 Hello Quantum wasp and the other wasp ant wasp in the mania quantum and quantum in Vanierville Tom of solace many people even saw that film a lot of people don't even remember us about I certainly don't Yeah, I couldn't tell you what that one was about rags. Do you ever watch Bond James Bond? I've seen some they've been fine. Who's your favorite Bond? Oh I Think that I really like Pierce Brosnan Bond. He just I really like him Where are you free? problem is I haven't seen enough of each Given Bond to really make an informed decision about which one I like the most Like it would be just totally arbitrary I think I like I like Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnan. They just seem to be very bondy You know, it's very easy to imagine bond in their face sort of fills in the the ether Striking is the two most popular choices. I think they did a good job. I think so I wouldn't be sure. I'm not sure. I don't know how many people say Daniel Craig is their favorite, you know by comparison He annoys Bond fans though because of his comments about how much he hates playing Bond Yeah, I mean, that's not that's not a great strategy to win them over. No Anyway, we're here to read some messages that came in while we were talking about the Ant-Man. So That's exactly what I shall now do The movie included ants for their socialism they left out wasps because they're pollinizers Fun Anyone else disappointed that the trailer showing Kang offered Scott the five years he missed back was just false advertising Yeah, it's annoying Well, maybe they changed their mind on that one Definitely, which shows you how close to the final cut like significant changes get Well, yeah, I think they'll reshoot in that film in January It just sounds like a better film already the idea that he's gonna offer his daughter's life that he missed To you know back Yeah, but uh, maybe that was a little bit too emotionally resonant and potent now like nah, that's uh, it's a little bit It's a little bit too, uh interesting how about instead he just says i'll kill her if you don't do the thing I want you to do There you go I mean that's I guess that's instant drama I suppose like imagine Kang didn't even capture him He just just said listen, I need an ant person to do a job And uh, if I if you do this I will be able to give you You know blah blah blah time blah blah blah And then you know during his mission Uh, he meets back up with what's your name and then she's like actually I know he's evil, you know, and then Yeah, I just I don't know. I'm just it's just annoying Oh, just anything else probably couldn't anything else. Yeah No, we got modoc. Look at him. There you go. Yeah Hey guys, what do you think of the simpsons movie? Really good I have not seen the simpsons movie. I like I probably say I hear it's good Last really quality Um Piece of simpsons like material when I say really quality It's still not like as good as golden age, but it's uh, it's pretty funny. I think so. Yeah How come they never met another one? Uh, I'm not sure why they didn't because the first movie was very successful Um, it wasn't a very expensive film to make and it made a lot of money um So I'm not sure why I think they floated the idea, but it's just not comes in fruition for some reason It was ages ago, right 2007 Uh, yeah, which um means that we're about as far removed from the simpsons movie as the simpson movie was from the beginning of the simpsons itself Yeah, budget of 75 million and will why gross of five three six million All right, traditionally animated film. Those are some good numbers. Yeah, that's pretty good That's not a very expensive traditionally animated film compared to like disney And it made about as much money as a lot of the disney films would have made in the renaissance You know era not the renaissance era, you know, like at the early modern period No, the renaissance, you know the disney renaissance in the nineties. I'm not sure what I haven't made one um, I guess the interesting part is that a lot of the There were at least a few of the veteran simpsons writers were involved in writing the simpsons movie um Whereas, you know, there's there's nobody left from like those first 10 years. I don't think I don't think Yeah Little fun fact in sonic the hedgehog 2 when sonic and knuckles are fighting in the temple the track I shrink therefore I am from the ost of ant man and the wasp is used Uh, really? That's um Is that like a matter of music that they just ended up sticking with completely or no clue That's uh fascinating Here's some money for those awesome pfps. Yeah, this is when we arrived at with the council of modox As someone just said this is this where I sign up for the council of modox. Yes Just can give Callers an incursion in the qr like in mom Don't ask Too difficult too too hard and apparently incursions are going to be the big thing to judge like to create the avengers threats and stuff Why are you going to run with incursions? Yeah, thanks michael with it. Wow Nobody even knows what they are. They're just going to make it up as they go along. We'll be like incursions are just time problems There's an excuse to put in whoever we want from whatever thing we want Imagine they go as far as turning incursions into like paradoxes instead like because the riders just don't talk to each other Really, they just mix it up and they're just like, yeah an incursion is when you have two of yourself in the same position When they shouldn't be or some bullshit And here's the big problem guys is no matter what they say about yeah, we're going to slow down We're going to take our time. We're going to you know Try and focus more on quality control. The problem is you are running forth with like some pretty bad foundations To say that they're pretty bad would be to put it lightly Um, the foundations are fucked And they now need to move forward with them So, yeah, I I think it's probably I don't know. I don't think you can recover Narratively speaking anyway Definitely in big trouble If you saw yeah, I mean It really is just they they really just don't have any foundation for me to Care about I'm just like I just don't give a shit about what's going on And what it's happening to Like is it don't give a shit I'm and I mentioned like guardians is the end of the That ip and then all that's left is spider-man's high school. No college years Colleges and that's more or less the only thing I'm I'm still interested in is spider-man after uh guardians Um, if you saw time as I do you'd give money to the german People do give money to the Germans. It's a german It says something that my normie friend that usually watches marvel with me said can we just hang out at home instead? We play a board game do we have to go see a marvel film Pretty funny. Can I do anything else, please thought of watching game of thrones? Wanted to for a while given your rage videos. I wanted to watch the rest of series though. Just witnessed the red wedding also Yes, I forgot how super chats work Oh, well, you nailed it. So don't worry about that, but As for yeah, the red wedding was big huge awesome event. Well written payoff Season three finale ish game of thrones time back when things went piss back in the before times Uh, I took a girl to see ant man three on our first date. Hopefully she gets the message Uh, there's a couple messages you could draw from that like you hate her or the you don't want to pay attention to the movie You want to do all the stuff, you know, there's there's Hopefully she doesn't hate you Wings quote of the day, I don't celebrate holidays. So wishing me merry christmas is kind of pointless All right, that sounds reminiscent of what he said about when somebody wished him thanksgiving It was like, you know, you're not even american so i'm not sure why you'd be you know saying happy things Like if if you don't live in america, you can't observe that it's a holiday in america and wish them a happy Thanksgiving This is if you search his name on youtube all you get is like Wings of redemption down the rabbit hole the continual fall of wings of redemption the tragic tale of wings of redemption Yeah, all you get bombarded with is essentially the fall from I suppose some level of grace Have a long life It was just that era that was like the machinima respawn like call of duty commentary sort of era And he was he was one of the early ones It's it's it's kind of interesting. It seems like boogie might have been the same case as well All right, it's like, whoa, you were early And there wasn't a lot of competition in those spaces You know mean well now He's got neon lights in the background now What wings and he's kind of trying to grow a goatee Oh, okay. Is he the thing is he can he could sound it around Those two pieces of information Oh neon lights and an attempt at a goatee. All right. He's turning it around everyone It's the little things right it's the little victories the the small the small battles prevailing over them You know growing a goatee is a is a battle Or something to battle in it in itself. Yeah Unfortunately, the the reality is that if you're trying to grow a goatee, that means you cannot grow a goatee Which means shave your face He I think he's just letting the whole thing grow like the whole beat He's not you have to you have to shave it more often than he is I guess I think he's just being lazy and not shaving and uh Probably what's going on and does that not offend you rags? Um, yeah, kind of does religiously I think that I think that uh I see this a lot young men In particular with women you don't get this too much but with young men they're they're They don't really grow facial hair that much or that well And um, it it it takes either forever for it to grow or they just don't grow much And they they choose to keep it on their faces and it just looks really unappealing um These tiny little bits of hair that's kind of speckled on their chins and maybe on their upper lip And i'm like guys just shave it off man. Just go clean. Go the clean shaven look You're not like a big boy because you're starting to grow facial hair and you're like 30 Like not everyone grows facial hair. It's just not it. It's not everyone's the same So that's that's sort of a tough thing to accept isn't it that you can't It's like you know going bald You know it was like just when you start going bald and shave it off and go with the bald look George carlin disagrees with you. He thinks that you should just own the fact that you're balding Oh, well, he's wrong. Um Basically, you know if you got a you just you know, you're balding like don't shave. Yeah You had it never looks good on a white guy. I think was the joke Oh, I definitely don't agree with that. Um, but uh, yeah He didn't shave his head even when he was fair. Yeah Yeah Totally fair. Um, but yeah my like with my family. It's a huge mixed bag on if you grow a facial hair or not Um, like my brother grows a full beard and everything And my dad he sort of grows facial hair sort of kind of in the middle But it doesn't really go all the way around my grandpa. I've never seen him with any facial hair my other one I never met he died when I was too young. Um, and So it's like in like like cousins. It's super hit and miss Um What cousins and uncles whether it's facial hair or not and I grow up pretty decently I don't grow like a full beard. I just I just never ever could I just doesn't even grow there But I grow really nice, you know, kind of in the middle sort of like my dad does Um, and so I keep that trimmed and looking nice and and I really like the look But some people just don't grow Facial hair But you know because they're you know men and they have some just They grow Yeah, yeah, and it's fine. It's like you're not lesser of a man because you don't grow facial hair It's just some men just don't it's just just some people do and some people don't So just keep yourself clean shaven. It's a good totally. It's a totally fine look chicks. Dig it It's nice and easy. Just go zoop zoop Take care of it because you know, I just just go with it. It's fine Don't hang on to this idea that you need to have facial hair to be viral or to be manly or to you know exude this You know masculine kind of vibes like no, you don't have to don't feel like you need to because you're doing yourself a disservice And you're shooting yourself in the foot by hanging on to these little scraggly messy tiny Semi-translucent hairs on your face like you're an adolescent, you know You're right. This will come from just wigs this goatee Look that bad. Well, I guess it's prompted it because it's something that I'm pretty sure rags is complained about of like not shaving your neck Like I The neck bear I feel like uh, I get the impression that like Men could be helped out tremendously. We're just like You know what just like, I don't know like attending one class on like making sure that you're well groomed, you know Rooming. Yeah, very big. I just you can get a cheapo 25 buck electric shaver from amazon And that'll work just fine for most guys And just just have a yeah shave your neck hair down there Uh, and why I suppose it speaks to uh, kind of almost the dichotomy in terms of the standards that will be imposed on the sexes You know how like Kind of with women There's almost this very high bar that's socially set in terms of uh being well, you know roomed and well presented Well hept I suppose whereas with men it's like uh fucking whatever, you know Like, you know, it needs me to actually carry yourself really at all I don't know. I think with I think that as guys we might have that perspective because we don't really pursue most You know, this is since the vast majority of people are straight They don't really look at other guys as you know, something to be attracted by So we might not even really think about how guys sort of present themselves But I think to women it's of even more importance That a guy can do those sorts of things. Oh, I I don't doubt that it's I guess what i'm saying is it's like almost a lack of awareness of it just helps tremendously to just like Shave The little things Like the little things Like the back and getting a long a long way getting a shirt that fits properly those sorts of things but like, you know Yeah, I've yeah, please get a shirt that fits. I mean, I mean look if wings of redemption can do it because he's growing a goatee Then you can do it too. All right. Yeah, if wings of wings of liberty is too lazy to shave a goatee That means you just want a little top hat there. Oh, is he wow No, it's not even a little top hat. That's a big top hat Oh, that's a pretty neat hopefully, uh because one of the things I know that things of redemption uh Struggles with sometimes is that he wants to play other games But he gets more viewers when he plays call of duty, but he hates call of duty as he will as he will often uh explain So hopefully people were okay with him, you know taking a break from call of duty to to play Elden Ring. Yeah Bonus quote I don't feel like same pimp. I'm in a bad mood Yeah only fair Um Open the blast doors close the blast doors That's a reference to something right Something right Blast doors that sounds fun I don't remember. Is it That's Star Wars Yeah, yeah 100. I'm not fucking yeah, hon Oh, yeah, I'm solo with the stormtroopers. I for a second there. I was like, are you memeing? Yeah, like it's yeah, hon solo Yeah, because remember the the um the stormtroopers are saying close the blast doors close the blast doors to trap them in or to Make it look like you're trapping in hon solo shoots it Then they say no open the blast doors because we got to get through too, you know some reason I was my brain went to a parody movies first I was thinking space balls and I was looking through my space balls files in my head like Uh to be fair destroying a timeline is no big deal. Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great It's money python song. Yes, that is fair, you know really what what's the difference really My favorite money python songs. I think uh bright always look on the bright side of life is going to be the top one great song Uh uplifting message Uh the legitimately good song. I really like it a whole bunch and after that It's probably eric the half of b All right I like the old ant-man theme too bad this movie happened to ruin it I can't remember the ant-man thing I don't think that the new rendition ruins it, but I certainly think it lacks the clarity of the original I prefer the original. Yeah You don't remember it rags Maybe if I heard it again Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do Is that helping? I don't think it's well Yeah, it just doesn't quite it's one of the themes I like. Yeah same as my safe. Yeah, it's an eight one But the new one's a little bit more uh Loud I think Yeah, for whatever reason it just isn't sticking with me and a lot of times music does but for whatever reason it's just Just slipping away I an Iron Man theme give it a try. I'm now gonna test you on Marvel music Yeah, and we're not doing Avengers. That's too easy. No, that's why it's so easy. Give me an Iron Man theme I'll accept any Wow I Was hoping you go oh, I recognize that I think that's all I wanted I think it's been too long since I've seen the Iron Man movie What about Captain America you got anything? Oh? This should be easy. This one should be easier as far as I'm concerned. I probably Well No, okay, no, maybe it's just the way that you're doing it. I don't know Of course Guardians you remember guardians, don't you come on, you know, probably if I heard it but not off the top of my head Sorry, you don't know it then No, not the guardians one. No, but it's one of those if I hear it The most familiar of the three Jesus I just I just don't remember what's spider-man's You know that come on this one plays like a million times in every No, god Yeah, MCU spider-man give me a second Yeah music tends to stick out for me It with MCU I just it really isn't which is so weird because there's so many so much music that I Like having my head and could so the thing with Spider-man that blows my mind is that is like the most recurring one of all of the A few to kick off That no you hey, you know what that wasn't too bad, right? Yeah, it's your brain is putting things together I just I can't remember I like legitimately can't put it together in my head, and I know I've heard it so much I've I know I've heard these so much, but I just I just can't remember MCU music It's okay. If you don't remember I legit just don't for and I know I've seen these movies many of them like multiple times and like I've seen you know the song, right? Well, you did three we can Well one of them was three but one of them was one well kind of it was it was one of the songs from that film Do you remember the black Adam theme rags? rider Because like the Wonder Woman one is stuck in my head. Yeah, but that's cuz I that one It's really that's really yeah, but it's really insistent It used to be really cool now. I don't like it anymore I used to like it and I ruined it whereas like MC Spiderman They kept doing so many different interesting things with it that I I love it but like when it comes to a whole lot of like classical music and all the like all the light motifs of The Lord of the Rings and like all the Star Wars stuff like I've got I've Just like a lot of that stuff just sticks in my head. I feel like I could fucking hum the Vortex New World Symphony, but a lot of it for whatever reason the Star Wars are not Star Wars the the MC Stuff, it just doesn't it's not sticking with me. So Well, remember there was every frame of painting video about it not sticking with people though It was baffling that none of those people knew the Avengers theme Like that blew my mind because everybody knows the Avengers theme, right? Yeah, exactly, it's real easy to remember to I guess it's interesting like how music will stick with people because I Would say that I remember a lot more music than I think the average person watching like films Ted's to remember Yeah, I'm not sure why I remember something so much and other things just I think Attachment to whatever it is Right, like I remember Terminator theme very well. I remember all the Star Wars music really well I remember a lot of video game music really well But I mean how is it that I can remember the video game music from video games? I haven't played other than just I think the compositions are cool when I heard them Like I knew what the Resident Evil 4, you know Save music was like before having played the game because it's super iconic and it's really memorable Hmm, I don't know that we'll ever figure out the answer to how yeah, I'm just not sure Remember any of those well, let's see if it's saying at all rags. What's the Guardians one? No, I'm not gonna be able to come it to you. Oh, I'm just not I'm just not I'm not gonna be able to I just don't know Where to even start Because I like I love those movies I think they're great, but I just the Guardians theme. I just can't I can't hum it I just can't pluck it out. Well, what's what's the Captain Marvel thing more Captain Marvel fuck? Oh Cuz I couldn't tell you what it was. I don't even know I can't know that she's probably got one I just I don't know what it is one. I think but uh Yeah, they um, I don't know what's I remember I found she hoax particularly generic Whatever fuck. Yeah, I think I my brain is playing with it and my head and I'm like go away It's uh, yeah incredibly Incredibly generic. I don't know what runners, are a babe was nope I don't know all the black widow one was either I forgot now. Well, I wonder if that's a matter of our out Rags Doctor strange Oh Is that one they play a lot? They keep consistent on that one to something how's it start? I basically just gave it away. That's the whole thing. That's Dr. Strange. Well, I'm one one. I was interested in it because that one's like being into my skull. I thought it was mostly the same for everybody. The dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead. It's so mechanical. I already that one through into other versions, right? When he's flying like the suit for the first time, they incorporate a lot of that sort of structure into that song as well. It's kind of crazy that they decided not to stick because you know, the Iron Man three one, it's like that's like fine on its own, but it really doesn't seem befitting of Iron Man. It just came out of nowhere. It's like, oh, we're doing this now. Okay. And it's very orchestral compared to what Iron Man school like soundtrack was before, which was much more rock infused. It is interesting to think about. It's kind of interesting as well as I think like DC for a time kind of because like the soundtrack for Man of Steel and Batman V Superman is pretty great. I like it a lot. Um, it's just a shame, just a shame that it's hard to latch onto those for characters, you know. What about the Yodeling? Do you love that? Well, yeah, but that wasn't Han Zimmer. No, I don't, I never know. I didn't like the Yodeling, but I like Lex Luthor's steam a lot. That one was interesting. Do you remember it? No. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I like that one. It's again, it's a shame. What we've learned is, I don't know what we've learned other than ranks doesn't know Marvel music. No, I really don't. Let's be real, most people probably don't. Yeah, just don't. It sucks because there's loads of good songs in there. Though I would have some faith that people remember the Guardians. Like I'd hope to hear the Guardians stuff come back in the third one. I don't see why I wouldn't. They brought it back in the set. It just seems like there's no reason not to keep themes running. Everybody like like what is like if there's some, the battlefield kind of has uncalled duty. It's that it has like a theme that's persisted since the very beginning. And like what you get with each different game is a different rendition of the same theme kind of, you know, tailored to whatever the time period is that that battlefield game is set. And it's like really cool to have that running over the course of 20 years. I think again, like since we're getting so many sad things that are going to happen in this third one, and it's like the end of an era, I would expect a slow piano version of the Guardians theme to show up. Well, it's kind of what they did with, kind of what they did with Spider-Man, right? Where there was a much more grand version of the MC Spider-Man theme at the end there. Yeah. Well, you got your money's worth, whatever your question was. I don't think that had anything to do with it. Question did it. I think it would ask the question, yeah. Well, anyway, and Queen is a misnomer. They are really just birthing slaves. Yeah, like a queen. Also, Type 2 Civ means they physically build a Dyson Sphere. They should kill Kang in 10 minutes. Yeah, Type 2 means you've essentially gained control over your solar system. Yeah, and I think people's defense would be that Hank's talking out of his ass and it's like, yes, Hank Pym, he's talking out of his ass. Yeah, Hank Pym, one of the smartest people on Earth, doesn't know what a Type 2 civilization is, and I'm me, all right? He knows what they are. Maybe they are. It's just that they seem pretty limited against Kang, don't they? Well, I think that the reality is that a Type 2 civilization might be straddling the line of incomprehensibility. Yeah, what I'm getting at is like, someone might think, what do you mean they beat Kang? And I'd be like, no, no, no, I mean, like, why aren't they annihilating him? Yeah. Well, I mean, let's put it this way. There is not, on the Kardashev scale, we're not like that far from like the Napoleonic era, like on that scale. But imagine the Napoleonic army going against like the modern US army today. Like, it's not even, like that wouldn't even be anything. It would just be over before it even started. And we're talking like leagues more advanced once you get into like Type 2. Like Type 2, I'm pretty sure is not even on the cards for humanity for like, presumably centuries, maybe even thousands of years. But the ants, they got it all figured out. And their strategy was bum rush Kang. Like, okay. As a physics student, I'll say that in the real world, this place would be a nightmare. Shrodinger's equation would mean having a location is impossible, not to mention quantum tunneling and relativity. Hey, look, all right, you think that they even opened one physics book writing scripts for this? They saw the title, but we could just do that quantum. There we go. You can do whatever you want. It's not like quantum physics is like a field of physics that is routinely being studied. It's just like made up bullshit. It's not like we have, it's not like we figured anything out about it. If I start a campfire, does that burn a galaxy's worth of micro life? If that's the case, that's hilarious. Also high modoc. No, the quantum realm is like the size of, like I said, the state of New York, maybe even less. It's more like Rhode Island. And it can be accessed from anywhere. Yeah, from just any place on Earth. So it also seems to be infinitely large, but like not? Well, I mean, in terms of like a scale, it should be infinitely large to like, like the universe is infinitely large. And like the quantum realm is presumably in this universe. So like on a scale, it would just be like, it'd be like the universe times by like numbers that I don't even, like I can't even figure out, you know, like numbers I haven't even heard of, like in terms of figuring out that scale, but whatever. No, it's just like one city. I mean, it's infinitely confusing. That's for sure. Well, that's, that's what they're relying on, right? Because if it's no clue how any of this is going on, the writers are setting up Kang is our greatest hero in the war against the other Kang's he, like he who remains has seen the future and understands their importance in defeating the other variants. Do you think that he would do a better job of just explaining all of that? So if that's actually anywhere near where we're actually going, like the the one in Ant-Man will be eventually the guy who like saves the universe from the other Kang's Christ. Well, the big problem that they're facing is that in terms of introducing him as the big bad of this saga, man, you had one opportunity like to make a good first impression and Jesus. Yep. There is no way Kang's conquer universes with reality warpers and celestials with only a traditional army. I mean, yeah, they and then I didn't understand why he was bringing that army anywhere. Like he was like, prepare, we are going to the surface like what are you doing with them? Yeah, it's a what end. You need some like hyper high tech stuff that I wouldn't even understand. I thought that was all in a ship. I didn't realize you needed an actual like standing army, like what do they do? It's a good thing they sent Kang to the quantum realm on earth. Specifically, is it just it's funny you say that because it's like, is it just the quantum realm about a way you are in universe? Like you could be on fucking Marvel's planet and just that's so the quantum realm is like actually not big at all. Sorry, I mean, I don't I don't think anyone knows what the fuck's going on. Does spring you ever seen a happy tree friends would love to hear his thoughts on that cartoon? Yeah, of course, I've seen happy true friends. That's a relic of the like late 2000s early 2010s on the internet. I bought the box crazy great by the box set. Oh yeah. I remember when I got shown it. I think it was like on a bus trip and then somebody was watching it on their iPod and they showed it to me. I was like, Oh my God, this is awesome. Do you know the intro theme for them? Yeah, just fucking that. But so many noises was Yeah, it's all like really happy and also but that you see death first draft and then it's got a blank in quotations is what all of these movies and shows have become first draft jokes first draft plots first draft characters first draft drama. It's all mindless because they don't respect it through. There's no respect for the writing process from the people who are writing all the way up to the people who are paying for all this. I presume that what the commenter is pointing out as well as no respect for the material the original material. It's like, yeah, this is not even they barely respect their own work. Of course, they don't respect the source. That is a it does seem like they barely respect their own work, doesn't it? Absolutely. To end the Kang phase, the new Avengers will have to find and kill original Kang. Oh, dude, imagine they do a fucking BioShock Infinite where they're like, have to go to the first Kang that split all the other Kang's off. Well, and they drown the Hulk because he's the last one left. They drown like the original Kang or something before he discovers the power to that's going to be it, isn't it? That's actually going to be how they beat him. They have to go back to what is your name? He's Kang. He's he who remains. No, I'm both. Oh, my God, people thought that was brilliant. It was so bad. It's grandfather paradox. It's just like fucking dub all those all the Elizabeth's are there to drown you. It's just like I don't remember if you've been like remember. BioShock. BioShock original like it ends with all those little sisters having grown up thanking Jack for the work that he did. And this one ends with all the Elizabeth drowning. Why am I feeling his name? Okay, yeah, the way. Parallels, guys around as well. It's like, OK, for sure. We're like pair of L's. Yes. Look, guys, what a shitty game. That film. I was when everybody told the game show us were really insecure about their profession. Oh, God, the put the part where the fucking key just like magically appears in her hand. So much like you just gave up. You just fucking gave up. You don't give a shit. You fools. During Cassie's speech, I kept thinking about how much better Marvel's speech was in Andor. I miss Andor. Her speech was badass. Her speech was great. Everybody's speech was great. I loved it. How there's an element of like, I wish I'd done more in my life. I really do. I fucked up by not doing more. And that was represented with every last thing she did in the show while she was alive, too. And then that culminates in the spirit of rebellion that she didn't fully sort of encapsulate. I listened to Luthan's speech the other day for whatever reason. And I was like, God, this is just good. The way that he delivers that he he's like, yes, it's a script, but he's delivering it as if he's sort of making it up as he goes to explain it to the other guy. And it's very done very convincingly. And I just really great. They are they are a gamble, I would say, from a storytelling perspective, because if you nail them, they're awesome. But if you don't, it's like incredibly embarrassed. Yeah, it's cringe. Like it's well, yeah, because Cassie's speech was incredibly cringe. It's not very interesting. And it's not conveyed in a particularly rousing way compared to, yeah, like it was also just one of the people who were pressed or whatever by Kang for this long. And then some girl you don't even recognize comes on screen and says, it's time to rebel. It's like, what are you? Meanwhile, like, Marva, her speech is going out to all these people that we know knew her very well. That's very tight-knit community as we saw throughout the season and that culminates in this. And then like, throwing the the the coat over the trying to hide the message off her face, but you know, shouting fight the empire. It's great. Oh, and of course, uh, Kino Lloyd's speech as well. Oh, yeah. Can I mix up the letters? Yeah, Kino Lloyd. Yeah, both Kino and Luthon's speeches, I think those are in the same. They're in the same episode. Yeah. They're just like, damn, geez. Well, it's just monologues. When they're done, well, it's one of the things that I think all of us love about Mike Flanagan is he's really good at monologues or rather he's great at writing monologues and directing the actors to deliver them fantastically and just be a huge dump of exactly how fitting everything into place about this person that we've seen for a little bit and no actions about it. It's like, oh, this is there. The moment that he tells their back story that makes everything fit into place. I on my mind, the thinking about independent state, you know, that's Roland Emmerich, but I really like the speech that is in that film. You guys remember that one? The president. The one the president gives. Yeah. Yeah. I like that one. We will not go quietly into the night. It's like, yeah, that's an art to even in a silly movie like Independence Day compared to what we got in Ad Memor. It's like, oh, this is just I don't know about that one. Yeah, there's never that moment where you go. Let's go. Yeah. All right. You know, I want to go home. Let's go. I mean, of course, music can help as well because God of War Ragnarok, the big speech right before the battle, it's the music that helps tremendously with that one epic. Greetings, rag. Hey, mailer und frango. Hello. Oh, hey. Is there any reason to why y'all choose your avatars, the dog, the skull with wheels and the frog? Well, I didn't choose the frog, the frog chose me kind of. Oh, wheels. He looks cool. Okay. Good enough for me. The crafting creature from another realm is kind of what he's developed into now. Skull with Wheels is like 2019. I just like, I really like the dog character. I like the Sheba Inu, the very meanie and fun. They're they're peppy and energetic and I just like their their personalities and you know, I just think it's fun. I'm not really attached to it. It's not a fun character. I'm impressed that it wouldn't be a super thorough answer. I just like plague doctors. I've always liked the aesthetic. I like the mask. I think they're cool. Yeah. Bring you the writers room of these movies probably looks like a floor covered in Jim Bean bottles and red solo cups. Yeah, you might be right about that. I don't believe they'd have enough time to finish a ball with how much is spent on these scripts though. It's like, you know, cough out bits and bobs and then they're just done. I came across EFAP recently and it's helped me get through long office hours and London commutes. You have a stream schedule if so, where can I find it? Well, I don't know why people ask this. I'm very confused because we've consistently started at 7 p.m. on a Saturday for like five years. Yeah, it's Saturday's EFAP day. I mean, that's just my life is that Saturday's EFAP day. Yeah. So maybe it's a matter of you're watching it on the Mula channel because this this comes across to me as something that's not even possible, but I shouldn't be so silly about it. There's some people who may be watching EFAP exclusively through Mula and being like, where does this show get it? Like, where is the channel that has this on it? That would be the Mula channel. So that that's we'd find it at 7 p.m. GMT or BST plus one, I think would be the equivalent when it switches over. Oh, no, it switches to BST. I should make sure I yeah, because because your hours have changed now and they rags, but mine are changing soon. Mine are yeah, because because right now it's basically well, it's a matter because I'm going by GMT right now, but I'll be going to BST soon. Our time changes. So it or it March 12th to November 5th. So we should be yeah fresh into a new time. I didn't even notice. I just didn't even notice. Oh, well, didn't you notice? Yeah, it's yeah, we'll be like as I said, BST is British summertime. That starts up I think at the end of March for me. So and we're almost there. But anyway, you know, Saturday's 7 p.m. ish British time. That's that's the easy way to say it. It wouldn't be like that if he only saved one child. Don't know what that is talking about. I'm afraid. What's your favorite movie soundtrack? Mine's either kung fu panda or how to train your dragon. Hello all and rags and especially Fringy kum. Hi. The favorite soundtrack is probably going to go to Fellowship of the Ring. And was it what was there another question in there? No, that was it. Yeah, that's that's what I'm giving it to. Favorite soundtrack. Odd one. So many, you know. Lord of the Rings definitely up there though. Gonna say, you know, Star Wars is in the running as well. And it would probably be Revenge of the Sith out of the six. Why not nine? Why not out of the nine? I only went with the canon films. Didn't want to do the fan fix, you know, feels weird to involve them. I'd say Lord of the Rings and Star Wars like as a package, a real high up for film soundtracks. The Dark Knight trilogy as well has a lot of bangers. Hmm. I'm trying to think about other less conventional choices. Insta-Stella's got a really cool soundtrack. Shame that the film is not so good. It does. Yeah, that's right. I'm still trying to think of more unconventional choices. Oh, Ragnarok. God of War Ragnarok. That's not a movie. Well, kind of. Wow, you're not like a snowy game. Movie game. It's movie game. But I mean, I think it gets an honorable mention because it's got it's, you know, it's got it's, you know, things for characters and it's under different. I mean, I'd say the same thing about Witcher 3. You know, yes, it's not a movie, but like, I almost feel like it's unfair to disqualify games in a lot of ways. Well, funnily enough, if you included games, I'd have a much more exhaustive list, I think. We'll probably cut it off there then. With a lot of films, I'd be picking like one or two key tracks that I love in a lot of films, whereas I think with video games, I could often speak to soundtracks probably because of, yeah, I don't know why, but just because. Have you thought about playing Elden Ring again? I don't really know. I just don't have much of a desire to. Meanwhile, I look forward to the next time I play Bloodborne and someone like Dark Souls 1. Elden Ring, I felt this was going to happen when I was playing it at the time that any thought of playing it in future would mean I see it as this like, it's like Dark Souls 1 but really stretched out. And I don't see the point in playing that instead of Dark Souls 1. And you might be like, well, it plays differently or that it plays more like a DS3. It's like, oh, that's the same deal, like DS3, but really stretched out or really poofed up to be a big old open world. I don't know. This is a question that I find interesting to talk about every once in a while, so I don't want to do it for too long, but just the idea of a tailored world for a particular route and experience or multiple routes and multiple experiences or a big open world where you can just explore at your whims. Like they both have pros and cons, but in Dark Souls and Bloodborne, for example, like I know what challenges they've got set and I enjoy beating them. Meanwhile, in Elden Ring, it's like, all right, that's like a whole huge thing where I'm going to be running around and I'll bump into stuff and yeah, I'd rather go for the tailored experience when it comes to Soulsborne stuff, I guess. That's all I figured out when playing Elden Ring. But if there's an Elden Ring too, I'll play it, I suppose. Which is more than likely considering how much money Elden Ring made. Yeah, seems very likely. Didn't Dan Harmon say that he credited several writers on Rick and Morty despite him writing the episodes himself because they came up with a basic idea? I think that explains a lot, looking at the output of the Rick and Morty alumni on Marvel projects. Not to speak to his character, but it could just be a good faith thing. Like, hey, I'll give you a credit for writing it. That'll help you in future and look what it just did. It gave these people fucking movies, scripts. Yep. Thanks, Dan. Yeah, thanks a lot. Maybe you shouldn't just hand out credits like chewing gum. That should be something you have to earn. I don't know. Antifa Girl and Everyone Else. I guess that's a play on the title. I get it. Antifa, see? There's Ants. Oh, I'm stunned at how much I've stopped caring about the MCU. Last one I've seen in theaters or at home was No Way Home and I have no plans to change that. Well, yeah, we've very firmly moved into the era of we keep an eye on it because it's a fascinating train wreck. It's not to do with enjoying film anymore. Not at this point. But every once in a while, you might get a surprise. You go, oh, wow, that performance. That was something. Oh, that was a joke that I laughed at. Whoa, look at that piece of drama there. That made me think about drama that's good. Because I still reject the whole, like, the notion that, you know, we had this said, like, it's elementary or something. It was when we were covering The Last of Us, that to cover something like Ant-Man or Dark Strange, all the, like, why cover negative things or blah, blah, blah, blah. There's always different reasons when it's like, I think you can get so many interesting conversations out of any one of these superhero movies. Shazam, we've never covered a story with a child, a, like, as young as, like, five or six or seven years old or whatever, getting the powers of Superman. Like, what do you guys have to say about the potential for that kind of story? It's like, oh, fuck, there's so many things you could do with that. That's, uh... Yeah, we discussed a lot of them during the talk. You know, and they give you the opportunity for that to happen. And then we also get to talk about, like, whatever, whatever the things that are happening in that particular plot line, how they did it wrong, and then, you know, ways they can do it right, surrounding matter. And then keep it an eye on box office and stuff. I find it all to be quite interesting. And, you know, if the MCU had zero input or effect on culture, and they were still making stuff, and nobody watched the okayed about it, it's like, well, I guess we would move to whatever the thing, like, whatever the most successful stories currently are. And, you know, it won't be them for long if Disney keep this up. And I think they know that. Yeah, I think there's a lot of panicking. Yeah. Uh, Kang would have won if he turned himself into a pickle. Maybe he would have. Would he be a purple pickle? Like, he can change the shape, but he always stays purple no matter what. Which is, so he has to learn to just change himself into things that are purple, you know, like grapes and eggplants. Yeah. Which he would help, but sometimes it's very strange to have just a random eggplant laying somewhere when you're looking for Kang. It just doesn't really, you know. Kind of sticks out and you're like, wait a minute, that's Kang. And he's like, Oh, quite a second. Is that Kang? I don't know. Kang's blue. He's blue, right? He's like, he's not blue. Like, he's not physically blue. Physically blue? Yeah, like, his skin isn't blue. Because he's mentally blue. He's quite sad. He does seem quite sad. Okay. Been through a lot. There's no way the Kang's who have and want to maintain the monopoly on the multi-facel travel, let Doctor Strange wander and America live. Yeah. I don't even, I don't even know where to begin on, like, who those fuckers in the council are or what they do. I don't know. Yeah, what do they care about? I have no clue. They, do you, Michael Waldron will be fucking controlling that shit, probably. Imagine how awful it'll be. I need to say how awful it'll be. It'll be Michael Waldron and Jeff Loveness. The fucking dream team. Modoc was ahead of its time. He was, yes, very, very good. I feel bad for the VFX people making the moduscy. Moduscy made a brief appearance in the film. Maybe off my game after listening to the recap, but if final Kang's perfect timeline lasts until Loki season one, then shouldn't there be no variant to meet Janet 30 years ago? Is return of the multivice retroactive or have I put more thought into this than they did also that's what the full process becomes. Yeah, the everything you saw is the world before Loki did what he did with the stuff and then it changes everything everywhere or all times. So, yeah, something like that. It's so, it's so like the brain doesn't wrap around it very easily at all. Nobody there doesn't either. Yeah, I just don't think you can make sense of it. It's all nonsense. There's not a human alive who could who could explain to you accurately. Yeah, even the people who write it couldn't explain it to you. Only the people who enjoy and defend it say like, don't think about it and you have to not think about it because it'll never make sense. Who'd win in a fight? Good rat or pretty smart ants? Oh, in a fight? Depends on how many ants there are. That's true. Yeah, I guess it's a type two. You know, if they got to type two, the good rats are gonna have trouble with that. Oh, yeah, if they got to, you know, type two civilization or whatever. I saw a last wish today. I see why you guys love it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. Foolish fringo. You must find and devour the seven crystal babies or spend eternity trapped in the deep didgeridoo. The deep didgeridoo. That's a deep lore reference. That's when Lisa stayed home from school and she was playing Dash Dingo. I remember. Nunchucks, those aren't even Australian. Like koalas with nunchucks jump out of a crate and start beating Dash Dingo to death. Lick a cosmic chicken's neck thing for intelligence. I mean, if you're lucky enough to find a cosmic chicken, the wattle. Yeah, they said neck thing. I don't blame them for that. It's okay that they don't know what the neck thing is called, isn't it? We forgive them. I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah, I guess most people wouldn't know. This one simply says, love you guys. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Did you know you can write marble scripts with chat GPT? It's terrifyingly easy. I saw a Twitter thread displaying all of the features of the birth of chat GPT4 and it is actually getting a little bit scary what it can do. It's like a tool that the guy basically set up the thread as these are just like 20 ways chat GPT can give you a career. And some of it seemed pretty dodgy, but it includes and is not limited to like it's movie scripts is one of the things. It's getting to the point where it can code a game for you as you describe it. Like, yeah, it's getting a little bit intense. And you start you're doing the thing your brain is like, oh man, that plus the stuff I saw about the thing over there with the AI plus the thing I saw that deep fakes the translation of like styles, the audio and the voice stuff. And you're like, it's all happening a little fast. It's all happening very quickly. And then you're like, what's going to what's going to come out of all this? What's the big spooky thing that happens? You're like, no, it could be a big wonderful thing. You're like, okay. Oh, it was a wonderful thing. Hey, just recently started going through your early stuff. And I'm halfway through EFAP 21 and am three. I think episodes away from when Jared comes on. How many more EFAPs are there in the Jared saga? There's not that many. There really isn't. There really isn't that many. He thought of that. Greetings, you massives. To those who've seen chainsaw, man, what did y'all think of it? Haven't seen it. I have not seen it. Is he like a lumberjack? You're a big chainsaw for a face. That's all I know. Oh, see that guy from Resident Evil 4? No, Salvador. Look, Salvador is very unique, busy with his village antics. Fortify your minds, start reading Stoicism. Yeah, that'll do it. I think it is definitely worthwhile to read Epictetus or Seneca Marcus Aurelius. Interesting. Hey, show some fucking respect. I just did. Max, Epictetus is a good thing or a bad thing? Epictetus, I guess, I mean, by definition. Epic, they're epic titties. Now, because I don't think that epic titties necessarily mean very large ones. No, I don't think that's baked into it. I think the part is that they need to be proportional to the rest of the body, and they can't be big. I would say that epic doesn't mean they need to be massive, but epic still means above average size. I think that is essential. I don't know that there's such a thing as a small epic. It seems like a bit of a paradox, an oxymoron. Epic, pretty smart ants. Yeah, what's an epic ant? Is it relative to other ants, I guess? Yeah, well, I assume relative to other ant sizes, right? Like, compared to a door, there's never going to be an epic ant. But if there is an ant that's pretty big relative to ants, and he works really, really hard and does his best all the time and puts others before himself, then yeah, I'd consider that being the epic ant. And if a magical thing happened that made an ant that was bigger than a door, would all the previously epic ants now not be epic because that guy's there and he's clearly the epic ant now? Maybe. Relativity, what can you say? It's definitely something to think about. Howdy massives. What would you say makes dark slash edgy humor work or not? That's the first question. So that's incredibly complicated work. That is incredibly complicated. Something that generally bears true is an edgy joke that pertains to, I don't know, like race or something. Doesn't tend to be funny if the person who's saying it, you get the impression genuinely believes what they're saying. That tends to seriously dilute the humor. So to some extent, you could say that the humor is derived from who's saying it and how they say it. I would argue the more clever and layered and almost even difficult to understand the joke, the more protected it'll be from how edgy you can go. I guess what I mean by that is that if you say a joke that requires three different references that once you piece them together, it's like an incredibly edgy thing that people might laugh at the fact that it, you know, they're like, okay, I wasn't realizing it's almost like a secret club of a joke at that point. And they'll be impressed with the how it was created. So like how ingenious you can be with a joke like that. But sometimes the opposite will happen with how blunt you can be. But obviously clearly joking can also work too. It's such a humor. Humor is complicated. It's very complicated. It's hard to say what makes a joke work. It's just something that generally seems to bear true is if the person actually believes the thing that they're saying tends to not be very fun. But that's why I mean, that's kind of like why dead baby jokes and Holocaust jokes can be so funny is because like that you go into it with the unstated assumption that those things are bad. Then the joke relies on, you know, them being really, really terrible things so to make the joke work. I think what Mola was highlighting was, I guess, that there's shock value from edgy jokes is like a thing that's present in very blunt jokes. But then conversely, yeah, like layer jokes is a little bit more considered and thoughtful than maybe is even like appropriate considering what the subject matter is with an edgy joke. It's humor is complicated. That's the long and short of it. Yeah. Next up, on one hand, I find E.R.'s edge to be hilarious while Synthetic Man's humor is quite snoy, scritches for the good frog. Well, I feel like that. We called it scritches for the good frog. It's super easy to understand the difference between them two. First of all, Synthetic Man was very explicit. He's not joking. Yeah, that's the thing. When he says those jokes about like the Jews and Blacks and gays and trans people and he's like an actual vile person who thinks really awful things about those kinds of people. Yeah, to the point where he'll get defensive. I think one of the best examples in that series of clips was he kept making like woman jokes, right? Which is one thing you can do that. There are some of my favorite edgy jokes will involve shitting on women, right? But in the same way that I involve, I love jokes shitting on everybody pretty much, but he keeps shitting on women just in general and saying, okay, that's one thing. And then it's like, you know, you know the writing's bad because women wrote the game. Okay, keep saying it. And then he says, you know, there were five women or whatever on the team. You're like, yeah, okay, get it. And then he's like, and then he starts saying like, there were five diversity hires. There were five people who were going to destroy this game writing wise. And you're like, okay, I get it. And then someone in chat says, you know, one of those five you listed, she didn't write the game. She only helped with accessibility. And then he's like, well, there's still four other women who wrote it. So, you know, there's no joke there. That's just him expressing the correction on your correction. You're implying that the bad quality is like, you know, reduced by the fact that this woman wasn't necessarily involved in the writing when there's clearly four other women who are. You're like, oh, there's nothing funny about that. You're just not really a joke. Then that's just a stated perspective. And really concerning one. Yeah. And it really upsets you that women are right in the game. Yeah. I mean, what is it about like the Django on chain scene with the Ku Klux Klan, you know, when they're there, like riding off of their horses arguing with each other over the bags that they had cut open. It's like, a lot of what makes that funny is it's like, wow, look at these idiots, you know, like, look at these fools, these morons, only to get absolutely blown away by shots, you know, like it's the recognition of, oh, yeah, these guys are clowns, though. This is absolutely clownish. It's that self-awareness. Yeah. Because there was still, we knew this would happen anyway, but there's always going to be people who are like, wow, so edgy humor is not allowed anymore. And it's like, we're actually probably more okay than most people on YouTube with the edges of things. But as soon as I think you're not joking, it gets real awkward real quick. Because yeah, dark and edgy humor is real cool. And there's a place for it in the world. And I want to reduce the amount it gets shot on. Unfortunately, it's a great old way for other people to cover to be like, yeah, those things, yeah, yeah, those things are true, though. And then you're like, what? They're like, what? Like, we'll talk about something else. It's fine. Speaking of hive minds, did anyone notice how the ant premier hosts followed and shield the Jonathan Majors directive, as opposed to the actual star of the film? Why the pandascent entertainment media? I saw the compilation where everyone's talking about how incredible his acting was and how like, hot he is and stuff. It was kind of weird because there's a whole cast and you're like, hello? But I think they need to make Jonathan Majors kind of happen right now because he's going to be leading the villain end of all the rest of the Avengers shit in this phase and the next phase as well. Exactly. It's important that people and remember, and man, there were versions of this where I didn't even fucking live. So I don't think they care that much about Paul Rudd at this point. But they should because he's good. He's one of the few remaining ones they have left that probably can give them a low energy rather. I was going to say low effort, good performance. Like I don't know if Paul Rudd ever giving in a bad performance really. No, I don't think so. I don't think I've ever seen him go like, oh, that was rough. Yeah. He's reliable. Hello, Massives. Would recommend reading the manga series Chainsaw Man. It is a series about a man that turns into chainsaws. Emotionally broke me. Okay, that's definitely unusual and I believe you that it is a manga. E. Ants aren't people. Fring-doll, Fringler. Wow. Harsh words. I know you said that. We'll have to speak to him later about that. Mm-hmm. Metal, when did you think, when you, when you think do you speak English or German? Oh, they need a comma in there. But when you think, do you speak English or German? That's an interesting question. I think I asked him that semi recently and he said it used to be German, but it's pretty much swapswapsht. That's a word, swapsht to English. But I could be wrong if that was his answer and we'll try and ask him again if we remember to next time we're gonna call with him. I wonder if, like what, like a, like a, like an infant, you know, like the language, the quote unquote language that a, like an infant might think in, if they don't have like a human language, you know, what would they, you know, what would they sort of use to, it's hard to understand to really explain it. I don't really know the words, but like before you know a language, or maybe you've never heard a language, like if you're, you've always been deaf, how do you sort of rationalize the thoughts in your head? You know, things like that. I guess it's just a different way of understanding that I can't really understand myself because I'm just not, you know, I didn't grow up with that, you know, limitation or anything. Granny Zena's introduction scene is a masterpiece. Oh, it's a, it's a piece. Something's happening in there, yeah. It's a piece of something. Ostrich is the name of an avian concentration camp. I get it. Oh, I see. Ostrich. Yep. I've lost all hype for the Suicide Squad game after finding out it is a live service. What are your thoughts? Something that I noticed while watching it, aside from the general concerns about live service stuff, is the game seems to want to heavily emphasize moving around these big like spaces, like these big play spaces and like chaining together, I guess, attacks and stuff. It reminds me of Sunset Overdrive, but the problem that I see and the reason why Sunset Overdrive was so engaging and why I kind of don't view what they showed as particularly engaging is Sunset Overdrive ties rewards to essentially constantly moving, like non-stop jumping between like grind rails and off of like bouncing like trampolines and like wall running and stuff like that and switching weapons with like a, just a plain point system. And then of course, sort of like baked into it mechanically, that it's the same with Ratchet and Clank, right? It's most fun when you're switching between different weapons constantly. That game doesn't seem to have any point system tied to actually moving around a bunch and it seems to have like a two-weapon slot system too, with like very straightforward banal weapons, like just general assault rifles and pistols and stuff compared to like really zany and wacky items. So it's kind of like, comes across as a diet Sunset Overdrive. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't look very interesting from a gameplay perspective, especially for the first Rock Steady game in eight years. Kind of bizarre. It's kind of a little bit strange that this is the product of like eight years of work, seemingly. But I'm guessing that's not the case, that this was decided halfway through that time. I don't know. Yeah, just something looks off. That's for something being a live service. Live services are great if like the game is successful and it keeps going and the live service is worth it. Then live services can be great. However, a lot of live service games release and there's like a season of content, maybe two. And the game just stops getting supported or it ends or the seasons of content just aren't really that good or they're super lackluster, not really worth it. So it can kind of go either way. Yeah, there's definitely something to be aware of. In this case, I just, yeah, I don't know. I think what really threw people off is essentially it's got a very destiny like menu. You know, like it's got all the tabs on the top and like all of the weapons and gears. Like they have those stats just filled with numbers and stuff. It's just kind of like, oh, I don't like to look at that. I think like instinctively it's like, I guess we'll have to see. It might be getting delayed though. So because of the response it got. Yeah, that's a good one. Yes, I'm aware. I mean, that's just the kind of, that's just what you put. The fucked up sign. What did it arrive? They were just like, well, that's the sign. It's better than no sign, I guess. In a way, is it better? Because like, well, it is, you can be the only Kerger Bing. Kerger Bing. Have you guys ever been to the Kerger Bing? Listen, don't be, don't try to be a second rate Burger King. Just be a first rate Kerger Bing. Yeah, I'd buy the Babahook. I guess I'm curious, was this a mistake or what happened? I don't know. Could all be Photoshop, I don't really care, it's just funny. I like to believe that Kerger Bing exists. I hope it's real. Also, Kevin Conroy deserved better. I'm not sure exactly what that's referring to. I'm guessing that is his last role as a suicide squad. But I mean, who knows, right? Maybe the story will be really interesting. Maybe he'll get an opportunity to have been able to like flex his talents one last time. I suppose the awkward part is the game is like the Justice League of the villains. I'm not sure what it looks like if they'd have you tasked with killing Batman, just to be like, oh, you know, it's kind of like, it's not like you fault or anything, right? But like, oh, I don't like that. But yeah, hopefully it'll give, it will have given him an opportunity to showcase his talents one last time. Where does Chilpenguin rank in the MMX Birds? Not like at the top. I remember that there were some other ones that were, that I remember liking, but the problem is I can't give you that list right now. I have not meaningfully ranked the Mega Man Bird bosses. Yeah, sorry. Earlier you said Harrison Ford was only in four Star Wars movies. Actually, he's been in others. He played the only Practical Effect Gungan in the first prequel. Oh, well, that's quite an accolade. There are none. The only Practical Effect Gungan was, I don't even know about this. Was there a Practical Effect Gungan? Was there a Practical Gungan? Yeah. They made a Practical Effect Gungan, but they didn't make one Practical Clone Trooper? Now you're making me think like, was there ever a Practical Clone? There must have been one, right? I don't think there was a single Practical Clone. No, I don't think so. That must have been a commitment to being like, got to have them all look that way because they... I don't fucking get it. I don't get it either. Like, I think they would look so much better Practical. Well, yeah, because they aged like in Attack of the Clones, like they've not aged well. And Revenge of the Sith like the fucking... Like, I don't get it. You had to get to more of Morrison there. You had to get him like moving around. Why would you not just give him a suit to wear? Why would they do that? I don't see the reason for that. That's what I think is baffling me so much. I just don't see the reason to do it. When we were having our discussion on the prequels and stuff, I think we had said they should have made like a dozen so that whenever you have like a couple with the actors and stuff, you have real ones there. And then when you pulled back to the big battles and things of that nature, you could have the CG. Exactly. Exactly. I don't get it. Oh, a bunch. When you have real Stormtroopers and everything. It's just you're making more work for yourself for no reason at all. I get what the movie's getting at, but it's just miserable and nihilistic to sit through. The story is a nihilist's idea of what an optimist thinks. Ant-Man and the lost quantimania. I'm not sure how you... So it's a nihilist's view of what an optimist thinks. I'm really not sure what you're talking about. It's the optimist. Is there a nihilist's like point of view in that film? I'm trying to remember. I don't think so. I have no... Yeah, I'm lost. I don't know. I mean, Kang is like, I need to be freed so I can go stop the other Kang's. And then Scott is like, I want to... Well, they try to imply that he's not helping people much anymore. Yeah, whatever that was. I don't know. I'm not sure where that's coming from exactly. Oh, they said previous chat was talking about the whale. Oh. Nihilist's idea of what an optimist thinks. Oh, they must be talking about Brendan Fraser's character. That he... Because he's sort of an optimist. I don't understand what's... Just thinks nihilistic about a nihilistic view of his optimism, which I don't know that I agree with that. I'm not even sure what to make of that as an optimist. I don't even like... The film's whole point is to live honestly and to think of the best in people. How is that nihilistic? That's pretty not... Yeah, that's pretty nihilistic to be fair. Seems to be the complete opposite. I'd have to know more about your take. I'm sorry. Can't really work with that. But, you know... Rags' voice is the most alive. Everyone else is a pretty dead, especially metal. You see, that's just because I was really excited to talk about... What were we talking about in this episode? That's because I was really, really excited to talk about Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantamania. I was just excited and I was full of energy. I was vibrant. I was ready to go. This was a film that inspired me as it should inspire all of us. Yeah. And if the others didn't share that enthusiasm, I totally understand not everybody's into the same kinds of things. That's totally fine. Totally fine. There's plenty of movies that we talk about that I just don't have an incredible amount of passion for that they do. That's why we make a great team. I'd say so. Alive and dead together. It creates nothing but undead or something. What, brothers? And the final message. Thoughts on Little Big Bigger. I don't know what that is. Me either. I don't think I know what that is either. Damn. Oh well. I'm sorry, buddy. Okay, well, thank you all for tuning in and we shall see you on the next thing that relates to whatever it is that we're up to. Thank you very much for the kind donations and messages. We will see you next time. Bye. Bye-bye.