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Okay, Gloria was arrested on the 17th of June, 2021, you know, at Umutanzi, in a local government area of Umutanzi state. She was arrested alongside others, taken into custody. Then for the family, you know, started looking for her from hospitals to mortuaries. They couldn't find Gloria. Then until a man named Izujuku Okeke, who was arrested by IRT and detained at a tiger base in Oweri, came back and informed them that he saw Gloria in detention, that Gloria was there and Gloria was cooking for the officers because that place is an operational base. So they were sending her errands and she was cooking for them and also doing laundry for them too at the operational base, you know, at a tiger base in Oweri. Then the family went immediately to look for Gloria at the IRT office. And before this, they have been looking for her both police stations and hospitals and they couldn't find her. So getting to the IRT office in Oweri at Tiger base, they refused them access to see Gloria. They said they don't even know who Gloria is. But the person they were looking for was not in that office. The family showed them the pictures. They refused. They said they don't know. They have not seen this girl in their custody and she's not there. Then until the uncle, Kristen Okele, went with a colonel, an army IRT soldier to the base. That was when they provided the girl. So they called the girl out and they saw them and they took the girl back to the cell. That was the last time they said their eyes on Gloria. Then something then happened. At that point, an officer gave them a number and was not in communication with them and telling them that Gloria would be out, that Gloria was involved with IPOP that she would be out. But they need to pay some amount of money. So the mother who sells fried yam at Umutanzi was now borrowing money. The uncle sold the motorcycle and able to raise like 300,000 which they sent 200,000, 100,000, 20,000 to the accounts the officer provided which he sent to the uncle. Gloria was not released to them too. They denied them access to see Gloria. A lawyer came, they denied the lawyer access to see Gloria. Then they just held, they went there again to see Gloria. They said Gloria has been transferred to Abuja that they cannot see Gloria anymore. That was the last time they heard from Gloria. From June, July, nobody heard from Gloria until somebody now linked them to me and said that my mission can help them locate where Gloria is and what transpired. So we started calling the office, IRRT office in Abuja. We spoke to them on the phone, the DCP Tunji, this is the new IRRT boss. We spoke to him about Gloria. He assured us that he would investigate and he just took over our office to investigate and make sure Gloria is granted bail if she's detained at the IRRT office which will still have the record to provide it anytime. What are the charges against Gloria? Because I've seen different news reports. One said that she was arrested because they were trying to get her boyfriend who is an iPod member. They couldn't get her boyfriend. So they arrested her just to get her boyfriend and we know that against the police act. The police act basically says that it is wrong for any police officer to arrest someone in place of another. So is that the fact or is it, is she truly an iPod girl or an iPod spy? Also we're seeing, you know, what we've seen from the police statement that they are still investigating. Also, why do we have cases where rather than have their facts and evidence and come and arrest with those facts, the police go ahead and arrest somebody who's been in prison for 66 days and now they're saying that they are still doing investigation. What are your comments on these, please? Yeah, at the IRRT base, Pega Base Noweri, they told the Cornell, the family, that Gloria was arrested, was used as a soft target to arrest a man who attended her bed day, who happens to be her friend, her male friend, which they say, which they told the family. That was what they told them in Noweri. Not until the social media, the public adcry, that's where they now came up with the release. After 71 days, they came up with a press release alleging that Gloria is a spy girl to ESN and IPOB. So there was no statement of this before any, until the public adcry, they now came up with these charges. And again, we should know that Gloria has been denied access to family members and access to lawyers. If one of the IRRT officers in Abuja, our lawyers went there to seek glory and denied them access to speak to glory before they now release this press statement they released yesterday, being Sunday morning. So at the first time it was arrested in lieu because the user has a soft target to arrest somebody that's no, there's no issue about that. Because if they're looking for a suspect, they can use somebody to get somebody, that's what they did. But detaining her after getting the suspect is what we don't know. The police haven't even explained reason why they arrested Gloria. Until yesterday they released a press statement saying that she's a spy girl to the ESN network. Is there any way that these claims can be proven? You know, you're claiming that the police that she was arrested as a soft target or that she's a spy for the ESN. Is there any way that these things can be proven? And then also what exactly, what are the fears really with a lot of other people who have been arrested in the Southeast and simply tagged ESN members or ESN associates? Does that also shed light on those possibilities that there's a lot of innocent people who might be languishing in police cells without, you know, and of course simply just being tagged as ESN members? Yes, they are. I think last time a young man who worked with an oil company was arrested in Oweri, who came for the, uh, in Los Beria and was tagged an IPOB member, a known government, and later he was released after our social media ad crimes. So there are several, there are many Gloria out there who are in detention and tagged members of IPOB. So if Gloria committed a crime as alleged by the police, yeah, why not take her to court? All right, because she's innocent of proving guilty by a competent court of deletion, which is the, which is the court. So Gloria would have been taken to the high court, where her charges, charges would be read and she would either plead guilty or not guilty. But this for 76 days, we have not taken Gloria to court. So at this point now, we should be looking at, that means there are other people too who are in detention. Many of them are not only Gloria. Now there is a Chuku who, who informed the family about the whereabouts of Gloria. Today, no one, nobody knows where is the Chuku is today. And nobody even talking about the Chuku. We're not focused on Gloria. I think after Gloria, there's a Chuku's case, which will also be open to the public too. So there are many Gloria who are in detention today, and that is the fact. The issue here is the cells are not open to the public. The administrator said that a committed constitution can review, can visit the police stations to see the, and also interview them too. But these things are not being done. There are many Gloria in the custody, in the police custody today, who are tagged IPOB members. So we can wrap up. That's the true fact. So what, so what is the current situation with this case? I used to be in contact with the Tunji Disu. And it is also very mind blowing that police has the resources to move a, in court, suspect after keeping the suspect for more than 60 days, they have the resources to move that suspect all the way to Abuja just to ensure that the person is not released. It's just really mind blowing. So what is the current situation before we go and are you still in contact with Tunji Disu? Yeah. As of Friday, Tunji told us to come to the police station to, they can release that on bail. Then after her release, if she's needed, we can provide her, we agreed to bring somebody who can take her on bail. On Saturday, we went to see them to Tunji. Then Tunji now told us that the case is off from his hand, that the case is now before the first PRO, Francombe. We said calling Francombe to Francombe. See, today you are going to be picking our calls. One of them picked our calls, including the Tunji, they don't pick our calls. So at this point now, is now before the law, which the court, which the lawyers are working to see that something is being done for glory, which I mean, some things, I can just say it on air here, until we do the needful for glory. Not only glory too, but others too. The man who disclosed you whereabouts of glory, who was now detained. The man is an Okada man, an Okada writer who was never involved in anything. He was raided and arrested and detained. So the lawyers are working to make sure that glory gets out on bail. Then again, to the police too, should also bring off charges against that, if they have any. All right, Ariris Ngoan, thank you very much. Thank you. I really wish you had more time, but you know, there's some conversations that are just really, really hard to understand. Thank you very much for joining us this morning. Thank you. And we hope that, you know, she is released as soon as possible, more charged to court, and we will be speaking with you again. All right. And that's where we will be wrapping up this morning. Thank you very much for starting our Monday with us. If you missed out on these conversations, so you want to catch up, remember, it's pretty simple. It's at Plus TV Africa on Facebook and Instagram. Same with our YouTube channel. And at Plus TV Africa Lifestyle. I am Osaogi Ogbonga. I am Annetta Felix. Have a great week ahead.