 61 it is. So let's roll into it. Welcome to Vlog Thursday, not episode 69, episode 61. We're getting there though. We're so close. We're gonna do some type of celebratory thing for episode 69 because we'll have 69 episodes and then we're childish. That combination of things. Now we will introduce ourselves and I am Tom Lawrence. This is Daniel Dugan and I'm Marv Anderson. Yes, because we got called out on this the fact that people who didn't watch episode one and then we started not saying the names and I'm like, I know better and Marvin went to like a film school thing. Yeah, he's supposedly no better. But I spent so much time making sure that the shot is set up correctly. Yes, that's always the you think we could just put something in place then everything gets moved and then Marvin's like clockwise, no the other way. The other clockwise. Well, we've also said like when we're setting up like every every show we're like oh we should put tape down for where the camera should be and we're like yeah, it's a great idea. That is a great idea. We never do it. And then we just then it's just every time it's the same thing. We are so full of great ideas that are executed. You could probably make money if you followed us around and got great ideas. Just implement all the things we talk about doing. Oh and I'll start out with my uh so I just became a discussion but right away I posted it on uh Facebook which got real popular and it didn't get popular on Twitter. It says I want to have Twitter followers. You have to have Twitter followers or bots retweeting it to make it really popular. But um no it was someone said they had their bar they went to the bar and he got on the Wi-Fi and they said hey what's your Wi-Fi password and it says you have to order a drink. The guy orders a drink and he asked the same question again to the bartender what's the Wi-Fi password? You have to order a drink all over the case. And I'm like oh that is great. So I posted rush for institutions, you have to order an appetizer that would be the same thing. It's a great way. It's like a great marketing tip. Really is. I like that. I think it's a great idea. You have to order an appetizer. We should do that here if people stop and like hey what's your Wi-Fi? We can be like you have to buy a laptop. We have a semi-public Wi-Fi that we have customers connect to and we always it's always a joke because we password does rotate and it's always something funny like what Wi-Fi was it for a long time? It's really long. It's really long. Then the next one was it was twice as long as that and twice as long as what? Yeah exactly. Did we have it as no you can't for when people are like hey can I have your Wi-Fi? Yeah no you can't was one of our passwords for a while. No you can't. No all lowercase is the delimiter right and they're like oh I get it now. Oh we should have one that should yeah that's just all lowercase. Yeah all lowercase all lowercase. All lowercase. That's a great one. You're welcome. Yes so we'll help find your Wi-Fi password for you. That's this is great. A couple of business things and we're gonna talk about Dan and what he does and why he's here. There's a whole there's all of that fun stuff. A few business things is we landed the big bid we were working on. So you sure did. The Joe's hamburger episode was about what three or four episodes ago so been a month ago. Yeah yeah at least. People always ask where we get clients and like a few we did a couple process videos where we show some wiring job cleanups and of course the question a lot of people starting out in business is how do I get customers. I don't know. Right we're still working on that after 15 years in business. There's not any one way. There's not a magic switch. There's not a company I call. Give me some more customers I need some work. It doesn't ever work quite as simple as that. So it's like the entire gamut of marketing which you have a background and like a lot of experiencing helping creating these. You know and I just like the buzzword terms of sales funnel but that's essentially what you're creating is all these different things and bringing customers to you and we had talked about the Chamber of Commerce to me and Marvin actually did part of the vlog Thursday from the Chamber of Commerce event where we went and shook hands and met people. Marv sing and dance for people. I'm a whole song dance I do. He has an entire shtick because we do at Chamber of Commerce has things like selling the raffle tickets and stuff like that. Marvin always jumps into that because that's everyone knows Marvin at the Chamber of Events. For better or worse. Yes. You guys do a lot of amazing work there right so that has been you're the president aren't you? Well I am on the board of directors. So I have also not just gone to Chamber of Events I have now come all the way full circle and become on the board board members so I help with decisions and we vote yay or nay and things and talk about finances and you now tackle the boring terrible part. Yeah let's just say the events are fun we want to keep them fun but there are some functional things that have to occur or the events will not occur but participating in all those things from B&I to Chamber networking events and just all those things those are all ways we get clients. There's not like any one secret method sometimes people call us from website or this is a lesson on why you should always stop it and say hi to people you may perceive as your competitor. One of our competitors potential I'm not gonna say any names because it's not final but I knew the guy was getting closer to retire and his son does not want the business and he would like to give us all his customers. Right that's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. He says you know what you guys are always been honest we and him have had a long time for a number of years back and forth relationship talking and keeping in touch with him he just called the other day says I'm gonna cut to the chase I'm taking a corporate job with an excellent retirement package and I'm gonna you're the only person I trust to take on my IT clients that I've had for years so I'm like oh okay that's wonderful and the nice thing is because he does really nice work we're not taking over disaster clients like we usually do. Disaster is why you take over IT the other guy screwed up now we're calling you it's all on fire can how quick can you put it out like that's our giant general client acquisition is they're looking for an IT company because other IT companies screwed up royally and uh this is actually going to be the handoff of well documented clients with up-to-date networks and everything's humming along they just need someone to take over sure oh yeah such a rare thing you never take over IT like that it's always well that guy screwed up it's time to call someone speaking of which we got a call I'm still kind of seeing where we're at with this another IT guy I don't know where he's at with it he asked us for perhaps some help 40 servers and 150 workstations all infected with the same virus but no backups oops he texted me and it was on Sunday I get the call and then I texted him back so what's your back situation he says that's why I'm talking to you all right so let's define that so it's a lot of people you don't know how bad their IT guy is until there's an incident they just assume everything's humming along and uh going well so that's our catch up on all the business stuff that's going on that we're feeling talking about dance here hey and I met you at Penguin Con how many years ago now 2016 I showed up with a pile of laptops yes I said I don't know we're building a computer lab yes and Tom's like oh this is awesome I have all these great ideas and I'm like these laptops are you know kind of sad kind of sad um but I have a vision uh what the computer lab could be and Tom's like yes let's do that and I think I taught the first computer lab classes I taught Bashell and something else I'm getting to know Linux getting it was a getting it was an intro to Linux and general command line stuff it was a real intro uh 101 but the class went really well and now a few years later at the big Penguin Con Penguin Con Penguin Con and if you don't know what Penguin Con what's the website for Penguin Con? PenguinCon.org it is an amazing conference uh the hotel the main hotel is sold out am I correct we got three spots left three spots if you're watching this right now get us get a spot at Penguin Con yes and I'll leave links to all this on there so if you happen to be in Detroit area you'd like to travel to the Detroit area Penguin Con is on May 4th through 6th thanks for the cool bro cool bro he's like the first floor I don't know so it's May 4th through 6th um did you do that on purpose for May 4th be with you uh no we so we we have a lot of students that attend we do a lot of work with academics we do a lot of work so we wanted to schedule normally we just drop it right in the middle of spring break and just have people suffer so this year we bumped it a week later um so that we can have you know cryptology and exploring King Tut's tomb sideways and there is no um other conference I've been to and I've been to a lot of conferences that I can say equates to what Penguin Con is it's uh it is a combination of like a sci-fi conference mashed up with some random cosplay happening and lots of open source of Linux talks I I mean Bruce Schneier was a keynote yeah I mean Corey Dockdrow you've had like the biggest names in the tech world uh there along with writers you had uh which is ready player one movie Ernest Cline Ernest Cline love that got to meet Ernest Cline there uh so you have these sci-fi people luminaries in in that realm of fiction writing and things like that then you have Bruce Schneier you know foremost cryptographer speaks before congress you can't get an interview with the guy with somehow Penguin Con got him to come there and do a keynote and you go have a sandwich with him and take a look at him but you can't have a sandwich with him there I wrote an elevator with him I almost wanted to make a Bruce Schneier joke about now the elevator is encrypted but I thought I didn't want to be rude and I just say thank you for your talk and I was just polite to him but yeah a big mistake I know he's a real character yes I I just I was kind of awestruck I'm not someone who gets started truck because I don't assert struck because I don't really have I'm not a fanboy of a lot of things except for like sci-fi things and stuff like that I'm a fanboy of you Tom oh no do you guys need me to step out for a second no I'm a fanboy of you too Marvin so uh Dan when he's not doing the Penguin Con stuff and check out that conference you also currently work for a startup I do so I work for a startup called Genomonon in Ann Arbor I'm a bioinformatician which is a real fancy name for I take medical articles that have critical genes in them and separate them by those genes and assign them to different variants it's it's a pile of work and there's millions of segmented opportunities but the end goal is people that have treatable individual variants of cancer can have individual treatment plans from pathologists and other clinicians so you go in you get your genome sequenced you have these cancer variants you have this treatment you take a pill the rest of your life and your cancer free you don't have that that gap where you yeah we no longer have to use chemo to nuke people's bodies you can get the real specific of it yeah I know years ago I had met a researcher who was kind of working that he said the problem is there's so many variants of things it's not like we have blanket treatments so we we fail at edge cases we're good at general cases as in the US medical system sure because hey this treatment fixes like 80% of the people that's fine the 20% yeah and but we have these new tools that allow us to do it because that was one of the trouble and this goes back almost 20 years ago I met this researcher the data was too hard to get sure because he's one doctor who understood this by working at several hospitals that he traveled around but trying to get that data across everywhere is hard versus now the internet yeah so you can it's still hard it's still hard so so does your company then you perform the the the testing the genetic testing and everything or so we are just a resource okay there is a so the current kind of golden standard is google scholar where people have just been throwing papers for the last 15 years and we we help delineate and find the best articles that are related to that got it so information overload is a real problem because you look at for any any given category of things now we've gathered and have access to this much information but I still need the specifics on it because there's you know everything to throw it against the wall method it's all in a wall now I curate information yeah you guys are kind of curating it so the doctor if a doctor has a patient that has had their their genome sequenced and knows their predispositions yes okay got you so as opposed to 10,000 results delivered in you know yeah two and a half seconds right we provide five specific results all the other details we have some really nice charts and graphs to demonstrate yeah where the value is and how quickly we can get that turned over because we're talking about you know hours and minutes and seconds counting yeah especially as the tertiary market for genomic analysis picks up as more people have sequenced more people kind of come out of labs we want to be able to get that turned over quickly yeah that's really neat I did not understand what you did until now like I knew you I seen okay because you post on Facebook that you work somewhere but I mean that doesn't really give that's a really cool I'm fascinated with that if there's other data we that you could share I'd be more than happy to because you're an hour yeah yeah I'd more than happy to go out there we could talk more about it you want to come do a review that actually sounds really interesting yeah I am very nerdy this is like this is peaked my interest I see I hope you're not expecting the mission impossible style screen yeah there's a bunch of guys on the laptop I see I see vlog Thursday field trip in our future yeah well we'll field trip there yeah no I like I love when I see innovations like that that are helping greater society and it's kind of an interesting to see that I mean it's really a fascinating we just do it work which I like what I do but sometimes I'm like I want to do something really cool or help out doing something really cool and because I when I meet some of our clients are doing really neat things and that's just fascinating is it um is it just doctors who access it or like if I if I do 23 and me and find out that I'm predisposed to a certain kind of cancer can I you can head over to jenamina really yeah sign up for a free account look up your variants look what's associated with those variants okay so I can go to web md put in my symptoms it will inevitably spit back that I have some kind of cancer and then I can go to jenamina and figure out how I can treat it uh well don't go to web okay but if you um so you get back your sequence and it's flagged for certain variants for genetic dispositions for certain kinds of cancer you can then look at the medical articles of people that have received treatment and okay what the the variety of successful levels have been wow that's that's really awesome that's cool yeah I like this this is a this is a neat thing you've done all kinds of neat stuff too your history is not just not no when I met you you were uh helping make hands for people without hands I still do that you still do that yeah that was yes so I uh like Luke Skywalker hands yes that's awesome well that's how I got into pangal kind of the first place and this was 2015 um a tweet came out from it in the d um hey we need uh 100 3d printed hands and I was uh working with the first robotics team at that time called frog force okay yeah and we had a 3d printer we had some enthusiastic students I'm like let's print these hands yeah and that's a big organization too uh first robotics well we'll know the the hand one now oh enable is yeah 10 000 volunteers spread over like they were getting started a few years later now this big organization now it's this huge grindy sad mess and uh bureaucracy right yeah but still helping people yeah right no yeah I was I had an article written about me uh last month uh at the Ann Arbor I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to throw out a good it's and live yeah they're everywhere um and then we have a a recipient so at penguin when you come to penguin con um we have a person that has a novel control mechanism uh his name is his name is kent um we've been friends from penguin con 2015 too really helped me uh rebuild the robot that shot tribbles into the audience oh yeah uh so we're gonna be demonstrating some brand new novel control mechanisms chicken yeah chicken we're still going so yeah that work continues and thank you I'm really happy to do it and it's it's something that's only it's neat it used to be like a huge time sink for me and I used to suffer but now I just do it for fun yeah that's really cool and where else what other conference could you go to where tribbles get thrown at you like no other linux other conference no period period we're the only conference that shoots tribbles out of the robot they have the copyright on it yes we have copyright and shooting tribbles that's great that's awesome what we're gonna wrap up vlog Thursday um because the chicken's ding and we're the other reason that Dan's here uh is because he's got a bunch of laptops and lauren systems is going to be fixing up a bunch of laptops for the computer lab so we kind of talked about but that's it yeah penguin con so that's why he brought all of them here today and I said bring on thursday and come on record and we'll talk about it um and I should probably promote penguin con earlier than now but it's still you still got a month and a half so you have saved penguin con a few times tom I want to thank you so much and I'm sure you guys will be talking about penguin con over the next few weeks yes we will does episode 69 end up right before penguin con it's oh my oh you know what I think it'll be pretty close if we're we're gonna wow you may have to push a couple double episodes to get that all right so we this week is one right two three four five six seven this is important eight it will be six episode 69 will be the week after the penguin con review will be the first thing we can't review the penguin con review will be anything 69 because we'll do a review um I will also throw I put together that video a while ago and I think it kind of captures a little bit of the my experience of penguin con it's like my little short little two minute uh video of me wandering around there with the camera um there's a lot there's not a ton of video it's it's a hard experience to try to encapsulate because I mean I'm giving a talk I know like two things over there's someone larping I'm giving a talk on fire walls um this year we are so we always record our Sunday morning Linux review so that's more it's going to be recorded there Sunday morning um we are also going to uh what else are we recording there I'm doing the open source talk and then I'll probably jump in on a couple your open source of video editing already has like 30 people interested in it yes yeah I'm excited about that it's actually really I said the good thing is I already gave the takeaway I have a video on it um so one of the things I try to do when I've done any of these talks and this is kind of what led me to doing it on the youtube is I do the talk and then I would just refer people I also have a video on the same topic so people can watch it again and get all the details and the links and things like that all myself's creative commons so I don't care if someone wants to you know keep a copy of the video for themselves whatever um and the same thing with this I there's a video so anything you didn't understand or want some more hands-on approach by their very detailed me showing you how to do it in the video so fun stuff all right well thanks for watching like subscribe all that fun stuff and I'll I'll find the PM kind of video and insert it here and one more and one more time don't forget to check out uh Genomonon yeah if you're like or dot com take what kind dot org genoma that was it that was my confusion look in the description for all the links because I can't spell very well but I can't copy pasta links yeah bye everyone love you