 demystifying the ideology of feminism. Feminism, simply put, is advocacy for the equal rights of the sexes. Over the years, feminism has been demonized in the world and over. In Africa, feminism has been totally thrown upon as a taboo and demand for equality of the sexes has been seen as inappropriate. Feminism, feminists have been seen as people who demand for things that are not proper, like demanding for equal rights, demanding for suffrage, demanding for equal job opportunities. Northwithstanding, women the world over has been thriving. They have been trying to break that barrier. They have been working twice as hard as the men. Now, the visible challenges of feminism, one is the patriarchal system. The patriarchal system tilts towards supporting the men. They see the male folk as more superior than women, which is not supposed to be. Second is inequality in the workforce. Women are not being given equal rights. Women are being looked down upon when it comes to pay time. They are being given lesser, which is not supposed to be. First individuals are supposed to be seen. First, before their sexuality. Individuals are supposed to be judged based on their productivity, down their sexuality. Secondly, thirdly, rather, sexual harassment. Sex feminism has been played with sexual harassment. Say, for instance, two out of 10 or five girls have been sexually harassed through their lifetime. The African feminist is being cooled down by the society for not fitting into the patriarchal description, which says, the females should bow down to the males. Now, feminism. Feminism goes beyond only women. A man can be a feminist as well. We have male feminists who stand for equal rights. Now, I'll take this question to the house and especially the male in the house. Do you see feminism as a threat or a cause worthy for a fight? Thank you very much, Bola. That was a very wonderful one. Feminism has been misconstrued and it relies more on feminism based on two basic pillars, gender equality and gender equity. Now, you use the principles of equity to achieve equality. You ask me how? When you tell somebody gender equality, some people we say or jokingly or unknowingly or sensibly make a remark that if a woman can live this thing because a man can do this, a woman should do that, that's not what feminism is. The principles of equality, women should have equal access to opportunities, jobs, like you said, in the tech world, especially those that are male dominated. People should not be judged based on the gender, but should be more of the intellectual ability. And then the principle of equity is, let me give a very practical example. If a woman is going to be a manager somewhere or an engineer somewhere, for instance, you know she's a woman, she has to get pregnant at some point. She has the right to get pregnant when she wants to get pregnant. And the company should give her the necessary support at that time because she's pregnant. That is equity because she's a woman. You won't say, oh, this is what we don't want, but we will say we will deny her the opportunity because we don't want her to go on nine months, what do you call it, nine months of vacation when she will get pregnant and therefore we don't want a woman to occupy that position. That's not fair. So I guess that's what she's trying to say is on the principle of equity to equality. Well, she treated the man in the house. I don't know why I put all the things there, you know. But it's a very interesting and very sensitive topic. And because I'm a Twitter person, so there's a lot of flaws on Twitter around it. In fact, it's a feminist coven on Twitter, you know, so. And they, I mean, the feminist group actually were the ones that pioneered, you know, the NSAS movement in a way and did that. For me, I think it's a very good job, right? And that tells you how much organized women can be when given that opportunity. I don't believe that people are equal. No two human beings are equal. Even no two men are equal. I just believe in the dynamics of give the right person the position and not your right person. So there is your right person, there is the right person. Now, if the right person is a male, then so be it. If the right person is female, so be it. Again, I understand that there's a lot of marginalization which brings me back to the mental shift I was talking about earlier when Elijah spoke, you know. We need to begin to deal with our mental programming around how we see women. If we begin to change these things, then we can begin to re-engineer. If we're gonna change the narrative, it begins with changing and reprogramming our mindset around things like this. So I believe in the ideology of feminism. I mean, someone even said that these days, like Bola said, it's been demonized where it's now become a fight between men versus women. And it should be a fight for humanity regardless of who you are. So because when you take a concept that is really beautiful, that is really sensible, when you take that to the extreme, what happens is it loses its meaning. And what we're doing gradually is taking feminism to the extreme side of it, such that men begin to think feminism is about women. Wherever you see men, trample upon them and that's not what it is. Okay, so sorry. I think African men are the ones demonizing this whole movement, sorry. And I think the whole ideology of feminism, like when you go abroad, like you get it, it's not about women being better than men or give us everything because you're a woman. No, it's about like give us, let's be equal. If I'm fit for this job, same as Victor is, let us get the same pay for the same job. I mean, that's what like the basics of feminism, but when you bring it to Africa, and this is because in key positions, both in governmental, in corporate, and everywhere, men are the ones, are the key holders in key positions and the woman would have to come in, have to be able to walk their way through the old distance and please men, when I say please, not in the literal sense, but like, you have to please men. And it's still happening now. Men are still like key holders in some positions. And there was a story that came out last two weeks about a big media mogul, I won't mention her name. She owns a big game studio. She used to be on DSTV, but she's no longer there. And then they said so many things about her sleeping with top governmental people and officials and then sleeping with this, that, that, that to get to where she is now. But these people that you say she's sleeping with, have you mentioned one woman in that key position, in all the key positions that you said, she slept with this when she got here, then she slept with this, they are all men in those positions, they are all men, no woman. So yeah, I say she slept with them, she slept with all the men in those key positions. Why are we not fighting for women to be in those positions? So another woman don't have to sleep with all men that are in those key positions. And then repeat that cycle, why are we not placing women in those key positions? It doesn't make any sense. Because, okay, now she has done it. What's he called? I'm a millennial. I'm not an age man. Now I'm trying to climb the ladder. It's still the same men, it's still men in the key position. So will I have to sleep with all of them also to get to my position? And then I have a younger sister, who is a Gen Z. Will she have to sleep with all men again in these key positions? What are we doing about changing the narrative so that the cycle will repeat itself? Well, you are right anyway, you are sessions. The thing is, from what Victor said, it's true that no individual, no two individual, be it a man and a woman will be equal in intellect, reasoning and strength. But in this case, the concept is no biological or physical or human perspective. They are saying, give women and men a level playing field. Field, thank you. Yeah, a level playing field. You are a software engineer, you are a man. I am a software engineer, I'm a woman. But we are competing for one position. Let the best person win. And then the other case of equity is the one I just gave an example that if a woman is some way, women is important for them to be well taken care of. If a woman is pregnant, because most times I've had so many arguments. The last time I had the opportunity of speaking to a woman, she said, oh, she was denying this opportunity simply because she was a woman and at some point she would get pregnant. And interestingly, I was, during the months errading, the 2019 election, where we had, I think there was a woman that was contesting for president of Nigeria at that time. They were actually two women, but one backed out and so you could remember. And then I was in this public vehicle going somewhere and I overheard conversations about the election and I chipped in. I said, wow, I just asked that question. I wanted to get the reaction of people that, oh, what if we have a woman president? It's going to be nice to have a woman to be the president of Nigeria. And they said, how can a woman be the president of some of the men? I said, why is your technique? They said, oh, what will happen to her? What if a woman is pregnant is a president that she gets pregnant? I said, ah, pregnancy is a human thing. It's part of being a woman. So you should respect her or support her in that period. It doesn't mean she's less of a human. So that's, that's what I take on it. If I'm going to ask to baller, I don't know if baller is to you. You know, at least I like to come in there. Okay, all right. You see, everything boils down to the home front. This societal construct starts with the home as well. When you have gender roles, if we can recondition our minds, eliminate gender roles. Okay, take some time back. While I was serving at my classroom, I tried to make, I didn't come like, okay, you male, you female class rep. I made a female class rep and I made a male assistant. I just did that as an example that a woman too can stand in key positions and a man can support vice versa. It's not about one must be the head all the time, all the time. The other is just to support each other. It's supposed to be the norm, not the other way around. So there is communal growth. In order to project communal growth, you have to start thinking like that. Society has to start thinking like that. Yeah, I think it boils down to the thought that we talked about. And actually, feminism is the ideology of feminism. I think men need it more. Men need that education much more. I believe it's my personal opinion than the women. So thanks a lot, Bola. Thank you very much, everyone. Demystifying the ideology of feminism, it is a crucial conversation in the society whereby we have to continue speaking on these issues till it gains ground. Up next, I will be calling on Victor Oyeker after the break. Thank you.