 You realized, yeah, okay, we're all gonna be okay now because he's realized, don't worry. He's found the truth, the LJ truth. People wanna be neurodivergent because the only other alternative to that is being neurotypical. It just doesn't make any sense. Like, I think I'm trying to somewhat try to understand exactly where he's coming from and why he's saying the things that he's saying. But I think it can just be very much just summed up as general ignorance as like making judgments about something without, particularly understanding it. Whenever I do these reaction videos to people who are in the mainstream talking about autistic people, they seem to think they're doing autistic people a service. Like, oh, I'm doing the right thing by pointing out all of these difficulties and you're being offensive as autistic people for painting it this way. And like, I'm sat there and just sort of listening to them and like, you're not helping me at all. Like, you don't understand. You just, there's just so much ignorance. It's crazy. Yeah, again, it's what I was saying before, guys. It's what I was saying before. It's like, I'm doing the real autistic people a favor. It's like, just stop. Just close your mouth for God's sake. Yeah, you're autistic now what? It's I'm autistic now what? Today we're going to be looking at I'm autistic now what's video on you're not autistic, you're just privileged, which I imagine is a reaction video to an individual out there on the internet who is making some very strange or wild claims about autism. So I came across something on TikTok recently that annoyed me. Who would have thought it? I seem to be getting annoyed by quite a lot of TikTok recently, but I just felt like it was potentially worth responding to because I know a lot of autistic people, particularly late diagnosed autistic people. We sometimes face this kind of pushback from people in real life when we reveal that we're autistic. So basically a psychiatrist posted a video of kind of an autism test on TikTok a while back. Here's a test to see if you're autistic. I'll touch on that video a little bit later on. But first of all, I want to look at two responses to this video that were from two very different people who usually kind of hate each other, but then ended up agreeing with each other kind of ish on this matter, which was interesting. So first of all, we have a guy called LJTruth who from looking at his other stuff is usually quite right-leaning. But you're gonna have to be a traditional woman. LJ's TikTok is captioned, you don't have to claim neurodivergence to be special or unique. Just go do something important. Yes, why don't we all go do something important, like making TikToks like this? I mean, I don't necessarily like applying like particular sort of political stances upon people, but it does seem that there is a specific demographic of people who seem to think like the only reason people are going and getting autism diagnosis or like trying to understand if they're autistic and what they can do and such. Like they think that that's just an attempt to add something to their identity, to have like a label or like something to say, hey, look, I'm unique and special. And there's a few people who have that idea of what kind of like the autistic community is. And it's a wrong idea, like it's not the truth. Like it's definitely something that is important for both like self-development, the like self-advocacy for improving your life and in multitudes of different ways. It's a very wrong kind of way of thinking about it, I think. Let's see what he has to say. Here's a test to see if you're autistic. Don't take the test, you're not autistic. That's a pretty bold statement. How do you know? How do you know? It's like on the one hand, they'll say, okay, you cannot diagnose yourself or like self-identify autistic. And on the other hand, they'll say you're not autistic and sort of undiagnosed people. It's a very hypocritical kind of way of approaching things, I believe. A statement to make when you're posting something publicly and you don't know who's watching a video. Also, you hashtagged it autism and neurodivergence of chances are this is gonna pop up on a lot of autistic people's fees. I know, I know. You wanna think you have something that makes you neurodivergent because that will make you special, but you're not autistic. The thing is for autistic people, diagnosed later in life, often that feeling of being different, that feeling of being singled out, came first because even if you're not diagnosed autistic as a young person, you're still autistic and people can like sniff that out. There are studies that suggest people can tell if somebody is autistic, they don't necessarily know, but they are autistic, but they know. It's that whole thin slice judgment thing, 100%. People make very sort of quick judgments on who someone is as a person, very, very quickly based on indirect kind of cues. And I mean, I've experienced this quite a few times and it tends to be that, like I'm kind of happy about it to a certain extent because it does have the tendency of filtering out people who I wouldn't necessarily get on with anyway. Like it's usually sort of the more curious kind of open-minded individuals who don't do that as much. And those tend to be the people who I get on very much. Get on very much. Oh my God. Yeah. The speech apraxia is in full swing at the moment. Woodshed Furious has a posed question about this to my audience. All except one and a half responses when no, we didn't have to want to be slash feels special when we got a diagnosis. Yeah. And it's like for anybody in sort of going through life as an autistic person, like usually this kind of unique call or specialness that, you know, this person, that person was talking about, like it's usually, it usually brings us negativity. You know, it's not, it's not really something that is sort of positive to us quite often. Like it's not necessarily, I'm not saying that it's not a good or a bad thing or like putting any value judgment on the actual being autistic, but like people's perceptions of us can generally be quite negative. You know, things around like bullying and social isolation and sort of prejudgements, thin slice judgments as Meg brought up. What's everyone's feelings towards her? I really enjoy her content. Well, yeah, it's good. It's good. I haven't seen this one. I only had my pre-workout autism rookie mistake. Oh, by the way, guys, now that woodsheds in the, in the chat, I have, woodshed did release a video of us doing a podcast together. So it's the woodshed theory YouTube channel. If you want to go, go check that out. It's a really good interview. I highly recommend it. Of course, no, no, no sense of bias here. They know something is different about them in a split second. If you don't have the label of autism, you'll likely have been given other labels throughout your life, like weird and freak. You might have been called the R word. Late diagnosed autistic people have often spent their whole life feeling like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole, as they say. So it is a relief to find a label for that feeling, to find a reason why you have always had that feeling. Seeing that. Yeah, well, it's also a tool for self-advocacy as well. Cause if people make those characterizations of you, you know, it's very much the case that they are singling you out. They are like discriminating against you because you are autistic, cause you're different and your presentation is not what they kind of see as normal, you know? Good evening, hello, Tracy, lovely to have you here. Hello, Emma. Oh, nice to see you, Emma. How are you doing? Hello, Isabella as well. Everyone's, we're getting the whole party here. We're having a good old jolly time today. I feel embarrassed about telling NT people I'm autistic because of the negativity from them. Yeah, I think it's usually like you've got to be, if you are going to do that, you've got to be somewhat primed to answer a lot of questions. And like, I'm not always primed to answer a lot of questions about autism. I quite like educating people about it and sort of helping people understand, but sometimes you're just not really in the headspace to be questioned about your identity. Seeing the many videos on social media like this one that romanticize and trivialize things like autism or ADHD. I don't know, I get the impression that some people feel like anything that isn't a meltdown, isn't an autistic person in extreme distress is romanticizing and trivializing. And get everyone thinking that they have these disorders made me realize what's really behind this phenomenon. You realized, yeah, okay, we're all going to be okay now because he's realized, don't worry. He's found the truth, the LJ truth. People want to be neurodivergent because the only other alternative to that is being neurotypical and nobody wants to be typical. A lot of autistic people at least desperately do because nobody wants to be ostracized, nobody wants to be outcast. It doesn't make you feel special to be excluded from the group and to be called out for negative reasons. I can tell you that for sure. Everyone kind of has this intrinsic desire to be unique or have something about them that separates them from average people. I just want this guy to just stop for a second, call up his family. Man, like, I think the issue there is that like a lot of people who are online who are autistic like pretty frequently talk about the fact that all autistic people are very, very different from each other. I don't think anyone's like, I understand where he's coming from with this train of thought but he's just so ignorant to the reality of the situation. Autistic AF says disclosing to someone that understands like in a group is easy, disclosing to anyone else is so difficult. Like you said, gotta be in that educational zone, 100%. Can you be mid-divergent? Oh my God. Not too bad Emma, it's lovely to have you in the chat. Hello Ilja. Hello Samuel. Fugisa says I tend to do the resting beef face when people come with nonsense just to annoy me or hurt me nowadays. I'm sorry to hear that you still experience that though. Like I feel like I don't really receive much of the brunt of people's sort of judgments. Like sometimes if I'm in a group and someone makes one of those sort of thin slice judgments about me, it's not necessarily, it's not like they'll necessarily say something to me but they will talk about me or they'll like treat me just like a little bit different to the other people. That's usually how it comes up but I imagine that for a lot of people there might be some kind of more in your face sort of discrimination, you know. It's somewhat a privilege for me I guess that I am quite tall and large and a man and have a beard, you know. I think those factors do a lot to kind of deter people from being sort of directly quite offensive. Does mid-virgin equals a little bit autistic? I think it's a joke in there. Tanwin says hello all. I wonder if these people have actually spoken to any autistic people. Yeah, exactly. This is very like, they're very much as I'm autistic now, what's saying, as Meg's saying, like there's very much people who tend to be sort of on the right or even some people who are like particularly sort of moderate I guess in their views. Do tend to see things like that, trends like that as being like trying to be unique or trying to be different or quirky or like. I think they've confused autistic content creators who are trying to sort of reverse that, to reverse this kind of negative view of autism so much as representative of like everybody's thoughts and feelings, you know. Don't know if I'm very much explaining that very well, but this is pretty much like an example of the paradox that a lot of people who engage with others online or in life experience where, you know, if you talk about autism too negatively, people are like, you know, you're trying to get attention and you're trying to like paint yourself as a victim or something of that nature. And if you talk about autism too positively, you're romanticizing it, you're like painting it as something beneficial for people to have, you're misguiding people, you know. These are all sort of mainstream kind of reactions that people can have in my experience. I do a lot of masking because of the discrimination, yeah, exactly, that's one thing that, you know, I understand that. Family and tell them that he thinks he might be autistic and then just see how special they make him feel. I would say that 80%, at least 80% of the time I share my diagnosis with people in real life, even people who can see my medical record right there in front of them, unless it's family, unless it's somebody who knew me when I was very young, I have a negative experience and there is a huge air of, I don't believe you. It doesn't make me feel special at all. I feel like I spent my entire life, I don't know if anyone can relate to this, my entire life searching for this answer and then I finally found it. I then did the right thing as a lot of people would say and went and got myself an official diagnosis and now it's just like, I can't do anything with that information. That's how it feels sometimes, not entirely true but that's how it feels sometimes because people have such little understanding of what autism actually is that I feel like I might as well just be speaking a foreign language or saying a word that they've never heard before. In fact, maybe that would be better. I understand myself more and there's a wonderful online community here and you could say that that community makes me feel pretty special and happy, yeah, that's true. In my online bubble, everything's wonderful as soon as you step out into the real world that bubble pops in your face. Before I continue today's discussion of the TikTok nonsense is brought to you by the Paired app and as it's a relationship care app, that means I get to have Lewis back on the channel and my husband, fun with it, we really have. But the problem is to be special and separate yourself from average people, you actually have to do something special or important and that's hard. Not everyone can invent a new thing or have a desirable skill. Well, it just doesn't make any sense. It's like, well, why are people fighting against like the concept of special needs? Like, if we didn't, it just doesn't make any sense. Like, I think I'm trying to somewhat try to understand exactly where he's coming from and why he's saying the things that he's saying. But I think it can just be very much just summed up as general ignorance, as like making judgments about something without particularly understanding it yet, you know? And we see that a lot. Like, whenever I do these reaction videos to people who are in the mainstream talking about autistic people, they seem to think they're doing autistic people a service. Like, oh, I'm doing the right thing by pointing out all of these difficulties and you're being offensive as autistic people for painting it this way. And like, I'm sat there and sort of listening to them. I'm like, you're not helping me at all. Like, you don't understand. You just, there's just so much ignorance. It's crazy. Skill or have the desire to work hard to put themselves above the rest at a certain practice. But everyone still wants to view themselves as special. And the easiest way to do that is to claim you have some sort of intrinsic attribute that makes you different. I frankly find it quite insulting that you think the only thing we could do to be seen as special and valuable by society, the only thing that we have to offer is to pretend we have a neurodevelopmental disorder. Autistic people, including later diagnosed autistic people, like obviously, you know, we're trying to fight this like every autistic person's a genius stereotype. But a lot of us do have skills. We have spent a lot of time honing our skills in particular areas. We don't need to pretend to be autistic. But one thing that does help you to reach your potential in life is to get accommodations for any disabilities that you may have. I personally did very, very well academically, but I had to leave college when I was 17. Had I been diagnosed by the time I was 17, God knows what my life would have been like and whether or not I would have been able to stay. I imagine probably they would have been able to help me a lot more than they... Yeah, I mean, I really struggled when it came to university. And I think it's just a lot to do with those accommodations, you know? I think, you know, there can be some content out there which does sort of have more of like a positive focus or have like a positive lens when it comes to talking about autism and neurodiversity and things of that nature. But like usually in those cases, people outside isolate those particular videos. They don't necessarily look sort of beyond, look onto their channel, their page and see like the numerous other videos and posts that they've made, talking about how difficult some aspects of life are and like how to better yourself and how to improve yourself in various different areas in life. It's not kind of this fashion label. It's not a glamourized thing, you know? I would argue that even in the cases where people are talking about autism in a positive way, it's usually to add some level of nuance to it, to add some level of like acceptance, self-acceptance, you know, to offset these feelings of isolation and alienation that we experience, you know? Strange that, isn't it? I mean, people seem to know people that are trying to be trendy, but where are they exactly? It's just a generational thing. I don't know. Hello, Ned, welcome to the chat. How was she in college at 17? I don't know. Is Meg UK-based, US-based? Because usually like in the UK, I think from the ages of like 16 to 18, it's kind of like this transitory period and that's where we go to college. It's kind of like an extra qualification before we go to university, you know? University for us is like the college in America, if that makes sense. Tracy says, I don't want to be seen as special, I just want a simple, quiet life without drama, 100%. Witchhead says, I did have a lady tell me she works at a school and the kids in the school will pretend to have ASD or ADHD for attention and that is trendy, but I've never seen this in person. Well, I think a lot of kids like, yeah, I would doubt that as well. I think that there are a lot of perhaps children and teenagers who may sort of engage with it with that kind of side of things, but I think that it's a very large minority of people. Like if you talk to any autistic adult, I don't really see that replicated for adults, you know, take anything in life and teenagers are gonna kind of adopt things and like, you know, it's just kind of this stage in their life where they're trying to understand themselves and find stuff out about themselves and it's very much kind of a transitory stage. And the thing is, they could be autistic or ADHD. That's the thing like, you don't know. Oh God, I hate the term special needs as a general thing. Yeah, I think that's a feeling that a lot of people have. It's usually termed additional needs nowadays, like in schools, just the KF says, so what's the worst case if someone claims to be autistic and isn't? They are mistaken and get to learn a lot along the way. Maybe they'll have a better understanding afterwards. 100%, I would definitely say that I agree a lot with your takes on that. Exactly, you know, just increasing visibility. I think one of the difficult things about content creation in a sense, like when you're trying to open people's eyes to the possibility of being autistic, like you're inevitably going to come across as more relatable, which, you know, it serves the purpose of, I guess, getting people to think about it more, but in other people's eyes, it kind of, in their eyes, it's sort of watering down what exactly autism is, which is not that. It's just, you know, autistic people, because we are humans, will obviously relate to other humans whether they're autistic or not. It's just true. For Guy says, I think understanding yourself better is what it's about. A lot of these sorts don't like it when people attack them, maybe they should think more. Hello, autistic page, lovely to see you. Nathaniel. Peter says, a friend who is a psychologist actually told my partner yesterday that late diagnosing of adults is kind of like a fad. A fad? I was shocked. Is it overdiagnosed? I'm doubting my own diagnosis now. Don't listen to it. Don't listen to it. It's, yeah, it's, these are kind of like the mainstream sort of assumptions, which are very heavily based in ignorance in my experience. More than they did. If you want people to be doing special things out in the world, it's probably a good idea to kind of meet them where they are and offer them a bit of extra help. To be honest, I'm sure me staying in education and then going on to get a degree would have probably looked a lot more impressive and made me seem a lot more important to most people than me like suddenly turning around in my mid-20s and plot twisting everyone with amortistic. Some people on this app do it with their virtue signaling and showcasing their all-encompassing compassion for oppressed people. Yeah, we should throw away the compassion and just make TikToks like this one. That would be good. Probably just keeping into range by here completely. I don't even know how much of this stuff this guy really believes. Others will do it by... Yeah, it's like the whole thing of like, oh, you shouldn't be kind to people on the internet. There's not the place for it. It's like, what are you talking about? Why are you trying to reverse this? What is wrong with being nice? I don't understand. This is the kind of, this guy's kind of like the type is like, you gotta be strong, you gotta hold frame and you never give in and you never think about the other side and perhaps share a little bit of sort of normal levels of compassion towards people. But by claiming to have a disorder that makes them different because they have one or two symptoms that maybe potentially possibly could be related to that disorder. The reality is it's not easy or common to be viewed as special and important and socially valuable. It would be lovely to live in a world where being open about your disability made you more socially valuable. But I can tell you, we're not living in that world yet, which is not. And the people who are seen as such usually have merit to back it up. If you want to be viewed as someone who stands apart from the crowd, you actually have to do meaningful things that make you stand apart from the crowd. You're not special just because you claim to be special. Does he realize here that the word special is actually often used as a derogatory word against what is the people against? Disabled people in general. I don't think he's saying it to be insulting. I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is like, it's kind of ironic to be using that word as if people will see you as special if you say you're autistic. Yeah, yeah, they might do, but not necessarily in a positive way. There is a lot of stigma attached to this diagnosis. When you're in a little TikTok bubble, it might all seem great, but that's why that TikTok bubble exists because people don't find that sort of recognition and support all the time in real life. So they turn to these communities of like-minded people. I just want to add here that I don't think it's impossible that someone could fake being autistic or that they could be misled into thinking that they're autistic when they're not. I'll come back to that a little bit later on in the video. Okay, so you might think whatever, this was just a bit of- No, exactly. And I think that's something that can be applicable to pretty much every diagnosis. Like even when it comes to diagnosis of like mental health conditions, like when they actually come up with a diagnosis, they come up with like the criteria for that diagnosis. The way that they sort of verify it is like something that can be sort of translatable to multiple psychologists and diagnosable by multiple psychologists is the consistency at which they diagnose people correctly in like a sort of a testing phase. And that criteria is not always 100%, you know? And I think the difficulty when it comes to autism diagnosis is that there's no kind of solidifying test and there is a lot of factors involved both socially, both based on perhaps stigma and knowledge that the diagnostician has. Things related to like autistic masking can be sort of a big red block for some people. Like, and even stuff when it comes to like culture, like the culture around the diagnosis, what the medical system is like in any said country, there's always gonna be some layers of gray area, you know? And I think that the most important thing is that the individuals who need support get the diagnosis and are able to kind of transform their life in a positive way, you know? Like there's obviously gonna be some individuals like that and it's like people can fake anything if they wanted to. They're just, you know, you just, you can't know. You can't know. In order for people to diagnose you, you need to, they need to look at you and need to hear you and listen to what you're saying, you know, there's always that kind of barrier there. But to de-legitimize a lot of individuals, particularly late diagnosed individuals, I think it's a very poor thing to suggest. Considering the sort of the rates of like imposter syndrome considering like the amount of misdiagnosis, the amount of people who sort of go through life undiagnosed and not knowing about this. A bit of stupid rage bait. Why are we even looking at this? Just ignore it and hope it goes away. But I was a bit surprised by this response from this other guy. They usually have a bit of a feud going. They seem to not like each other. So it was like quite a shocking thing, you know, that they agreed with each other. There were people commenting like, this is enemies to lovers. This video is hashtagged neurodivergent, ADHD, autism, privilege, liberal. No, I know. You want to think you have something that makes you neurodivergent because that will make you special. Okay. I am, I am going. I am going to... Kind of! Right. Does that not sound exactly like hang green? Okay, clearly I'm not the only one who thinks that good. Agree with LJ here. Don't get your goddamn hopes up. Today I'm going to approach this from a slightly different perspective here because this did remind me of something that I've been thinking for quite a while, which is that it seems like quite a lot of people, particularly white liberals, will very often take on all these different queer and neurodivergent labels, not for any genuine reason. The main issue I have here is who gets to decide when it is a genuine reason? How do they know? Who gets to make that decision? Why do you think that you're particularly suited to tell genuine from non-genuine reasons? And you must think that you can. You must feel like you've sniffed out some non-genuine queer and non-genuine neurodivergent people out there. Otherwise you wouldn't think this was an issue worth talking about here. What are you basing this on? This guy, Yuval, he makes it clear in other TikToks that he's not against self-diagnosis, so it's not self-diagnosis versus officially diagnosed that he's talking about. I'm going to give everybody a full proof method to see whether or not you actually have ADHD. Go look up a list of symptoms of ADHD. You can find a million of them very easily. And then look at these symptoms and ask yourself, do you experience a number of these symptoms at a frequency and at a severity where it is having a regular impact on your life? If the answer to that- I think this is a bit of a difficult one because it's kind of this whole conversation what he's talking about. It's very much reminding me of like, of course, like a lot of diagnoses that are out there in the world, like they're there in order to diagnose problems, you know? But the thing is is that not every single individual knows that they are having issues in life in certain areas because they think that everybody else is having the same experience of life, you know? Do you know what I mean? Why are they always obsessed with the color of humans that's so annoying? Are they obsessed with the outside and the inside? Everyone is not a little autistic. That's very true. Spectrum is wider and deeper than before, I think. I hate the idea that any kind of basic accommodation slash awareness is woke, virtual signaling. Yeah. Wearing when the comments like that come from people who are professionals. Yeah. Exactly. Sounds like a DWP assessor. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, it's that whole conversation about, you know, on one hand, perhaps people who are at a stage in their life where they are kind of doing well and they've sort of made their own adjustments, you know? Perhaps at some point, they might need that diagnosis. They might need awareness of it in order to perhaps understand or sort of solve problems that they may be having in life. And also, like, I understand that the medical system is there to diagnose problems and to offer solutions to them when it comes to particularly about disability, you know? But what about people who just want to understand themselves better, like make improvements to their life, not necessarily fixing anything? You know what I mean? Like, I understand the way that the medical system works, but, you know, perhaps if people just find, you know, perhaps they may be autistic. Like, I know quite a few people who are autistic, undiagnosed, like very clearly autistic. They don't have any issues in life. They've been doing well, they've got a job, you know, they've got a friend group, they've got a partner, life is good, you know? Not really any sort of dysfunction happening in their life. Like, would you say that they're not autistic because they don't have any dysfunction? Seems a bit strange. I think that's why we do have that self-identification. You know, I think that that's one of the important things that it allows. Doing great work here, Tommy. Oh, thank you very much. Oh, are you talking to me? Or are you talking to, oh, Tommy? Okay. A lot of autistic people are also LGBT. I went to a charity for young LGBT people and around 50% of our young people are also autistic or ADHD. Yeah, there is a big crossover with that. True, I thought it was normal to feel constant anxiety in my body when I was a kid. I relate to that so much, really. To that question is yes, then you might have ADHD. I have a great body to talk about. I need some examples. Where are these non-genuins? But because in my personal opinion. Again, this in my personal opinion thing is kind of just as bad as LJ's having a realization based on nothing, just because it's the LJ truth. They cannot stand the idea that they might be privileged. And it really seems to stop me fast that many of these white people have what seems like quite a strong desire to relate to people of color. And so they feel as if they have to be oppressed by something because, you know, God forbid they are the same type of person. I've heard this type of rhetoric before. I've heard this before. Like, it's a form of us trying to accumulate some form of like oppression or victimization. It's absolutely bollocks. Person that everybody on the left is talking against. I can't speak for anyone else here at all. So you'll have to let me know what you think of this. But personally, my journey to discovering that I'm autistic was way more selfish than that. I wasn't thinking at all about any of the marginalized groups that I care about. I was just thinking about myself and my own life and my own history. I would also never dare to think that me discovering that I'm autistic would give me any more insight into the experience of being black or of being a person of color. I don't know if that is something that people do. Maybe I'm just, you know, not exposed to that. But again, there aren't any examples given in this video, so I can't. No, I think this is just one of those characterizations that I have seen some of these before as well. You're not alone in that, Meg. Yeah, it's like, what are you talking about? How exactly does that translate? Social victimhood currency. That seems to be the lens at which these two sort of TikTok creators are taking. Mr. Glitch shows, I think, neurodivision people just don't like to see things like sexuality in the usual, anti-black and white. Interesting. How can he conflate these two unrelated things? I think it would be good if more who we missed were diagnosed, then maybe they realized there were a lot more people in society need abominations, I mean accommodations. This guy acts like he's not speaking from a place of privilege. I mean, I don't particularly want to get into a conversation about privilege. I think this is obviously a statement of people who are outside of the communities who don't particularly understand exactly what they're talking about, making sort of wild characterizations based on very, very little knowledge other than personal feelings and judgments. I can't really respond to that. The thing is, aren't people mainly speaking out against cis white men? And when you search, you search actually autistic, which is a hashtag that a lot of autistic people use. When you see that hashtag, do you not see that many cis white men pop up? And there are many cis white men who also slipped through the cracks and didn't get a diagnosis, particularly those who've masked a lot. It's definitely not always super easy for men, but there's a hell of a lot of women, too, because it used to be believed that autism was a lot more common in men than women. And we're starting to... I mean, to me, it feels like there are more there are more female content creators out there than men that I've seen, you know? That's the impression that I get. I mean, it might just be that the fact that I'm on Instagram, you know? You know, yeah, actually, to be honest, thinking about it, probably looking on YouTube, I think there's probably more men like on that. So I think they did some surveys about the proportion of men to women sort of on various social media sites. Yeah, I don't know if this is right. I think that there definitely needs to be some more work being done because a lot of the diagnostic criteria is where based around white men, white boys, I think the issue we are speaking of is that there is a real group of people who wish to be part of an underprivileged group like this one on its cruise up. Those who are actually part of the group. I think that's that's the. The lens that these these two individuals are talking about. Time to brush off my YouTube channel, then. No girls get clicks. I don't I don't think that's the case. I think it's just the ratio of people who are on the sides wanting to see these ratios shifting a little bit. So a lot of the late diagnosed people are women or just not cis white men. So surely if we wanted to be marginalized, rather than going to the trouble of faking neurodivergence, wouldn't it have been a lot easier for us just to be feminist and, you know, speak out about sexism? I also wonder how all of the people who are not white watching this video feel because obviously it's not just white people seeking an autism diagnosis. This is another quite harmful stereotype of autism that blocks people from getting a diagnosis, that it's a white person thing. It is definitely frustrating because these people do end up delegitimizing those people that actually fall under no labels. No, what I think is frustrating right now is how the general public think that they get to decide who legitimately falls under that label and who does not. Yeah, again, it's what I was saying before, guys. It's what I was saying before. It's like where I'm doing you. I'm doing the real autistic people a favor. It's like, just stop. Just close your mouth for God's sake. What I do see is a lot of autistic people being told that they're faking being autistic for attention. Chloe Hayden recently decided to take herself off social media. Someone else is running her social media now because she was accused of mainly faking being autistic. She was diagnosed when she was 12. She's 26 now. She's been posting on YouTube about autism for seven years before it was trendy. But people didn't bother to look at all that. People didn't bother to research her background or go and read her book that she's published or anything like that. They just looked at her and to be honest, I think when female wears makeup, can't possibly be autistic. She's faking it. People so often decide that people of a certain age, gender or race just don't make the cut and they're not autistic enough. Maybe could be to do with cognitive dissonance, which is the idea in psychology that it kind of hurts people's heads to let whole two contradictory ideas in their minds. So in order to avoid that mental stress, they'll just try and make everything match up with what they previously believed. So if the only autistic person you've ever known is your five-year-old nephew who's non-speaking and then suddenly there's this 30-year-old woman in front of you and she's saying she's autistic and she's just been diagnosed, that might be a little bit confusing. It might be. I like that. That is a very, very good point, Meg. I didn't think of it as sort of framing it in the aspect of cognitive dissonance, but it makes sense. Like, people are lazy thinkers, naturally. Like, there's not a lot of people out there who are very happy to, like, confront preconceptions that they have or ideas, you know, sort of change and shift it. Hello, Danielle. How am I? I'm not too bad. Thank you. You like this video, Aaron? Wendy says, I think women are too shamed and too able with masking to get counted. Yeah, there's a lot to do with, like, the masking element. 100%. A good waste of time says, I'm aware my privilege in all other areas, all other matters, but I also know that me being autistic has caused me to face discrimination. So I'm not doing it just to be oppressed. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of one of these dominant narratives that I see about quite a bit in the mainstream. Like, we watched that video from Pancho. He was talking about how, like, basically characterizing autistic people, needing accommodations and sort of a public speaking event as woke people. And then there was other people who were cat carrots. There was another guy called a blaze that we watched saying about how basically characterizing autistic people as Gen Z, you know, so they're kind of lumping us into sort of different groups and not sort of seeing us as like one. I mean, we're not one community. That would be very silly, but, you know, they kind of lump us into faults and ideas and opinions that they have about a particular group in order to tackle it. Thanks for your hearts and my recent comments. Are you welcome? Tommy says, I think women and non-binary people can download the patches for socializing and run socializing.exe. They tend to mask better hence the misdiagnosis. Yeah, my masking pretty much in teenage should mostly just amounted to assimilation to or not, no, not assimilation, usually to do with compensation. So I would just avoid social interaction, basically. That was my that was my social camouflage. I didn't really mask, you know, sneakers comments. So that was an interesting video to be easier for you to just go, no, that's not it. That's not autism. That's not what autism looks like. Of course, it isn't. That's ridiculous. This person is faking it. And that's offensive. In order for somebody to change their minds about autism, they'd have to be comfortable with holding these two supposedly contradictory ideas in their mind for some time. And then they might be able to acknowledge that this 30 year old woman getting the help that she is needed her whole life does not really affect my five year old nephew negatively in any way because of the spectrum. They both probably need very different things and very different resources. So they're not in competition. So let's stop treating it like it's a competition. Now, is it impossible that somebody has a rare disorder that they're faking being autistic? Because they like the attention it brings. Whatever reason it is that somebody has for doing this. No, does that make me feel good? The idea of somebody doing that? No, it doesn't. It makes me feel very uncomfortable and kind of annoyed. You could even say it makes me feel like someone's trivializing my diagnosis. Munch house and syndrome is so rare, though. It's going to be so few people and these people are sick. So I feel sympathy for them, you know, because who else in their right mind is going to pretend that they're autistic? It's still such a big loaded, scary word in our society. And maybe some people may kind of tentatively join the autistic community and then decide later on that actually the label doesn't fit and something else is more suited to them. This could be more likely to happen. Yeah, and I've seen people. I've talked to people who are of that variety, you know. But it's a long process. It's not like a very quick, sort of easy thing. Like it takes quite a while because it's such a complex thing to try and understand. And then you have to sort of listen to other people's experiences, you have to understand the criteria to do the research into it. You and then you have to apply it to your own individual life with like so many different other factors that may be into playing into who you are as a human being. It's complex, you know, I think it's what what autistic AF said earlier, you know, perhaps people who sort of come through and they they after some time they realize that they're not autistic, like, you know, what's what's the harm done, I suppose, you know, they've they've learned more about autism, open their minds to kind of the community, you know, 100 percent like to happen with younger people, you know, if someone's still figuring out who they are, but I don't know, I just what is the harm here? I come away with a bit more understanding of what autism is. I feel like that's something that most people will really, really need. And you might walk away with some autistic friends. Brilliant, great. OK, as long as you're not harming autistic people and like, fine, come in. It's a compassionate, warm space. You might have a great time and you might discover that, yes, you really are autistic. Somebody being misinformed from a tip talk and then kind of exploring the idea that they could be autistic for a little bit of time. OK, all right. I don't really see much harm in that. But what I do see harm in is calling out somebody saying that they're faking being autistic to win the oppression Olympics or something like that. And then it turns out that they actually are autistic because, you know, you can't see them. And then you sort of lay on a horde of people to sort of criticise and, you know, say that they're doing all sorts of horrible things when really what they're trying to do is something positive for other people, you know, that's not good. That's not what we want. You know, if there are any mainstream individuals out there, like nobody wants you to make videos calling out people who aren't autistic. That's not that's not that's not ideal. We don't want that. It's it's a little bit irritating, to be honest, just just a little bit. Fagi says, what is it with a lot of these creators they just want outrage for the sake of it? I think they're outrage merchants online. They have no equalities about their channels. Yeah. Well, I think I think it's also that they they try to fit everything into a particular worldview that they're trying to propagate and create. And to be honest, when Meg brought out like the political side, I can understand like the impact of that, because if someone is trying to make make kind of highly political videos, they're obviously going to try and squeeze it in every single thing that they see in life into some kind of political stance, do you know what I mean? Like, it can't just be like a separate thing. It has to be part of the the woke movement or the the left movement or, you know, something of that nature. Like they have to categorize it in a certain way and then make a stance against it, because that's what they do with pretty much everything that they talk about. Do you know what I mean? It's a very silly way of going about life, I would say. See their brains, so you don't know. Now, if somebody uses being autistic or from any other marginalised group as an excuse to be racist or behave badly towards any marginalised group in any way or as an excuse to justify abusive behaviour, that's obviously not acceptable. I will completely 100% agree with that. It's by the fact that I'm sure plenty of people listening will understand what I'm talking about. Virtually all the people that this applies to will think I'm talking about somebody else. They'll all respond saying, Yeah, there are people like that. There are so fucking weird. I mean, I think, particularly in my community, most of us would watch that and we would assume you were talking about us. That imposter syndrome is really hard to get rid of because, of course, even we can't see our minds. It's going on inside of us, you know? We have nothing. 100% Man, like, I was diagnosed when I was 10 years old. I am 100% autistic. I know for a fact. Man, like, there are so many points in my life, in my adulthood, where I have questioned whether I'm autistic or not, because of stuff like that. I am autistic, you know? There is no getting around that. There's, like, files of, like, video recordings that I've had that show these. You know, I went and got diagnosed when I was young. I still get those feelings. Like, that sense of autistic imposter syndrome is a real thing. And it can actually stop us, in a lot of cases, from advocating for ourselves, for going and receiving support, because we don't feel like we're real enough, like we struggle enough. Like, I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who, like, I've suggested that they go and get some supports, that they go and get a diagnosis. And they tell me, like, well, you struggle. You struggle with stuff. And I see other people who struggle. And you can tell that, I can tell that they're autistic. And I don't struggle, like, I don't feel like I'm worthy of having those supports, of having that label. I feel like I'm taking it from people. Like, people, it's such a big thing. And it stops a lot of people from, like, opening their eyes up to it as well. Like, it's not always from this aspect of, okay, I wanna be, like, it's hardly ever from that aspect of I wanna be quirky or special or unique or something of that nature. Like, a lot of people are very hesitant to actually use the label, understandably, because they feel like they are either taking the voices away from people or taking the resources that are there to support autistic people. And that's the bad thing, because they quite often need that support. And they are exactly the type of person, exactly like, an autistic person who needs that support, that exactly what the government has outlined as something that needs said support. But they just can't, because they don't want to take stuff away from other autistic people that they deem to be more real, you know? Which it says, when an autistic person tells you, you might be autistic, you should probably believe that it could be a possibility. We know our own type. I, yeah, I think it, yeah. I have had a lot of situations in life where that's happened. I don't particularly like to talk about, like, how and what too much, because like, I don't want people to go about sort of labeling people autistic, because I think some people can have particularly negative reactions to that just because of like the stigma and stereotypes that were out there. But yeah, 100%, like Jill says, I think huge proportion of people who don't feel autistic enough to own the label, 100%. There you go. And it is usually like, like diagnosed individuals as well. You know, they don't feel like they deserve help in certain areas because, ah man, it's not a good thing. And videos like that and narratives like that only serve to make people less likely to get the support, the help that they need, find a community, go through all of the great sort of autism self-improvement stages that a lot of us go from being a part of the autistic community. Like then they're not gonna get that feeling of understanding themselves that just has such a marked positive impact on your life. Like, and it's a shame, it really is. Nothing to compare our internal world to, so it's really difficult. That's why Paige Liel, an autistic Tik Toker, her new book is gonna be called, But Everyone Feels This Way. It's really confusing to figure out something so intangible, so I do sympathize that other people feel like they can't see it and that you don't look it, because yeah, that is true. It's clear from the comments that a lot of people did indeed think you were talking about them. And I don't think these people are pretending. I do believe this all comes from a good place, but I think it also stems from a misunderstanding that somehow the only way you'll have something of value to contribute is if you come from some sort of marginalized group. I think it might be worth pointing out here that claiming a label for yourself is not necessarily the same thing as claiming oppression. A label is just a way to describe your identity to yourself and to others. When I say I'm autistic, I'm not necessarily saying like, oh, woe is me. I've got the hardest life ever. No one has ever had a life harder than me. I'm so disadvantaged in society. Everyone needs to pity me now and forgive me of any mistakes I ever make because I am so small and autistic. I am instead describing how my mind works and hopefully that might help to relay some information about me to others who understand what autism is, as we know not a lot of people do necessarily understand exactly what autism is. But you know, that's why we have this channel. That's why we're making autism our whole personality, as some might say. I think a lot of people just need to realize you don't need to feel bad just for being privileged. No one's trying to make you feel guilty for something that you had absolutely no control over. They just want you to acknowledge it without undercutting it right afterwards by going, oh, well actually no, I'm also a part of this thing. So technically. I do just want to say again here that not all autistic people are white. I recently started following this account on TikTok. I think she has some really great things to say. Well, anyways, I actually was diagnosed as a child with autism. My mother told me when I was like 13 or 14. Do you know how autistic you have to be? Well, as like a black woman for doctors to actually diagnose you with autism as a child? Like, I was giving spectrum. But I feel like she, even though she was diagnosed as a child, she is somebody who people would probably look at and say she doesn't look autistic. I am a second year men's student, paying my own way through men's school, also model, also do content creation. I am highly capable. I have a garden, I like do compost. Okay, now I'm just, now I'm just bragging. In this book, autism missed and misdiagnosed by a British clinical psychologist. I'll leave a link to it down below. There is a whole section from a black autistic advocate called Vanessa who goes into detail about why black people are less likely to be diagnosed. For example, racial prejudice overshadowing any diagnosis and young people might instead be labelled as loud, feisty or rude. I think it's clear that we do have a lot more representation of white autistic people on social media and hopefully that will keep continuing to shift as more people are diagnosed. Well, I think as well, even if we're just talking about like women or AFAB individuals, I think, you know, there is a trend in doctors misdiagnosing said individuals with like BPD, like bipolar. Like it even used to be, I think that there was a particular characterisation from a German scientist called something Sukureva. And they basically characterised autism as a form of childhood schizophrenia. Like in the sort of the early stages of people understanding what exactly autism was from the psychological fields, you know? Some people very much can misdiagnose autism pretty commonly actually, particularly women. I think some autistic men can get characterised as like having particular anger issues, like due to meltdowns and things of that nature. I was giving spectrum, I love that. That seems to be like a joke that, I don't know, I've seen like a few sort of veals on Instagram, like people saying, oh, it's giving quirky. You know what I mean? Is that a reference to something that I'm just not very akin to? Because I am one of these rare individuals who just doesn't consume short form content. It's probably one of the reasons why I don't do it very well. Can't wait to read Paige's book. She's so relatable despite the fact I'm so much older. Adrian says, it's difficult to believe you deserve help when people are in have invalidating experience, making you feel dramatic for expressing your struggles. Indeed, indeed. Just to KF says, it's an example of how the power to make videos is now in everyone's hands. Even people like the one Megs reacts to. Yeah, 100%. Rizod says using the label autism makes people think you are stupid or gullible. So currently the majority of people have no reason to fake it, do they? No, I think you raise a good point because I think this idea that this guy's talking about only really applies to online spaces which are for neurodivergent or autistic people or disabled people. Any other place outside on the internet not necessarily seen as a good thing, as a quirky thing, as a unique thing. It's pretty frequently used as an insult in pretty much most mainstream circles like streamers and different content creators. And then when you go out into real life it's not seen as a positive thing. It's just not a beneficial label to have socially in a lot of cases. One of the things that's contributing to this are all those TikToks saying things like 10 signs you have ADHD, 10 signs you have autism and then it's like 10 different things that are all incredibly common parts of the human experience. This particular TikTok that they're responding to here as far as I can tell because the original video I think has been taken down now but it was from a psychiatrist. It wasn't like a video of 10 signs it was a facial expressions test I think which yeah, of course, can't tell you if you're autistic or not on its own obviously and I do think at the time this guy was kind of trying to sell consultations so you know, ethically I don't really know how you feel about that would just be really nice if there was just brilliant universal healthcare for all really, wouldn't it? You get an autism assessment, you get an autism assessment I mean to be honest this test is probably more likely to tell people who actually are autistic that they're not autistic from what I've seen of it. Anyway, it seems like a lot of medical professionals weren't super happy with this video and that might be why it was taken down. One of the comments on this video was the only one who could figure out that you're autistic is the middle school bully or another autistic person they just feel it in their bones and I just think this is why the autistic community is lovely we just share so many life experiences with each other so we know what's funny I think all the information about autism on TikTok is accurate, no I don't there was this one study that looked at 133 videos on TikTok according to the assessment that they did only 27% were accurate 41% were inaccurate and 32% were classed as overgeneralised but according to them if the content was posted by medical professionals it was more likely to be accurate yeah I would agree you know I did a whole video reacting to like weird TikTok tests there's a lot of strain Yeah but the thing is it's not really pointing to exactly where this is coming from like is this coming from I think I saw someone else talking about this there was I think there was a study from Drexel University 2024 this year doing a similar thing analysing like the top 100 kind of videos on TikTok with like hashtag autism like they didn't stipulate exactly where this was coming from like was this coming from autistic creators autistic educators or was this just general things about autism propagated by people who don't know a lot about it because I did see a lot of stuff in there about like saying like cure autism and things of that nature I don't really think it's necessarily like like pointing to the fact that autistic creators are spreading this misinformation in that sense I can understand that perhaps stuff might be quite generalised like possibly like I think if you are a content creator and you're producing lots and lots and lots of different pieces of content like at some point like you're going to mention a very human experience that people have like the whole introvert aspect of it like are a lot of autistic people introverts 100% it's true can people who are not autistic be introverts? yes true you know it's the context though like using it is an amazing resource for autistic people the stereotypes and DSM give no idea of what autism actually is like as lived experience I think it's that the sweet spot lies in a combination of both and like understanding both of them when does the neuroaffirmative DSM 6.0 drop Tobias says just want to say thank you Thomas stunned into this topic and realised how much I can relate to autistic people from their perspectives your perspective and insights have been very valuable thank you very much Tobias glad to have you on here Daniel says I'm an autistic black woman and I feel like black people don't get diagnosed as autistic because of social biases environmental costs and statistics because our parents had and no patients to do so thank you for sharing that Daniel I don't really feel like it's to talk on specifically mostly because I obviously don't have experience in that sense you know but I definitely would like to do a podcast with someone about that I suppose one of the issues that I have when it comes to like if I was to like find somebody to talk about that issue like I don't want to feel like want individuals that I'm putting on to feel like they are being like pigeonholed because I know that that's quite often something that happens in the media for both like disabled individuals anyone with any kind of diversity it tends to be that like media companies sort of employ them to do stuff around the diversity and not necessarily just general kind of work so I definitely don't want to do that you know so I'm just kind of waiting for somebody who wants to talk about it to ask me if they want to do it because I don't want to pigeonhol people that the NT medical professionals may provide less accurate content than normal autistic content creators I think that the thing is that people who are medical professionals will produce content which like if they are producing content it will usually be based on like the medical scientific criteria so in these studies it won't necessarily be picked up as something that's incorrect you know which is not really incorrect if they're talking about like the DSM and sort of the medical kind of psychological side of it but it may be missing a lot of the nuance and a lot of the different aspects that come from the autistic community strange stuff out there on the internet and even content from autistic people can be overgeneralized sure people can sometimes speak about their own experiences as if it's going to be everybody's experience yeah just take everything with a pinch of salt I suppose I don't think it necessarily means that we should cancel the whole thing though people sharing their own experiences as long as they clear that this is my own experience and it won't necessarily be yours can be super super helpful because often even if you don't relate to their exact scenario it can start to bring back memories and if you are going to go through the diagnosis process it can help you to get your notes and remember things because it's really hard to go and tell somebody your whole childhood basically you know talk to a medical professional if you can I understand plenty of people self-diagnose that self-diagnosis should not come from a tiktok I appreciate that you all isn't against self-diagnosis I also agree your self-diagnosis shouldn't come from one tiktok definitely not this facial expression test I have a video for kind of like what should you do you know one thing that I don't particularly understand about like individuals will say like oh you're going to diagnose yourself from tiktok kind of thing like in a lot of these cases where people are criticizing the content that people make I think they very much undermine people's ability to understand the context of what people are saying to like understand the different sides to formulate their own opinions about things like I'm not really in the camp of like if you are putting stuff out that people are just going to mindlessly chomp down on whatever you're saying like I tried to as much with my videos to you know whenever I'm sort of talking about experiences to highlight like you know it's it's very different person to person and also like don't take my opinions as being like gospel you know like have your own opinion about it see the other side of it try to understand it from a lot of different angles I think that's generally the approach so I don't think I probably even need to say that because I think the majority of people do have like the ability to do that like have critical thought like I don't think that we need to be like man it's kind of like some people just think that people who use the internet are just like they just consume and emulate they don't think that individuals have the ability to be critical you know bedtime for me working tomorrow thanks for the stream no worries Mr Glitch lovely to see you yeah I don't understand why people assume someone self-diagnosed based on one take talk really well it's hyperbole isn't it let's face it if you're really autistic we aren't going to diagnose ourselves with just one video it takes a lot yeah man it takes ages it takes such a long time it's a whole journey you know it's not just like one individual thing there's so many things so many aspects to it to try and understand if I was too dense to figure it out until a few weeks ago I have a clinical license stating that I understand it it wasn't until I heard others lived experiences here that I can see what and how I missed yeah well I think in general you know communities and people I think it kind of you know you have like different domains of thought you have like particularly the more sort of concrete kind of scientific domains and within that you have like varying degrees of concreteness going from all the way from like biomedical sciences to like yeah from maths to like physics to biomedical sciences to like I don't know where psychology to sociology to philosophy you know we have a whole continuum of different domains which talk about different things and the social realm the social kind of political realm is kind of on the forefront which means that there is a lot of variation in what you hear and a lot of nuance to a lot of developments and sort of innovations in areas and science sort of follows on but it follows very slowly and sort of meticulously kind of behind that to verify different aspects of it and so you're always going to hear a lot more kind of nuanced and new ideas from talking to or or consuming content from autistic people who are talking about their experiences because not everything is understood with science there's still a lot of different stigmas and stereotypes and also the lens at which we view autism is very very different but you do if you think you might be autistic so I'll leave that one linked on screen personally I'm of the belief that you are more of an ally if you don't feel the need to change aspects of yourself because you think that is the only way your help will be valued anyway you've all ended up having to make this kind of response tiktok because some people you know weren't happy about it clarification on this video this video is not about autism specifically also is not about whether or not I think self diagnosis is accurate it's why the only comment I make about a self diagnosis in the video is that your self diagnosis should not primarily come from a random tiktok that stumbled on your for you page overarching point is not that you should question people who tell you that they have I don't think anyone does that because of other people who are misappropriating these labels the overarching point of this video centers on how white people will try to distance themselves from their privilege of the ways that this manifests specifically for white people on the left is what I was describing in this video where people will attribute these overarching and I don't know what you guys think but I really don't agree with that I really I really think that's that's a very harmful way of looking at it you know what do you guys think in generic queer and neurodivergent labels to themselves which is why the concluding point of this video is not that you should have people prove their identities to you the concluding point of this video is that you are still able to be a meaningful ally even if you are coming from a place of privilege I appreciate that he said this I feel like the outcome of this was a bit negative for neurodivergent people and you may have just encouraged the general person to feel like they are in some way qualified to decide who is autistic and who isn't you can't say oh I didn't mean autism when you're responding to two videos about autism you hashtagged autism and the word neurodivergence is very often used about autism sometimes when you search the word neurodivergence the definition will actually come up as being just it means being autistic I think in response to when people I think are diminishing people's experiences feelings or emotions around their speculation of being potentially neurodivergent I think a more positive or constructive method especially for community building tactics is to provide resources and to provide positive affirmation and to give advice and suggestions on how people can begin or launch into their journey for their internal self-discovery it's okay to not be neurodivergent and it's okay to be neurotypical the reason why I say that is because I hope that you don't have to be neurodivergent it is an experience that comes with an unending feeling of being misunderstood perpetual loneliness and alienation but also feeling like you just don't belong in a world that wasn't built for you in the first place and I think it's really important to recognize that people who disproportionately are afflicted with mental health issues are often black, indigenous and other people of color and I think in order to move forward in society we have to create a community we have a larger form of language in a provision of resources to make sure everybody can seek proper mental health care this was a much more productive response to LJ's video in my mind worst case somebody who's not autistic has more of an understanding of autistic people like the world isn't going to end I have to say it's kind of heartbreaking to have searched your whole life you find this label that describes you perfectly that leads to this new level of self-acceptance that helps the people around you understand why you do things the way you do helps you to learn things about yourself that you never could have learned on your own and then just as you feel ready to share it with your friends and your family there's this narrative of people faking autism and autism being overdiagnosed I don't want to feel like I have to justify being autistic to every person that I meet just believe someone I'd really recommend this book if you are interested in the underdiagnosis of autistic people I'll leave a link to it in the description I have a video about nine signs that you might not be autistic that video is not intended to gatekeep autism you'll kind of see what I'm talking about if you click on it I'll leave it linked down below and on screen I'm doing a hell of a lot of time and effort into creating these videos at the moment and I'm absolutely loving it if you would like to support the channel you can do so over on Patreon if you join even the lowest here which is just for US dollars you get two exclusive videos every month there's a bunch up there already and you also can join the discord server full of neurodivergent people and people who are exploring the idea that they could be neurodivergent as well and if you want to try the paired out then click the link in the description as I say you'll get a seven day free trial and 25% off membership bye really interesting video as per usual from I'm Autistic and now what highly recommend you go over check out that video it'll be linked down in the description if you want to go check out give it a like, drop a subscribe give her a comment down below tell her that I popped in to do a little stream thank you Meg