 Call to order. This is the third regular meeting of the 2010-2011 Common Council and as is customary our city clerk Sue Richards will read the quote of the evening Thank You mayor Give to us clear vision that we may know where we stand and what to stand for because unless we stand for something We shall fall for anything Thank You sue roll call, please Warren here Bulk here Bowers Decker Yesha here Hammond here Hanna here Heidemann here Cotter here Kittleson excused Montemay or here Ratke here Rinflaish here Vanderweel here Percy here and Wongamang 15 present We have a quorum and now if alderman bulk can please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank You Corey Looking for approval of the minutes of the prior Common Council meeting a motion to approve the minutes second We have a motion and a second under discussion If there is none all in favor see aye aye opposed motion carries Mayor's oh mayor's appointments President Kisha You honor I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules Okay All right, we'll let Steve go first. We'll let Steve go first Honorable members of the council hereby submit the following appointment for your consideration Barbara can off to be considered for appointment to the Housing Authority to fill the unexpired term of Toby Watson Whose term expires on 422 2013 signed by the mayor Thank You Steve President Kisha around to motion to suspend the the rules so that the appointment may have a motion in a second for suspension of the rules Is there anybody opposed to suspending the rules? I will explain why we're suspending the rules because The Housing Authority has a meeting coming up by this coming week and they would like Ms. Knelf at that meeting If there is no Opposition the rules are suspended Looking for a motion or a motion to approve the appointment second We have a motion in a second to approve the appointment under discussion Little information about this canal, please if you got any mayor Miss Knelf has been on the Housing Authority for many years She was originally going to be replaced by Toby Watson However, there was a residency issue that came up the Housing Authority requested that That Ms. Knelf be reappointed to the Housing Authority and I agreed so she is has been on the Housing Authority for many years Any further discussion there There is no discussion roll call, please I Motion carries Public forum No public forum this evening our next on the list is a proclamation mayor's proclamation for the National Day of Prayer. I know that there's been a little bit of Some action from the Freedom from Religion Foundation 14,500 members strong that Opposed the National Day of Prayer, however in keeping with our theme of majority rules 330 million other people are The majority over fourteen thousand five hundred people So if you are a member of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, please close your ears at this time Office of the mayor city of Sheboygan proclamation In prayer let us ask that God's light may illuminate the minds and hearts of our people and our leaders so that we may meet the Challenges that lie before us with courage and wisdom and justice in prayer Let us recall with confidence the promise of old that if we humble ourselves before God and pray and seek his face He will surely hear and forgive and heal and bless our land by joint resolution of the Congress approved April 17th 1952 the recognition of a particular day set aside each year as National Day of Prayer has become a cherished national tradition Since that time every president has proclaimed an annual National Day of Prayer Resuming the tradition begun by the Continental Congress now therefore I Bob Ryan mayor of the city of Sheboygan do hereby Proclaim Thursday May 6 2010 as the National Day of Prayer in Sheboygan and call upon our citizens to join me in prayer that day I ask them to gather at Fountain Park at noon or in their homes and places of worship With their ministers and teachers of religion and heads of families to give thanks for every good thing God has done for us and seek his guidance and strength in the conduct of our lives in witness Whereof I have here unto set by my hand and cause the great seal of Sheboygan to be affixed Done this third day of May in the year of our Lord 2010 signed by myself. Thank you Mayor's announcements the only announcement I have is the National Day of Prayer is on Thursday. There are many meeting places In the in the city at different congregations houses of worship and at Fountain Park And I urge everybody who wishes to participate Consent agenda President kisha Thank You your honor. I move to accept and file all reports of officers accept and adopt all reports of committees and Pass all resolutions and ordinances We have a motion. Do we have a second second? We have a motion in a second under discussion Alderman firstie. Thank you your honor. I'd like to remove 36 our own number of fifty five twenty six oh nine ten the Two separate vote and separate discussion Okay, three dash six an RP by public protection and safety recommending filing various Departmental monthly reports you want to pull that for a separate vote? Okay, do we have a Second okay, we have a motion in a second on a separate vote on three six That will be pulled for a separate vote so on the consent agenda We will first take three one through three five and three seven through three 21 under discussion on everything but three six There is no discussion roll call, please Hi powers. Hi Decker. Hi Gisha. Hi Hammond. Hi, Hannah. Hi Item and hi hot. Hi Montemay or hi ratki. Hi Rindflash. Hi Vanderweel. Hi versi. Hi Wongamon. Hi and born 15 eyes motion carries and now three dash six under discussion Alderman versi Hopefully this can be cleared up a little bit easier, but it's just actually a question for the fire chief on the Last quarterly quality assurance and quality improvement report that he submitted to ppns on Wednesday night You would like the fire chief to come forward. I take it. Yeah, I believe so if you can be cleared up real quick That's it was just on a response time issue that was Yeah, yep And actually you got this corresponding paperwork is three dash 54. I submitted on Friday Hopefully you can just be cleared up real quick Okay, so we are referring to which our number our own number on here It would be our oh 5209 10 dash 10 Okay, 520609 dash 10 by the fire chief submitting the fire department's first quarter 2010 EMS quality assurance and quality improvement report for January 1st 2010 through March 21st 2010 correct Alderman Versi hopefully it's a simple question here Just kind of going through the report. I was reading through and seen a response times meeting the 90% yet You know five minutes or better and that also includes non-emergent requests Delayed responses due to weather And also on the back where you have documented on calls over six minutes You have 20 calls. I went and had For everyone printed out the one police department the first question actually goes where do you guys get? response times from to create this report that you have on the back on your response times Where do you create where do you generate those numbers from? Okay, and that's where I got this report that I have on here is the ambulance response times listing and It's on the back of this document and I just was going through just trying to see where the same numbers came from You have I you have them documented on here the 20 calls that were over six minutes Non-emergency requests is pretty easy there going through I actually ended up counting 63 calls over six minutes And 32 of which were over 10 minutes. I spoke with some dispatchers just to make sure it's not error Is there an easy explanation to why there's such a huge discrepancy Then what the police department has okay, and that's that's that's simple of an explanation on some of the detailed requests to response times Some of the important calls. I mean if you go through and actually the very first page I'm just documentation on seeing those responses with when you do the itemized and actually the incidental detail print I mean some of them they have little notes gentlemen line in the driveway from his head You know as a 19 minute response time I Counted through and just the ones that are printed out are over 10 minutes How does it correlate with the 20 calls over six minutes? But our numbers are accurate off awards and once again how it's documented at dispatch The computer there are errors sure alderman versey. Are you familiar with the words report? Yes? I am I talked to talk Stephanie about But 43 I mean I was gonna give it Enough for a human error and report error, but 43 calls is kind of a huge discrepancy Is there a way we can pinpoint that a little bit better between the two reports to get more of an accurate number? I'd have to come through with deputy chief butler. He really does the analysis of our okay, but yeah, there is a way Okay, we were able to get more in-depth report calls To us I think the chief answered the question. I said he would look into that okay President Gisha, would you like to speak? Thank you all very appropriate questions and all perhaps could have been Answered prior to having a department head come up without the knowledge of this data given this report prior or even a phone call to him Certainly not inappropriate questions if you can't get answers from a department head But to have a it's unfair to have any department head come up without giving them the data And then peppering up with questions and stuff they don't have in front of them so a I just think taking the The appropriate step and courtesy of having a discussion with the chief would have been it would have probably helped the situation Thank You President Gisha if I can just have a bit of input here I know that This is a new council Normally which I've said in in prior council meetings This should be discussed at the committee level and not when it comes into the consent agenda in the council It should be discussed at the committee level won the report now I understand Alderman versey that you are new to the council and We're probably not present at this particular ppns meeting You were but I was last-minute information All right, well it you know in the future we should keep this type of discussion at committee level sure and not when it comes in on Consent agenda Do you have any other discussion? There is no other discussion on Passing three dash six on the consent agenda Alderman Rindfleisch. Did you have no? I just moved that the report committee be accepted adopted Okay I have a motion to second that the report of committee be accepted and adopted under the consent agenda If there is no further discussion roll call, please No, excuse me I Did you say no? Yeah, okay? No, okay, Decker. Hi, Gisha. Hi Hammond hi, Hannah. Hi. Hi to men. Hi, cut. Hi Montemay or hi Radke hi Rindfleisch. Hi Vanderwheel. Hi versey. No one come in. No, Lauren. Hi and bulk. Hi 12 eyes three nose motion carries communications and petitions three dash 22 to be referred reports of officers to Three dash 23 through three dash 39 to be referred Resolutions introduce three three dash 40 by alderman borne authorizing Advertising for bids for the 2010 Portland cement concrete sidewalk program alderman borne Thank You, Mayor Ryan. I move that the resolution to be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion President Gisha a silly question Portland cement program is there a difference between Portland cement and regular cement? It's a it's a rookie question. It doesn't know anything about construction Do you have curious Bill Bittner in the house tonight? You know anything about Portland cement bill? I think he does Sorry bill. It's that means it's imported from Portland Portland cement is the common name for what we use to make concrete Smet could be any kind of glue Portland really says it's it's this material used in concrete. Cool Any other questions about Portland cement Okay, if there are none All in favor say aye opposed Motion carries Three dash 41 by alderman borne authorizing the appropriate city officials to graciously accept an offer from the bikes belong Foundation to pay for all expenses for one representative from the city while attending a bicycling infrastructure best practices in Boulder, Colorado from June 9th through the 11th 2010 alderman borne Thank You, Mayor Ryan. I move that the resolution to be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second under discussion Under discussion, I thought that this was going to be a trip for the new chairman of public works I thought it was going to be a trip for the mayor, but that didn't happen either a bicycle for two Alderman Hannah, yes, thank you. It's a long tradition that the mayor goes on these It was last fall at least and it was well worthwhile. Thank you No, I don't know who is going from the city our city engineer Ryan sasma Ryan sasma lucky guy And it actually is a great program I had the opportunity to go to Holland last year Holland northern Germany with the same group great group and Great for the future of non-motorized transportation in our county Okay, if there is no further discussion roll call, please Decker hi Gisha. Hi Hammond. Hi Anna. Hi. Hi to men. Hi. Hi Montemay or hi I Rattee. Hi Rinfleshe. Hi Vanderweel. Hi, Versi. Hi Longamon. Hi Warren. Hi Falk. Hi and Bowers. Hi 15 eyes motion carries 3-42 by Alderman Gisha authorizing retaining outside legal counsel to represent the city in the matter of Margaret M Marama et al against the city and authorizing payment for said services President Kisha your honor I'm asking for suspension of the rules be happy to supply an explanation We have a second on suspending the rules second motion the second explanation, please Explanations this suit's been hanging around for quite some time and now if they've now filed actually they filed an intent earlier now They actually have Filed the actual movement of the suit So it's important for us to get on this within a timely manner based on the statute Okay, we have an explanation. Is there anybody opposed to suspending the rules? If there is none rules are suspended President Gisha, thank you your honor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Second second we have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion If there is none roll call, please Decker. Hi Gisha. Hi Hammond. Hi Anna. Hi Heidemann hi, hi Montemay or hi Radke. Hi Rindflash. Hi Vanderweel. Hi, Versi. Hi Longamon. Hi Warren. Hi Bulk. Hi and Bowers. Hi 15 eyes Motion carries 3-43 and 44 to be referred report of committee 6 3-45 by public protection and safety recommending filing documents submitting a report related to the purchase and Installation of a replacement city county shared computer aid dispatch records management system also known as CAD RMS for emergency responders All their person Montemay are thank you. Mr. Mayor. May we also take agenda item 346 with that? Yes 346 report of committee 8 which is the authorizing the Into appropriate city officials to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with Sheboygan County for the joint purchase of the system. I Move that the RC be accepted and adopted and the resolution be put upon its passage We have a motion to accept and adopt and to put the resolution upon its passage Also 3-45 would be accepted and filed In the same motion We have a motion in a second under discussion Alderman Boren Thank You. Mayor Ryan. I believe our contribution is 200,000 or 250,000 and then I I understand that there's another $700,000 in expenses And I was just happened to read this article in the paper about the $700,000 Has that been resolved on how that additional 700,000 is going to be taken care of? President Gisha can answer that question. Thank you Thank You your honor and Alderman Boren the The plan changed slightly first of all in our capital improvement budget of 2009. We set aside $250,000 In bonding which we did not bond for because it all wasn't put together yet The whole global meaning every county every fire service every emergency dispatch and everything the whole county Comes with a price tag of about $1.2 million the The vendor wants X amount of dollars up front and the rest is kind of at this point looks like Extremely attractive terms where we wouldn't give them all the money up front Because of the terms it's zero percent interest. You don't get much less than zero unless they're going to pay us to do it the part that's Still so we might not even need to use that 250,000 previously the part that is still under discussion and I had discussions with with county board chairman van der steen and County administrator pain on Tuesday of last week and that's to come up with a percentage breakdown to what our Percent would be of those funds or the annual payment whichever way it goes and what the other county and outlying areas They're acting as agent for all these outlying areas We made some progress, but that would be brought to the council for the council's voice and An approval of that but progress has been made the discussions have already been going on based on a previous resolution We really didn't need this To come through that the authorization to negotiate was already there So the big global price tag is 1.2 million what our percentage will be is what we're negotiating now And the system will not be purchased until the inner government Intergovernmental agreement is hammered out correct Answer your question if I if I could just follow up the board Allerman Gisha, then we should feel comfortable tonight at least passing this But as you said before it's before it's purchased we're we're gonna be able to determine what our what our cost actually is Absolutely. Okay. Thank you Any further discussion if there is no roll call, please I Motion carries Other matters authorized by law Attorney McLean Okay, well, I will I will go through these then other other matters authorized by law Three dash forty seven will be referred to public protection and safety Three dash forty eight to public protection and safety Three dash forty nine to the special committee on risk management Three dash fifty will be referred to public works And now attorney McLean the other other matters Thank you, your honor three dash fifty one is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2011 and June 30 2012 that will be referred to law and licensing 352 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2011 That will be referred to law and licensing 353 is an arrow by the finance director treasurer submitting the Schmogen fire department ambulance service Alternative scenarios and benchmarking analysis That will be referred to strategic fiscal planning committee and all of you alderman should have received that on your desk this evening 354 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting incident detail prints sheboygan police department and summary of ambulance response time So the period one one ten through three thirty one ten submitted by Alder person Bursi That will be all president Kisha Thank You your honor based on the discussion we had tonight I'd like this instead of referred to committee the whole Referred to the public protection and safety where they can have the appropriate discussion and then therefore determined by the committee structure Which is normal procedure as to whether it should come back to committee the whole so we have this was originally Requested to be sent to the committee of the whole by alderman versi We have a motion instead to send it to the public protection and safety committee which I've got We have a second on that You need to take a vote on that Okay, all in favor of sending it to public protection and safety say aye opposed To PPNS it goes 355 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting communication from Mike Trimberger of Sheridan elementary school Requesting that they'd be allowed to use one of the city's free days at Blue Harbor resort for an educational conference for parents on May 27 2010 that will be referred to finance 356 is a resolution to authorize the transfer of appropriations in the 2010 budget that will be referred to finance 357 is a resolution authorizing entering into an agreement for human resource and labor relations consulting services with HR unlimited LLC That would be be referred to salary and grievances 358 is a resolution to authorize the transfer of appropriations in the 2010 budget That will be referred to finance 359 communication from Emily Pettkis Requesting an encroachment to place decorative landscape brick along the sidewalk in front of her home at 12 13 North 4th Street We'll be referred to city planning 360 is an ordinance granting Emily Pettkis or errors and the signs privilege of encroaching upon described portions of North 4th Street In the city for the purpose of building and maintaining the landscaping We'll also be referred to city planning All motion to adjourn you have a motion to adjourn in a second In a second all in favor say aye Opposed we are adjourned