 Okay, so that's what I'm gonna do Linux cast camera coming today. All right. I should be live Maybe we'll see And I am live now. Hey everybody. How you guys doing? Welcome today's very special special broadcast from TLT and across the Linux space. Hey, so that's what I'm gonna Do I just start studying people here. We got Matt DT Josh Silo freaking Jesse and I Nate sprungles and of course Steve We're gonna say Merry Christmas everybody Merry freaking Christmas I just got the notification from YouTube YouTube just notified me that everybody is streaming at this moment Let's make sure the internet will hold Yeah, yeah, let's not break the internet with this. Are we officially breaking the internet night with this awesomeness. All right One thing you are broadcasting your left hand side if you care There you go. Now it's gone You streamer noob If you want to be on time you're very polite today Jesse, what? Now for those of you watching in my stream, I don't know uh for check audio levels. Yeah, you're nay And everybody's stream whoever stream you're watching. Let us know if you can actually hear everybody because you know pulse audio Yeah, Alex our text is mirrored For the Linux tube on yours your text is mirrored Uh, okay Where's just the Linux tube? No, it's it's Like it's backwards. I don't know how to fix that Because you know I mean, I think I think all of you guys are smart guys I think you guys could easily in five minutes learn how to read backwards Yeah Whether nothing is working For you It's So if something doesn't go wrong something is wrong Oh, yeah, it would be it would be very unusual. Let's yeah. Yeah Well, what's the phrase uh, screw it. We'll do it live Yeah, yeah, there we go. You see Yeah, he didn't say score it more relevant than ever with uh, you know, easy access to uh, stream mail it That's still the great that's still the greatest live tv clip of all time from the old inside edition show 20 years ago If it will do it live I'm missing brody He said he said he he he was really early for him and he was going to try to make it But he couldn't guarantee that he couldn't so if he pops in like I We got I got jonathan jonathan's monitoring. So if he pops in he'll make sure he gets in here. So It's definitely really early Yeah, and nick was the same way so Uh, nick nick also said they cannot guarantee. Yeah, say yeah But he did he did say he said he did say to make sure that we have a great great stream And he's and he's thankful that he was uh invited. So Which is cool. Well, yeah Yeah, time zones are stupid I'm just gonna say that time zones are stupid. Well, yeah, this noon should be at dark This is actually the time I normally do my streams because this is the perfect time as far as it's early in the us But not crazy early. It's early evening in europe and a little later in the middle east Obviously asia and the pacific. We're sorry. We apologize in advance Like like my girl like my girl just told me when I hopped on she's like i'm going to bed now I'm like, okay. I said see if you can watch it. She's like i'm going to sleep I mean being tech youtubers We all know that at least half of the people that watch our stuff live in india and china and we apologize Yeah, we should actually be more time friendly on stream. Sometimes I I know it's but then that were to require us to get Streaming at weird hours Funny that you mentioned that because i've been pouring into the analytics as of lately and I realized and I realized quickly Oh, Matt just disappeared. Uh, I realized quickly that I a large part of my user base is in the asianic continents Yeah Absolutely Which is insane You guys look at your analytics. I don't look at them. What would what what would you it would why? Yeah, very rarely you can grow I look at comments. I don't I don't look I will never I I I said that to myself before I came up with the idea To start my youtube channel over again. I will never open that page Ever because it will cause nothing but anxiety Well, there's a lot of useful tools in that analytics area in youtube studio, man I don't care about any of those I just I just care to go. I just care to go put the content out there whoever watches it watches it if it grows it grows Why do I have to look at the analytics? Welcome back matt welcome back Who's from where and when are they watching and I just put them at at the rate. I can put them out. I'm not gonna Watch something that will tell me hey if you don't if you if you put your videos out at this time It's not gonna work You need to put them out at this time and that time and you you need to target audience of this age and that age That's gonna cause me anxiety and well, I'm gonna look at that I'm gonna tell you something Before I started looking at analytics, I was holding steady at about 2,200 subscribers, right? I haven't looked at it today, but I started Paying attention to analytics and I am now at 3,800 subscribers. I've gained over 15 or close to 1,500 subscribers Oh, let's be completely honest about it. Once I walked you through a whole bunch of you did. Yeah, you did But I'm just saying it it's important. My whole point wasn't that it's important It does help you grow and if it wasn't for tyler mentioned it to me and pointing out what I needed to look at The truth is is I would have been just still there Well, like a lot of people don't know if you go into the phone version of youtube like the youtube analytics youtube studio You can go there's a Research yeah research. Yeah, I was confused of whether or not it was called reach But it's called research and you go to that tab and it will tell you like Videos or like keywords that your your viewers are searching for it. It will show you Keywords that there is a lack of videos for that people are searching for around your niche Like it like it goes through and shows you a whole bunch of different stuff that Like not that you need to do but that you could do that people are interested in The top search for me here says how to downgrade windows 10 There you go You That's funny that reminds me of the last time I went uh black friday camping I I did it maybe 10 years ago. I went black friday camping like literally tent in the park a lot And got uh two laptops because the door buster was by one get one free to find a tickle me almo I was not Okay, let's see my church leaders are watching this stream. So okay, so top search Here uh down Coding experience. Oh, I got a problem here guys. What's your problem? Nobody's watching my stream. I'm assuming that would mean it's unlisted Oh boys I've done this before yeah I could get mine at all. So don't don't worry about it. I just completely have given up I'm working at all Matt. Holy crap Let's see nobody can hear you guys before I can't get my camera to work And he's still did you do it? Did you Matt? Did you install something new? No Are you still using uh open susa? Yes? Uh, there are a lot of open sus Let's see Let's go ahead and make the stream public issue is that I So if it's open sus that means the distrosan imposter. Do you use whaling for six days? Yes, and then I switch back to x org and it's didn't like that And then I switch back to whaling and well, yeah, it's nothing on our end just to let you know Everything All right, I just got the notification that you're that your stream got yeah So we started streaming for those of you watching my stream We started streaming about 10 minutes ago, but you didn't miss anything because a lot of it was just us Uh fooling with audio and everything so It's not a Linux podcast if everything goes right And poor matt poor matt hasn't been able to do anything with his at all I'm still installing nixOS, but we love that matt. We love you brother. We're so glad you're here Just watch my stream the only issue is that apparently I'm quieter than everybody else That's a change Yeah, there's no problems until jenzu starts compiling Uh, well fun fact. Fun fact. I'm not yet. I'm not on gen two right now. I'm on debbie and so there is So that's why you're not having any problems pretty much you fixed your computer by taking gen two off of it Okay, let's see here since I installed debbie and uh, I've had I've had to uh Temporarily enable sid so I can grab a kernel out of that that way it can have a graphical session Because the back ports kernel still still is deprioritizing until arc And then poor matt Uh, I did have I did have to recompile sway because uh, they built it with Because the current build of sway in uh stable right now does not support x-wayland and it's just a use flag So I had to grab the uh deb source source and recompile it. Uh, and then Uh, I had to get uh firefox working with the drm support so that way, you know, I can preview my stream in youtube So there there was some fixing that I had to do with debbie and I just did it all yesterday Yeah Well debbie and debbie and stable. It's just it's still linux though, you know, it's it's stable for linux, right? We have to qualify it At the end of the day is just yet another linux distribution. Yeah Now I I did want to say because a lot of you guys know I was having major issues on This workstation here at my office I was about to have to reinstall this rco linux installation that had been up and running for like three and a half years I did an update three or four days ago and all the problems went away Still have no idea for about two weeks I had a bunch of issues where certain programs wouldn't open at all Um file managers wouldn't open I didn't know what the I thought maybe it was a portals issue. It wasn't I thought it was an upstream issue It wasn't I thought it was issues with fonts. It wasn't icons. It was like I tried everything and I could not figure I mean I really spent Like probably two whole days, you know, like eight hours for two whole days trying to figure I gave up on it and I was like, you know what? I'm just going to give it a few more days because I had some things planned Matt Moral of the story just uh, just wait for a good update and and all your problems will be solved Anything no worthy in the update We've had some Christmas. It's arch. There's a kernel update every update Right so there We got matt to get his camera fixed Freakin I had to install a whole desktop environment before we even started this Okay You got your problems fixed mysteriously on on arco linux. Uh, and all we're waiting for now is is Uh, tyler's, you know, beautiful prayer to jesus before we start Let me tell you the extreme I went to an extreme to check my problems I actually because everything was working on arco linux on my home computer So I took a package list of everything installed, you know, pac-man dash qq or whatever I got every package that was installed on my home computer because it's working just fine And I installed the exact same programs and nothing else on this computer just to see It's still broken on this. I it was weird. I could not figure it out But like I said all of a sudden just magically one day everything's back to normal So I bet you it was config files somewhere that pac-man overrode in the last update. Yep That's what pac-man does for a living just over icon fig files You're you're one of those pac-man haters, aren't you? You're one of those guys. I am Because you know, I I I love package managers that support a dash f flag Wait, what does dash do? I I'm assuming he's yes Yeah, he's wanting an override. I'm assuming put it there It's called the it's called a graceful way of fixing a broken package I'm sorry. I can't let you do all the wait a minute pac-man. Yeah pac-man used to have forcible now. It's uh They changed it to a different flag. I think it's a w flag. Yeah, they have they have a flag for overriding Yeah, that's what you're trying. They got away from the forcible You can overwrite But if you're trying to overwrite an older version of a package on top of a newer version of a package It will still fail where the old that where the old dash f flag would actually just override it Right, so you can't force an overwrite. But now if you look into the source code, it's another flag It's a different flag. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying If you look into the source code for pac-man They don't advertise it but they're actually a few experimental flags that they don't tell anybody about it's not in the man page You'll never read about it. But in the source code And I've actually read it that's the only reason I found this before there are flags for various things that are not But they don't want to make it public. I guess some of these things are dangerous But they're dangerous. I would think it's really dangerous when you know But they're there for the devs because the devs want to do these things. Yeah, right. Yeah Yeah, so the only question I got to ask all of you guys In all of this other than this wonderful little chat to what heaven is What is your best video and worst video that you've put out? Do you think you're talking about quality or just uh Because if it's quality, oh I Put out some real turds. I mean, let's be I'm just saying what you feel is your best and worst video not what the metrics say Okay, this is awkward for me because you know, I I just randomly got a volunteer editor So I I legit think that one of my bet that my best Looking video is probably the last one that was actually posted that not the live stream But the home labs home labs explained video. I honestly think that iron pipe did an amazing job with that But uh since that one's still relatively fresh I'm going to say my old gnome workflow video is probably my single-handed best video that I personally have actually published Really? Yes It's also like It's also like my third most popular linux video. Well, of course. It's about a popular desktop environment. I mean I mean It's easy to get views. I mean just talk about something. If I talk about windows on a video I I know I'm gonna get views. I don't talk about windows that often but but they give views Okay, I honestly expect to get like a bunch of gnome hate comments in that video too But it's almost uh, it's almost exclusively like universal praise in the comments too because people learn something And I'm like, well, that's great What about you dt As far as you know some of the content that the videos i'm proud of Uh, I do think a lot of my terminal and command line tutorial videos Are good because of just they help people that think that stuff is impossible Or that the content a lot of times when people try to describe this stuff If it's like a boring college professor trying to teach it and you know, I'm not Quite like that. So I'm able to convey that and teach that to people Better than most I think so that kind of content is probably some of the stuff I'm most proud of some of the stuff that you know Is weaker content but gets gets views Man, I've got a video that's got like nearly three million views now how to be a linux user And and it's a two minute video two minute 44 second video. I literally Recorded in like Three minutes like I like seriously I just talked in the video. I didn't even script it really I did And then you know the editing process I added it's like a slideshow of pictures It was probably total time and that video spent was like an hour Is it just a dumb video? I do a lot of funny videos and like three million people watch it And it's like, okay, the ones I spend all the time on nobody watches it But the ones that are yeah like ridiculous Yeah, like welcome to the internet Hold on speaking of stuff like that your linux rap video That was the best open sense same thing I'm telling you there's a remix of it that I have been listening to I have I have downloaded it from youtube because I'm scared it might get deleted and it is in my playlist I I I've got a couple of remixes that people have sent me uh Of the first one I did like six years ago and then the recent one too Yeah, they're so good People have asked me hey, why don't you put that like on itunes or something? I'm like what? Are you serious? It's good I'm not gonna lie if you you know if you went out and licensed a few samples And then put a good sample underneath it you could easily I've thought about just doing like yeah get 10 or 12, you know ridiculous things together just to put an album out Yes But I was like come on that's just cringy linux the rap special d-dos this bitches Now wait a second Do you all know that there is a genre called nerdcore hip hop? No, I have heard of this exists So you do have a captive audience nerdcore rapper nerdcore hip hop Wow, we need we need matt on that one Yes What do you mean you don't you come from the area where m&m came from there's no m&m it you know ask rubbing Or I'll be golfing you over on the other side of the state, okay I remember when I was in college I went to a coffee shop that was on campus and this guy got up on stage It was like an open mic night where people read poetry or whatever Well, this guy decided he was going to share his rap song and he wrapped in in mandarin chinese And I was thinking this is this is just not right. Yeah, it just sounds weird Chinese That's funny Oh I'm sure I'm sure he had some bars, but I couldn't understand any I don't speak mandarin You're like that was dope man. That's dope. Yeah, I needed subtitles and there were none Steve what about you you put out a couple videos on your channel. Yeah I got like 34 video 54 videos on my 64 videos on my channel All right. Yeah, I'm coming back baby. I'm coming back and turn it turn it whole But besides that You guys actually check analytics and know how many videos you've done and I haven't logged into my analytics in so long I forgot about it. I forgot my coffee video. That's actually my favorite one your coffee video My coffee videos and 10 lives so okay, and what do you think is your shorts existed? Which one do you think which one do you think is your best video and your worst video? Okay, my best I think my best video is when uh, I show people how to arch root and pick Probe Because a lot of people tell me it's one of the best videos I I ever put out and they want more like that My worst video and I took it down Where was where I was Did the wrong thing and I begged for money so, um Yeah, I took that down because it was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time And I was shoving the situation 11 on down people broke that was Not the right thing to do and you learned from your own mistakes So I hit that video. I unlisted it. I Privateed it. I I'm not going to delete it because there's a lot of views on it I don't want to lose those views but That reminded me because I don't think I don't think josh or dt shared their worst ones either And if I'm going to share my worst one, we need to yeah, if you're talking worst as well as far as just bad quality I mean obviously Anything really early on in a channel's history is usually pretty bad. It'll be bad audio bad video I mean that'll be the same for everybody of Well, I usually the first video is usually really really bad well, uh Let me see if I can find it here, but it's super old video. I recorded this way back in the day This this was I I did have hair back then and I have shared this with zany He's probably seen it. Nobody else probably has but this was My first attempt at a linux youtube channel Of where I only ever posted one video and that was me installing uh ubuntu, but uh OBS studio didn't exist yet Ffmpeg was even more black magic than it is nowadays. Mm-hmm. Uh simple screen recorder was the only solution that we had Well easy solution to record the screen back in the day. That's what I used Yeah for those early videos. Yeah, it was literally so it was literally me capturing it on a On a camera on a separate machine using the good old A lot of tech c920 that had bought just brand new the day before Uh, and then uh, it's just me sitting beside a desk Pointing the camera at a laptop Right Yeah, I started the same way I recorded and That's what matters. Yeah, I started the same way with the c920 except my problem was the microphone I had at the time Was like a It wasn't even a name brand microphone It had made in china on the side, but nothing else. There were no other markings on it And I I want to say I probably paid 20 bucks for it. I I don't even know why I had it I didn't buy it specifically for youtube. I just happened to have that microphone and it was just horrible sound like I realized Within the first month or two of doing videos. I had to do something. So I eventually I think I bought a blue Yeti And it was like a million times better than whatever the hell that that microphone was because That's the one thing with with youtube is people will put up with bad video or even no video As long as they can hear you and you can get your message across but bad audio they turn off instantly like they I got a super chat on my channel. I just wanted to shout out five q Tube is his username Since then a couple bucks Greetings from a linux noob. I appreciate the uh super chat. Uh, mr q tube He just pronounced his name better than I pronounce by There's good news fellas What all right streaming and it's working my best in half an hour Nice job, sir Good. Oh, I've started streams an hour late before Yeah, the hilarious thing is in order to get to work. I had to use hyper land to do it The the we've had them before where we tried and actually I was in the philippines was recently happened and jesse tried And we couldn't even get it to do us. We had to cancel it so Dt was uh dt was in the chat for that one I think because I went live and I came down and went live came down like tried it a couple times and nobody was there and Something was wrong with the stream key And I just couldn't get it to act right Yeah, it's weird that I've had that problem today where my stream was set to unlisted but But that doesn't happen every time It's just weird that all of a sudden like somebody goes into the settings and changes it like I didn't do that Like every time I make a stream. It's always public. But it's weird that that one Yeah, I don't know you're gonna have to check the chat because I don't have the chat up. So All right. Yeah Yeah, as far as my best and worst where you telling me to go next Yeah, I'm getting ready to tell you to go next in a minute, but Steve's got to say something real quick Oh, okay. I just wanted to say something real quick one one of the Funnest videos of I've I've made on my channel not the best but the funnest one I've done was one of the episodes of Of zero bites with my boy jesse here We had some good fun videos Steve we played a game remember zonatic we played wow It was uh season two Yeah, we did that season two. We did the hour stream and then the hour of zonatic And we both were terrible at it. I was about to say how good are you guys at first person shooters? I am very good And I was And uh, I made my goal to just do nothing but kill steve And I was Yeah And I was doing that with this mouse Hmm Wait, hold on the last time we played zonatic and you were like murder at us. Yeah, you were playing with that Uh, no, I was actually using uh This one, but when I played but when I randomly joined steve one day on his because he was streaming on his channel I use this one And he massacred me he just Wiped the floor with my stuff with me. So jesse, what was your what was your best and worst? Uh, are we are we limited to linux related videos or all videos that we may have made all videos Oh man, uh So back when I did door dash content on snack ops unit My most successful video got me in trouble with door dash Because we had a snow storm And I've always done it on a motorcycle or scooter and there was like feet of snow So I just recorded a tiktok video Uh showing the weather say in something like, you know No bonus and a foot of snow f u door dash Uncensored completely uncensored And uh, it wound up getting like 5 000 views in two days And the next time I called door dash they let me know they had heard of it Holy crap They weren't allowed to do anything because I was a contractor But it was just like It's one of those things where you forget that stuff actually matters And I wanted them to see it because it was dangerous But I did not expect for them to like tap me on the shoulder like a you know casino pit boss like hey, buddy And you got to be careful when you go after billion dollar companies because a lot of times You'll immediately get a lawyer contacting you for you know, like a cease and desist Hey, you know, you said this you need to take it down or we're gonna see And That sounds like voice of experience right there Yeah, just be be be careful. That's all I'm gonna say But uh best video The the most fun that I think I've had in recent history I spent uh I spent Thanksgiving On youtube torment and my friends here and uh some youtube video Watchers on the channel Eating uh craft macaroni and cheese ice cream Oh, yeah, wow That was probably ever a bit as bad as we can imagine Yeah, if you if you guessed that I bought it at walmart you are correct well We did a thing uh on Total os today uh toss. I don't know if you guys know that content creator I used to uh hang out on some of his live streams And uh, we had a group get together one time and we were all going to try uh Vegemite on camera. So we all order a jar of veggies Oh my goodness some of the faces as people were trying to get for the It was Oh It's delicious dude. I want to start naming off random crap and see if josh can pull it out of his closet from somewhere because every time you He's always He's always Hey before talking about christmas gifts good christmas gifts vegemite. That's what gives somebody Hey, you know what I do with my vegemite. I uh take my nuggets and I dip it in the vegemite Markings I'm So if I don't do uh nuggets, I do tindies So I bought this because I was going to be on an episode of tech or tea with with brodie Yeah, and as soon as I mentioned how that I wanted to do And uh like the day before we recorded I made the mistake of asking him on on how much of a ripoff australian I could I could pretend to be and he just said just don't even try don't even People in my stream are asking if I could link to all the creators here in the description of the video Yeah, I'll do something like that. I may add some links here Obviously, I didn't I didn't know who was going to be on the stream You know just because of time zones who's going to show up So I didn't add a bunch of people and get people's hopes up and then they not be here Right So but yeah, I will do that. I didn't link everybody in mine either because like I was for the same reason So Yeah, especially I take everybody I'm going to shame them into being here. Yeah, because like it's 10 a.m. Here My time's on and I know people on the pacific, you know, it's 8 a.m. Are you really getting up for a linux stream at 8 a.m That's iffy I read matt's description matt was excellent. I love the fact he said. Oh, thank you matt He said something about how you know where it's a bunch of uh, you linux content creators getting together And bs-ing at least they're the star study or the ones that in our minds are the greatest ones are the best ones around He sent me a message. I said discord no backing out now because he showed that he'd created it and everything Shout out, we just got a new sub in the channel over here on the linux too. I want to say uh Thanks to metal. Lovey tatco. Welcome Hope you're enjoying the stream awesome Yeah, yo Yeah, baby. We need all your works so Nate You haven't made any videos yet, but you're getting ready to kick off your channel, right? Yep, Nate picks tech world is coming in 2024. Nice. You want to talk about it a little bit? Uh, I'm gonna look at uh, natus not coming through the discord Now I hear him just like I can hear him just fine. I can hear him. Yeah, I hear him. Okay So so go ahead talk about your channel, Nate So i'm gonna focus a lot more on hardware related stuff As far as linux goes And one of the biggest things that i'm gonna try to do is i want to showcase everybody's setups In linux because I think they get missed a lot A lot of people do a desktop install, but they don't actually show like everything that goes into making it work So that's kind of what i'm going to be focused on a little bit more and just some random things here and there Yeah, awesome. That's a good idea. Look forward to that first video And what's what i'm going to say is this being an old user Days and days and days and decades gone by and dt can attest to this You are starting at the perfect time when it comes to hardware because you wouldn't have had much content back in the day Because hardly any hardware used to work with linux You literally had to go to you had to go shopping You know for what you knew what worked with linux and it was very limited Uh, you had to buy a laptop you need to look at the name intel on as on as many products as you possibly could Yeah In Lenovo I was gonna add I was gonna add everybody's uh channel to the description. Everybody, uh jesse channel name. Yeah Mike is a snack ops unit. Yep. Okay and then Nate do you have anything you want to put out there? Uh, it's not out yet. So, okay, I just we'll just leave it as it is for now. He's in the middle of creating it Yeah So no, I that I think that's a great idea. I think a lot of people could could benefit from that I think you're gonna cover a niche. It's it's not really covered as much like you said And it's something that needs to be done because a lot of people are always wondering. We'll just work with linux You know, but a lot of stuff is working with linux now nicely out of the box. So that's good to hear matt All right matt my brother You're up next bro All right, um What was the question again? No, I'm just seeing Best video linux myth is a useless distro I don't even want to talk about that. So that video came out like a few days before dt called me out on his channel in March 2000 I can't hear matt 21 am I gone already? No, no, no. All right. Well, actually I Discord sucks guys. I'm just well. I was getting some weird audio issues when Nate was speaking. I mean, I could hear him, but it was Dropping in and out. Yeah, but I can't hear the uh, I can't hear matt Well, I hear him. That's weird. All of a sudden some of us can hear some of us Yesterday discord was like down for I wonder if they're still having problems They probably could be could be the servers are flooded because we're doing the stream Yeah, it could be that too Uh, anyways camera and I can't hear him Okay, I hate that linux myth video because that's like what I'm known for now Aiding on linux myth, but then I doubled down on it because just why not because it's fun. Uh, anyways the One that I In terms of views the one that I did what did the most was a video on lie the display manager I have no clue why that took off Absolutely, no clue. I guess not even video It has almost 200 000 views Wow, I did and then The weirdest one that I had that took off was a video that I did about ads on windows My third most popular videos on windows. It's hilarious My favorite one that I've ever did was the hour and a half tutorial I did on polybar Really? Yeah, that was actually good And then they push an update and move the configuration file to somewhere else Yeah, and they they changed them all to ini files and they got rid of the i3 module and moved x x workspaces It was like three days later. It pissed me off You're like you guys couldn't really waited really you could have waited Well, no, this always happens. So like two days ago I did a video on how good vivaldi is and then after I pushed published I updated they did my system and 6.5 came out with sessions and workspace rules Oh Pissed me off Steve if you can still hear us try disconnecting from discord and rejoining no dis rejoin I got another super chat and it's actually about linux mint uh from fa q2 begin He says I put men on two laptops That were given to me about about two months ago. Yeah Linux on old hardware usually works He says I watch linux vids on the main pc and follow along with the laptops Oh, come on man I'm under water. I can see you guys Your camera is buffering exactly like michael scott with that. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's what I was thinking All right, uh, you just so you guys know I have The c of linux steve. I have a minute. I have nothing I have nixos installed now. So uh I and all of my home set up everything so don't reboot not during the strength No But I can't see the the voice channel that we're in on the server They don't have that on nix yet, so It exists clearly because you're here so it's gotta be on yes But on my computer when I look in discord at the server this voice channel with all of us in it Isn't here So just join any any voice channel and uh, somebody will drag you in All right, cool. I'm leaving. I'll see you boys intersect All right, jonathan. He won't be back. I've seen this play out before We're never gonna see zany Never update or install a linux distribution while streaming. I did that one time never do it again Or recompile pipe wire or Josh or stick to it to a distribution that was worse live stream. I ever did I updated 1200 packages in the middle of a stream. Oh, look, there's tyler. It worked I will hold my opinion on that because that's literally what the point of distra hacking is So I guess I'm next according to the tiles in the hollywood tiles that we're playing here Uh, so my best video has got to be my no-barra video Um, I got so much feedback on that one. I got uh, I got a lot of I covered it very well in depth You know, a lot of people really really really enjoyed it for me The most interaction I got was on that video that was the most interacted video I think it's like at 10,000 maybe 12,000 views by now I was a very big channel and I'm still not a very big channel compared to some of the people on here But that really surprised me how well that took off. I don't know if Oh This court is a comedy of horror rubro Rubro shaggy. Wow Oh, it's fine. It's funny. It's the minute we start talking. We start having problems That is funny So let's make it. Let's make it silent Okay, thank you for the super chat. I really appreciate it. Swedish linux. Thank you for the membership Okay, so that was no-barra. No-barra did that It to me was the best video ever my worst video Actually was a short that I did but it was freaking for me. It was the worst but It took off too. And that was that eating the balut the rotted egg. No Dude Don't don't do that. Just okay. Listen, man. It's a Filipino delicacy They will not let you live unless you try it once And it's just not worth it. Just take take the death bite by you know embarrassment or whatever it is But that was that video was uh, I still can taste it right now And I yeah, my stomach's still kind of turning a little bit on that one, man Just put some vegemite on it next time I got it right here. I can send it to you I tried this with hot sauce right thinking that hot sauce would actually break this up Uh, it's like the worst egg you have ever put in your mouth Think of a rotten thousand-year-old egg and times about two and that's about what it tastes like Yeah, it was yeah, it was bad. That was my worst video ever not only because they eat it Bro, I have no idea but it's a freaking delicacy over there Legit straight up. It is a delicacy over there. It's like that is the pinnacle That is like the pinnacle of their um, merienda their snack. That is the ultimate snack over there I think it's about as bad as uh, pig knuckles here in the south Pickled pigs knuckles Pickled pigs knuckles. I've never had a pig knuckle. You're terrible with people eat them That's funny. But no, that was uh, that that literally was my worst video, man And I I don't ever want to relive that again. Never. No, thank you Tyler yeah, but it but it was a short. I mean, can you really do much with a short? I don't know that short was really really pushed I could not get that thing out of my subscription feed for like two weeks Bro, it's because so many people were liking it and thumbing it up. It wasn't It was youtube algorithm that did that. It wasn't me I know I got you know, it's funny. I keep telling like you could ask jesse and jonathan and Tyler too, I've told before what's really funny is when youtube recommends you your own videos Okay, so The funniest thing is that I never see a Short from josh unless it's about him telling me I did something wrong I see every single one of those but never any others Really? Yeah, it's hilarious. Um, I mean he makes those those shorts quite often but He's already got something to correct me about I'm always wrong Yeah, well to be fair don't don't feel like you're alone on that uh, matt we all we all feel the same way We feel that the same love from josh Josh is very good about spreading that love around And we lost and what a Tyler go. Oh, he knew he was next. That's why I told him not to reboot. He did it anyway He'd be using a real distribution Uh Next video nixos a useless distribution I really want to get some threats there Yeah, you the I went after void because the void guys man. Oh those they're here No, no, and and anything is if if he makes a video dissing on nixos Then he broke my my first live Of my comeback because the live of my comeback was going to be with him convincing me to install nixos Don't do it turns on nixos now. What's what's my life gonna be about? Actually, not bad. It's just nix does everything differently. It's just a different kind of way to do things. Yeah, it's not bad It's not good. It's just different It's so different to point where it's like the only way I can wrap my head around like Working with nixos is to just imagine that I'm not using linux at all And using what? I'm using nix. I'm not using linux. I'm yeah cromo s. I mean, what are we doing? Sorry guys, uh, I'll be back. I need I got something just for this occasion today. I found it You'll know what I'm talking about in a sec be back Okay, all of our streams are about to get demonetized. I think oh my god. Here we go We've got an idea. Oh goodness Hey, hey just just for everybody just just to let everybody know including the chat If you're afraid that my stream is going to get demonetized Just go to tinley j.com slash support and click on all the links and send me all the things I even have it. I even have names on wishlist. Please buy me the damn book shelf because nobody else has I'm out of I'm out of shelf space People keep sending me works tyler is like gone gone. Yeah. Yeah, that happens when you update How to reinstall nix? I played with nix for a little bit I've recently picked it up was playing with the for a little bit and um, I agree It is a very different horse that you got to ride but you got to figure out, you know First I forgot to figure out how to get your feet in sat in in the stirrups to get into the saddle with it You know what I mean? It's it's very very different The best way to do nix is to find yourself a nix fan and have them help you Because their documentation is horrible, but if you find someone who knows what they're doing Uh-huh, they can help you. Oh, he got beef jerky Yeah, baby I told you I told you I love beef jerky and I couldn't find any here in lebanon, but today I Suddenly went shopping with my brother and I looked at my left. I looked to my left and I know beef jerky I expected nuggets Yeah Hey guys, you forget unfortunately you piss off your boss. You're fired Yeah, unfortunately, my local mcdonalds is closed on saturdays this time of year. Yeah What? Yeah Everybody can stop for a second. Jesse, you're muted. You have to unmute yourself. Okay So after summer ends the population of my area drops dips below 500 people so Uh, suddenly everything closes at four o'clock. What do you live in nantucket? No I live in ohio All right, but Well, you see the the logic of me is saying Is that eventually great to live there No, the the reason why I'm in ohio is because we all know that ohio's eventually going to Like dominate the entire united states anyway. So just like if it's going to happen. I might as well just stay here I thought that would be lost that war I mean just to let you know just to let you know matt Ohio won the war won the war for Toledo I know I can't believe we lost to you know, you know, I lived in ohio for two years. Um And yeah, no, he's no longer living there by the way. Yeah, I'm not not there now He got he got he got sense about himself and said get out of here No, and when I said and when I said I was gonna go to to the u.s Columbus is a nice town though. It was uh, josh Are you wanting me to go to ohio? Yeah, why not? See the trick is what you do is you is you fly from lebanon to ireland and then you and then there's direct connection from ireland to cleveland Yeah, cleveland's not a nice town. Columbus is a nice town. Uh, since he's okay too. I like sincey um Never been to ohio So I just know that it's round on both ends and high in the middle Yeah, it really sucks up there by the lake too because i'm being Born in leisiana right being used to the weather down here Man that cold breeze that comes off that lake and then it's just I can't do it Lake superiors way worse Is it really? Oh, yeah Yeah, because you know southern boys we we don't have clothes for that. I mean we have light coats and jackets and things but one that's like five degrees outside, you know, it's like there's Don't have those kinds of clothes when I moved from florida up here to washington state I literally had one pair of pants. I came up here with all my shorts and tank tops That was horrible that first winter man. I had no idea because in florida winter time You're looking at 60 to 80 degrees depending on what what it's going like, you know So you don't you literally live in in shorts and tank tops and sandals, you know when I moved up here I had no cool. I was a total fish out of water. I'm gonna tell you that it was it was very eye-opening as to how cold that The the the wind could be Yeah, everyone's beaten up on cleveland, but let's just be honest with everything at least it's not gary indiana. Okay It's not gary indiana. It's fine. I drove through gary once it's uh You know how they talk about it's kind of scary and run down and it's just a complete ghetto Yeah, it actually is worse in real life than what they tell you It's the same thing that it's the same thing with flint here in michigan They tell you that it's bad. It's worse when you go there It's the same way with seattle here I know i'm gonna get a lot of hate from from any techies around here that watch me But uh, seattle's horrible that way too. It you know, they make it look all nice and pretty especially in those movies and stuff How it's all nice and pretty man, but when you get to seattle man, it's nothing but a hot mess and garbage and Just horrible everywhere. It's not good. I assume that's always hot and muggy It almost always rains Every single car is a russian piece of crap because you you're literally you're literally next to the ocean What are you talking about seattle? Yeah In the summertime you can get hot and muggy, but in the wintertime No, it's just cold and rainy and it's like that freaking mist that you get in the vegetable You feel like a vegetable in the produce department because it's a really fine mist, you know So it's just misting all the time. It's cloudy and gray and miserable Yeah, I think you see the sun once every year for three weeks in the summertime And yes every car is rusted out here just because of the sheer volume of water It's it's impregnated into it from just sitting you all the time under water So this sounds wonderful. I don't know why anybody would complain. Why would you want to live anywhere else? Yeah, no, uh, why would you want to order last gross? who Hey, just take the bus right In the auto body business man, I made a lot of money doing that. I made a lot of money Driving cyber trucks pretty soon because that thing probably won't rust pretty much Uh, I won't be Why won't you be You don't turn band the the town band the cyber truck because it's an eyesore Wait, I'm sorry What? Yeah, you're hold on Small towns do that if you great and yet they can make laws that stop you from driving around things that look bad to them Well, the entire village is an hoa. That's probably all right. Yeah small towns. That's what that sounds like If you've never lived in a really small town This is normal like they'll ban things that you know, you can't have a walmart here You can't have a mcdonnell like they just like they want their little picturesque town with their little red brick cobble streets. They don't want anything to ever change right, it's I guess I live in a very small like a different kind of small town because like here like if you have an hoa Selling that house is going to be way harder than if it didn't have an h like no one wants hoa Is no one wants? There's a secret to this town that i'm in only 30% of Only 30% of the homes are permanent residents. Everything else is just air b&b new Yeah, okay, that's gonna drive up the ranch forever Yeah, why would anybody go to ohio and rent up air b&b? You must have been in my head because I was thinking the exact same thing I mean if you're gonna rent an air b&b you go to some I mean, you know some place warm or some place where there's actually something. I mean If you at least if you're gonna go to ohio at least, you know, but nice places It's an ad here something that oh don't ohio nice places have hotels though. That's the thing You know This town he's talking about probably doesn't have a legit hotel. You'd have to Probably the haunted one Had in that maybe was a little shady The kind of ann you'd see gordon ramsey go to to try to fix up but The owners of a nazi Hotel hill. I remember that series. That was great. Yeah Tyler now that you're back in and you're steady on the stream here now. What was your best and worst video? Me yeah, you're tired No, the other time forget your name He's like well, no, I was distracted because I realized that somebody Somebody forgot to share an announcement in my server sir, if you look There's two announcements for me one from yesterday and one from today Never mind. Wait. No, wait. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah, never mind. Okay. Yeah, never mind I just misread it never mind muted Uh, my my worst video is pretty easy Because I started off my channel before I was doing linux content. I was doing gaming content and so there are videos and Um live streams that exist. I've I think I've tried to scrub them I I don't know if you can easily find them, but I know they stress where I'm playing fortnight And I'm having a great time Great time he sounds I wish Well, okay. Look I should be ashamed. I was I was having a lot of fun with fortnight and I wasn't doing anything cool in fortnight like I was I was a Bad player that was good against other bad players Like if you put me up to someone who knew what they were doing or kawab build Like my best friend I I was like I stopped playing fortnight because I started playing with good players And I was like, yeah, no this game sucks Be honest, did you rage quit? Yeah, I have a funny thing is Is I pulled up the good old fashioned a youtube search bar and I typed in zany og fortnight And I think I found a fortnight stream already So this is before you knew what zero ad was Uh, no, I know I knew what zero ad was. I just wasn't playing it. It was before he knew how awesome it was Yeah, yes exactly So that like that those are my worst videos mainly just because I don't like them like personally I very much don't like them Um, because you're still I think my best video that I've ever done Is probably not it's not just one. It's my series of videos on open bsd Um, mainly because I had a lot of fun doing those videos like a lot. It was really fun to dive in and learn Uh, I learned a lot about bsd and not like not just open bsd I learned a lot about free bsd and just bsd in general And that was a lot of fun and it did actually help people There was a lot of people that those are the best videos zany has and it's the best story about zany's channel Because he was using bsd got called out by mental outlaw and then started using linux again Yep He called you out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He gave me a shout out No Yeah, he was like the best bsd channel and by that time tyler was sorry he was on windows right the next week Oh, we give him so much shit on our podcast because every once in a while He'll just show up using windows and then there was like two week period where he was an outlaw and boy Yeah, we jumped the apple. I remember that Oh Well, we had that discussion the other day With tyler about the evils of apple We won't get into that. It was a very heated discussion I'm still waiting for tyler to convince me to buy an apple product I don't I don't think you should go buy like for you it makes no sense to buy an apple product It doesn't make sense for anybody to buy an apple product. No, it does it does if you're an audio engineer or producer like If you go anything other than apple, you're literally insane. Well, let's be be fair if if all you do is audio Then linux is probably the worst operating system, but you know what windows is not really good either Windows is just bad. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I could see mac for that Is worse than linux if all you're doing is well It depends in which is like see this is where audio gets really weird Especially when it comes to a debate about whether windows or linux is better because it depends on your use case You might use it again or off on windows but if you if you want like Like if if you're going to be adding like layers like kind of generalized effects over your audio Then linux might be better because you can't do system-wide echo cancellation over an input or output on windows Technically you you can do it with some fancy audio routing and stuff But it gets way more complex than it would be on linux But even then I don't know the aspect of software that you Linux is pretty complicated Like when you get into things like jack and you know the whole patch bay thing where you're trying to You know direct various audio sources. Is it like it's The whole thing's a mess Let let me jump in here with you know I'm the pipe wire fan boy And that gets it a lot closer to a mac audio experience in my in my usage You're not doing all that routing yourself and you could pull the the jack libraries in through pipe wire too And it just handles it like it's any other Audio stream because even people that are fanboys of jack I don't think any of them really like using jack Are there like it's boys of jack like it's it's so complicated and it's just a yes a fanboy of jack. I would say Uh, i'm foe If you guys watch him. Yeah No, he likes jack He likes jack because it works He likes rdorm more than he likes jack, but rdorm requires jack Yeah, but yeah, you have to use jack to make pipe wire work and it just didn't work for him I think he's currently using pipe wire now Oh Go ahead. Steve. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right. I wanted to say something along the lines of what zany just said The echo cancellation in pipe wire works jack shit At least for me They fix all the issues with it. I think you're right now Then it's working just fine. I took your config. All I did was I took your config Compared to mine. It's identical Put it in pipe wire in dot config pipe wire thing Literally when I select the echo cancel source in kitty settings zero audio echo cancels sink in output Zero output Don't work for me headphones headphones work Whatever magic you're trying to do just not gonna work. It's unreal Tyler keep your dog away from your headphones Or you can live life like me not give a hill and it worked I really took your config and it didn't work for me. So I was like Screw that shit because pipe wire all I have in zero onyx is pipe wire I don't have anything. I don't have special anything. I didn't do anything special I didn't touch pipe wire with a 10 foot pole to modify it other than how the way the way it's ship So I don't get it. So audio or linux. I agree is a nightmare. That's all I wanted Well, you know what though? There is hope though. I'd like to remind everybody there is hope you got two big-time major players That do studio grade which is focus right and pre saunas that have picked up and are starting to support developers And they're putting money behind the audio Audio portions of of linux and different aspects pipe wire would get better, but That so I mean that's coming down the pipeline They just started like maybe four months ago started putting money into this stuff. So I mean, it's going to get better It's going to get a lot better. Hopefully a lot sooner Hopefully the the only problem is When it comes to comparing linux to mac when it comes to audio It's going to be a long time before audio engineers and those kind of people start choosing Linux over because we've got a lot of ground to cover to catch up because Like apple has paired apple has spent so much money on engineers for their audios like subsystem Well, apple has always marketed itself for um multimedia use like that's like that's it's That's the audience they've always tried to capture and that's why yeah In the film industry, they use nothing but mac Josh you have a request over in our chat People are saying how about a distro hacking mac osx? Oh Is you need to hop to my discord channel and post it in the suggestion thread and hope to pray that everybody votes for because I'm not voting for that In my chat people are asking me to uh run tyler in a game of zero ad. I've done that so many times. So All right, come on Come on now I was just gonna say actually one thing that pre saw us is focusing on and I think a lot of people are not taking into account Is that streamers Since the steam deck and since valve A lot of people that are actually moving to linux and streamers need audio And one of the biggest thing that pre saw us is pushing right now Is they're streamed uh cards that they have And so that's going to be a big thing and I think that's what's going to help propel Audio and linux in general and by the way, uh zany is a cheater because I was new to zero ad And I was on dts team and he went to yeah first knew that I was that I was new And so yeah, you're a cheater. Yeah. Yeah, we both got taken out on that same stream You know what Alex, I had to go through you to get to zany. All right zany has left the stream on that You were collateral damage. Yeah, it was collateral damage. Josh. Josh destroyed me Yeah, it is really bad when somebody tells you it's their very first game of zero ad Which is a very complicated game and then you just go and attack them immediately. That's like, yeah Free populate. They were getting good at picking berries. They weren't repopulating for crap I'm like, what's wrong with these broken ladies? He's gone you guys what did he got we what do we do dude? Well when he got called out he left Did he just rage quit? No, no, I think he had a nix the west issue again. I hope he didn't reboot again He said Patrick was good and then this is the payback Wow, maybe maybe he's going to go get his mac But no it I do think that the the audio server realm is going to get a lot better because also like another thing studio one actually put out an actual Full-on suite for it too. Uh personistic with studio one for linux. So you can actually go get that now They're not supporting it yet though. They're not supporting it yet, but it's still there. So it's starting That's a beta product. So why would they support it? Right in fair enough and they went all and they went all in into wailin. They don't support x11 Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so I mean they're they're I said I really wailin sucks Well, I mean if you're about wailin if you're just now getting into supporting linux I mean you're going to target the most popular distributions You're going to be targeting people using genom as a desktop environment which which defaults to wailin and pipe wire Like that's just what you're going to do. You're not you can't please everybody Yeah, you can't unless you've already been doing it, but you're you're not going to yeah well actually You're you're it depends on what what your product is because qt is is a very popular framework for professional applications And it works on windows just as well as it works on on linux and the code is portable between the two operating systems the only thing that the only thing that actually Uh that you would actually have to modify is just your core application itself So there's actually a lighter tax If your if your applications are written in qt to write it to uh port it to to linux and And stick with qt rather than is to write it with gtk Or you could just use electron like everybody's doing now or what's that one that canonical is doing such an ass Flutter flutter, that's a flutter. Yeah, all flutter is not a toolkit. No, but uh malli kit You could do malli. Yeah, I was gonna say malli kit too Uh malli kits malli kits really just a front end for qt There you go now I got another super chat from mr. Fa q tube Um He does it just so you have to read the name I'm doing it slow. I don't want to trip up any algorithms here and get the stream taken down YouTube has been complaining about weird thing. Yeah, uh, he says he builds his own pc So mac is a non-starter for him. Well, obviously. Yeah, that's the problem with mac is you have to buy the hardware and the software kind of All from the same company. So yeah, yeah true, but And when people talk about max You do have to specify are you talking about the mac? Like if you're talking about the hardware you're talking about the software because they're two very different things I don't like the mac os for example Like when I say, you know, I I can't stand mag is usually I'm talking about the operating system not necessarily anything hardware related Yeah, and I noticed lately that more and more you mean the function or oh, sorry You mean it? Yeah But that was right jessie. Yeah Oh, go ahead. Just oh, okay. Yeah, people are randomly muting for me still but uh When you say you don't like it. Do you not like the aesthetic of the os? Do you not like the function of the os is it both? That's the uh, the flexibility The the ability is not there. It's not as like even compared to windows It's just so locked down and you know, it's That's not for somebody like me is way the wrong operating system like it's Nowhere near what I want out of an operating system. I don't like to look or feel of it at all. I you know, I just Yeah, I mean that I don't like the aesthetics, but that's that's subjective. I mean for me also it Maybe it's just me, but my it feels like it's slow It is Okay, it's heavy. It's it's heavy, but windows is heavy, you know I think windows is faster than mac It actually to me operates faster than mac. Oh boy. Steve's showing his mac. Let's say this I will say this and steve is holding it up The biggest thing that bothers me with apple is they'll sit there and say, oh, we have invented this new thing We're using this new chip All you have is your crappy firmware on it That somebody else is making the chip and uh that same that's we've already had on android windows for like four years ten years It's just now feature That bothers me But be honest Well, that's just marketing bs. That's that's that's normal, you know, yeah They all do that so what I what I was going to say was These days in a lot of Areas around me. I noticed that more people tend to go towards mac these days and they're giving up Since since the invention of windows 11 More people are gravitating towards max Yeah, I think a lot of people are waiting for windows 12 Yeah, I would say And it comes with a pre-installed system that just works out of the box without hassle without even thinking about it On that 20 hours of battery life is really hard to beat like you can't get that on windows Like you just know you can take get a yes the hardware is expensive But you go there you know, you're gonna get that battery to last you for a couple days And hibernation and sleep and yeah and all that stuff you get them working right out of the box on windows Excuse me. No, uh, and yeah, but the question would be though. It's getting there the sleep and hibernation thing It's getting there on Linux, but it's not there yet Yeah, but see this this is this becomes more than just uh Solfer related this actually becomes hardware related because you're going you're compared to x86 versus arm Right well this one and windows microsoft can't do arm yet. They just No, it's gonna be incapable of it Not that linux does that much better by the way I mean you think that it would given that the android exists, but Yeah, so yeah, that's that's a good that's a good That you said that because We've had arm for ages in android and yet linux on arm is Where is it? It's it's math. Well, I mean some distributions have a pretty good arm Version i'm like manjaro arm is pretty good Uh debian obviously has architecture for it as well Hold on. Hold on. Just because you brought it up. Let's talk about the fact that manjaro arm is better than manjaro Yeah, oh josh is gonna go get another prop It's probably a pine book. I've got one too that runs manjaro arm and yeah, it's This is a pine phone with manjaro arm on it and oh for real. How do you like your pine phone? it's The phone is fine manjaro arm is garbage I'm running manjaro arm on my up highs as well Is that a nintendo it's a nintendo No, it's uh raspy inside. Yeah the case I got you Getting a linux phone I was thinking about getting the pine phone And I've all and I've wondered if it's worth the investment or not Okay, so I did not buy this one of my patrons bought this for me and I've been using it now for three weeks or so It is it's fine Right as long as you go into it knowing that this is a linux phone and with everything that goes along with it You know, you're not gonna get all you know it's not a piece of metal and glass so the the build quality it's plastic but it feels nice The software as long as you temper your expectations and know what you're getting into going in and you're not expecting iOS or android, you're gonna be fine Uh, if you're using a smart phone, you're using a glorified feature phone That's that's what you want to think about it right You want to choose your phone? So how does so so I'm more okay. I'm old All right. I'm old and all I'm worried about is can I pick up the damn thing and have a reliable phone call happen on it? You know what I'm saying? You can do more. I was gonna say does uh emacs work on it. If emacs works on it, that's all Emacs doesn't work on it. Yes. I knew the answer to the question Because emacs runs on everything Okay, so my phone right now uses swmo which is basically just like d the uh hyperland version of dwm for for uh the phone And that's oh no kidding Wow That's what the free software foundation needs to do. They need to put out an official emacs phone They would make so much money Uh They would make tens of dollars All right, we're gonna have three videos of dt saying this is my config. Yeah You would have the little onscreen keyboard you would just have to do a couple fingers at a time. I guess Just start smashing the buttons I Are we really ready for phone dot files? Yes, oh, yeah Dude x monad on the pine phone Oh, no The most useless cell phone Wait, actually like i'm not gonna lie If we started making tiling window manager phones all we need to do is bring back the old droids You know those dope phones with a nice touchscreen that's slid out to a nice physical keyboard Oh, you mean like to like to like to kick for like the lg kick or whatever? If you go back like the no gsi kick Uh, the Motorola droid 2 like i'm pretty sure that was the one that had like it had such a good keyboard on it Like it was great too. Yeah Yeah, we need to bring that back That was good. They don't have they just What about what about if you get the touchscreen version on the blackberry that has a little nub? So you can at least use your mouse too if you need to Yeah, oh my god. Oh, I like those ones. I like those ones Lenovo makes one with a nipple Well demonetized already I do I do want to bring you guys in on my hardware problems So i've been like like leaving the discord cutting in and out and all that stuff so um I am the bright guy who thought it would be an amazing idea yesterday to start a project of switching over my hardware Um, i'm going to start slowly upgrading my computer. I'm getting a better server put in place for the house Uh, and i'm also going to be using some of the spare parts That they're still really nice parts, but using that to upgrade my buddy's computer and give him something for christmas so I've switched over here. I'm using right now. I'm using an intel i9 9900k I've got 64 gigs of ram and like, you know new motherboard. I've got my same gpu Hard nvme drives all that stuff. It's it's nice Now last night apparently I don't remember doing this at all But apparently I went in and did a whole bunch of extra overclocking stuff that I don't remember doing Um, I know I set my ram to run the xmp profile And gave it a slight slight bump In speed because I know all of the ram sticks in there. They're like corsair dominator platinum So like, you know, they're like they're good. It's good ram. So I can without giving it any more voltage I can bump it up like 100 extra megahertz. No problem. Like good. Let's get the extra performance I definitely paid for it. Let's do that. So I Was having all this crashing. I assumed it was because I overclocked my ram. I bumped it down still having issues I just figured out last night. I set my cpu to have an overclock of five gigahertz So that would be why I was having so many stability problems You know Like you say I need you on my first episode for hardware Exactly Because I'm gonna do an episode. What would Tyler do do the opposite? That's the title. Well by the time that episode's out I'll be able to talk about all the things that you shouldn't do like, you know Overclocking your cpu to five gigahertz right before you go to sleep for the night Um, that's probably a good thing not to do We're in the middle of a stream. Yeah Yeah, hang on a second here guys, let me pull up my ctl call and overclock my gpu real quick Oh Nothing's ever gonna go wrong with that. No, I I'm so bad. I like the time before like the time before I left um Last time I I unplugged my extras. I've got two gpu's in the system now So I unplugged my other AMD gpu thinking maybe it could be drawing too much power or something which it should I've got plenty of power supply, but Anyway, you know, I figured maybe maybe that's causing issues. Nope Still still Yeah, no, it would be that five gigahertz overclock. I have a feeling That's war you haven't done you're you're trying to get every frame you can out of zero ad, right? Is that what you're trying to do? Just hoping that maybe just that he can beat dt finally Finally, yeah Dude, you do know that if he ever beats dt, we're all gonna hear it, you know Oh He's beating me before I actually don't play zero ad very often. The only time I really play zero ad is usually with tyler The problem with With me beating derrick is normally Hang on guys So I've got to pet the kitty If it's josh and bring your nuggies it didn't bring any nuggies you don't have What about the tindies? Oh, I need all of you. I want some pop eyes tindies now. That's what I'm gonna do for lunch. I think Handies. Oh, let me quick door dash some nuggets right now. I could do that Oh Door dash me You know what you could put with your with your attendees uh, you can get some just let you guys My gpu was running at the maximum clock speed of 2100 megahertz now we're running 2800 megahertz and we'll see how long it lasts Okay, I'm sorry, but you said you said Hidden valley ranch ice cream That we had talked about that in the past and I genuinely I have a video up on my channel of me trying it Why would anybody want to eat ice cream it tastes like salad dressing Especially ranch now if it was thousand island that would be interesting, you know I do it purely for attention and it didn't even work. It was terrible. It was I think that I screams against the janitor convention. It's horrible Some of the ideas they have for flavors of stuff is just stupid So they have popcorn flavored ice cream Bacon flavored ice cream like these things don't go in ice cream. Okay. No, I've got I've got a I've got dill pickle sitting in my freezer for the next one The only flavor that is a true sin against god Is bacon flavored toothpaste that is Like Are you serious? Does this even exist? Are you for real? Yes. Yes bacon and everything Why don't I just put vegemite on your toothbrush if you're gonna do that? I'm seeing bacon for I've seen bacon scented soap Wow, yeah, it's for remember you need to hire a marketing company Just hire the marketing company behind whoever's done the bacon thing and the avocados I just found the bacon flavored toothpaste on amazon That's offensive. That just hurts me to the core the soap one. I didn't even know about and that is Well, that makes sense. You could just make soap out of pork fat and you know You guys are talking food and the and the only thing I can think of is lechon Well, I don't I don't think we're talking about oh lechon is good making flavored toothpaste food Oh, yeah, you're the luckiest person on the channel because I'm dreaming to try that Lechon is oh, it's very good. Very very good. Unfortunately, mr. Alex D ball This is not a gen two stream But it is being piped through a cert through a vps server that is running gen two He should know it's not a gen two streamer The fact that we're streaming should be obvious. It's not a gen two stream The fact of it working Alex can you can you tell the wife to send me a lechon? I don't think it'll well, I could try but uh between your customs holding and and you know the time for for shipping and stuff It might be spoiled by the time it gets there You know the people have ate it I'm dreaming to try lechon. I have when you could probably put it on dry ice and it could be okay Depending on for the people wondering what lechon is it's low-cooked Basically, it's a Filipino delicacy. It's a slow cooked pig. It's a pork. Yeah with with the with a with a variety of Glazing on it and spices on it. It's delicious and they put honey In the rice they put a little bit of honey in the rice and they do a lot of Yeah, you look at it and you say jump in my mouth right now Yeah, I want one. I want one so bad. I've seen videos, but I and I've had so many Friends from the Philippines tell me about it. My mouth my mouth my mouth waters every time I'm like, where can I get some while where I was working in Dubai? That's not Something they eat pigs are not no, you probably can't get a lot of pork in Dubai. Yeah Would you say matt You don't want to know Be monetized in three you two You know what I keep checking to make sure we're still streaming Because I'm I'm expecting it I haven't taken on yet I don't that much. Yeah, we're we're still kicking Because we're doing awesome. That's why yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we gotta we're gonna have to stop talking about food for a minute Because I have a family reunion that I'm gonna head to right after this and they're probably all getting Ready to eat right about now And like why are you streaming from the family reunion? The the the better question is he does remember that there's another podcast after this, right? Yes, okay But I still I'm still going to a family reunion after and going to have great food I got a contact email The other day from youtube saying they were Taking down one of my videos because it had a spammy link in the description Which I didn't know apparently youtube does this now is they scan the links in your description And if it leads to any kind of website that they deem kind of Spammy They'll take your videos down which I was weird because google's a trillion dollar company Why not just if you're scanning the link anyway, just remove the link from the description without me having to do it But if something it was a link to some project on github or something something that doesn't exist anymore redirects to some other side or whatever That's just redirect. They're they're bot. You know, it's just weird. Yeah scam Yeah, but still youtube it's just a mess With this stuff like but what what what alternatives do we have for it? besides odyssey Odyssey and rumble. I mean that's really the only two that are reasonable So speaking of which My only means of Getting donations Has been taken down My area of kofi fundraiser I cannot access Well, I think it's because they're on cloudflare I think we talked no it has nothing to do with cloudflare. I talked to them They replied to me saying well, we had to take we have we had to disable Well, jessie knows I sent him the message. It's like your area is no longer supported We no longer support your area because of the things that are going on because because of legal and whatever Reasons we had to block block your access to our website Oh, good fun. Good fun Like i'm like, uh, hello, how do I check? We're gonna get a vpn Well, I tried for they they flagged my account. They were like we detected Yeah, they're gonna be smart enough to yeah, they're not Yeah, they they block anyone who tries to circumvent their blockage So I'm like, what am I going to do? Well, I can still receive donations, but I won't be able to check I won't be able to verify. I cannot do anything anymore I want to post things on kofi and fundraiser. I can't anymore because I can't access the website and Oh, well, that's that's unfortunately a sad part about living in a war torn region like you are Yeah, yep People don't want to have to pick a side Yeah, they just Are becoming I'm becoming a little bit my area is becoming a little bit like uh, I ran because I ran they cannot access anything flatbacks You are or anything like that they cannot access Interesting now like the only district where like the repositories work is debbie and that's just because there's a guy in iran that actually Runs a package server for debbie and then I ran Yeah And looking at my uh analytics since we were talking about analytics. I still have two videos of mine Years I've been for years. I've been trying to get these videos monetized They're demonetized because I don't know one of them is a cutile video that has been demonetized for five years And I've appealed it and they reject it and they don't want to hear it from me anymore X monad there's another another video about X monad configuring X monad There's nothing in these videos of me me Programming in high school and when one and programming and python and you know, I don't even use foul language in my videos like why in the hell are the and the well, we reviewed it and What's the problem? They won't tell you it's just it's demonetized I don't think they ever review them. I think they're lying. I don't think there's any kind of system in place I had uh, I had a video that of mind it they took down Because of what the content was it was uh discussing streaming tv. I can't say Oh, yeah, you got to be careful with any kind of uh stuff like that. You can't anything that circumvents YouTube and ads and things like that any of those kinds of services command line programs gui programs So, uh, don't discuss any of them. Don't make a video on any of those because that video is Just better to never make a video on youtube about youtube on youtube at all on youtube. Yeah No, no mine was mine was what that was what this video was was a video of hypnotics and how you can actually Set it up to to stream live tv Through different services that probably oh, yeah that like There's probably a legality. Yeah. No, it's no legality like it's because it's omar You're still paying you're still paying for the tv access The problem is is that is a direct competitor to youtube tv youtube tv. Obviously can't They're not gonna be fine with you But also omar on their own platform a lot of people a lot of people don't know who omar is but omar was a Person who sold those tv services and used youtube to promote that And had millions of subscribers and he's now in prison for something I don't know what but so it's kind of a black eye for youtube too And the minute that you flag that you type in the eye and then the the acronym of what it stands for I don't want to say it because I don't want to get in trouble again But anyhow the minute the minute you do that dude, it'll flag it automatically I had no idea about this because I I replied to them and that's what they told me they gave me the explanation Which is I thought was wild that they actually gave me an explanation Mr. Baba, we are not all doing a linux mint challenge for next year No Oh That's a horrible package. I've got the sticker. It's got my fanboy got the sticker I've got a little gecko. It says susan on it Well then stop running gen two man. You're disrespecting the gecko. I've got two of them. Wow I've got two of them. I even have a cup. I have like a first first aid kit Uh, I think I have a flashlight Well, if I had to reinstall gen two on that computer where the gecko can see it Just just do it to it like come on Larry the cow If my updates had not fixed my problems and I had to reinstall which I was planning to do I actually was not going to go with arch or an arch based district for real I was actually planning on doing debbie and stable just because I was sick of all the headaches Wow It's exactly what I and I still may at some point No, you need to look I'm tired of the rolling I'm gonna be that person that everyone hates because I'm I'm just now like getting Super into nixos Oh, I played with nix before I actually uh really played a lot with geeks before I'm Doing nix, but uh, it's interesting But at the same time It it's not full proof as far as like it never breaks on it It's always your fault, you know playing with the configs and things But Every time I break my system. It's always my fault But yeah, it worked the problem the only reason I wouldn't go with either nix or geeks software availability is not Anywhere near what debbie and an arch are Well, it's just not yeah actually the nix that's wrong actually repose repositories actually bigger than debbie and Yeah, it's what he's talking about. I don't think yeah I'm I'm I'm talking about like popular programs that you wanted I mean, I'm not I'm just talking about the numbers there They you are as the I don't know if it's the biggest or the second biggest repository That doesn't really mean all that much. Yeah about 90 of that is going to be libraries. So right Yeah, well, but I haven't found a pack How to install the software that's really it Well, I haven't I haven't found a package in nix os that that's available in the a you are that isn't available in nix os like Everything all of your themes fonts like uh, I mean even steve asked me like a couple like weird things that he didn't think it would have And it was there like it has Like their package availability is really good the problem with nix os that I see Like for most people is it's so different like you can't It's so different than how you would normally run a distribution Like you don't just install applications on a whim in a terminal and expect them to stick around Like that that's not how it works Um, I'm actually obligated right now. I'm sorry tyler real quick To mention that dt is not bald. He actually has hair. That is true Yes, it says dt on not on arch what it what next dt with hair. Come on That's the new year's resolution I'm gonna grow out my hair google rant real quick I want to do a google rant. I just created my new channel right right They've already suspended it and deleted it What did you do? What did you do? Probably because he's on the stream The very first live stream I ever did uh, I I actually was banned in the middle of like 15 minutes into the live stream And then I had to appeal and I was like, hey, what are you guys doing? And they were like, we don't know You're unbanned. I was like, okay. Well, thanks Thanks for running the stream though because no chance we're we're hitting that streaming button again It was like two months after that that I tried to stream again Nick did that um that giveaway or whatever a couple years ago where he got his old channel this joint because of that Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, they're bad about giveaways You don't want to be doing any kind of raffling or you know What they get pissed about is Creating giveaways to get subscriber You know, it's it's nice that we're talking about this because if there's people out there, they're thinking about starting a channel They need to they need to hear this kind of stuff because they don't know the fine line that we really want Don't ever do giveaways only because legally speaking that puts youtube in a very big like once you start doing giveaways That's essentially sweepstakes and laws apply to that Yeah, a lot of local laws have problems with raffles and lotteries and things. So Yeah, you can't do any of that. Yeah Literally the reason why nick's uh channel got taken down was simply because of uh of a law in rhod island About kind of concerning sweepstakes. That was really it And it's like he's in france. How does it how is he supposed to know that? Well, it's not even that look youtube like there's there's different laws for sweepstakes based off of uh, Like a hundred different jurisdictions just inside of the us alone and youtube operates globally So they have to take everything into account and they just can't so Instead of trying to manage it all and make sure everything is up to par legally Everywhere that the video is being distributed. They just go no just get rid of it It's not allowed So okay, okay. I don't know what happened. I guess somebody at google was actually awake, but i'm back You you were there, you know, you're back That's funny. Yeah, I remember when I first started my channel like the first year or so I probably had a hundred videos Like straight in a row that I made that as soon as I published them were demonetized the minute I published them Mm-hmm for for almost like an entire year every single video was demonetized as soon as you're the reason why youtube has that You can't get monetized until after a thousand subscribers. You're the one that made that happen No, because that was in place before that but I had got the ability to be monetized and then still Everything you publish is getting yeah, and now it wasn't just me It was that problem existed all over youtube with other people Wasn't that like wasn't that during the time period where they were like They were actually banning a lot of open source content like creators They had a lot of problems with people that talked about linux for some reason at the time. I don't know Uh, that was also around the time that they pretty much meant everybody that mentioned bitcoin Microsoft as well they they didn't want anybody to eat, you know, like there were channels that you know Hundreds of thousands of subscribers that were just banned all of a sudden one day Because well, we don't want people talking about that I think I think what happened here in that time period was save the kids save the kids from bitcoin Looking back on that time period That's probably the best decision they could have made keeping kids away from crypto and nfts was probably a good decision Um, and I think they probably should have stuck to their guns more more about it because I mean just the amount Well, also, so a lot of those are scams But the biggest problem too is like, I don't know what the problem is in uh, I have 100 billions of a piece of a bitcoin Yeah, the problem isn't that necessarily uh bitcoin or blockchain or nfts. They're not a scam. They're just technology The problem is the people a lot of the people that make content about it on youtube are just straight up scam artists Well, yeah, yeah, and those have always existed. It's just that's that's the easy scam to run I'm gonna create my own token I'm gonna sell it to you guys and as soon as all of you guys put all of these hundreds of thousands of dollars Into this token I'm gonna take out All the money that I staked it with so the whole thing collapses and I just rob everybody of their money And then the token is So I have I have a question for all of you guys we can just talk about this. What is the weirdest Sponsorship email you've ever received Oh Oh KFC deodorant I had it kfc does KFC deodorant Wow, does the sponsorship offer have to be legitimate or can we also mention skating? Literally anything it doesn't matter. Okay, all the ones that I get I've gotten a lot of scams and obvious scams I I mentioned this last night, but I but I literally got a sponsorship offer for sex toys Hmm I got I got one offer That was and I'm not this was not a scam like this was actually a legit company like they reached out talked to me called me They wanted They wanted me I'm not going to mention the brand at all but or the company, but they wanted because I mean They were really nice people, but it was clear that they like Whoever was over their department of like trying to do marketing clearly was just not doing their job at all They wanted me to promote a weed eater On my channel They wanted me to do a review And keep the weed eater in some of my videos and I was like Yeah Just put it right there in the corner behind you bud Okay, I've heard of I've heard of actually similar ones to that now I didn't get the weed eater one, but I have gotten somewhere It's obvious the person at this company Never ever even took a look at what my channel was about because I have gotten Many offers from software companies that want me to promote their Software some of it's pretty popular pieces of software people would know about That doesn't have a linux version It's like Wait, what? Are you are you serious right now? Yeah, I mean And but but the craziest one I got one about a men's haircare products It's like You have no idea Who you contact that was sent that was sent to you by your patreon homie's not bought is that what it was? It was a joke joke sponsorship offer I thought alex was about to say that was from me. I was trolling you The the best scam one that I've ever gotten was this dude who was uh, he was trying to pretend to be a Microphone company not tz audio because that's a very popular scam Like I think a lot of us have probably seen that because I'm talking with them right now actually No, well, I mean oh the scam artist or the actual company the actual company. Good. Good. Good. Well, but anyway, so It was this microphone company. Um, I can't remember who's pretending to be I can't remember the company. It wasn't audio technico or like, you know, any of the other like big ones I think no, that would be a big sponsorship if you get audio technica But anyway, so he was trying to pretend this audio company, but the email was completely wrong Like I mean like totally blatantly wrong So I tell him like, you know, I'm like, hey man, you might if you want this scam to work You probably need to change the email And me and him go back and forth for like five minutes Him trying to convince me that he's not a scammer And then then finally just Explodes I mean start screaming like he like all his emails like do all caps like, you know Every swear word all caps like he's telling me how much of a piece of shit I am and then he's linking all of like comments for my videos that like You know, like they're not bad comments. They're not like hating on me, but like, you know, they're like Like I you could have done this video better or whatever and he's like linking all of these in the email Right the hell is wrong with this dude like So for me I got two of them that were scams one was for a raspberry pie That they were selling on amazon and they wanted me to buy the pie and then do the review and then they would refund me the money And i'm like and and it was one and it was one and it was one where it was literally the most expensive raspberry pie on the market I'm like, what are you nuts? I'm like, no, I don't think so and then I had another one that was sent to me That was for a car park Uh For a jeep. Yeah, like uh an accessory that you add onto a jeep and i'm like these people don't even know what my channel's about I'm like, maybe maybe they might have been in there and maybe heard that I talked about car parts They were owning a body shop before or whatever. I don't know one of the live streams But it was for a car park. I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to do that either Well, I imagine a lot of these guys have got they get a list from a marketing company You know a collection of emails and Yeah, there's a lot of False positives. I guess they think they're marketing to like Auto park channels, but it's you're a linux channel, right? Yeah They should the the button that youtube uses to cover up your email on the about page isn't all that, you know Hard to get around by bots Oh I mean the button's there to reveal it to people who want it not to just give it out to everyone and like that That whole like method methodology is like no If someone wants to write a script to go through and pick up a whole bunch of different content creators emails Like that button's not a hard system to write a script to get around I mean inspect element. It just shows it. So, you know, exactly. Yeah, right something to click the button It just is there you can just scrape it. Yeah, but um Someone in Distro tubes chat said just be polite and let the dude scam you come on I totally We'll see like my thing like I have a funny policy about scammers Or like annoying like annoying telemarketers like instead of being rude or just not talking to them I'll sit there and give them advice about how they could do their job better. Yeah Yeah, I'm like I'm like, look if you're gonna continue doing this at least have some respect and put some effort behind what you do If you're gut like look, I don't support scamming. I think that's go all in baby You're literally a pos if you scam someone. However, if you're going to scam my mama taught me if you're gonna do anything You do it good. So yeah, absolutely Come on Happy while you steal my money Well at the very least like if you're like if you're going to scam At least make the scam good enough that I can't immediately know it to scam in five seconds Like yeah Come but here's here's the thing with scammers though Many people don't realize this a lot of times these scammers They don't really try to hide the fact that they're scamming like because they're targeting Like the dumbest people on the face of the earth Right. So they they actually want it to be a many of them want it to be a little obvious That's a scam because they don't want smart people to be taken in by it because those are the people that might actually come back at They really want like the dumbest of the dumb to fall for their scam. That's that that's their filter Yeah, I was I was going to say that one I only got one because my channel is so small I only got one That person wanted me to advertise a tool that he created for linux and the windows and macOS At least yours has to do with the content that you do Well, let me let me finish. Let me finish because there is going to be explode The tool is uh one that generates random steam accounts that I could sell Yeah, you can't do anything with keys. That's that's a bad idea. Yeah Well So I do have a question though. Have have any of you guys been hit up for a rage shadow legends sponsorship? Yeah No I got an old brush channel on twit on twit. I got it on twit Yeah, twitch is I'm I'm sitting on that Wait, what what's your question? I got one and I didn't even have a channel No for a rage shadow legend heavy. Hey, so yeah, so here's the thing I used to have a minecraft channel back in the day because you know, it was a big thing And I got scammed on Yeah, Tyler loved it these people that are supposed to this used to be a thing on youtube where they would actually Supposedly push your channel, but you pay them so much a month And they would you put them as a sponsorship. Yeah, I got scammed playing on fiverr But But but uh, I recently I just got an email for raid a sponsorship for rage shadow legends for my the old channel I'm like, I don't even have any videos anymore. Like there's nothing Now I got I got a question from a super chat from mr. Fah to He wants to know is there a way to a benchmark on linux because he uses the user benchmark program on windows But he wants something for linux Yes, you guys know foronix foronix I mean foronix the only one I know of but I've never used it It's it is the only one that's like credible because the only one that's actually popular for linux Well, and and also just so we're clear like that is the most comparable Like suite of testing tools. Yeah, I was gonna say what you're gonna find over on windows now If you want to like if you're going to be diving into linux and doing stuff more in the terminal And like you kind of want to go that route if you search stress testing linux or arch You'll especially if you search arch you're gonna get like arch wikis on stress testing and a whole bunch of people talking about it And there's a Litany of stress testing small singular terminal programs for testing your cpu your ram your graphics card All that kind of stuff. They're really talking it towards cli. Yeah Yeah, well like when when it comes to linux if you go to the foronix test suite or there is a couple others but if you go to any type of regular gooey test suite and You you either don't like it or you you want to do something more fine grained Like on a specific aspect like your ram or something The amount of cli tools out there for doing that stuff is insane. Like you've got tons of choices There's there's even one for nvd and amd called nv bench and uh, and the other one I don't know why it's called but you could also just run a fork bomb and and see how long it takes before your system shuts down Okay, so uh the beauty of the foronix test suite is that the foronix test suite actually bundles all those neat little scripts into one spot for you Because it's not necessarily a synthetic benchmark when it says that it's that it's doing a kernel compile test It's actually compiling a kernel Yep Well, there is stuff that is not inside of that test suite that you will find elsewhere But for the most part like I would be highly surprised if someone tries out That the test suite and goes no, I need something else. But if you are that person there's In fact, if you're not used go ahead go ahead matt if you want to know how good your computer is you compile gentio That works too And then there you go. There you go matt Matt, all the way if you get if you if you get it compiled in under what like two days You've got a great computer Hey, Alex. I want to piggyback off that for a second You're uh, your best video in my opinion Was the video where you tried gentio? Why were we not talking about that? Okay, okay? I want I want to give a correction here Because I've watched that video every single screenshot That computer's never never compiling You're right. That was it's it's unpacking. It's horrible And that was enough for me So my first time compiling gentio Or just trying to install gentio was not a great experience because I was a dumb ass and tried to do it Yeah, live stream was an open chat room Everyone who installs gentio does it in a different way and they and they have like a sniffer detection You know a thing that goes on in their brain that they know when a linux youtubers installing it So they have to go watch it. They're all in the chat They all tell you how to install it in a slightly different way And if you listen to more than one at a time You're never gonna get that. Okay. Look look matt matt gentio install was made so difficult by the fact that Initially it was just gonna be me helping him then josh was like well, dude I mean, obviously you got to have me there and i'm like, okay, of course by the end of it We have like freaking five six people Inside of a call all trying to help matt all giving him different advice and this poor man is freaking out He's like, I swear to god if someone gives me another six different way to do this Well, you start the installation thinking you're gonna do open rc, but then somebody tells you don't do that do system d Now he he went system d first Because you know, that's what he's familiar with he just didn't realize that the system d does not work in the ch route So i'm pretty sure that that first stream josh was actually in his car and pull off to the side of the road just to be Oh, I think so. Yeah, that's right Like he couldn't he was like on his way home from work or something And he couldn't make it to the beginning three like he's true I'm pulling over to the side of the road just so I can correct something that tyler was having me do What did I just say pulled over the car and then told me what I was doing wrong wrong That is so josh So josh that is josh That's why we love them. That should be a nerd benchmark now If you have not pulled over on the side of the road To correct somebody's linux install you are not a nerd anymore Hmm What would you say I said do I have to give back my uh nerd like knuckle tattoos then because I have not done that One thing I wanted to add about the uh craziest sponsorships because I just did think about this And it does kind of count since patrons are sponsors. Yes, they are love them. Yep. Thank you guys I made a video. Uh, I made a video a couple of years ago Um talking about this youtuber named roil vandepore. Oh, I remember the guy that uploaded two million videos To youtube it's all automated spam. I remember that and after I made that video exposing his little scheme of how he's doing He subscribed to my patreon Said hey, man. I saw the video. Uh, really liked it Like, okay, I responded back. I was like, well, thanks. I'm glad you liked it Anything else he said he responded back. Yeah, could you take the video down? I responded back Not a chance. Nope So he spent money to message you to ask to clear his name Well, I don't know if he really expected that to work But I mean he asked nicely like he did say please Uh, but it's like, yeah, no, that's not gonna happen, buddy. Not a chance Is he still subscribed or did he subscribe? Oh, that was a couple years ago I don't know how long I don't know if he stuck around after that first month or whatever At the very least we have to give this person credit He was nice about it. You know what that's why I was bringing it up. It was such an unusual kind of thing. Yeah So so that actually brought another question in mind What was the most surprising person that's ever subscribed to your channel that surprised you that they actually Distortube Me too Just when I only think I might have had I might have had what maybe 20 videos and he like subscribed to my channel Holy shit. I actually felt like I arrived and I was like I have arrived I had 300 video. I had 300 subscribers and you know the the the studio They give you the like the top Subscribers that you haven't Distortube was like, come on and that's not really Distortube is that there's no way that that's the real Yeah, yeah, I that thought went to my head too, man. That's wild I had I The surprise I had was Chris likes to stick and he's a sponsor on my github too. Wow Look, all right And he's a sponsor on github too factor for me because I'm like for me the biggest one is actually mental outlaw Like when I found out that mental outlaw like watched my open bsd videos and recommended them in his own video I was like I was like, oh That's insane like Yeah, so that one that one was like I I never expected mental outlaw like just because I've Never interacted with him. I watched his content, but I never expected that I would be ever Like someone he would be interested in like I just didn't I don't really make content that I thought he would be interested in and I'm also not a privacy focused person Like mainly anyway, like right I kind of care about privacy But you know, I'm not like it's not my sole focus or anything like that. I'm not into op sec or whatever So so that one was wild, but I am lame in the sense that when When you when Derek when you subscribe to my channel, I did I I did screenshot it because I was like This is the person that I watch And was the reason I I switched and like was confident in making linux content and Like I knew what kind of style of content I wanted to make mainly based off of watching you and figured out what I like about your videos So like when you subscribe to my channel, I was like, all right, I'm doing good Let's all be a little honest with ourselves that when we started the linux our linux channels We all had the aspirations to one day be distro tube Yep 100% well Yeah, it's interesting because obviously that's not my case either because Six years ago though, it was so different because there weren't nearly As many linux content creators like it was a much smaller place even the ones that were doing this kind of content weren't That big of a channel like it was unusual to see somebody have 20 30 000 subs for a linux Like that was like man, you're a big bowler in that space because there just wasn't that now, you know, obviously I mean some of the folks here, right? They're doing big things, right? So when I first subscribed, I can't say that I had any big linux creators subscribed to me because I really weren't like it where there weren't any Like the people we were just naming people like christitis tech mental outlaw and they weren't even around When I started my channel So, uh, but now I can go back and look at my analytics And I've got a bunch of people that have a million or more subs that are subscribed to my channel I don't know any of these names Because I don't even know if these are real channels I don't know if you guys have gone through and looked at the lifetime subscriber list But I wonder how much of that is automated Yeah, some of those Yeah, you can like tell that they paid one of those Uh channels that kind of paid for their subscribers like they don't have any videos or they just have one And it's about yeah one or two currency you click on their link or whatever their username And they have one video and it doesn't have any views and it's like how the hell you have 1.5 million subs Yep, yeah Oh, yeah, those will be the accounts that get scrubbed Oh, even worse is the instagram people that have like a million followers and you know those aren't real followers Yep, yeah for one thing. You're not a girl and you don't look good Come on Justin johnson. I'm like, you don't really want to explode the channel. All we got to do is get some chick on the channel Well that or like what you do is you start especially on instagram if you want to get popular It's only like two ways you need you need to be a model or What's your suit is used to become a meme field channel. You just post memes. That's it But but I do want to briefly mention Somebody that I do oh a lot of like my early success kind of like you guys were talking about me shouting you guys out You know and all of that I still had like, I don't know 700 800 subs only been at it for Three or four months. I was trying to get to a thousand subs Because I had the 4,000 watch hours or whatever but you had to have a certain Yeah, a thousand subs to get monetized. I was really trying to make that push And a youtuber whose channel was big daddy linux rocco over at big daddy linux He quit he quit doing youtube about three or four years ago but back then he had a pretty popular channel and He sent out a tweet and talked about it on video. Hey, let's help this uh, this Distro tube guy get to a thousand subs so he can get monetized so and he really helped me Get to that number early on and then I started appearing on his live streams a lot because he did a weekly uh live stream show The person who helped me was huya alex by introducing me to kabeer Yeah Yeah, kabeer is a genius kabeer got me to monetization status in less than 20 48 hours legitimately not no bullshit problem. Why not illegitimately? yeah at the old magic Because I had to use the the special words for seo He did all the magic on all my videos and I had the time I had only what 20 videos up Yeah, pretty videos. Oh, bless you. He made me reach all the watch hours and the subscriber count at the same time in less than 48 hours What what pushed me well kabeer helped me with that But what really got me a lot more subscribers was when dt shouted me out And caused the whole drama to happen in my life for a minute there the only drama I've ever had With with that guy. Yeah Yeah, let's not even bring him up. Yeah Well, let's see here because when we were talking about scam artist earlier Now I've been around a lot of scam or that's why I was can tell you how they operate and when I saw this guy I was like, yeah, he's definitely like straight up his whole life. He's probably been one Yep. Yeah Yeah, but uh, let's see. It's funny how we all know he's talking about I I just I didn't even mean to step in that hornet's nest. It's just that I just Somebody sent me the video as a subscriber and I was like cool And then I got to talking about it and then it blew up and it was just bad I just I just got a patreon message from someone Um, they said hey, can you take this live stream down? I guess from the royal vandepar thing Nate, what are you doing sending me these message? Now let's hear That subscribes to me is linux and casa, which looks to be a spanish speaking channel. Yeah Yeah, he so I I tried to get I I forgot to mention that I tried to get him on the show He is very large in the spanish market. He's got 6 000 subscribers and he is amazing. He's actually very good I can understand him because I speak full in spanish, but most of you guys wouldn't And uh, he says he didn't he didn't feel that his spanish or his english was strong enough to be on here But he's actually a pretty cool dude. Yeah. Yeah, I do spanish Oh, let's see. Let's see zany is not subscribed to me neither is matt. That's a disappointment Uh, don't you know I don't see it You have to have your subscriptions public for you to appear in that list. So yeah, that's the problem It's not everybody that's it's gonna appear Oh, all right. All right. Yeah, like I am too. How do you think I get notifications every time there's a distra hacking? I gotta get in there and troll You got the notifications on discord I want to turn the question Backwards and I want to say Who's the the the the person that Is subscribed to you one of your subscribers who number one You never thought would subscribe to you number two who turned out to be a different A better human being than you ever expected him or her Well, that's tough because I don't interact with All of my subscribers like damn, dude Come on All right, really? We're supposed to know our subscribe like like on a personal level I'm saying that who you contacted and contacted you back and you he And the contact back was more than you expected better than you expected Well, I will say this because I've interacted with probably 200 different Lenoxy or tech content creators over the years Just being in the space people Patrons of mine or I'm patrons of them or you know, we talk Various platforms reddit or wherever mastodon Sometimes I've been on their streams. They've been on mine, etc And they've all been great people like literally there are only Maybe two or three that I would say, you know just Are probably like horrible people in real life and it comes across kind of obvious that they're that but But honestly this space is mostly just genuine people That are good dudes for the most part and I say dudes because it's mostly 97 percent men unfortunately, but there are some very nice women in the space as well Yeah, I remember nixie pixel back in the day Yeah But but many of them especially the ones that have Channels that do video content Are a little different when you talk to them not in front of a camera like on a live stream Yeah, for me once again, it would have to be dt Actually because I know my camera is not on I didn't um I didn't think that you would even take a minute to talk to me because I was so small at the time You know, and then when you a lot of times I do that is because like I said, it helped me out in the beginning So like I I know how much it it it helps. So really that I was grateful for that to be honest with you Plus, I want to see I want to see everybody succeed. I want all you guys Um, yeah, yeah to be you turn out to be big to be bigger than me because honestly, I don't want to do this Forever, you know, like well, I but I still want people to be making content about Linux for an open source software So, you know, I think it's we we want this space to be as as big as possible as popular as possible And positive to me the reason I brought up this question is because I wanted to throw a shout out towards my uh My brother in christ over here, uh snack ops unit Because thank you uh When I first started talking to to jesse over here I never thought that we would end up collaborating and creating the a podcast together and I approached you by patreon because I wanted help with zero at first. I think yeah, that's how we met We weren't talking about the podcast, but no, that was a long time podcast and you and you said, yeah, I'm available. I'm like And and when we started talking about spiritual things afterwards and I was like Uh, I I can't believe I'm I found someone who who shares my spiritual belief uh In the linux world let alone on youtube So I was completely surprised some really cool people in the linux space. Obviously, you know, yeah You being one of them and and the podcast was successful wouldn't have been successful without without jesse So I just got to remind everybody that that's the actual purpose of this whole stream Was to show how cool we actually are with each other We are human and we are good people and you will find good people in in the linux sphere It's not only full of elitist elitist mindsets and And then there's always that title most of us are just regular dudes And also I must give credit huge credit to tyler For something great that he did me like we had a five hour stream with all half of you guys over here We're on that stream, uh, including josh But that a five hour stream allowed me to get out of the bubble that I was living under Or the rock I was living under that was called zero linux Uh, and how uh, and the how badly I was treating people and how dismissive I was uh It well, I think that's kind of the good thing about like Like yeah, like especially when it's when it comes to like, all right. I know it not everyone Uses discord but the nice thing about discord is like there's There's all normally on most of our servers If you if you hang around for a while, there's there's always conversations and texts going on There's also normally voice calls and like We are normally just especially if we're sitting down at the computer and we're working on something that doesn't require us being recorded or Whatever like We're normally there just talking and anyone can do about normal every good stuff and we're also Yeah, extremely open with each other. I don't know like our discord calls are normally always like very Direct and like like we don't I don't know. It's like we have a very open conversation on discord all the time and like That's one of the nice things about discord Like you can always hop in and have a conversation like I don't know how many times people have come into What kills me about people on my discord is people who are like new to like either My channel or like the discord itself will be afraid to hop in and start talking I'm like just no do it like A lot of people a lot of people do hop in though and they they mute and they don't even talk or Contribute to the conversation Well, they're I mean they want to dip their toe in and see what it's like Yeah, I get I get muting and not wanting to like interrupt a conversation or like make sure your audio Is good like I get all of that kind of stuff But like when it comes to people who are scared to talk Like I'm like I don't get that like no, we're not we're not like a close off Like yeah, we're not gonna bite you. Yeah, exactly. Like come on in I ain't gonna lie. I was shocked. I was shocked as hell to find out the tt actually Was in discord You know what I was starting to wonder if I was gonna make it because discord is Um Didn't want to play nice with me this morning When tyler when tyler first told me that you came to his discord and actually played games with him on discord I was like, are you are you kidding me? I said my first words out of my mouth work, but it's not it's not false. It's proprietary the best thing about my discord server is Derek you come on there and we'll play zero ad with me Not like not super frequently, but pretty frequently But because of that gap in time that we like where we don't play zero ad There are people who join the discord and who will like be like, I really want to play zero ad Or like I want to know when the next zero ad match is and somebody will mention like well Make sure it might be in six weeks. It might be three months from now. I mean, yeah There are people that Here that you are on discord and play zero ad with me who don't believe it in between those gaps And are like mind blown when they see you on the discord. They're like, oh my oh my god. I thought this was like a lie a myth I I can understand why because Derek talks so little in in those uh, Game livestreams. It's like you guys are talking Derek throws it throws in a word or two If we're playing zero ad and if you're good, you don't have time You don't have time to talk because I'm trying to figure out is my ratio of spearmen to archers the correct You know like because you got to have some melee units, you know to take down the rams But them elements you really want some archers. You know, and I need to get to tier three Asap right now for them So I can have siege weapons like oh when they show up with rams and all you have is 200 archers You you just resign, right? You just Like the best game of zero ad that we have ever played Was that last time where you and josh were on a team because I'm telling you I was I was keeping you back. I was keeping the pressure on I was doing so You talking about the game where I mistakenly ended the game Like by uh destroying my civic center Yeah, that that was I mean it was a good game, but it's unfortunate that it ended by a mistake Yeah, well no like that No, actually Like we lost the the game that I'm talking about because I was keeping the pressure on you and we were coming Are you talking about the one before that with me and big pod? Yes, man. Yeah, okay. I'm about to say that yeah When you were talking about if that was I was like, yeah the one where I accidentally destroyed my civic center Related to zero 80 I'm trying to get my dad into the game Because he loves those kind of games But the problem with that with that it doesn't have scenarios to play Yes, it does. Yeah, it does There are some single player Maps that you play but not the campaign If you if you go into single player, there is a campaign mode and it literally says Yeah, yeah, there's some things you can do Okay, let me correct that he's on windows and the windows version is called zero ad alpha It's the same for mac and linux. It's all the same version Yeah, well, I I went to I went to uh campaigns. It gave me demo campaign and nothing No, there's there's something called scenarios in it. So I have no idea how to fix this for you So I'm trying to get my dad into the game because it's literally age age of empires one and two I actually want to uh piggyback on the Surprise reactions for a second too Because I remember when Steve and I brought The zero bites podcast to a close earlier this year and During one of our wrap up meetings Steve had told me, you know, hey, you know, alex over at the linux tube wants to talk to you The that, you know alex for whatever reason sought me out to add me to the linux tube team and I was I was awestruck, you know, I loved what steven. I did I did not think I was a good enough content creator for somebody to come and be like, hey I want to add you to what i'm doing and I got NBA drafted Zero bites To that's exactly how I felt and and the last episode of zero bites was like hey, we're back. Goodbye Yeah I think it was the right thing to do at the time as weird as it was Yeah, and Steve I couldn't I couldn't thank you enough for, you know, pulling me out of twitch gaming for Waste of my time and get me into the linux creator space Yeah, it was it was it was great and I have news I wanted to use this opportunity during the christmas special Hey, say ho ho ho A new zero linux podcast is on the way, but it's going to be called different It's got it's going to come with a new name a new producer And the producer is on this panel and he knows himself He knows it's not me. It's matt. It's matt. We all know it's matt. It's definitely not that That's what i'm not producing anything The producer is mr. Jesse over here because he's the guy who I am helping you with a theme. I am not your producer I am helping you with theming because you're the guy who's gonna Help me come out of I am I am helping you with some graphics. I got yeah, I have a chat Right. I am not steve's producer. I have to say uh, you need to walk that one back my dude I call you I call you Let me ask a question guys Uh If you were to make content about anything other than linux like I say you decided to You didn't want to make the next content anymore. What would you pivot to? Oh, that's a good question. Oh, wow That's super easy because that's what it's basically what my shorts are Okay Everyone you do seems to be from work Or telling matt No one's gonna like my answer, but it would honestly be dead side content I would switch over to running windows and just play dead side all You know, I was thinking that too like I I could actually be happy just doing free and open source gaming Yeah, like I could dedicate a channel to zero ad and be happy for me. I I love it For me, I would switch to doing like a travel escapes or something like that A travel vlog that would be interesting too. Yeah Well, actually another thing that would be really cool Like if we want to keep it in the vein of like Free and open source like I have no I'll get away from tech something not technology. That's that's exactly where I'm at I want to get away from tech man. Yeah Oh, well, I mean in that case I do have an off-grid passion So I like I could easily make content about like, you know, like, you know, putting up solar panels building up Oh, they want to do hunting videos I was thinking the same thing I could do a lot of outdoorsy stuff Uh, you know for me For me, I if it wasn't going to be tech I would be uh making spiritual video That would be good too. That would be cool. Yeah for me. It'd be books I'd be doing books fan fiction or Oh, that's a good idea manga stuff like that. Yeah Oh, come on. You should You should you should do you if you if you want to talk about fiction. Isaac asimov All the way can I also say something for a second? I just want to mention that since this is the christmas podcast Huge shout out to matt. Thank you very much. I appreciate it He bought me DaVinci Resolve studio and if people wonder why I'm here I do a lot of edits for different people that's on this podcast. You're going to be making mine too Your work is saintly brother Your work is saintly. Thank you so much. I guess we should be thinking matt too if you're going to use that Purely selfish because he's got to edit out all of the ums and all it's out of the podcast Well, here's here when you when you're talking about he recognizes that my audio is the best audio even though he completely destroys my audio track every time Wow, was that a compliment or a backhanded compliment? No, but seriously when you're talking about us and alms You know that there's a piece of software on linux that you feed the video to and will take the us and alms out And matt you talked about it once steve steve Find out what that software is because you go, uh A lot You can do that you can automate a lot of the the cum But you have to be careful because sometimes it will Yeah, cut things that weren't really have to train or create some weird space where that that are that um that pause made sense But when you remove it It's very jarring. You know the worst the worst part about those automated systems is If your um or aw is not completely separate from another word It can't distinguish the cutoff time. Yeah, so You have to train it. What are you talking about man? AI is going to fix that And you don't want to automate any of your your video editing to be honest because the the youtube channels that Do automated editing you can tell and there's a lot of Weird stuff with them and people complain. You're gonna have comments about well, that was a strange cut here This word was missing a syllable here Yeah, true I know a lot of people the video editing I know a lot of people don't even watch their videos that they edit I like they don't even go through the whole timeline to make sure that everything recorded correctly Like you know, I've seen people post videos where the camera's not working for a few minutes in their video And they didn't they should have caught that if they'd edited the video But they just kind of had a script that rendered it and they didn't really watch it Or people that have no audio in their video and they still publish it to youtube. It's like, how do you let that go? My first No, that's a lot of people that's that's not eric de bois only like a lot of people do that I've seen a lot of youtube videos that didn't have audio and were supposed to what did you say matt I said my first few videos that I uploaded on my channel. I didn't edit at all Like I I would check the first few minutes and if the first few minutes it's fine. I just let it go because Didn't add them all I was so surprised. I made a video and completed it. I just put it up there. I'm like, yeah, here you go I'm surprised you even did it. Yeah, exactly My channel was just for the podcast and I was not editing that podcast I still don't want to hit the podcast So what made you want to do what made you want to do the channel? Uh, nobody was watching. Well, I mean I was only getting like listens on the audio. So so I started the linux cast and my friend ricky in 2017 just an audio podcast We decided wanted to use linux I stuck with it. He didn't and then we just stopped after a little while They just kind of feed it off and then in 2020 I checked my anchor Statistics and I was like people are listening to the podcast. I don't know why they're really really bad episodes Like yeah, I did the the we recorded them on skype and if you've ever recorded anything on skype, you know that the audio Garter garbage. It's garbage um, so When I found out that people were listening. I was like, you know, maybe there's something in this So I decided to start uploading them to youtube And you know, they got a few these or whatever and then I was like, you know, I'm gonna make some I started using a program called zem wiki to take notes I was like, I'm gonna make a video about this and so I made it in one of those And the next day I want something else for a good like four or five months I made a video every single day And then in march 2020 dt called my hit my channel I was like, I had 400 subscribers like there's no way I'm gonna stick with this because it's just 400 subscribers And then in a day, I had 2000 subscribers. I was like, what am I supposed to do? Absolutely bonkers and that's cool. So it just got real overnight Yeah, it was crazy. Well, because I wasn't even close to the monetization for us. I had 400 subscribers I was at like a thousand watch hours or whatever And then the the next day I was monetized or was able to be monetized, you know, they don't prove you that fast But it was bonkers when you called my channel out and you you said go subscribe to him I think I gained like 600 subscribers 800 subscribers overnight too No I totally stole the youtubers. I'm watching thing from dt No, I mean that's that's the best way to to get to point people and Especially, you know small content creators. I normally don't shout out people that Have more than a few thousand subs because honestly those people are probably Already kind of dedicated consistent. They're gonna be all right, but I see a lot of folks that sometimes making Extraordinarily good content, especially compared to some of the videos I made in the early days of my channel like people have really good setups. They speak well They present well on camera and then they only have 200 300 subs that's like dude, we got to help this guy out Yeah, and I usually that that little spark. Yeah, just They probably would have got there anyway. You guys have been would have been fine It's just a little little jump start It's fun to pass it along, you know, it's just yeah, it is if you've been helped, you know You gotta help mom And you know, it's really fun because I've been thinking about doing one of those videos myself here recently But okay, you remember the first time I came onto your channel as a guest to talk about zero linux and I do Yeah, that video is Uh How can I say it's the the one that got zero linux off the ground because to this day I still see people coming to me. The reason I'm trying your distro is because I saw it I saw dt talk about you were on dt's thing and when you talked about zero linux They said we saw we saw you on his Channel and then we saw your distro him reviewing your distro That's the only reason what to be fair if anybody that watched that video I mean all you talk about Steve is zero linux, right? That's Like And you're like the guys the by the way I use arch you you're like No, because it was my attempt to advertise zero How do you advertise a product if you don't talk about the product right at the time and Then I I had you on my channel. We reversed roles And I had you on my channel That was the very first video that reached 1000 views In three days That was the only video and still the only video that reached that point I have a video that I had since the beginning of the channel that just crossed 6000 views because I have it as the Uh, the the welcome video for the channel because it's the uh intro video for the channel That's the only reason it got to six thousand because they're forced to watch it So one thing about your content, uh, Steve and for uh Matt as well because you the podcast the linux tube, obviously these long form podcast You know a lot of people tend to listen to them as audio and youtube is not a great place I tried Nobody would listen to the audio Unfortunately, that's that's the one and and you get punished Because of the way the youtube algorithms work You know, they they want watch time as far as a percentage of How long people stick with a video if you posting really long videos A lot of people don't stick around for the whole thing and youtube punishes you for that Unless you add chapters. Yeah, what I've been doing What I've been doing to get money out of it for you know to get more views for them Is is I've been cutting up into shorts and having to go be posted throughout the week when yeah A lot of people will do uh separate channels too If you know like all your shorter stuff That's only like 10 minutes or whatever have that As a main channel and then do all the long form content on a separate channel So brody, you're not punished all you if it's all on one channel. Yeah Yeah, I like brody brody has tech over to you for the long form and Yeah, right. Well, you don't get punished for a long Like so the the problem is is when you're only doing one If you if you can like now this is extremely hard to To maintain but if you can post Shorts videos and a live stream every day youtube won't punish you for that. Yeah That's a lot of work A lot of content You do that let us know how that works You'll stick with that for a very long time a couple weeks now with my system being down to me diving into nixos I have been doing that lately, but Potentially becoming a manager that will give you less time Then you'll be that guy that dt covered You'll be another row hill vandepar if you're doing that So so a couple things first george castro. Thank you for the super chat. I really appreciate it. Second of all, um The the thing I completely forgot what I was gonna say That's why you don't do two things at once because you you completely lose also once you once you turn 40 you can't remember shit Oh 40. Oh Hey, we cross that bridge. He's an old man now Where's your cane? Where's your long gray beard? I have a cane. It's like right here Don't Yeah, I'm closer to 40 than not but I'm still, you know flirting with it gingerly. I'm not quite there I don't know what you guys are talking about I'm I'm 53 years old and I work at a steel shop man. Just All day long man climbing on still That's why I look up to you kuya You gotta say fit dude Runs upstairs Uh, I work on an average of 14 to 15 hours a day, so that's why I don't actually record too much content right that's why My job title is stakeholder, so I'm basically on call 24 seven Yeah, I work I work the full eight hours and I come home and make a video Every day usually and I want I want to say thank I want to say also thanks to someone who deserves it Matt over here because when I reached out to him and I said I would He sent the he sent an open invite for somebody to be a third person to be part of the podcast and I threw my my My candidature to him and I was like, yeah, he's not gonna accept because I'm selfish and I talked about zero linux and nothing but zero linux. What? Never Yeah Thank you kuya And and and then and then I was like he's gonna throw me a cold one and and so I gave up and then the next minute I see him telling me. Hey Yeah, uh, if you want to be part of the podcast Why not? I ended up with two of you guys I'm trying What were you thinking matt and how much Tylenol do you take before you start the show? It's been no, no, no, no Ask me how how much Tylenol I take after the edits Yeah, you cut my arms out. Yeah, I know he's he's also editing this You're gonna edit this. No, I'm giving this to Jonathan 100% Okay, but Nate seriously Nate if you are willing To help me out with uh with editing my future videos for my comeback Let me know It's over there like oh my god No, no I'm gonna admit And it's Sorry, it's not about it's not about me being lazy to edit videos. I literally have a health situation That's called extreme anxiety attacks when I when it comes to editing. No one likes editing videos I try no one does. Yeah We want to do it like for a living those are the folks who like to actually do it but It'd be like being part of the deadliest catch you don't last very long Yeah, I tried editing my videos. I want to go do that right my oz and ums If you put them together all together they spend half the video Have the video. Yeah So I did that a lot when I first started was the I was a big ums guy, right? I did um a lot So I actually googled how to stop yourself from saying um and the best way to do is just to shut up When you when you think you're gonna say close your mouth Be quiet. It's much easier to cut out a silence than it is to cut out an um So this is what I was going to do. This is what I was going to do because that's what pilar told me you did Also, one of the biggest things too is especially if you're trying to edit a video Is if you think you're going to say um and you were quiet don't move your head Stay there because you can actually jump cut to that part And it makes it look seamless to where like you're like boom All the trade secrets now, aren't we? I think the filler words are a big deal for a lot of people. I I know they are Everybody suffers from them. We all I just transitioned to different filler words So I don't say um as nearly as much as I used to now I say, you know, and I used to say going through a lot like all the damn time Also, it was true. The words are fine. The problem is is most people overuse them naturally So you have to train yourself to be quiet most the time and also not Overthink it to the point where you're not even natural in normal conversation because you'll like you won't say a but or an um because like That's normal like There there is a certain level of pausing and filler words that is natural And then there is also using it way too much because you're trying to think about what you're saying and that's also Like that's why I tell people if you want to the easiest way to stop yourself from cutting out filler words Is to record yourself and force yourself to edit Every like do three separate recordings at minimum of 10 minutes each and go through and edit All of the ums and all sounds hate it so much. You wouldn't want to do it anyway Well, no like what what it does is it gets you upset at how much you use it It as long as you're overusing it it will get you upset You will learn through editing why you're saying it like either you're overthink like you're Overthinking you being recorded at that moment or because I mean you remember you recording it So you'll remember all all of the things that are making you cause or making you say that And then you can stop that you can address that and also you learn other filler words Like through through editing that you'll learn other things like you'll have other ideas for what you could say if You need to do that that make it seem much more natural My problem is I have the word in the middle of my head But as soon as I want to say it it it tries to come out in arabic or french So for me when I when I notice I start doing the oz or the ums Is when i'm in the middle of trying to think of something because something threw me off It's like i'm like, uh, it's like I need to learn to shut my mouth So it doesn't come out. So I'd be like maybe humming Like that video you did with the linux commands and it can't mess it up the which one the linux commands For the new users and it can't mess you were like, uh I don't know what's happened. Why didn't that work? Reboot your gint to install and it doesn't boot and you're like, uh And it turns out that's a perfect time for an extended uh Because i'm horrible at typing. I am horrible at typing and it always when i'm trying to do it live and like shit Oh You were trying to set my system up and like there were multiple times where you would run a command and i'm like No, brother. There's no cap like Not the capital like it's all over gays like or like you would go like Because like, you know, we were talking about how some program names have hyphens in them And then you would every time I would give you a command with a flag you'd be like You would like either start typing it in a backspace or just pause and you'd sit there for a second be like, uh so Is there other things with command line utilities too when you when you read tutorials about certain command line utilities You can tell that some people that are writing like articles and blog posts and things on these things They don't realize that there are slight differences between the good new core utils and the bsd utils And the same command can have different flags depending on Which one you installed? So Yeah, you'll try to use a flag that is right there in the documentation, but it doesn't work Guys out there in the chat man. Just know you listen to us man who have been using links for quite a while We still have issues we got issues man We got fiddling around to change scenes in obs and I want to show my desktop versus my window because Keyboard and mouse. Thanks to josh over here for introducing me to obs There's a new thing that josh told me about really I don't have to fiddle with anything and lose anything because the thing is in my lap And I can just switch scenes without having to fiddle with the key bindings looking for the key binding on the keyboard Or try to move with the mouse find my mouse Click the right thing and click the transition and everything. It's just on the ipad Yeah, you have you have you have a elgato without paying the price of elgato Exactly. Okay. So I have an elgato. It's a piece of So The stream deck thing is just it's mostly useless, but you can you can there's deck master you can use it on linux It's fine and it works good, but I just i'm so used to doing it with a keyboard Right and honestly if you're we're going to get a stream deck Why not just get a dedicated little macro keyboard? Just for your obs command whatever actually all right. All right. I'll explain why actually You can put pretty pictures on the stream I'm spending $30 on a little macro keyboard spending $200 on that because we all know that we're gamers and Tech enthusiasts we need rgb and pretty We need party And I got 18 macros on this keyboard and this keyboard is from 2005 There you go. Well If if you were a true elgato fan boy, you would know that that's not enough you need a stream Also, you're not sponsored without telling us you're not sponsored There's a keyboard. There's a keyboard where the entire keyboard is Plastic keys which with nothing behind them you can give them any Icon you want the entire keyboard. You can get a That existed in 2005 and died in 2000. Yeah, if you're using a mechanical keyboard, you can just create your own keycaps Not stickers it's an actually it's an actually backlit keys that where you can it's exactly like the elgato But it lived only for one year. It got discontinued the year the year after that because it was too expensive. It was a thousand dollars Now for for a while Zsa who makes my moonlander keyboard? Yeah for a while They were offering the ability to just order one half of the keyboard because it's a split keyboard So if you wanted like a third section like a second left hand section that could be a dedicated macro Keyboard for controlling something like obs. I think they discontinued that because they weren't that many people interested And just having the one half But it was available for a while I cannot imagine how horrible my typing would be on a split keyboard. It's already bad enough. I can If it was bad, it's still gonna be bad it won't change The only difference to a split keyboard is it trains your because like you're very used to using Like like doing this kind of like motion with your hand for like other key bindings And you're no longer going to reach with this hand to hit why because why is now on that? Exactly for me. It was b. So I definitely bought a moon lander. Thank you, Derek I I spent so much money because I buy stuff. Yes I have a zsa has gotten a thousand dollars for me just in keyboards I bought one because Derek said it was good And and I can't not do it. So I bought one and for me the key that bucked me the most was that for whatever reason I type b with my right hand, but b is on the left side of the keyboard What I noticed is whenever the thumb clusters because you've You know on a regular keyboard, you have that gigantic space bar Right and for I realized I had only ever used one thumb ever to hit that space bar. So one thumb On this hand never did anything It so I was essentially typing all that time for years and years my whole life with just nine fingers Because one thumb I just didn't do anything with now now i'm forced to actually use all 10 fingers And it makes sense, you know Yeah, I like trying I put it back in the box, but I'll be stubborn and get it out again Because it was because you spent money on that thing. It was yeah, they're not The thing though is it's not my most expensive keyboard. So I can Yeah, you have a more expensive keyboard I I have a custom mechanical keyboard that I built It was over 500 dollars Oh, wow It typically is when you build your own a lot of people will On my videos about the moon lander and the ergo docks and all these zsa keyboards. They're like man That's so expensive 365 dollars. I'll just yield my own and I always tell them in the the comments. Yeah, good luck with that Oh, wait, wait, wait, I think they're gonna save so much money unless you already have the soldering iron and all the equipment I got a question. Why have you why why do they not sponsor your channel? I haven't asked them to What's money is you spent on their stuff? They are very friendly to me. Let me be clear They actually featured me on their website in an interview one time. Uh, They actually do I I don't know if I got one this year last year. They sent me a christmas card with a little gift So, yeah, they're friendly people when we talk about people in the linux space I obviously not necessarily linux, but the zsa guys. They're good people too. Yeah those folks. I think people who get into the Wow The thing about the the I mean like you got to think about it from their perspective Josh don't even try morning. Why sponsor somebody who's already a customer and who spent I mean, I'm already I already Tell people gay go buy this keyboard. I mean, what are you gonna do? He's already he's already given them so much for you doing the job Well, I mean he got me to buy the keyboard. So I can't be the only one The the people who who look at that price for the moon lander and like that Don't know what if you if you want you get into to the custom mechanical keyboard scene You realize just how much you can spend on a keyboard because I mean At least I know for a fact matt has spent over 1000 dollars on keyboards in one year Oh, definitely. Oh, yeah, I've done that So You see that little uh flashy keyboard back there that little 40 keyboard. Yeah, that's the zsa plank which has since been discontinued I paid 270 bucks for that thing So between that and the moon lander that's 650 dollars just sitting here on these two discs right now I've got the ergo docks at home And folks that's 365 dollars And folks if you're out there listen this segment has been brought to you by zsa Hey, but that but that I've got other keyboards that are not zsa. That's the thing when we talk about keyboards Yeah, there's a lot of money that gets tied. Yeah, but at least I got a question for you I used to be a blogger a constant blogger and people would think yeah You've been doing blogging for like 15 20 years. You you must be typing without even looking Well to this day, I've been Since I had a computer to this day. I had my first computer was in 95 so To this day I still type like this and I keep looking at the keyboard because I cannot memorize the keyboard I type you know, you're a peck typer Yeah I get a lot of comments on my videos sometimes people like You know when I start typing I I look down at the keyboard Because I have to see where to place my hands and the reason I do that Oh, a lot of people don't realize like the magic of a trick photography Like I am at a 45 degree angle looking at this camera right now to where my keyboard is So when I twist to go to the keyboard, I have to look at it because I have no idea where the damn thing is and Yeah, they think I'm right in front of it and I got to look down like Not to mention or whatever. No, I just need to see where the keyboard is before I start typing Not to mention our generation didn't grow up with keyboards in our hands No Yeah, well, like my thing is is like my keyboard I have to look at it because I'm actually used to 65 percent keyboards Because that's what I normally use if I'm like going out somewhere Or like I'm like I've got another keyboard other than this one So anytime I'm using a full-size keyboard, even though I'm used to this one I still have to look at it like I'm not I don't have to look at it to continue typing after a minute But I have to look at it to get it to put your hands. Yeah Not every keyboard has the little raised humps for j and uh, what's the other key f Uh, the two keys that have the humps on the home road to help you uh Know what your placement is like if it's all just flat keys Like I don't a lot of mechanical keyboards unless you specifically ordered the ones with the humps You may have nothing but flat keys on it. So unless you look it's very hard to figure out figure out where you are Different profile keycaps for me on the phone People find it weird that I swipe type. There's there's this uh swipe board. That's so easy Yeah, I do the swipe typing, but I cannot type on my keyboard. I have to peck type On your on your phone Oh on my phone, it's swipe. Okay. Okay. Okay on my actual computer computer keyboard I peck type and when I say to you guys I don't like window managers because it relies on key bindings a lot This makes a lot more time, but a lot because I peck type And I don't remember where the keys are and I have to keep doing some hand gymnastics to do the Steve should use you max. That's what I can do or say in here. Yeah, we love key cords Control c control c control eggs. Yeah So Steve here's your here's your new keyboard Yeah, I gotta admit I'm a hybrid I'm a hybrid peck typer I can sometimes I'll I'll catch myself peck typing, but then I switch back to the other one. So I don't know. It's just weird Yeah, I got a super chat. I want to mention just briefly uh, uh user name is anonymous X and the X is the twitter logo. Okay. Well, I appreciate the super chat. He says I watch it from Saudi Arabia About four years. Ah, very cool. Nice. Wow Nice. Oh Hold on Steve. Hold on Steve. Hold on Steve. Hang on. Hang on. Other people gotta talk. Got a legit question. Got a legit question. Um, Since tt was talking about how expensive his keyboards were have you done the thing that I've done where I've actually insured my stuff? Because I'm afraid if I get it, you know, I have it, but I have I have considered it I have considered it You have your keyboard to insured and if somebody's Broke into this office and stole like just my moonlight. We already thought that's $650. They just stole keyboards, which is easy because they're small What I want that insured over $100 I mean The renters insurance is something that if you have a lot of tech and a lot of gear and especially if you live in Places where there are hurricanes and stuff So Louisworth crime Yeah, yeah, we're all the above or yeah, like me And me well, I don't get hurricanes The good news is I live in the middle of michigan where there's nobody else living. So I'm good Yeah, but you get a lot slower That just means I don't leave I leave the house in the last in the end. I thought yeah, I Decided it wasn't really that worth it for my I mean if somebody stole this stuff I'd be upset but would it be the end of the world? No, I just have to order more keyboards, but Plus if somebody stole a keyboard man, they really need that keyboard Hey, they they were they were a lot more hard up than I am. So hey, you enjoy the keyboard, buddy Yeah, here's how I'll look at it. Go ahead. Jesse. I know you're gonna say something No, it's okay. Finish your thought and then I'll jump in Oh, let's go to say here's the way I look at it. I hope they still bond so I can claim the insurance to get something better Well, here's the thing These keyboards never die. I've had my ergo docs now for probably At least four maybe five years now Never had an issue with it. No dead keys. Nothing nothing weird with it. It's just worked the entire time I've never had to do anything other than when I first bought it program Reprogram a couple of keys to do different things and the defaults And that's been five years ago moonlander. I've had it for probably what three years maybe now same thing never had an issue with it I don't know if these keyboards will last forever but They seem rock solid and I don't Like unless somebody stole it, I don't think it's ever gonna break To the point where I have to buy something else I think I need like you said somebody needs to steal it so I can buy the latest and greatest keyboard Because they have a new profile one that looks really cool I'm gonna get it eventually I've got another low profile keyboard from a different company that I need to look at on camera before I order me a zsa one though I saw something I'm gonna jump in for a second go back to something that I didn't get to join in on And uh, well, we were given advice to You know new would be creators and people who might think they want to enter the space I've suffered for this and I'm working through it The worst thing you can do is a as a content creator Is just not create content because you think it's gonna be bad Make that hit the record button. All of us will say it. I'm sure we all have videos like this Make that crappy video Put up the badly added video. You will get better whether it's from your own criticism Whether it's my case Hey, even just record it on your iPhone or whatever you had been doing Yeah, just don't don't delete it six times put it up and let it sit there People will make fun of you at first and it's cool, you know, just say but it's engagement in the end It's all still views views. Yeah I know we're having this great conversation and and all but I just took a look at the voyager from zsa Oh, it's awesome I'm eventually gonna get it Oh, it's yeah It's like you gotta like you gotta have one like I didn't even like the moon lander because I'm not used to the split keyboard Couldn't get used to it, but I still want one But here's the thing when you get used to the moon lander You can use all of them Like it's so easy to go between the moon lander the ergo docks I'm sure it's gonna be the same for the voyager because you know that they're all very very similar as far as the layouts The one that the primogen has that's the kinesis that has kind of like the the curves I was thinking about that but it takes up a lot of room because it's not Yeah, that's it's too big The ergo docks Is also a little big too It's slightly bigger than the moon lander and the moon lander if you have the wrist out is really deep So if you got a small desk, you're probably not going to want to use the wrist rest I'm not gonna lie man. I I visit zsa's webpage probably about Two or three times a month and I have gotten to the point where I've almost clicked the buy button Myself on it's on the voyager and four hundred dollars But the voyager if space is an issue the voyager is neat because uh instead of the six Keys on the thumb cluster like the ergo docks or the four on the moon lander now They've reduced it to just two on the thumb cluster and as far as the rows on the each split They've reduced that now to just six. So that's much smaller Then the ergo docks and the moon landers for space And there's a wrist rest either. So there's one from someone who does the three Printing thing that and then sells it to other people that has a Trackball built in I want to try it a trackball Like I really want to try it. I don't think it would get me away from the alakam huge But I still want to try it I I have never I have never used a trackball. I don't understand what the fascination is with it Once you know, they're actually never leaving behind It's really a lot better on the wrist switch switching really save my wrist a lot Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I've got this trackball for like general use I've got this trackball here that I use most. I actually mostly use this trackball for like is that the game ball? No, this is a kessington I because The only hardware that I've ever had someone send me as a company was someone called the gamer ball It was supposed to be a trackball for gaming. Mm-hmm. Yeah, do you still have that by the way? Yeah, I have it around here somewhere Okay Because I kind of I kind of want to see if I can get that off of you because you know This thing is great and all but it's 2.4 gigahertz wireless, which I've got Uh way too too much stuff broadcasting that on that frequency in my in my little house at this point You want a wired one? Yeah Yeah, just let me find it. I'll ship it to you. Okay, that works Have any of you guys tried the system 76 launch? Yes, no Would you recommend it? Yeah Because I'd love an excuse to support them Hardware wise the big benefit of it is that for the price in the build quality It's actually really reasonable and it's also qmk so uh Which basically means that you can reprogram every single key that you possibly want and it's better than via It it is better than via which uh this keyboard here works through via and uh Sucks you regret your life choices every time you have to change a key. Yeah, that's that's me Yeah, yeah, yeah Big benefit of this keyboard though is that's all is that was only 30 bucks and it's a key growing and you're like Yeah, it's not that bad of a keyboard to be honest with you I You know, I confirm where to find my devora keyboard compared to you know having to do the software definition I got one of the board from somewhere in Germany. It's nice and slim. I can't get it up there to show it But anyhow, it's nice and slim and it's it's it's small and it's light and I think the problem is is it's too small for me with my big hands So I need to I need to get a little bit bigger of a keyboard And then maybe I could type just a smidge better But but I like it and it it plugged right up and it worked just fine Flawlessly and I was like happy for that because I always seem to have issues with my keyboard working on there's a lot of people out there Right now who are watching this like how could you pop? I mean These are people who went on amazon needed a keyboard Spent $10 and have been using it for the last 20 years and they're like You spent $600 on a keyboard. Yes What's wrong with you? I'll tell you one of the biggest benefits We're all nerds. We're uber nerds When when I bought the ergo docks, which was the first csa keyboard I bought all the those years ago the fact that the arrow keys were all in a straight line And I could arrange them in the vim motions Yeah, you know just like because I've never realized that when you're moving around with vim motions, obviously They're all four right next to each other, but on a standard keyboard You got the little three at the top one at the bottom or vice versa or whatever And you know it just for consistency sake it makes so much more sense the way I use arrow keys now Then the way I would use it on us like a generic 110 keyboard this mouse nothing special about it It's not a track ball first off, but it has no buttons and no It's a sensor mouse, right that you tap with your fingers and stuff this this tier alone was like a hundred dollars That's also like having layers If you've never you never had a keyboard that had layers Yeah, it's so nice to just be able to Obviously if somebody wanted different keyboard layouts like if you switch from a standard qwerty keyboard to Dvorak or whatever it happened to be like if you were switching between the two and you're comfortable You could actually do that quite comfortably on one of these kinds of keyboards if you set it up that way Or different language keyboards in standard english us keyboard. Maybe you've got I don't know Some other language that you were the keys are you know in a different order So it makes that easy too Yeah, but I mean a lot of people don't understand too that we wound up buying A ton of money even on just like mouse this mouse Is the mx master I spent a hundred bucks on this thing just because it's good for editing With the scroll wheel on the side is amazing And a lot of people just Yeah I'll come huge has the tracks on the scroll wheel on the side Sorry, I mean fan boy What's the price the thing for me is is if logitech made an mx master track ball I would be done like I I I would I could never Go go back to it like this regular mouse movement The the problem is is the horizontal scroll on the side is beautiful and It's really hard to get over having those buttons and that Scroll wheel like right on the side like I could use a trackball that had those on the side. There's just No one making that right now Hopefully they could solve What if I told you on my mx master first first one not even the second or the third The first one I have the horizontal Scroll wheels, but I never ever got to use them and now they're sticky and they don't even spin Quit eating Cheetos while you're using your mouse I remember I remember the old ball the old mouse the mice that had the ball on the bottom You had to clean that every other day because of all the lint and crap that used to get into it And you're in there blowing it and and then you realize how much gunk actually comes off your hand Well, are you cleaning your mouth? That's with track balls. That's which to the track ball. Yeah, just go doing that And like like zany said once you use a track ball I cannot get myself used to get used to the the regular motion of a mouse So note to self alex got to buy a moon lander Uh or voyager because I've been looking at either those and I also got to buy a track ball and give it a try I'm telling you and it'll come huge. It's the way to go. Sorry. Yeah Okay, try those keyboards with no characters on them So if you want to cheap out on track balls Uh logitech still makes like the the old that that same old uh, I think they call like the m70 or something like that Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, you get off of amazon for like 20 bucks And then you you you can pick up that and you know It's 20 dollars out you you Yeah, I mean, it's not like money that you can find off the ground, but you know, it's not exactly expensive Uh, and then or you know, if you don't or if you don't like the thumb ball You can get this this mouse here this mouse is this kessington orbit is only like 30 bucks Really only 30. Yeah 30 bucks when it comes to track balls the thing is is that there's two different kinds and There are two different people who like them So if you like if if you're the finger tracker, so you're using either the index the middle finger move around Or you're the thumb tracker who has it on the side Usually you're not both. So you're gonna like either one or the other Yeah, I I found that I like the finger tracking better Some people like the thumb better. So you're gonna Also, they have a break in period Like if you you're just switching you you almost certainly have to use it for a week or two To get really accurate because it does get more accurate over time as it picks up oil and stuff off your finger And move around better. Oh, I suck so bad at zero ad the first two weeks or so after switching to a track ball Because it it you know just trying to quickly move characters around Oh, oh my goodness was so hard so difficult. Like I had to really think about what I was doing and now at second nature Yep. Yeah, like uh I I can't play zero ad with this mouse. I tried. I just can't oh, I play everything with my kensington Expert even first person shooters and I'm not horrible at it surprisingly. You would think it's just a horrible gaming mouse I do okay. I'm right here. I play city skylines and several other other ones with track ball I never put put a regular mouse on Really same same Well, I'm gonna have to try it man. You guys would convince me. I want to try it Okay, I did not know that the mx ergo Was a thing I thought there was like a mouse that was like that's that's what this is. This is the mx ergo Wait, hold it up again, josh That's the mx ergo. I was you must have shown it off while I was too busy being So where's the ball? I don't know It's on the side and you can Yeah, I can also have the tilt stand Yeah, yeah here. Yeah, it's just under the magnet Yeah, it's just under the magnet. It's really good. Oh nice Um Now if you don't want to go if you want to ergo mouse that is in a track ball Logitech makes one that is like straight up and down that you move around Um, I've never tried it. It feels like it would hurt my wrist No, but it just doesn't seem natural as as josh can attest this position of this mouse It's no economic. I never suffered Super comfortable Yeah, I have one around here somewhere. I just don't care for the thumb tracking. I'm on It's a hundred bucks to this day. It didn't depreciate Well, yeah, that's a hundred dollars. I'm not gonna have any years four years ago five years ago I'm just over here chilling with my uh My ten dollar buga mouse room five below It came with the computer No, even my cheap mouse has to have the uh rgb's Oh, uh, this one is the rgb Oh, there it is. Yeah, that's a logitech. That's another logitech Yeah, so I bought this. Okay. This is for first person shooters when it was first came out It was is the razor death editor v2 or v2 or whatever This day was a hundred twenty nine dollars Yeah Jesus Like very simple Oh, come on mice are almost exactly like keyboards Alex. Yeah, you're right. You want to spend? Yeah, you're all right dollars on it. You can do it. Um, yeah Because because switches switches are a thing like if I mean if you're you're like a professional Gamer or whatever you really do pay attention to what switches it has the actuation to sound Yeah, with the weight of the mouse. I mean right now the I mean The weirdest ones and I can never get used to it Is those are those mouse those mice that have The holes in it like they really really light and they're like you can see through them Like I don't get it, but they're a light. They're a light. Yeah, they they swear by them because you can move them around so fast Really? Aerodynamic Yeah, well, well, it's not about aerodynamic It's because like the frame and there's like no filler in the mouse So like it's extremely light and a lot of them have like built-in Just like that. Yeah has holes in it No, there's like they're more extreme than that where there's all that doesn't make sense The holes are covered the holes are covered by your hand. Oh, they're on the side, too But it reduces the direction. It's all about weight. It reduces the weight Now but if you keep your balls clean Good tip though. That's a really good tip But if you keep the track balls clean They I mean just the slightest movement moves them. So I So you get the same effect. You know what demonetized Let me check the stream is it still up? speaking of Useless mouse features I was heavy into case modding back in the early aughts And like before I discovered linux really I was into case modding And there were people that would drill holes in their mice like these weight reduction ones But they would wire in a five volt little teeny tiny fan To pull their sweaty hand and with with mice that had fans in them And alex that's kind of the useless like if you're going to block the airflow with your hand It's only going to be you know, so efficient. Oh, yeah, it's for when you do this method The claw The disturbing thing is I've I've recently figured out that there's a lot Of people that claw their mouse Mm-hmm like a lot Yeah, and I'm like it's designed for your hand to just cup it Yeah, when they're wide like that. Yeah, I'm kind of gaming If you're in competitive gaming, I promise you the claw method works because you're literally spinning it fast You can click a lot faster. I know I know but like at that point like aren't you being a little insane and neurotic about how you're Hey, man You are competitive. I get it. But like if you're just playing like hey when there's money on the line and yeah You'll do whatever it does. Yeah I understand it if you're like a pro player like going to tournaments But like if you're just if you want to play with your friends in like warzone or something like you're not Competing like at that point like you're going to be doing this for a while. You're supposed to We're not competing when we play Say you're playing this game. You're competing, dude You crushed a noob the other day just to win First day new The way this conversation is going I just want to make sure and like clarify this Is or isn't going to end with us playing zero ad It might but I've got to grab lunch first, but you know, yeah, I'd be around I may or may not be able to join. I've got some out of town Yes, it has to happen after this. I can't seriously. Oh, yeah, you guys have a meeting Unless you have to attend there is a linux cast Do we need to industry matt? Let me know if we need to probably do because it's been three hours and 15 minutes And these guys still got what how long do you guys record? It's gonna go see but even he lost a we're having so much but even he lost track of time I'm always waiting for matt to This has been a second I have not really got come on man. I got I got to create the graphics. I got to create the screen And it is a Saturday. Come on now. You should have said something bra Ah, that's having fun. Yeah We are having fun. This is great. A bunch of nerds sitting around talking about track balls keyboards and links. Come on man We're all in we're all in dude. That's all you got to drop forever, man. We need to do this Christmas we just need to do it once a month Yeah, who's down for another holiday special like this next year That's all yeah Assuming everybody's still around Don't act like you're going everywhere I'm talking about if things have been prison to death. I mean If i'm in prison i'm using collie linux. I'm just gonna go there Now we're gonna see what happens after he runs a fellow the zsa cartel. I got it. I got to say man We'll go ahead and wrap up because I want my brother matt to get on his thing man But this is my linux family and I really Enjoy spending this time with you guys, man I'm humbled that you guys accepted the invite to come do this man And i'm just grateful that you guys are willing to do it again next year And we can maybe get it better and that kind of stuff and there's some other plans that we're talking about Down the road. Oh, yeah Coming down the road that might involve some of you guys because i'm a visionary and I and that's one of the things I do tyler can tell you about that We've got some pretty stoked plans for doing like you know concerts for like maybe a meet and greet and live For fans to come and see us. We know get someplace, you know, kind of can join somewhere, you know, that's centrally located And uh do something like that, you know and get the get the boys together again and do this So, I mean, there's a lot of possibilities for this down the road. Yeah, we've got to bring that some nuggies You guys are a bunch of assholes Nug-nug-nug-nug-nuggy I mean, there's there's some other plans down the road man That think's going to benefit all of us in great ways and I think it'll just be awesome And I just want to say, you know, once again Merry Christmas to you guys. Thanks for being here. It made my Christmas This was my Christmas gift. Thank you so much guys Yeah, it was fun, right? I will take this opportunity to announce one thing If all goes well I might be having a trip down the us of it Oh, that'd be cool That's cool and aware yet, but if it's close to any of you guys, we'll we'll hook up just knock on the door Yeah My door I am at home You just gotta remember that I believe the state of Ohio is actually bigger than 11 on Every state of Rhode Island I don't know Delaware and Rhode Island are pretty small. Okay, we'll go give our last minute thing already did mine Josh you got a last minute thing? Uh No, bye everybody Derek peace guys Steve you already did yours Jesse No, we're we're in it together. Well, that's a wrap. Happy holidays folks. What's up, Nate So I just got one question for DT. I need help secure my password. Um, anyways, happy holidays. Hope you guys enjoy Oh Matt my brother go ahead, uh, shop that the links cast at orc. I'm the new Linus I mean I put my support page earlier, so I guess he could he could plug his merch store. There you go I don't have a store yet, but it's coming I still have like the desk mat just sitting here. I haven't put it on the desk yet Look at that thing. Isn't it? Actually hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. That is sleek Yeah, that's pretty cool. The only thing that it needs Hold on hold on all it needs. It needs the perfect logo underneath it, which is keep on linux it No, it needs this is not a gentoo mouse pad All right, Tyler you're next Oh Yeah, there is it's literally right under the the right foot. It's partially cut off I'm gonna have to grab one of those Nice. Yeah, I'm a good grab one that's on your