 Wel, rwy'n meddwl i'n teimlo i'r TV, rwy'n meddwl i'r newid o bai Rodg Sloeman, wedi'u meddwl i'r ffilm ymddangos. Byddai'n gweithio i'r ffordd o'r ysgrifennu, ac mae'r gweithio i'r ffordd o'r ffantastig ffantasig yma, o'r ddweud o'r Sain George's Hall, a fydd eisiau'r ddweud. Rwy'n meddwl i'r ffordd o'r ffordd, ac mae'n gweithio i'r ffordd o'r ysgrifennu, o blwyddyn yn nhw, yng Nghymru, de 我是 fel chnyfu, Musik sef yw ddiddo i'r ffordd. Mae ph dignity allynnid i g sprechenig om m aunquech ei wneud, a eGGor Aenech yn y gymwynt yw'r ysgrifennu, a byddai'r targe – a chenn i dda, mae'n dweud eich meddwl, gまあ yw 200 o fod o roi ferch provision, yng Nghaerdydd, fel ydy'r cyfnodd, y byddai. Yn y byddai yn y bydd yn amddangos, yw'r byddai. Yn y fwy o'r tynnu, y set yn St George's Hall, yma'r byddau Abertoni, yma'r byddai 85 o'r tynnu, yna'r byddai'r cyfnodd, yna'r byddai'n fwy o'r byddai. Mae'r ddweud o'r llwy yw'r cyflwyno, yw'r ffordd, ac yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch yn ei wneud, ac yn ystod yn enwedig yn gyntaf'r ymlaen ni'n blwyddyn i'r gymhreidio'r cwmwyntol. Felly'r cyfrifau eich bod yn ni'n gweithio'r cyfnod, ymlaen i gael y bwysig i gael y bwysig. A gydw i'n gweithio'r cyfrifau, mae'n amser hynny'n gweithio'r cyfrifau a'r hynny ydy. Felly mae'n gweithio'r cyfrifau. A'r cyfrifau,sterio unig am fwyfyrdd i hynny? Fy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwy fwyn lle oed yw ddweud i adon, a dysgu ddweud hynny, ar gyfernyddoedd i Llyfrfyn Pols Ffeisbwr, aau fwyfyrdd i chi, a byddwn ni wedi bod wedi y dweud wneud ar yr ei pryd wedi llwyddiad a'i wedi adon, oherwydd o ran hyn nhw'n gweini, a gweithio i chi ddweud yma, ac oeddwn ni wedi'i edrych ei gweithio eu chlasol affeaeth a'i gweithio i chi, a wnaeth i chi'n suried mewn cyngor, You see the feels as if anybody could get there? And then it was actually to create the event, That proved really difficult and then Karena Duffy the amazing Karina Duffy got whole of it and said, You know, I want to do something, Almost overnight we had St George's Hall. I've seen in the film. I know what building it is. I thought really we're going to go in that, so from that point on I was here Rwy'n rwy'n meddwl i'r gweithio ffordd ac yn y bydd yw'r cyflwynoedd yn cyllid yr Aeol yn unrhyw, a'r cyflwynoedd yma yn 650 ymgyrch yn ymddangos. Rwy'n meddwl i'r cyflwynoedd yn y byd, ac mae'r cyflwynoedd yn ei wneud, ond mae'n hyn o bobl yn 650 yma, yn unrhyw. Mae'r cyflwynoedd yn ein cyflwynoedd yn 678. Ac rwy'n ddigon i'w'r ei wneud ydych chi'n gweld. Fy jêng o'r chyffael, mae'r chyffael yNowysau maen, a bod chi'n meddwl i chi i chi fod â dardo, a rwy'n dweud bod gynnig yng nghymesnol sup a ni'n i tro. Mae eraill o'r cyffeyr, mae'n gyffeyr. Mae'n deud dangos gwyrddul, dylliannaeth, mae'n gofio'r cyffeyr i fgyffeyr i fgyffeyr. Rydyn ni'n gwybod ddechrau i fynd â ddechrau. Mae'r gofio'r cyffeyr sy'n gyffeyr, Derek Mountfield, not Derek Hatton. But the guys in that team that don't get a lot of fuss made of them now to have that man with John Bailey and half Kev Richardson who'd driven over that day and for them I just thought that must be lovely. Cos I thought it was brilliant. They were hooping and hollering and stuff, it was brilliant. I loved that. That was my favourite bit. Real appreciation for that team. You're right, I grabbed a bit of time at Kevin Hitton before. I'm not a lovely fella, absolutely. But a tremendous footballer by the way, but lovely fella as well and down to earth and Alan Harper and all. It was really good before the film started and they were all in the area before and where they were going. You realise when they're coming in they're seeing each other for the first time in several years. So that was really nice. There's a shot in the film that Everton put out of Neville and Andy walking into where I think they walked into a room to go and get the pictures done. They're walking together and you just thought that's Neville Southall and Andy Gray who are two of the biggest characters in that team who probably haven't seen each other very often because Neville doesn't come up that. So to combine them to come over and they were just walking and chatting and I thought you'd love to hear that conversation with you. It was to see them see each other for the first time in ages and then that moment where they walked in, that was brilliant. What was it like sitting at the front? Cos obviously you've edited the film, you've made the film, it's been on, like you said, the Liverpool Film Festival, it was on in fact, but that night you sat, you're at the very front, the screens there, you've got 600 odd Evertonians behind you, presser there, the players are there and the film starts. I mean my boys are neat, that bit in it. I didn't not see that, you know, you'd sent me a still. But to see that was, I had a lump in me, I thought it was incredible. It looks very different on the screen to when we were there. Yeah, when we were filming it, it was totally different. But so, very Billy Elliot, I thought, absolutely brilliant. It was like a feature film. You know what I mean? You know, sitting on Amazon, a drama or something, it was absolutely amazing what it was a drama. For you, it was great. For you to be sat there, what was it? Were you nervous, you had butterflies? Or were you just like, well... I'd seen it, I'd done, so I'd been at a screening at the Odeon the week before for the Liverpool Film Festival. I was a bit more nervous then because it didn't, that was when I was waiting for people to react. And actually there was actually a laugh, people laughed before I was expecting them to laugh and I was there with my editor that night and we were like, all right, they're laughing at that. So it's good. And then I'd done a couple of days before St George's Hall, I'd been at Facts, Gary Stevens was there and we did it. So from that sense, I'd seen it a couple of times, but St George's Hall was very different. Actually, because of the hall, the acoustics were very different. So I actually, rather than thinking, oh everybody's here, they're behind me, the players are there, I was thinking, oh I'm not sure about the audio here. So I was a bit, for the first couple of minutes, I had to get used to that and the pictures were, they jumped a little bit because they were playing it a different method to the way they played it in the cinema. So actually technically I was sitting there a bit fussy for the first few minutes, had to get over that. And then it's nice when people are laughing and I was looking across and seeing what people are doing and just a couple of seats away from me was a cheque called Austin Healy. You know, rugby player, I've known Austin a long time and I knew as an Evertonian, et cetera. And I just curious to see how he reacted and he was laughing at the right times and I was hoping that he was emotional at the end, just to see that it got to people who've seen lots of films and done stuff in their profession. So I was, obviously you can't tell what's going on behind you. So and I didn't want to just sort of turn around and look at people at moments because I know what's coming but you hear it and yeah, it was nice. It was really nice and the end obviously having done the two screenings beforehand I was aware at the end that it would probably be quite nice and people would come and I loved that at the end. People come in and saying thanks for doing that and that was when you realised what you've done because in essence, much as I wanted to make this film for ages and it was really important to get it right because as I've said before, if I get it wrong, I've messed it up for everybody. Nobody can go and make it again. You know, say oh well, we'll try again. So it was important to get it right and to know that you've done something that meant so much to other people. That's when it came across. 600 people in that room and it felt like pretty much all of them were pleased with it and that's the feeling at the end you think, all right, it's important to them and if it's important to them then it's important to me. If it's meant a lot to them then the fact that it has meant a lot to them means a lot to me and the 10 minutes after that where people were coming up and saying thanks for doing that because you never really appreciate when you're sat in the edit suite and you're making these little decisions or come out there or put a little bit more of that etc. In the end, it doesn't matter if I'd have put two more seconds on the front. It's not about that. It's about the overall feeling of the film ending and people remembering why they support Everton and coming out and being proud to be an Evertonian and realising that the bar is there and it should always be there. Yeah, absolutely. So it felt like when it finished and people clapped or whatever it felt like, okay, that's why we made it. I thought it was really well-paced. There was obviously a good storyline in it. We had Dave freely with the fan, the fan perspective, the players incredible, and it jumped to all different viewpoints. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. How good was Pat Van Denau? Van Denau, exactly. People who you don't expect have been in Pat's company a few times and he was awesome. I think doing that interview, doing the whole thing would have been pretty low on his list of priorities. But he did it and he's just great in it because he's not trying to be anybody else or anything and he brought a mixture of fun, not always intentional, the line about when he gets involved in the punch-up and he just came off a pitch like a panda. I knew people are going to laugh at that but at the same time, when he's talking about buying Munich and he gets serious, you can see in his eyes he wouldn't mess with Pat Van Denau. You wouldn't mess with that. A couple of those challenges were quite messy. The one against Luton. That's fantastic. You got Andy Gray, I loved him, I did. Nafty as you like. That was brilliant. The whole thing, one thing it did do was show me how unlucky we were, how close we were, we were an unbelievable team, how close we were to being the best. We hit the post and the cuff final at nil nil. It just takes a little nick off. Is it John Gibbon? I think it's Gibbon for Nick. It just takes a nick, doesn't it? It goes like that in. The milk cuff final, we were close to winning that. You do look and go. That's our history, isn't it? That's why we put the stuff at the start. The Brian Hamilton goal is one thing, but every time I see Brian Little's goal, a minute or so from penalties and maybe we wouldn't have won on penalties, but just clear it. Somebody clear it. Somebody clear it. It's horrible. We carry it, we do. We carry it on. What was the players' reaction to it when they'd seen the whole thing? Obviously, you get interviewed and you're doing your bits and you kind of know what you've said, but they don't know how you're going to pack it up. What was their reaction to it? Everybody was happy, I think. It was really important, because I knew that some people, because of the way we were going to introduce them, I knew that some people wouldn't be in the film until fairly later on or halfway or whatever. Pat and Paul Bracewell. Somebody like Paul, who I met down in London initially and then we filmed with him and Kevin at his place in Durham. Paul's lovely. I was really conscious that I wanted to make sure he had his time in the film. I know I'm sitting on Wogan and that people are going to enjoy that bit with Paul. I felt like, okay, everybody has a moment. Kevin Richardson has the Aston Villa in the cast. I really wanted everybody to have something that they could sit there and watch it on the screen. Those guys were not in the media all the time now and Trevor Steven made a good point about because of Heisel and what happened. Their profiles didn't reach their max, did they? Because you win a European Cup and it takes you to a different level. As a player and then your profile for when you retire, etc. So guys like Paul, I wanted them to enjoy the film and not feel that when they finish it, I wasn't really in it. Everyone was, obviously Gary Stevens had seen it before The St George's Hall and Trevor and Graham and they all were happy with it and Pat was terribly anxious about how he was going to come across but I got a good old bear hug off him after that. Andy Gray and Peter Reed phoned me a couple of weeks after it and said it didn't seem a particular reason for it. He said I just wanted to say thank you and that was Peter Reed. So the response from the players was great because it's important. It's important if I make it and everyone loves it but the players say I didn't like what you did there or whatever, it would have stuck but I think they were all pleased. Even like Alan Harper, it's unfortunate that his moment involves him being locked in a cupboard but there were a couple of things with Alan so I felt like it was important to make sure everybody had something out there. We did with John Bailey, Israeli people. People skate over John Bailey because obviously Pat fan that outcome and everyone in the league and Pat was such an imposing figure in that Everton team. He was the one to strike the whole part and if it kicked off he was in the middle of it which he'd represent well in the film. But for John Bailey to have his moment I thought that was nice as well and that was quite a... I was actually there when Dales was filming and I was there at the stories. Did he know Pat was going to turn up? Oh yeah, because Pat was sat across him and there's a second seat there but I thought they played that out beautifully. So John's got a future in drama I think. I thought he did that very well. You could do that, you never know. Obviously I said this to the players at the time I suppose the sad thing is that Howard wasn't around to see it. I said to you earlier that I spotted a couple of things I'd like to put in them. There was a line here or there from Howard. He did an interview before the milk cup final. He's got his tash which obviously you see in that picture where he's got the champagne but he's got his tash. There was maybe something I could have just squeezed in somewhere there where he talked about challenging Liverpool and he wasn't sort of saying it would be nice to get up alongside them. He was saying we want to go past them and he didn't say it neatly and precisely. But I think if I had, that would probably be a couple of lines of Howard I think would be nice in there. I thought like you said, without putting any spoilers I thought the film just ended nicely. You could sit there and go you put the 87 bit in and you put this bit in and you put that bit in but then it takes away then from what the story was and how long do you do it? I mean I could have sat there for five hours and watched stuff quite happily. It's a film and it has to have you start pointing. I think when I was in here last time I said we had to chop a lot out. So you're going to do another TV they were like the bits that didn't make it into the film. The thing is, I could do that but then we have to go out and get some more archive and it's just so expensive and we just don't have it. I mean I could in theory I could bit by bit put on the social media you know all the interviews etc. But the film was, for me it was always about the build up two and the season from 83.4 and then mainly 84.5 because 86.7 was a very different story it was a very different team. It was Patrick Great achievement. How that team, you look at it on paper. I won the league. But it was a very different story it would have taken me. It goes off in a different time. There was big changes wasn't it? 86 was quite a depression. I thought about putting Gary Linnaker's cut final goal and just then going down to black and leaving it there. I thought about doing that. You've got time to write down how you want to do it I did that. I must have done that 20 or 30 times the ending. I was aware it was going to get emotional and I wanted to lift it. Probably played with that more than any other part of the film because I wanted people to come out on a high as opposed to just leaving them feeling sad and the fact that they filmed what they filmed after Howard's funeral was a massive help. All the players said something Gary Stevens talked about being in Australia and still meeting Evertonian to remember him from that era and Paul Brace will talk about when he his comeback after being out pretty much for two years he came back away from home somewhere might have been Sheffield Wednesday and he came on and the Evertonians just gave him an unbelievable welcome that nearly made him cry but again you could put all of it in and at some point you just have to say right we're going to lose that we're going to keep that and it was just important to get the balance right at the end so that people came out not feeling too distraught. I think you definitely achieved that. For me it's a must for every Evertonian if you haven't watched it or you haven't bought it it's a lovely stock and filler. We had a moment in the fan park a couple of weeks ago in the fan zone where the guys were promoting the song Everton Forever The Music and I think Keith asked about 100 people in front of them and they were on the stage and he said who's seen Howard's way and if they had 100 people in front of them only about seven or eight hands went up and when they told me that I wasn't there and they told me that and I thought wow okay so there's a lot of people that maybe don't know about the film or haven't bought it and it's really difficult to market because we didn't have any budget left for properly marketing any TV advertising or stuff like that we haven't got that because I think that if you know about the film then you probably want to see it so it's about getting the message out there I think you've never told me you have to say that's what I would say without a shadow of a doubt you have to say it because it's easy it's easy to just think that Everton, for younger people that Everton is the team that's been in the Premier League which has never done anything really we've had a fourth place finish in that title too we've done this but you have to remember where your standards come from and for me that is the standard and that is what Everton should be trying to get back to as difficult as it is but football has that team proved and I think it's really the message from that time could be at any time with any club is that it looked like we were going nowhere and then 18 months later we were the champions and we were the best team in the land just a couple of things changing well it's a message for now there isn't it it can take one person coming in at the right time the right person coming to the club whether as a player or a manager and things can change and that's what we dream of don't we that's why we're in football if you actually stop and go all the reasons why something shouldn't happen you would never go to the game you'd save your money you'd go and you'd support your club because you believed that did you not think that the other night was just typically Everton Baines gets out and we went we're in the park end so it's right at it and we went absolutely mental and within five or six minutes you're walking out of the ground with your head down so you go from that to that we just can't have nice things not for long anyway we will because we're going to get back on that proof that your film proved that we can have nice things because you mentioned something there Brian Little Frank Lampard in the 1980 running on a corner flag in the last minute of an FA Cup semi-final with the goal that went at right angles into that just the ridiculous things that happened even when Howard was turning it Alan Hanson at Wembley the outball and we lose a replay but we did, we went on, we won the FA Cup we won the league, we won the Cup winners' Cup we were in FA Cup final season you've got to believe that things can change it's different playing field now but I looked across the park and what Dave done in four years other teams can do Manchester City and Sheena Watter and people like that and spent all kinds of money spending on that next year and the next minute a few years later they've got Pep Guard the all of the greatest Premier League team you've ever seen in terms of what they do so you have to believe all of the man's city money we've had less the city who won the league in 2016 and currently a second in the Premier League not spending that much money good side, good manager compared to Everton a Timpock club really compared to Everton but they can do it so you've got to believe and that again harp on back again and the whole point of this is he did it for our club Howard Kendall did it when we were in the Daltons he did, finished 18 a couple of years before and things like that a lot of heartache Billy Bingham, she should have won the league Carlisle United you look through all of that heartbreak and yet we were able to turn it and that was what we have to believe so as Evertonians make sure you buy this film either for someone in your family for yourself or get people get it on your Christmas list because he hasn't started doing the asslay yet so you know right it's funny at home because I think you know that the wife and I we invested so I'm sat there and I would be looking at the reviews and going oh that's a really nice one etc and my wife is just going oh that's great what are the sales figures and so she should be by the way you've invested your own money personal money into it so you should be and I think the least we can do because it's for me make my wife happy well listen we spoke about this seven years ago I've got a thing for you 2013 it was six years ago nearly and you were talking about it and I was like it needs making it's the most important thing and there we are six years later and you've done it and you've done an incredible job and I think us was blues need to back it one more question for you when are you starting the 95er yeah okay so you're still there yeah no you're really really is around the team of the that being an interesting project yeah there's characters in that team good characters in that team and from again very similar to Howard's side from a team that was staring you know relegation in the face almost not as incredible because he won the league but what Joe did in that short space of time and of course the story for that is as quickly as it is put together so there's a project for you in the future but for now there you go I mean I'm not gonna don't tell you Mrs Aisha by the way but for now we can get this still we can get it on Amazon can't we so it's in store HMV in the town centre you can get it from the two club shops you can obviously order it from Amazon I'm not sure when they stop sending it out for Christmas Amazon Prime next day next day so yeah and of course digitally you can download it from Amazon and Virgin and Skystore and iTunes so you know there's no excuse really is there non at all but put the link I'll put the Amazon link in the description below and if you've got any other links to pass to me I'll put everything below so just look below this video you haven't got it yet they'll kill me if I don't mention the music the music had I got the album last week 349 for 8 tracks number 5 on there is incredible a warm heart it's called I'm not gonna say what it is so you'll have to buy it but Everton Forever the song's brilliant but the music is excellent and it's going obviously supporting Everton in the community the People's Project and everything so it's a brilliant cause as well that's enough for the heart to say just make sure you buy Howard's way because it's massively important part of Everton's history and we all should own a piece of our history and especially with we're counting down the clock the plan and permission goes in for brand new more next week and all of that history took place at Godderson so let's keep some brilliant archive stuff in there stuff you won't have seen as well so get it, if you haven't watched it watch it, it's incredible honestly big thanks to Rob for coming to the time thank you mate I'll see you later