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I'm Jarrett Ransom CEO of the Raven Group also known as the Nonprofit Nerd and I am ready to get us started. So Friday is always reserved for asked and answered and we have seen the question shift right we talked about Julia in the beginning of the year or I should say last year March when we started the shows. These are really about survival questions and the questions have continued to evolve just like all of us have as we continue to navigate the recovery phase. CDC guidelines you know are evolving and so everything continues to evolve. But I just want to make note and you have before too Julia that these questions are changing. So I like kudos and commend all of you that send these in and ask these questions because we are seeing you navigate continuously and to evolve continuously as we move about into almost the middle of the year. Like it is May it is May 14th so where is the year gone? You know it's funny I think it's really an interesting thing and let's start with this question from Tracy from Madison, Wisconsin. She writes this is an odd thing our board chair does not think it's proper to serve alcohol at our board retreat. Okay first of all a year ago people would have been like where is the alcohol because we can't have a board retreat right. I mean really this is a change. We work in the domestic violence space and he thinks drinking contributes to the problem so he does not want to allow it at our evening dinner. Can you help me navigate this? I am the board liaison oh interesting and it's up to me to communicate this. Wow Tracy. Yeah this is going to be interesting and I have a feeling Julia you and I are going to have contradictory thoughts on this. So I'm a huge proponent for not drinking as well as you know having if if having alcohol is acceptable great but Tracy if your board liaison or sorry if the board chair is saying like you know I don't think that it's proper for us to have said alcohol. I think you can still have a very enjoyable evening. You can still make a signature mocktail. You can still provide so many wonderful cocktails that do not have alcohol in them. And then you know you say domestic violence organization and your board chair believes that this contributes to the problem. You know so with this Tracy I do want to bring light to there are so many organizations that their mission is in the recovery space and to be mindful of that I think is really important but I think we also need to be mindful of everyone that is attending the event right. Some people may have an addiction some people may be in recovery and so I think we should consider that when we are considering all of these options when it comes to your board retreat. So that's my thought again I mean I don't think it's going to hurt if we do not have one night of alcohol. Wow I know pop the cork and tell me your answer. You know sister this just fries my brain because I mean I have a family that has just like every other family you know has dealt with substance abuse alcohol dependency and and this is my thought you know you're talking to volunteers a board retreat and I think that while alcohol fuels many issues that are our social ills you know I I don't want someone to tell me what I can and can't do. I sound like such when I hear myself say that it's not really who I am in so many ways but it is and I don't want to be treated like this. As a board member I'm showing up I'm giving my all I'm spending my own money time and treasure talents all of these things to be a good leader and while I honor other people's choices that's a choice and I don't want to be dictated to and so when I read this question I I had such a visceral reaction and maybe that's my own baggage I don't know but you know we're adults and we have problems and we're talking about you know you maybe having a stand up bar or or something that's fine or not having table service I get that but yeah isn't it interesting I mean I see what you're saying Jarrett I really do. To you like you know Julia provided an opportunity I provided an opportunity Tracy so when it comes to can we help you navigate this I'm going to go and say you know let's recommend taking to the executive council maybe ask the executive leadership team of the board to maybe vote or weigh in on this because I don't know that you Tracy as well as the board chair are the the final decision makers I don't know I don't know the right answer I I do know that Julie and I both provide a bit of contradictory you know navigation towards this but I would recommend that you take it to the executive board and maybe make a decision with them and have their voices weigh in on the decision making. Yeah I mean my my comment to that before we move on is you have a lot bigger fish to fry than we've been worrying about this but having said this I can see where it might just really cause a lot of consternation for right or for wrong for right or for wrong I'm not I mean it isn't it interesting it sometimes is like the dorky little things like this that get everybody set off do you think? Yeah I mean I would have no problem if there was not alcohol. Well maybe I'm just revealing too much. Pack your own I don't know I know sorry we'll see this is the fun part we don't always agree and that's just fine okay what this comes to oh name withheld from Columbus Ohio my favorites you know what are development director positions being paid now I'm looking to apply for a promotion but I have no idea what the salary range would be this position is at the same nonprofit so I'm hesitant to ask. Oh name withheld we had so many great conversations about this and so you know when it comes to compensation communication that is something that our sponsor nonprofit HR did bring this to light so we had Lisa on and she talked exactly about this so go back to our archives listen to nonprofit HR with Lisa and she talked so much and provided so much wisdom and experience when it comes to this a couple of her tips that she recommended during that episode although I really want you to go back and listen to the full episode is there are compensation reports so there are industry specific compensation reports that will help you navigate kind of what the market bears right and I tend to do this with my clients based off of what is our operating budget how many full-time staff do we have those are also determining factors so it's not a one-size-fits-all you know promotion request you really need to consider some other multiple or some other considerations in there but there are sector resources like the compensation paid that I mentioned there's also you know asking your organization what is their communication policy on compensation how do we talk about that what are the opportunities and if you're applying for a promotion like really be willing to have a conversation about not only financial but benefits you know what is the entire package as it relates to the compensation you know you said something I think maybe last week and that and I don't know if this was on the show or this might have been off air but you made the comment that you felt that we need to be pushing our nonprofit sector to post the salary ranges when they put poster or openings because this person writes I have no idea what the salary range would be yes and that's an equity issue that's on the episode also with non-profit HR with Lisa I myself do not share anybody else's job posting like on LinkedIn or if anyone sends me an email asking me to share it I will not share it unless it has a salary description or at least a starting salary range like that's really important for multiple reasons but equity being one of those and as Lisa mentioned in the show right Julia was also about that is part of how you communicate compensation like if you're communicating that publicly that's also communicated internally because now your colleagues see that right right very interesting well you know it's I appreciate that this kind of came in right as we're talking about these things because again part of this recovery is a big change in staffing you know jobs are changing they're growing they're morphing I mean this is going to be a time of incredible opportunity I think across that landscape I'm hiring for an executive director for my client so if you are in the Metro Phoenix or just Arizona area there is a position with the salary requirements in there the range I should say for a full-time non-profit executive director and you're right I've seen a lot of applicants come in some qualified some not qualified some looking to relocate it's amazing the amount of people that have submitted for this opportunity that live out out of Arizona but willing to relocate that's awesome I love hearing that I love hearing that okay let's go to Dewan from Frankfurt Kentucky what is your feeling about staff credit cards we've been using a petty cash system which is so old-fashioned and a pain he must be from my generation can you give us some recommendations Dewan Frankfurt can you start Julia I want to I want to go behind you on this one so I would say that first and foremost this is an issue that harkens back to the discussion of what is the relationship you have with your bank and so that's really important I mean if you have a relationship with your bank then that is strong you should be able to do one of two things do cash cards where they have like a certain amount and they're only refillable after so let's say they're $500 they can only be refilled once all of the receipts have been put up against it and verified to be accurate and and that you have to do internally I'm not saying you turn that over to your bank but if you have a good banking relationship you should be able to have some sort of instrument such as that online so you're not just waiting till the very last minute and then trying to reconcile an entire statement so I think that's number one I think it's really a big problem in our sector we tend to do a lot of reimbursement with our staffs and so we we cause our own team members to front expenses and they're living on the margins anyway and these aren't high paying jobs and so we're saying oh just go ahead and pay for it and then we'll reimburse you and that really should not be done I think that's just a really bad form I remember that wait when I was new in my career and whether it was gas whether it was hotel whether it was an event and I thought I don't really have the budget to do this like I don't have the cash reserve to kind of float that for the next 3045 days so I'm so glad to hear you say that Julia because I do remember um having that weight and that thought of oh my gosh that's really hard for me to do and being too embarrassed to say something about it exactly too embarrassed and then you feel like well you know it's too personal because you don't want to share that you might not have that credit limit you might not you might want to use it for something else and then in essence you are bankrolling whatever part of your organization and I just think that's a really bad form really bad form so I agree I love the credit card concept that you put a certain balance in there and and then you do your you know consolidation with your receipts that's submitted all that's done now electronically which is wonderful I love that our our question came in and asked for a credit card because I unfortunately get the question of should we have debit cards and I'm like no we do not want infinity access to our bank account so this I'm taking it further this is for board members as well no one really should have a debit card to your organization's account because that is so financially insecure it's really scary it's very um gosh dangerous it's just really dangerous so definitely consider the credit card never consider that debit card do have a limit on there and then also your financial process and procedures very clear when it comes to um how to track the dollars that were spent and you you know you can do uh reloadable cash cards true so I mean and that like in depending on what your banking relationship is that should all be able to be done managed online right and that you should be able to see what the transactions are you're not waiting for that paper statement at the end of the month I mean it's a 24 seven thing so yeah Duane thank you you know our smartphones you can scan it you can there's so many ways to to capture the receipt so easily that we don't need to go into maybe I'm dating myself into that Xerox machine and just copy upon copy upon copy right there's so many easy ways that we can navigate capturing this now exactly um we have a viewer that's written in organizations should also be careful who has access to their PayPal account yes thank you so much for bringing that up and that is just as dangerous as giving someone a debit card yeah absolutely okay let's go to our next one and again for those of you joining us I know it might seem a little disjointed but I'm coming to you live from our my office and so I'm working with a little bit different of a system today but let's get to Jamie from Raleigh North Carolina we have a staff member who during COVID moved back home to South Carolina oh my gosh this is my state wow this is cool okay he's saving money and still working productively from home frankly I don't see him moving back as we look at returning to our campus I'm worried that we don't have a policy or a plan to deal with this wow this is definitely something you want to talk about um with your leadership team with the HR because Jamie there are some positions that are not remote options right like you cannot do some positions from a remote location for multiple reasons so consider that as well I've talked a little bit about on the show I was actually um hanging out with my family and my brother has a pretty high profile job at a higher education institute and um one of his staff members up and left and moved I mean still worked but moved to another location and so this was his story where you know my brother then said okay it's time for all of us to come back on campus and this one staff member said um I don't live there anymore and so they of course had to had to drill down into okay how do we navigate this of course higher institution you know there was HR department that could certainly help to to you know navigate this conversation but Jamie I would say you know if you have an HR person in house definitely this is something that you need to to have a conversation with them if you don't have an HR person you can always contact an HR um company that offers consultation and they can help you create these policies procedures and even communication to your team because that is very important so um do talk about this and and do not put this on the back burner I think this needs to happen sooner than later especially um if you joined us for the chitty chat chat you heard um and if you watched the news yesterday the CDC guidelines are ever changing so um I would see foresee that many organizations campuses whatnot are coming back in person right and you know I've been hearing about um this in terms of HR that if you have an employee that lives in another state you know you have tax implications and and and the way maybe your insurance is being covered I mean whatever my head you have a lot of things that aren't just a function of are they in that sitting in that cubicle or attending that meeting IRL I mean you have these other implications that you know like healthcare you know all of these things and we haven't even begun to scratch the surface on that I think right so cool well this is going to be interesting I suspect you know Jared we were talking how the questions have changed I suspect we're going to get more questions like this oh absolutely um even as I mentioned earlier you know I I posted a a job opening and I know that Katie with staffing boutique she is all over linkedin posting jobs and you know it's very clear I feel like we need to be very clear about this is a remote position now but it will be in person it is a permanent you know position and I think the communication of this is really critical that's smart I appreciate you saying that I really do okay let's go to um our next question this comes from I don't know if it's Lee or Leah on Honolulu Hawaii I don't know if we've ever had anyone ask questions from Hawaii we were thinking about initiating a new vacation whole volunteer service project on the big island do you have any ideas and do you think it would be a marketable project so Leah this exists in your community already I saw this in the news early in the pandemic that I don't know don't quote me on it Leah but um I think it was the convention of visitors bureau or it was someone that was enticing people to move to Honolulu or the island somewhere in Hawaii again don't quote me on it and offering I want to say like the travel was covered but you would then have to like rent a long-term rental or find somewhere to stay and part of this requirement was civic engagement on the island and I thought that was really cool and if I could up and go and have my travel to Hawaii covered stay live and be of service in Hawaii you better believe I would have been there the stars did not align and I could not do that but I have seen this so what this tells me um is again go back to research benchmark who who where what communities might be doing something like this already we even have things like Peace Corps AmeriCorps that aren't exactly what you're looking at here but it has relatable like functionality of it so I think it's a great opportunity I would love to hear back from you like how this transpires and and what the you know how it comes to fruition um but yes do do take on some some research time yeah I think it's a great thing and I think it's um especially now as the marketplace for everybody's changing and travel and and that whole thing I think there's going to be this pent up demand for people wanting to get out of dodge you know so yeah and you know also back to the rental cars right now um domestically rental cars are limited and so in fact in Hawaii people are renting new haul trucks um which puts another challenge to the locals in Hawaii because now they can't move because you haul trucks are not available so domestic travel and that is really increased and so I would foresee this you know not even being so much international but within our US and continental you know states is how do we attract people to come here how do we keep them here and how do we engage them in our community like immersive opportunities I love it I love that you said that I think that's fabulous hey before we go on to our next question um Dan wrote in and this is I'm jumping back a little bit um talking about um the work working remote and I wanted to bring this up because I really like what he said what he's saying he's he writes also it's also important for the nonprofit sector to adapt if remote work has been working it's hard enough to retain good talent thank you Dan for you know Jared you talk about that talent retention we need to be thinking about it absolutely absolutely okay well Leah I'm sorry to be jumping around um we have had such an amazing week and Jared I'm sorry I gotta pull the plug on you sister because our time is up man I wasn't even done I was just getting started it's been great I cannot believe it is Friday May the 14th 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