you're at? You're at Florida or you're at Dallas? Dallas? Dallas? I real, can you in Dallas, nigga? I real, I real, I real, Florida, the state. You serious? But I also, Dallas left my second home. Oh yeah. This is where my comedy career started out here. How old were you when you moved here? I was 24. 24, also you grown when you moved here. Why did you move? I got out of prison. What? I did, yeah, I did. Four years in prison in Florida. That's to be real on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, the day I got released, man, I went from my prison cell to the Greyhound station straight to Texas, and I ain't look back. So, when I moved out here, I got out. Yeah, we gonna go back. We gonna go back. You got to get in prison talk. I wanna hear how they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sitting in the cell, wanna be out looking nigga. But what happened while you even got in trouble in the first place? Shit, being a follow, selling drugs, and... You a dope boy. Robbing niggas and... Robbing niggas. All type of shit. Big wheels turning. Violating probation. Damn. So how you end up in that? Okay, so were you raised with a mom and dad? Did you have like good influence around you? I was the only child. And what so? I'm glad you asked that because me, I was the first near my cousin, Joe. I was the first near my family that ever go to prison. Like I grew up in the church. My grandma was a pastor. My uncle was a choir director. My grandma, she's a pastor. I got another uncle. He's a minister. You know, I saw him in the choir. Everybody was so mad at you when that happened. Yeah, they were mad, but it was like shit. Like I said, I grew up my only child. But so I was spoiled. But when my mom stopped that shit, it was like I became rebellious. Rebellious. Nobody told him that. My dad, he was in the service. Like what so crazy? I feel like I'm living with my dad like cause I got a kid in Florida. You feel me? But I'm in Texas. But when I was growing up, I was in Florida and my dad was living in Texas. Oh wow. Listen to me ask you this. Do you feel like most of these people been coming on our panel is niggas, ex cunts look like a lot of them come on. A lot of them, you have some. You have some. That's why I'm trying to figure out, you know, the reasons why people get in trouble and do all of that is because of the environment. It really like, you ever heard the term, I'm trying to get a percentage nigga, y'all. About 80%. 80%. The people that's been in trouble. But you know what though? I think it's a little high. No, no, no, that's been on our platform. No, but the funny thing is like, when I came here from Jamaica, it seemed like a lot of people make it seem normal to go to jail. I'm not saying prison, but normal to go to jail is like everybody that I've ever met has been to jail one time. I'm like, how can you make that be normal? It's usually because of some traffic ticket or something like that, but I'm like, how can you make that normal? Like, yeah, I've been to jail. Because the term, I'm gonna tell you that term, product of my environment, that's like a real true term. And like once you get older and you understand how your mind works and you know what's around you, you understand, you was tip, like I tell myself every time, like, you know what? I was supposed to go to jail in prison. Like nigga, I ain't had no guidance, no like influence, the influence I did have was like rappers and shit, and they was talking about the same shit I'm doing. You've even like, that's why I'm doing it, listening to the evening, especially. But is it over though? Like, you don't have to climb no more. Yeah, I ain't, yeah. Well, let's talk about it. It's your mindset though. Yeah, but I wanna talk about it. I'm gonna tell you, when I was doing trouble, when I was, you were stealing, I was doing all type of shit, but I'm gonna tell you who the hottest artist was. Who, Rick Ross. No, he from Florida, but ain't everybody listening to this nigga. Plyes. That's what made you get hyped about it. Boy, when he was here last night. Plyes, yeah. In Texas. In Dallas. In Dallas. Plyes influenced a lot of niggas, boy, to go to jail in prison. Well, he had a song called, I should have one. The Hammond niggas and stuff. He's trying to help you niggas. When I was turning myself in, I was going to jail, turning myself in, listening to that nigga, and crack a game out of him. Bam out of him niggas for a year. You feel the same. Listen to that. Damn, I'm finna be next. You know that song? No. No? No. But ain't hold on, I'ma tell you how the truth. I think it's an excuse though. I really honestly thinking it's an excuse. Listen, I'ma tell you the truth. I'ma tell you the truth. Listen, listen. Because you have people who've been raised in terrible environment, don't have no money, whatever, and still come out, don't end up selling drugs, don't end up doing this, and end up coming out good. So why is it that, yes, it's a few. Why you had to miss it. You know, it's a few. It's a few, but why is it any percentage at all compared to, you know, the masses? So it is a possibility. Then you also gotta think about like we being attacked. Like when I had got locked up, when I went into prison, like my initial violation of trial was possession of cocaine, and the police officer, he pulled out a little baggy, and I was out of dope. So I know I ain't having no cocaine. I was going to re-up. Long story short, to this day, I think that officer planted that shit on me. So like we still being attacked. So you didn't have no fingerprints on it? Let it be real for a second. No, I swear to God, I ain't having no fingerprints. I don't even, I wasn't even selling coke. I was selling crack. Coke on your thing. Yeah, I was selling crack. And it had some real, that was his personal stuff. That was his personal stuff. That was his personal stuff. Right, right. I'm gonna be reading back a residue. And I'm like, bro, I don't even sell coke. I sell crack. Like I don't even. You told him that? Huh? You told him that. I didn't say that, but that's what I was thinking. In your mind, like damn. And then my cousin was like, this was the funny part about that story that they all were getting arrested. Your cousin in the car? Nah, my cousin, they were pulling up. My cousin, they all, they all like to go steal. They go to the Tyrone Mall, they go steal and shit. So they pull up, they like seven deep in one car. So my cousin, like she pull up, she was like, let me get this car. Let me get this car. So I'm like, yeah, cause get my car, get my car. Then when the police took me like, pulled out with me, I was like, damn, I shouldn't have gave my cousin my car. That she took the car. All them hoes in the ghetto, I was like. What happened? What was the next episode? They went and stole. Then your car got you out of the back door. Nah, they still had my car. It was a 96-month-old. That's the part of the game. That's your family, money. That's how we get that. No, cause in my head, I'm thinking like, I'm looking at her. I'm like, bro, she don't want my car cause she trying to help me. Like these hoes are deep in one car and like trying to get my shit. Still though, I already know how I'm telling you that. That's your cousin, man. So, but long story short, I learned my lesson when I went to prison. I was in and out of jail like three, four times. But I'm just wanting to go back. It just took one time for prison. But you was robbing and you robbed. Selling drugs. When you robbed, what did you do? I want to hear details on it. You don't rob no more. Nah, when I was robbing, I was just sticking up old white people. That's who you were getting. I wasn't running in traps and shit like that. You just stick up kid to the old, I was sticking up old white people and how I got caught was, like I used to be coming to school and shit, you know, buying the holes, lunches, twisters and cups of fries and all the time shit. So my, yeah, so my home, but I was like, damn, what the fuck? This need getting all this money from. He hating on you. Nah, they just want to be down with the shit. So I ain't gonna lie like, the first mission I put them on, we get caught. And that's how the jail and the prison and all that shit started. Cause I was doing that shit by myself for a while. For how long? For about like two, three months. For how long? I thought he was gonna say some years. Nah, I was not. When they caught you, how'd they catch you? It was a school thing. Like, nigga just want to go to school with some money and fresh and be able to not want to go. Like we got lost. The white man called you robbing the white people. How did that happen? We got lost cause we was in some sub division in snare island in Florida and snare island is like a big ass sub division, big mans and all type of shit you vid me. So when we growing that bitch, like we do our thing as we trying to get out, we basically just got lost. This is like before GPS, all that shit. So it's like we trying to find the how the fuck we got up in this bitch. And by the time we get out, we going down the road, the police coming the other way. So we like, okay, boom. So then like we look back, they hit the lights and they hit a U-turn. So they yoke behind us. We pull into the stove. My homeboy jump out. My other homeboy jump out. My other homeboy, he jump out the back. And my stupid ass, I'm the only one with the child lock on. Nigga cannot get out. Nigga cannot get out. Can't catch a break. Boy, I cannot wait. They found one of my homeboys in the trash can. Yeah, of course. That's what they get him at. My god brother, peanut god bless it did. He got away. He got killed like, I got out May 12th, 2006. He got killed May 31st, 2006. Wow. Yeah. Then another nigga, Sharad. He actually got caught. He got locked up with me and he got probation, just like I got probation. Okay. So you get into prison. I mean, you scared cause you ain't never been there before. Don't try to act hard. Yeah, yeah. Prison, I was scared. Yeah, you were scared. Nigga, you got on the yard. First day you get in there, you walk in and how do they, what's the process in Florida? When you walk in, what do they do? In Florida, everybody go to OCI. Is it a bus that drop y'all out? Yeah, that's in Orlando. Okay, let's talk about it. You know, when you first go to prison, like when I got my time in jail, I was happy cause you know, niggas be seeing they counted jail, don't know when they finna get out. People be happy to go to prison. That's everywhere. That's all of them. So when I got my time, like I was happy here. I'm like, yeah, I got four years. I know when I'm going on. Yeah. I'm ready to go to prison. Did you do the whole four? I did the whole four on purpose. I'ma tell you why. Okay, let's rock. But I want to know about that first day when you got down there, when you go to burn nigga snuff. They like, who was that nigga right there? That nigga. Listen, the first day, nah, the first day you get there, you go to OCI, you go to Orlando. That's the reception center. That's like where everybody go before they send you to your main camp. Okay. So when I get there, I'm 20. So now they, but so I'm considered a youth offender. Oh yeah. So it's like, I go to the prison where it's 16 year old and 20, 20 year old, when you turn 21, you go to the like adult camp. You see? But you really like an OG. Basically, but niggas, hell nah, these young niggas gonna be the fuck about you, nigga. Boy, this shit like glad he had a camp cause I remember growing up, my cousin Larry, he got 40 years right now, but he stayed in trouble. And growing up, I remember, growing up, I remember my cousin, he used to be in and out the wild camps. And every time he come home, niggas always just want to slap box and just fight niggas all the time. You feel me? So when I'm at OCI, this this camp called Brevard, they were like, boy, you don't want to go to Brevard, but that's a glad he had a camp. Boy, like, you don't want to go there. At Ferguson in Texas, but keep going. And nigga, they sent me there. I'm talking about niggas. Well, that made you nervous. Well, yeah, niggas scared to look. Knock one of these niggas out, you know? All the new M.A., we on the bug. We scared, like, they don't want to go to Brevard, but they like, nigga, we know what's gonna go on. Niggas is getting, they fly it up out this bitch down there every night, type shit, you feel me? So I'm like, I don't want to go to Brevard. So when we get to Brevard, you know, the first three days, everything cool, you feel me? I'm like, oh, this shit all right. You feel me? Like, yeah, they give it a bad rep. This shit ain't where everybody think it's in. So boom, nigga, I'm coming back. We coming back from the childhood, all the new M.A.s and shit like that. We get back from the childhood, I going on my locker, all my shit gone. So you feel me? Like, nigga, don't came by. Nigga took the sheets and everything on my bed. Like just took all my shit out my locker. And that's like, it's called T.O.H. Test the heart. This little shit, you feel me? They want to see what the fuck you feel to do. Like, you just sit on your bed and be a bitch about it. Or if you feel to go to the head, nigga, like ask them, like, man, like, what's up? Like, who took my shit? Like, whoever took my shit, like we got to catch the paint, catch the wall type shit. Test the heart, test the heart. Yeah, that T.O.H. You can be cold as hell if you don't test the heart, nigga, runnin'. Like my first two weeks, I was fighting. Now, what'd you do when they took your sheets, nigga? I got my ass up. You went out there? Yeah, nigga, they tear my ass up. It was a bunch of us. Because the pound was ran by ZMF, them Zomafia niggas. Zomafia came. I'm talking about them niggas. Told my ass up, like, just for the simple fact, like, you assing with your shit at, nigga, like, nigga, we took that. Thank you, yeah, nigga. You ain't supposed to have no sheets when you come in this whole nigga. She said I have no sheets. But after they told my ass up or whatnot, you feel me, I had got a one-on-one with the one of the niggas. I beat him up. Like, told his ass up. You asked that nigga for a fat one. Cause it was like, they gonna beat your ass first. Then I'm like, okay, man, pick out somebody you wanna fight, and then we gonna give you one-on-one type shit. That one, I don't like that gang shit, cause niggas pick you like, now I just trying to chill today, but not you out of fight to rep the gang and shit. Like, you don't know what this nigga got. I don't tow this nigga ass up in front of his brothers and shit like that. You can't just say it like that. Yeah, and then your brother be lookin' at you like, nah, you let this nigga neutral ass nigga, beat your ass. Like, neutral? I'm coming in and whooped you, dude. But after that, like, they give you your respect. They give you your shit back. Is it any gang banging going on or is it? Well, it ain't none, but gang banging. So was you a neutron or was you an idiot? Nah, I stayed a neutral, cause my homeboy, that was part of Zoo Mafia family. That why I ain't, that gang banging shit is, is backward, cause it's like Zoo Mafia family. Like, it's, it's American. You niggas ain't Haitian. You, all you niggas America, then they got black Latin King. You niggas ain't Spanish. Like, how you a Latin King? That's why I ain't take none of that gang banging shit serious in prison. So what did you, what did you do when you, when you finally get your respect? You whooped this nigga up. Okay, what's next? Oh, after that, it was just number smoke. It was just number smoking, gambling, eating and sleeping. Like my time went, like when I turned 21, I had went to the, I got transferred to the adult camp. Now, now I'm in with niggas with niggas who's doing life. Two lights in the back. Yeah, niggas who's done been in this business. I was two types. Yeah, you've been so now I'm on the adult camp. Like with the real light, but on the adult camp, it's way more laid back than the wild camp. Cause they ain't on that shit. Like they only fighting if you owe a nigga money or if you fucking with a nigga boy. You've been there. What was the craziest thing? I'm telling you why they fighting in prison. What was the craziest thing that you've seen when you was a nigga? I niggas were fighting. I niggas with titties way like here. Yeah, niggas titties were big in the bitch. I'm talking about big titties niggas. They had a boyfriend nigga. Niggas be getting married on the red yard. They got some shit called Lovers Lane. Niggas be melting jolly wrenches for lip gloss. Yeah, I know. Niggas be shaving off their eyebrows, getting permanent tattoo pen eyebrows. Yeah, in the offices, the correctional offices, they be encouraging that shit. Wow. They be right there just cheering them on. So you went, you was in it and you was in it, you had no other way out. What was the craziest thing you seen somebody get into it over? A punk. That was the craziest thing. Yeah, I'm like, y'all are really fighting over these niggas. But a nigga like niggas, you mess with my hoes. Bro, like it's just the fact like niggas watching. Like you can't get caught watching a nigga like doing this thing. Like niggas just actually died in prison over punks. Niggas are killing your ass. And back in the day, like when my cudd, when my uncle knew he used to get locked up, they used to come home and tell him they prison stories and shit like that. They used to say like the punks used to take care of the niggas in prison. Like, yeah, the punks like spend all this money to take care of the niggas. When out boy, that shit reversed. Like throw niggas in there, taking care of the boys. Damn. So tricking on them. That's crazy, ain't it? Boy, it's a whole different world in prison. Who'da thought that they'd be in there? I'm talking about the niggas. The Jalleranches and Kulosh doing it. The niggas will fold their pants up, put the belt on and put it over their shoulder like a purse. All type of shit be walking around in their drawers. Do you, do you really, do you really, I mean, when you went down there, do you really think that, you know, like, damn, did you, did anything that you thought about prison, was it anything that you had in your mind? Like, this is the way it's gonna be, totally different. I remember I used to watch that movie, and what movie that is. Locked Up. The movie Stacey from the Woods when he got, I used to buy, that's what I used to think prison was like. You feel me? Then when I went to prison, I'm like, it ain't nothing like that. This really, prison is really like the project. If you ever lived in a project, that's what prison like. Yeah, yeah. You have to find out. Prison, just like the project. Exactly right. So let's come out of prison right now. So when you left, you say you went on a Greyhound bus, came straight to Texas. Your dad was still out here when you came? No, my dad actually was living in Florida. And before I started, when I was on probation and shit like that, after my first time getting out of jail, I actually tried to live with my dad cause he had moved back to St. Pete. But every week this nigga had the excuse of why I had to leave. Just like, trying to kick me out. You be like, nope. Yeah, he ain't want me around cause he felt like I was fucking up his floor. Used to have women coming over and it was a one bedroom. And you how old are you at this time? I was 18, 19 at the time. You get me? So this before I left. So who was in Texas? That was before prison. Yeah, that was, this was like while I was on probation and shit like that. You feel me? Yeah. But so why Texas? Why you came out of Texas? Who did you come to? My mom, my mom was living in Texas. You feel me? Like I lived in Jacksonville from sixth grade to 10th grade, but then that shit ain't work out in Jacksonville. So my 11th and 12th grade year, I had moved back to St. Pete. And then that's when the trouble had started. So 2010, I had got a lot. I went to prison from 2008 to 2012. So in 2010, my mom had moved to Texas. So she was like, you know, when you get out, just move here and I'll help you get on your feet. That's why I left my prison from the, I went from the prison cells to the greenhouse, I just straight to Texas and I ain't a little bad. So I got out without like over 400 songs. I was rapping. I wanted to be a rapper. I know you had wanted to be a rapper because I seen that song. I don't know if it does not work or not. You know, it's like, that's crazy because he had his mindset on rapping. Just like a lot of people, Jamie Foxx wanted to be a singer, then he ain't gonna get an actor, so it'll flip on you, go ahead. But then you came out and is that when the rapping started first or then, or the comedy started? Yeah, the rap, I got out like over 400 songs. I was rapping. And what did you do? You just went and started? No, I was, I was actually pursuing that shit. I had dropped like Alice. Yeah, I had dropped like three mixtapes. I got like videos on Vivo. Like you didn't get that feature from Pukulira. I don't know the shit. That's He didn't pursue it. I was really, look, I got real good quality videos on YouTube still, like a Vivo channel. Like I was really pursuing that shit and what? But nothing popped off. Well, yep. Well, Mammy started what got me into comedy cause I always wanted to sign with T.I. Like that's my favorite rap. I seen that on the interview you said that you see the nigga about 30 times on the wall right there. Yeah, but he tipping me. Now, let's talk about, Yeah, you with my kids right there. Let's talk about T.I. for a second. Because did you ever meet T.I.? Man, I'm finna show you how, I'm finna tell you how everything come forth. So you know T.I. doing comedy right now. Correct. He doing comedy. But when you started, he wasn't doing comedy at that time. Exactly. So, more listen. And when my backpack is, you'll get my backpack out of the car. I got the CD in there. I got to show y'all the case. Yeah, let's talk about the cause. T.I. is a, you know, if you met T.I., he come in, you know, he come in with that, with that, hey man, you know what I mean? He comes in, he's a very professional dude. But even from the time I known him, cause I knew him by a coupe, by the clothing that we see him. So that's the only thing that it was me and this nigga together. And, but I always had a mad respect. And I was a little mad at him about the flip thing. When I first met him, I was able to get past that, but it was like, damn that nigga, that's the nigga that did that with flip. Now I'm a Texas hard head. So, but as I watched his journey, I started to say this nigga bad, like lyrically this is a bad dude, man. And then business wise, I seen the moves as a dude from the south to come from where he came from. I started looking at the growth potential. And then he got locked up. So I felt sympathy too. I'm like, damn, my nigga gone again. You know? Because he came home and we flew to, we flew to the takers premiere when he was there. I was in LA. I went to LA and we, matter of fact, my wife and Tiny up there at the top on that picture. And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, we here with the boy. You know, he got the, he got the, you know, all these actors, that was my old boy to die. What was his name? Paul Walker. And all them boys was together. And I was like, man, it's going to be great for tip cause he just coming home. You know what I'm saying? And that nigga got arrested again right after that. And then the movie, in the movie, it portrayed him like as he was just getting out. Yeah. It was dope. And so when you look at what, where he came from and then being in that journey with him and meeting him all those times that we met, I always enjoyed his, his whole movie, man. And then, then what really helped it was people like Lisa, Ralph, Mike, Mark, Jerry, all of the people at RP55 group and the Jida guy, Jason Jida, whatever. Jason Jida. Yeah. All those people that was around him, I was linked with those people. So it didn't matter what he done, the group of people in that family at RP55 and the clothes that we was selling made me respect. And even Kenyatta, like they made me, I had to move with the movement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then they were posting me on the coup page. I wasn't popular at the time. They made a nigga feel like he was somebody dealing with him. So yeah, I always rock with T.I., man. I always rock with his entrepreneurial spirit. So let me hear the story on how come, how T.I. ditched you. Oh, I heard a little bit about, let me know what happened on that. The backpack is here. Let's talk about T.I. for a minute. He technically ditched me. Did he ditch you? He just inspired me to. He just inspired me to. You know what I'm gonna make it all, that nigga left you, nigga. He just inspired me to. He's a cool cat, man. He make you laugh because of his, boy, he showed enough pride for when he come down to his family and not trying to play by his name, boy. He a diss on that nigga, a hell of a diss song. That nigga a diss on nigga in a minute. That nigga can rap about a nigga, boy. Yeah. I'm afraid to tell you, so listen. So it was 2000, it was 2016. 2016. Yeah. I was rocking with him back then. Yeah, he was coming to Onyx for his birthday in October. Was that 2016, babe? No. When he came to Onyx for his birthday, like I never forget I was outside waiting on this nigga about two and a half, three hours. Trader Truth was out there. He the one told me that he was gonna come. He was gonna like plug me in with him when he pulled up. So when he pulled up, you know, he pulled up in the black truck. He had a driver, somebody was in the front. It was a girl in the back. And then, you know, he was in the, he was sitting behind a passenger seat. So he was like, all right, there you go. Trader Truth was like, there you go right there. You know, I'm finna let you holler at him and stuff like that. So he walked me over there to the car. He walked me over there to the window. So my is his birthday. So at this time, me and my homeboy, we was like wearing fox tails and shit like that. We're nobody wearing them and shit like that. So I had, went in the hobby lobby, bought this nigga like old exclusive ass case, put the fox tail in there and gave it to him as a gift. I was told him happy birthday and shit. And then I gave him my CD. The nigga looked at the CD, he chucked him to him and said, he was like, you sure you want me to listen to this? I was like, hell yeah, listen to my shit. So then he put the CD down in the gift. He put it down in the seat. You feel me? So when he got out of the car, only thing I'm thinking like, yeah, but when he get back in this car, he gonna look over, he gonna look over and he probably gonna tell this driver to put that shit in, he gonna listen to it and he gonna sign me in like two months. I was like, I'm gonna give him two months. Like he don't call me in two months. I know what it is, but I know he gonna call me. I'm like, I'm signing the hustle game type shit. And then the CD I did, it was his Urban Legend cover. Never seen the CD. But I just redid the cover. So this is why he chucked it. This the CD I gave him. In this car, best name since till. And T.I. behind? That's my face, nigga. No, in the back here? No, no, you, but you know, on Urban Legend, if you look up his Urban Legend album, it just like that. So you basically, you look it up for me. I'm from nigga, I'm from nigga. Yeah, yeah, this nigga here think, he think he fit to just go blow it. He got a hope of seed job. Cause when you see his cover, when you see the Urban Legend cover. I seen the Urban Legend cover. I done seen it, I remember it. You gonna see why he chuck him to his, look at that shit like, nigga, you sure you want me to listen to this? I'm like, yeah, yeah. You better be coming with it, nigga, to put your face on my face and be doing all that you doing. No, that ain't my face on his face. I went and actually bought all the shit he had on. Oh, and put it on. Oh, wow. Yeah. You went in the distance. I remember the cover. Let me see. You, you recreated the whole thing. Yeah, I recreated, recreated the nigga whole thing. That's how it was. Yeah, that's how it was. He put that whole together for himself, like this, but he thought he had a damn, what the hell is this nigga doing? It had a taken by storm, bro. I was talking at the interview tip and asked him and get you out on the phone and say, man, I still like, it was so crazy. You ain't talked to him about this shit? And we, I'm finna get to that. This nigga, this nigga don't, this nigga don't put, look, in Atlanta. I feels to tell this nigga, I get to talk to this nigga one day. Man, in Atlanta, this nigga is two time in Atlanta and it's two time he don't perform right after me on some comedy shit. Just coming in and working on this shit, you feel me? Let's talk about it. He don't remember it. He don't remember it. I ain't never told him, I ain't never told him this story. I ain't never told him he the reason I'm doing comedy. No, nigga, I'm finna put this whole up, nigga. Y'all do it. Gonna take a picture. You got two of these and this is the only one. That's my only one. Yeah, nigga, let me take a picture of this. This here is a Laris. Yeah, nigga, you think you just gonna get on a hustle gang with, yeah, nigga, you a hella. I thought that was the way in, too. But you didn't go at the, I liked the idea. I love the idea. I loved the idea, bruh. I ain't feel like that. That dope. I mean, I ain't gonna lie. I love a hustle. Yeah, if I show this nigga hummets, he'll sign me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That shit did not work. Yeah, that nigga got to sit here and that nigga did that. I'm a matter of fact, ooh, I'm gonna put his by, besides yours, nigga, this better be a hell of a interview. Yeah, you gon' see this nigga. Hey, I'ma tag that nigga. You ain't gotta worry about no more boss talk. I ain't finished the story part. No, no, I'm gonna be melding, nigga. I'm finna put it up, nigga. Yeah, y'all want it. You don't want it bad as my nigga want it. Me and Callum are coming through this. Oh, he ain't playing. Y'all niggas play too much. Nah, I was really out there. So let's go, what's the story? So, yeah, I give him the CD, like I said, he put it in backseat or whatnot. So like I said, on the whole time, I'm just thinking like, boy, when he get after this party, when this nigga get back in this car, I already, I just planted in my head, I'm like, he gon' look at the CD, he gon' give it to his driver, and he gon' tell the driver to play, and they gon' ride and listen to it to the hotel, and then this nigga gon' call me and like want to sign me. So I was like, I'ma give it, I'ma give it two months, 60 days. Man, niggas by nine months went by. I'm talking about, I'm depressed. I'm just like, and at this time, I'm looking at my girl, my baby mama, I just looked at her and like, man, bitch, I'm finna start talking about your ass. You got me fucked. Like, it's your fault, nigga ain't prospering. So I just wrote a whole bunch of material about like what me and my girl was going through, and then I just took that shit to an open mic. But before I went to the open mic, I was telling niggas at my job, I'm like, bro, I'm finna start doing comedy. Cause I always been a funny nigga. You feel me? Like people always told me I was funny, but I just didn't ever like know how to do comedy. And I remember watching stand up comedy, but I just didn't get it. So I was calling around different comedy clubs. They see like, who will allow you to be yourself? Cause I used to hear like, yes, some comedy club, they don't allow you to say nigga. Some don't even want you cursing. So I had to like call around different comedy clubs. Who will let me be myself? And the Arlington Improv was the only one like who let you come in and just be yourself. So I went to the Arlington Improv. I went up there like two weeks just to check it out. Cause like my first time I went up there, like I ain't go perform. I just want to check it out, see how this shit go. And all the comments, they get four minutes. So long story short, man, I went to the Arlington Improv, you know, like the state of that shit. And I seen how many people wasn't getting no laughs. I was like, bro, I can do it. Boy, I know I can make somebody in this bitch laugh. Like, they ain't getting no laughs. You feel me? So the next week I went back, it was October 17, 2017. You remember exactly that. Yeah. My first time ever performing. And like I've been performing ever since. So when you, I killed that bitch too. So really you, in your, in your heart, you think T.I drove you to comedy? Yeah. Cause it was like, he depressed you that much. I ain't want to, I ain't want to sign with nobody else but T.I. cause that was my favorite. He's still my favorite rapper. He's still your favorite rapper. I didn't want to sign with nobody, but hustle gang and grand hustle. So when he, when he signed with me. He ain't gonna get it. He gonna find a different career. Then I told myself, I told myself, I ain't want to be one of them niggas who's still trying to rap while they old. So I was like, I'm gonna get my, cause when I got out of prison, I told myself, like when I got out of 2012, I told myself, I'm gonna get myself five years in this rap shit anyway. And if it don't work, I'm just fine something and just so happening. Five years was up in 2017 and I started comedy. Damn. Boy, y'all tell you that's a good story, man. Like I said, I'll be seeing T. I see T.I. all the time in a lot of, like, he's still don't know, he don't know that you that guy. I never told him. I'm gonna tell him though. No, he don't know after this. I can promise you. I'm gonna tell him. That's crazy. But what's so crazy, like, I'm big T.I. fan. A big T.I. fan and like the doors that I was wanting to open up for rap, it's like all them doors opening up like in the comedy game. I don't think I would have ever been. What song did that that you song on your on your on that CD that sound like something like T.I. would have dropped? Switch it up. I got a song in the car. For years. He had he smashed a girl. You've been wanting for years. So the role, the role, not the role. I'm sorry to say the role of what's that do name? Man, I said the role because I was thinking but the dude that was on the the nigga that performed the other night when the artist that we be with him all the time. Transly. No, the one that he's on the OB. No, not the artist. Yeah, the one be with T.I. all the time. Drogue. Young Drogue. Drogue. That's more of my favorite rappers too. Drogue. Drogue. Drogue. Drogue. Drogue changed his life. Drogue hustle hard though. Drogue was with T.I. And he, I'm thinking of the time when you was trying to get on with him. Drogue, Drogue wasn't really in the picture. He wasn't in the picture then. Who was in the picture then? Somebody was in the picture. There was no new niggas. That's why I felt so confident. I was like, bro, I know I'm from the sound with hustle niggas. I'm looking at his roster and I'm like, bro, these niggas ain't hard. What was the guy that passed away? Dobie. Dobie was hard. Dobie. That nigga was hard. Dobie was hard. But that day during that time? Dobie was Grand Hustle. Yeah. That shit called Hustle Gang, that was like the new nigga. And that's what I was trying to be on because I was looking at it right. I'm like, bro, this nigga, Tokyo Jazz is probably about the hardest one on that bitch. And she a girl. You've both been on that thing. That's what I'm saying. And that depressed my boy. That's why we back now, nigga. But it's like it did not sign me. Pushed me straight into comedy. And you got, and so comedy is a thing where, okay, I had a phase on love on here. And one of my most viewed interviews, people think it's the Charleston right, but it's not no more. It's Michael Anthony. Michael Anthony from Florida. But is he from Florida too? Michael Anthony. No, he was from, he from where, he from where what's the name from? Yeah. He from where LeBron Jane from. But he. Acre. Yeah, Acre. But he with, he's with country Wayne. He's a tall ball hitter guy. He go with Roe on there. He the, he been on here. And that's my most viewed. And I'm saying this for a reason. That's my most viewed episode. But the reason he was on here was because phase on love has spoke on country Wayne. One of the reasons he spoke on, that's what made that go so viral. But it was because the, the comedians like y'all, you guys are doing skits. You guys are doing all type of stuff. And, and, but, but phase on was saying, y'all that don't make, that really don't make no money. Like, like they ain't got no real money. My friends are on the fourth list and this thing blew up. And I wanted to get your take on the fact of like, the transitional phase of comedy then and comedy now. Now Columbus Sharp was on the side of phase on where he said, and I didn't even put that out. Yeah, I didn't even put that out. He was like, yeah, they get residuals and they got moved. They got, they got a big bag for that. So where, how do you look at it? And when you look at the country Wayne, when country Wayne, Mike, come on, he said country Wayne making $407,000 a month off of skits. And just, just the fact, you got an internet present. Other people won't want to book you like. So let me know where you stand on it. How you feel about, are you trying to get into the new wave or the old wave? I'll tell you, listen, when I first started comedy, I was like strictly stand up, you hear me? And I was against, because I ain't had, when I came in the gang, I ain't had no guidance. You was against kids. I ain't had no guidance. So I was listening to the old school niggas. So I was- Who were the old niggas was you listening to? I ain't gonna say no name, but they older comedians out here. But you don't want to put them out there? No, no, no. But they weren't, they were sticking to their whole game too, and they weren't trying to move. And they ain't nowhere right now. So listen- But they weren't trying to move into this new lane. Nope, so listen, so, so I was like, I was on the shit they was on. I'm like, yeah, fuck all these internet comedians. These niggas ain't, these niggas taking the easy way out. And they ain't really out here in the trenches, here in the clubs and all. So I was on that shit. I'm like, yeah, fuck the niggas. So like when I first came in the gang, I was young, new. So I was on flyers, back to back every week, I was on the show. But then once I started becoming a threat, like niggas started taking me off their shoulders or whatnot. Then I just became one of them old Facebook meme niggas. Niggas just on Facebook all day, just posting memes and shit like that. So I'm like, damn boy, I gotta figure out what I'm gonna do. Then I started making little funny songs and shit like that. And to never do shit at work. When I made that video, that was my first time ever going viral. How many did that do? That bit did, like, I want to say like over at least, all the people combined who shared it, I want to say like over 30 million. Wow. Cause Snoop Dogg shared that bit, made it on the breakfast club. Congratulations. Like that bit with everywhere. You've been, this is my first time ever going viral. So it was like, damn, like, I can get used to this nigga. I need to like make a little presence on the internet, build a little presence up. Then I started, that's when I taught myself how to do skit. Cause I always want to know like how niggas was doing that voice over shit. They'll make a video. Then they had like a voice over the video. I always want to know how to do that. So then when I got the iPhone, it came like, you know, with our movie. And then I was like just playing on it. Then I seen some shit that said what, like the option voice over. I was like, oh, this is how they've been doing it. Then my first skit, it was about like me saying grace and God interviewing and like, he don't, like it was a voice from God. Like he ain't trying to hear that shit. Like, nigga, you ain't been praying to me. Now you get a little money to get some food. You want to say grace, not type shit, you feel me? So I had God like just going off on me and shit. And that had kind of took off. So then my whole mind frame change. I'm like, bro, the internet is where is that? Fuck me, what the old school nigga talking about. Nigga, nigga, the internet where is that? Cause I know like once you build a presence on the internet, that's when like the comedy club started calling. Cause it'd be a lot of, I don't perform with a lot of internet niggas like who blew up off the internet. And then they get them calls from the club. And then when I go perform with them, they gotta be on stage for like 45 to then an hour. And then it just bullshit. They ain't got nothing cause they come from the internet. Yeah. You feel me? But that's why I be telling people I got the advantage cause I started off at stand up. Then I transitioned to the internet. So once my internet shit build up and then the comedy club start calling, it's gonna be a wrap. Let me tell you something. I've been doing stand up, it ain't nothing. I went to see Bubba Dub man and Bubba Dub, he started off on the internet. That nigga show boy, it was packed wall to wall in that hole and he was trash. That nigga was nigga, that nigga was going in. That nigga 40 years and they loved it. And he did this, he did this for about an hour. So didn't he do that for a long time? For 30 minutes, 40 minutes. So he did his whole set. He had brought show love to all the people that was with him on his set. That was the first show like that that was ever sold out. Yeah, but that was the first one where he headlined it, I guess. I don't know, but I do know he went hard that time. And then he be booked all the time though. He booked everywhere. But it was just his show that he, I felt proud of him in that moment, man. And though, so I understand it can go both ways. Yeah, once you go out, you execute and shit. You got nothing to worry about. But when you go out there and you don't execute, you go to the thing and like, damn, I'll drop another video. These people don't like my videos still because they don't see your ass live. You ain't making a laugh or not. That shit really fucked with a nigga like, mental and shit, a lot of people give up. How did you feel when Will came up there and slapped Chris Rock like that, being that you be on that stage like that? Only thing I took away from it, I just hated that Chris Rock showed up with nothing but face. You know, he didn't have no mustache, no beer, no. What the hell is going on? No goatee, no, nothing. Like he was just ready for the drama like. So you think it was staged? Nah, I'm just bullshitting. The slap, man. Was it staged? I don't know, cause I don't slap the nigga. I don't slap the comedian before. All the stage like that? Nah, just on some other shit. But it just like, I'm gonna give it from like a real person perspective. Like ain't no coming back from that. Like Chris Rock, you trying to make jokes now and all this shit talking about you got slapped by the softest nigga that ever, the softest nigga that ever rapped. Like nigga, what'd that make you? The softest nigga that ever laugh. So like, it just don't make sense to me. And it was like, once you get slapped, bro. I don't care like how big your name is and only white people can like accept you and respect you and like, like trying to come back to the black community and all that shit. Like we just look at you. Don't you think he already had done already? That's what I'm saying. Like you've been left the black community. So it's like, that's why I don't, that's why I think like nobody really confronted Will. Cause it's like, I didn't really want one of them. The Oscars, dude. They say you can't come back for 10 years. Yeah, but nigga don't give a fuck about that shit. Like coming back to the Oscars for 10 years. Like, nigga don't care about that shit. But it's just like, bro, it's like, you ain't gonna never be the same again, Chris Rock. I get it. Everybody's gonna, like, whatever you do, you can have the biggest accomplishment in the world. But in the back of everybody's mind, like, and you let Will slap your ass, you ain't do nothing. Damn it, boy. What about, I gotta ask you top three comedians of all time, right? Top three. I got a top five. No, I don't do top five on here. Top three. Top three, I'm gonna go with Mike. Mike Epps. Mike Epps, Lil Dubaugh, and Adam Sandler. Wow, Adam Sandler. He's not getting there, no Will Farrell? No. Top five, Jamie Foxx. No, I don't wanna hear about that top five stuff, but I wanna talk about these top three though. I wanna talk about these top three. Why Mike Epps? Mike Epps was the first stand up I ever seen. Like when I was with, I mean, I was like 12 or 13 watching that shit with my auntie, my auntie, and she loved Mike Epps. And we were watching that stand up when he had on a baby blue shirt and he did a Montel, who the talk show was? Montel Jordan and Montel Williams. Which one was the talk? Montel Williams. And he did that Montel Williams impression and it just had my auntie dying laughing. So then ever since then, like I've been fucking with Mike Epps then, I think a little shortly after that, he dropped Next Friday. And then it was just a wrap and that. All about the men's of my favorite movie. I watched that shit. Me too. I love Mike Epps. Love Mike Epps, man. Then Lil Duvall. I met this little nigga. Let me just say that. Yeah, I always see Clay, his manager in the project. But you know what I met him right? Through T.I. Yeah, damn right. They been running, they came up together. That's the first time I ever seen Lil Duvall was in Vegas at the, I believe we was at the Seasons Palace. I got a picture of that nigga. He had dreads. Yeah, they had dreads. They came up together. That's why it's no surprise that T.I. wanna do comedy now. Cause it's like, dude, you been around that shit. I know that. And when I think about, when I met him, I think it was the old nine, 2009. And him and Lil Duvall was together. I remember when I told Lil Duvall, cause I seen Lil Duvall on comic view. And as a comic viewer, he was on BET. Just a little though. He wasn't, he didn't have a lot of buzz. But me and him, I said, man, let me take a picture with you. When I took a picture with that nigga, he said, T.I., I told you nigga, I'm getting famous. That's how long ago it was that me and him took that picture. But yeah, I been Lil Duvall, he my top three. Cause I been following Lil Duvall since 2000 when I moved to Jacksonville. You know, Jacksonville, Duvall is just Duvall County. Yeah, yeah. That's why he called it said Duvall. It's the county for Duvall. I mean, it's the county for Jacksonville. So when I moved to Jacksonville, sixth grade to 10th grade, that was like 2000. This nigga had dropped the skip. I mean, a CD, full of skip. It was called Rolling Power, That Boy Funny. I'm talking about, like, you know how these comedians be on the skis with the internet, but this nigga been doing that shit on DVD. I don't know first cause you got Richard Pryor, they was doing it too. But I'm talking about street comedy type shit. Like, bruh, I'm talking about this shit was in every body household in Jacksonville. This DVD called That Boy Funny. There were a number of skits on that bit. So ever since then, I've been following little Duvall since like 2000, that's why he my top two. And then Adam Sandler, I fuck with Adam Sandler because he my top three because he do, he doing what niggas wanna do. Like how you got your homeboy and all your movies. Like every movie Adam Sandler do, you gonna always see them niggas from Waterboy. That's what you remember them from. I remember that nigga from Waterboy, nigga with the laser eyes. Like he put all his homeboy and all his movies. He the LeBron James actor. And that nigga stand up funny. Like you go on Netflix and watch Adam Sandler stand up, but that nigga funny. Going in. And I judge niggas by they stand up like that. That internet shit, I don't really judge people on they funny by like the internet cause anything you seen on the internet or skit, you can do it, you can do it. Cause you ain't like, say like you recording and you don't like some shit. All you gotta do is just like, you know what, I don't like that and do it. Do it over. But on the stage nigga, it's just one take. You vivid. That's it. So that's why I judge people like, like if I, if I said nigga funny, it's because I seen it stand up and he made me laugh. Not cause I seen you, I watched your videos and you like, no, that shit no matter. I wanna go back to, I don't never do shit at work. What made you write it? Like, like, and what was the process? And what was you thinking, were you thinking to go viral with that? I wasn't, when I, I had an Android phone, you feel me? This was around the time when niggas stopped taking me out of their show. I had to figure out what I wanted to do. So the girl I was messing with at the time, she bought me an iPhone. It was an iPhone 6. Matter of fact, it was the phone. I showed it, matter of fact, this phone right here. This the phone. I still got this whole, you feel me? Cause I'm talking about work, them being put on this phone. So. No, it's a souvenir you, you're remembering the girl. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. So I seen that when I got the phone, I seen it came with an app called Garage Man. And you know Garage Man, that's a music app where you make beats, you record bass, you make songs on that beat, you feel me? So I was like, damn, okay, what I'm gonna do is, cause I'm always walking around the house just singing stupid shit to myself anyway. So I'm like, I'm finna just put this shit on. I'm finna make some beats. Now I'm tapping back into my musical shit cause like I said, I wanted to rap. So I'm like, I'm finna tap back into my music shit. So I'm gonna just make the beats and all this stupid ass shit I'll be walking around the house saying, I'm gonna just put it, I'm just put it on the song, but it just gonna be the hook. I ain't making no song, just gonna be the hook. And then I'm gonna put a video with it. So the first video I did, it was about like, how women break up with men. We really don't be caring, just like, make sure you leave us some money, make sure we good and shit for you move on type shit. So I dropped that video. And my, when I dropped the video, I had deactivated all my social media, you feel me? And I was like, I don't wanna get back on social media till I got 48 song. And the reason why I chose 48 song is because when I get back on social media, I wanna be able to post one a week for a year straight. You feel me? So I wanna come back like with some Prada type shit. So boom, like I say, I get back and no warning, no nothing. Like, hey y'all I'm back. Like, when you feel me? Like it was just straight Prada. So it's drawing and gauge. When I post the video, it's drawing and gauge, man. Like people liking it, people coming. But I never got caught in the hype cause I was always thinking about, but like, yeah, y'all think y'all like this nigga wait the next week. I got a whole year for y'all that wait the next week. So long story short, the third week of, I was making all these songs at work. You feel me? Cause I worked Monday through Thursday. I worked the third shift. That's crazy. I worked the third shift from 10 p.m. to 8 a.m. Monday through Thursday. So I'm making these songs at work. So I'm at work. I'm making the beat. So I'm like, I'm like, cause I like to create that work type of shit. So I'm making the beat. So as I'm making the beat, I'm just saying, I'm like, bro, I like, I don't do shit at work. I'm making music like you did. So now I'm like, man, I don't ever do shit at work. So now I'm just like, now I'm like, okay. Like now I'm saying that shit to the beat though. And like, I'm on, I'm actually on the fourth live. That's why that part come up a ride up and down you goddamn house. Like that's what I'm doing. I'm just making the beat, just riding up and down. I'm just stealing company time like a mother. So when I record that shit, so when I record it, I'm playing it bad and I'm riding around the warehouse just listening to it. I'm like, damn, that whole kind of hard like, because the video off in the post for that week, I was like, you know what, nigga? I'm coming back to work tomorrow with my pillow, blanket, all the problem. I'm just shooting a video on it, beating it up in the post this whole. So nigga, did you ever get fired because of it? They fired me. They fired me, but it was because of that, but it wasn't because of that. They fired me because I wasn't showing no remorse. Like I'm in the HR office. I'm bragging on the video. That'll go on. So they found out about the video? Yes, like it went viral. How did that? Look, so this how it went viral, like when I had posted the video after I had came back to work with the blankies and the pillows and shit. Like I have, I recorded the video, I'm like, oh, this whole kind of funny. Like I'm in the post this whole today. So when I posted it, I just posted it for my friends to see. So my mom, she was the first one to come and she was like, son, take this down. You know, somebody might be praying on you down for it. They might show you a job, whoop, whoop and all this shit. Then my home girl, queen and comedian, she double back right after my mom, she was like, bro, make this shit public. This is gonna go viral. I didn't feel it going. So now I got a devil and an angel on me. So I'm like, what's one I want to do? But when I made that whole public, like that why I'm here today, like that shit just took off. That whole shit. How long did it take for your job to find out about it? It took them like three days and I knew it. Dang, that quick? Yeah, and I knew it. Cause like I say, I worked from 10 p.m. to 8 a.m. and we had a six to two 30 shift. So when the six o'clock shift get in, like they air, they just looking at, they just looking, shaking their head like, boy, you wild, boy, I don't know what they talking about. So then when eight o'clock comes, like I'm about to get off at eight, you feel me? But that's when like, cause we had so many shifts. So when eight o'clock come, like right before eight, I guess eight chart, they made it eight business to come in early today. Like, yeah, I hear on the speaker phone, count them all white to the human resource office, please. Count them all white. You knew what it was then? But I knew what it was. So they were like, yeah, about this video. So I pulled it out. I'm like, damn, y'all see the views people said. That was going in. I'm bragging on the video. I'm like, bro, people saying this is national anthem. Like what y'all ain't seen? Instead of like, are you serious? But you didn't show the company's name or nothing like that, right? I had the shirt on. But you really can't see it. Cause we can wear what we want to wear. But I just so happen to have a company shirt on that day. And what did she say? She said, well, we're not gonna. That was like, we're gonna give you a call. We'll let you know, like what we decide. They didn't tell you to take it down? It'll keep you or not. So when they gave me a call, they were like, yeah, we're just going to have to let you go due to the fact you show no remorse. Like that's why they fired me cause I ain't show no remorse. You shouldn't, you celebrating. Right, they want to meet it. They want to meet it, man. I'm like, damn, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have did that. I'm in a bragging on the video. I'll bet at this time, everybody's like, damn. Plus then again, I ain't care cause I'm like, nigga, this Texas I got. I know how to drive all the Ford list. Nigga ain't shit to get a job by. When you, when you, did you, did they say anything? Like, like, take it down and nothing like that. No, they ain't telling me to take it down. So they just, they enforced the new rule, those no-self on, cause of you. Yeah, they made a no-self on policy on the floor. Man, I like it because you lived out your destiny. Now you're doing your dream, you full-time comedian. And a lot of people I used to work with, they still hit me and they're like, damn, boy, you doing it, boy. You're like, yeah, I know. Man, that's a blessing, man, that you even be, you was able to pull it off, man. And now, that same person that was HR, man, they probably watching you in the middle of your fame. Yeah, they probably ain't even in the middle of it. They probably a fan now, yeah. So you didn't get another job after that, right? Yeah, I got another job. And then with another job I had got, I had to tell people my name was CJ. And I didn't want to. Yeah, because anybody who hired you to see that, they're gonna be watching you like, you better not be over here doing this job. Why? I had a non-CJ now. I ain't wanna let nobody know my name. So how can people get a hold of you if they're trying to link up with you? I'm on Instagram at Calamon underscore white, that C-A-L-I-M-A-R underscore white. YouTube, the same thing, Calamon white. Facebook, Calamon white. TikTok, Calamon white. Wow. When's your next show? Yeah. My next show will be in London. When? You bet, the comedy show. I got a comedy show, do you ever do that? I be at a Monticello's, Cat's Cafe, the projects, place called the projects. That way, T.I. went up after me. He also went up after me at Sweet Lounge on Friday. Like every night in the London, it's somewhere to do comedy and that shit gonna be packed. Number, number, top three artists of all time did or live right quick before you get off here. Rappers? Yeah. Number one. No, any genre. Yeah, yeah, any genre, any genre. Top three? Yeah, top three. T.I. Wayne and Drake. I'm simple, man. T.I. Wayne and Drake. I ain't trying to go back all, like, you feel me? Yeah, T.I. Wayne and Drake. That's a good one. Tip number one. Yeah, Wayne and Drake. But T.I. always number one. That's dope, man. Dope, man. I can't wait for you to subscribe. I like this interview, I didn't know how it was gonna go. I can be real with you. I was like, this is a new interview. Why's got this nigga coming over here, or I don't know this nigga? Call him. I don't know this guy. Why? Who is this nigga, man? But I look you up and I- What's he gonna say? Call him on the rose? No, why? No, that's just- Oh, I'm gonna change the name? That was my first rap, man. Call him on the rose. Ooh. I got that. This nigga got a bag of CDs. They don't like this nigga, man. I got that CD here, too. Look, that nigga got a bag of CDs, man. Look, this nigga, it was a real rapper, nigga. See, that was my first- Oh, no, it ain't none of that, but- Oh, man, look at this nigga, man. I changed that, dude. That's why the- Babypitch only be, you know, really followed behind. That was my first CD, the Babypitch, and then the second CD, the H-Y-M. That nigga look just like- So, are you gonna be keep doing songs with your comedy? Yeah, I- Yeah, I still- Man, remember- Bring that into your skit, man. Do a Bobby Valentino. Hold on, you're- Bring it back, though. You ain't been doing that lately. Remember I told you before I got on the internet, I got- I wanted to have 48 songs? Yeah. Right. To never do shit at work, that was only the fourth song. So, why? I still got them in my phone. You ain't dropped them yet. You gonna drop them? So, what number- So, what number are you on? Uh... Probably three, because to never do shit at work, remember I told you I made that at work just on some like- How long ago was that when that happened? This happened. This song went viral like three years ago. True deal. So, because it went viral, you just didn't bother to drop anything else, you just let it do- I tried- Listen, that following week, I dropped another video. Nobody cared about that number. No, no, my cousin called me. My cousin, Jerell, he believed in the never do shit at work more than me. He the one paid for the copyright and everything. When I dropped the video, he was like, Co, what you doing? I'm like, nigga, I'm keeping it going. He was like, hell nah, delete that, nigga. We finna work this job shit, nigga. That's it. Nigga, that's a hit. You need to work that. And then when he said that, I just never dropped no more money. So, you get paid for that to this day? All the stuff set up, right? Yeah, we working on it. We finna do some shit with World Star. Oh, yeah? Yeah, they reaching out. They wanna own, they wanna pick up the song, but I mean, I got the song in another situation right now that I finna get out of by the end of this month. Damn, World Star, they gonna get behind it and take it to the next level. How long can a song go, you said three years ago, how long can a song go viral for? How long can a situation go viral for? When it first went viral. Without, you know, going dead. Yeah, when it first went viral, I had created a challenge. Like, you know, like the challenge right now. So people was doing the challenge, then people stopped doing it. So then I had to go on YouTube, typing in people, horse playing at work and then like screen recorded and put my song behind the magazine like they was doing the challenge. Then I just got tired of doing that shit. I was like, nigga, I ain't trying to do no fucking music. I'm a comedian. I'm fucked that shit. I ain't finna be pushing this shit. Then I just gave up on it. So about like, I wanna say like, eight, nine months ago, my home girl, she hit me up. She was like, you getting paid for your song? I was like, what song? And she was like, they never do shit at work. I was like, yeah, somewhere. I was like, why? Cause she was like, it's going crazy on TikTok, nigga. It's so many people doing challenges. I'm about to ask you that. Then I went on there. I was like, damn. I was like, damn. You're monetized on TikTok. Yeah, I am. Like the label, like we finna work some shit out what I got going on now. They owe me some money. But when I seen that, I was like, damn. I remember I was like, when I seen the people, like real people actually doing it, I was like, damn. It was like a couple of months ago, I was faking it. I was screen recording it. Trying to make it seem like people, then I'm like, damn, these real people, like this shit just fell in my lap. So then I just started saving it and posting it on my Instagram. Then it picked up on Instagram, like the real. It's like, I want to say like, it's like 100,000 people on TikTok that did it. And it's like 50,000 people right now. Instagram that's doing it. And you monetized on Instagram too. Yeah, and it's just picking up. This like, this ain't from three years ago, like, that's why I say it like, but like, I understand like hit song people be putting years in. Until they like pushing that shit, you hear me? Yeah. Man, thank you for coming on the show, man. I hope you enjoyed it, man. You did a good job. You a real interview nigga. Like you interviewed some people around this whole, man. You're like, you really gave us everything. I went to the penitentiary with you. The comedy show with you. Nigga, only thing we didn't do was find out what your favorite foodie is. What is that? McDonald's. That nigga love McDonald's. What's that number, three quarter pound? No, number seven, that two, three burger meal. That nigga, that three killing that thing. I just love their fries, that's it. That three killing that damn seven, nigga. That quarter pound, that three, I would, that's it. Nigga, please, which one you got? That's my middle school meal, man. Which one you say? I like quarter pound. Ah, that number three, nigga. You know, he looking for more food. That's my middle school meal, man. Nah, it's too cheap. Yeah, don't fill him up. Check it, man. Say, man, thank you so much. We love you, my brother. Man, you did a great job, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, what a boss is talking. Sir.