 Should I go? Okay. I have a question for the seed lending folks Can you touch on really briefly on the legal issues associated with it and have you guys? I'm glad you asked because that is a really important thing to go away from this today knowing that in July the department of Agriculture in Pennsylvania Challenged one of the seed libraries in Pennsylvania because there are laws that are developed have been developed to To regulate Commercial seed companies to make sure that what they're developing and making available to the public and to Farmers and everybody who uses seeds To make sure they get a really good product and they get what they are expecting to get But they were applying that to this to the seed library and so Basically the seed library back down So they stopped providing the informal seeds that people were cultivating from their own gardens And they only now off are offering the commercially available seeds As of today, I don't think that I haven't heard of anything in California where that's Has been raised as a legal challenge But seed libraries across the country now are really concerned and are in the organizing phase to be Proactive should other states and their agricultural departments come forward and challenge the Legality of what we're doing informally in our seed lending libraries So pay attention. There are There's a lot of updates that you can you can get on mailing lists. There's a let me just quickly the name of the legal team that is Working on this issue In collaboration with the Richmond Gros Rebecca no more new burn is really involved in this it is Let me just quickly because you can get on their mailing list a Sustainable economies law center is addressing the legal aspect of this so you can sign up to get an update they're recommending that we proactively contact our State agricultural department and just inquire and also to let them know that we want to sustain the purpose and function of our seed lending libraries But this is something just to Stay tuned and and follow and be ready to get involved I have a question for Emily and Rachel about ESL clubs I think Hilda spoke a little bit about this, but do you at your respective programs? group at all into like beginner versus intermediate or advanced levels of English skills We actually do and I forgot to mention this but in the Beginning well, we have one ESL volunteer that is an ESL teacher And so she comes like twice a month and she will We kind of let people self-select so we'll number people into groups when we finally get into our bigger discussion group and she Will just kind of go more into sort of an English class And so we just say if you are new to speaking English Then you can join Pat, but that's basically all we do and she's not there every time So I don't know if it's necessary. I Have a question. Oh actually We don't and and actually I think it sometimes is It would be better if we could our volunteer structure is such that we don't have the capacity to Do a beginning group, but a lot of people do come in and say I'm a total beginner and I say that's great You're in the right place. Go in with everybody else So it The the one that the club we run Turns out to be best for generally people that are have a mid-level that aren't very experienced and are very beginner But we do have people that are beginners that come every week and people that are very experienced that come every week Just sort of feedback on that our very small small small program led by volunteers one of the volunteers is with our literacy program also and she's sort of Directing those that she feels are ready to graduate to project read the literacy program Or a community learning center, but they can still keep coming for the food. I have a question for I believe it's Cheryl You said that you do email blasts. Do you have a System that you're using for doing so. No, it's a system of just email So well, thank you for asking what I do is I collect the emails from story time So, you know how you have your traditional story time in your library All I do is I just pass around a clipboard have people write their emails. I put it in Email contact list I email blast them maybe like once or twice a month sharing shaking your head because I know she has a huge List herself at Mountain View. So I Yeah, just email blasts, but the best thing to do is the parenting clubs Maybe in your area you guys have parenting clubs that are available They have like groups and they eat you send out one email and it blasts like 1300 or 3000 people at a time So those parenting clubs are very important and again It's just one email and you capture practically thousands of people in two minutes Thank you Question for ESL. Did you have to do any marketing to get people to come in or was it just all? word of mouth But we word of mouth is the most important Way it gets around we put flyers out We sent it to our adult school and we've had flyers like in the corner store and in a few places But pretty much that's all we did Same I mean we we do have a monthly calendar and we I mean advertised that way, but yeah pretty much word of mouth Okay, so I have a question for Paul and Michelle about the bike programs Did you get any negative pushback on those or resistance to try something so new and different? Trying to think I Don't know if a lot of people wanted to do it but there were definitely people in the system who were avid cyclists and I Easily had over 10 staff who said hey, I want to help you with this in any way possible I probably didn't get a lot of I didn't ask for any funding I did request, you know staff get paid for their time and I think everyone got paid I wouldn't say it was a huge like yes, let's do this our communication strategist even Brewster He championed it from the beginning and he's in our administration so that helped that he really liked the idea We'll see about this next year I have a question here Oh, yeah, let me respond real quick. So no You know at our library You know, we're we're we're giving a lot of leeway and if I can prove that it's gonna connect with the community in any way Usually I get to go ahead from the director and from the city. So that's how it works. I Have a question for the pop-up library folks. Nicole you mentioned I think Daniel asked about the connection to anarchist politics and the tradition very egalitarian tradition and that differs a lot from our circulation practices at our libraries, which is very punitive based Is there anything we can learn from? Pop-up libraries in the practice of giving away books and not expecting the same kind of relationship with our users Is there anything we can integrate into our practices? In circulation at our libraries The first thing I think of is just the incredible importance of books in the home for children and what a huge difference home libraries make for kids Not just that children visit the library have cards have access to library books But that they have books in the home It makes a huge difference. So I see and Incredible that as an incredible argument for giving away books not really caring if they come back Yeah, so and the the focus of the big with little libraries is completely on on books for kids So that's kind of where I see that There's one over here Bill this is for Jen Laredo I didn't get to ask the question but so you know if the program was to help sort of raise teen Good-feeling toward adults that there were adults out there in the community that care about them How is that affecting the teens? I mean, what have you seen that you can tell us about about the success in Doing that very thing for teens Awesome question. Thank you If you've worked with teens, you know that sometimes getting feedback from them is complicated, right? And I have to say that I consider their Willingness to participate in the program to be the biggest endorsement, right? That they're willing to take a book to a teacher and then pose for a photo with the teacher or Willing to take a book to their drama teacher and then have the whole class participate in doing this kind of photo shoot They're continually excited to suggest new Nominations for new readers and I think to me that's the biggest indicator Yeah, haven't had anyone come to me and say oh it makes me feel so good that so-and-so read such-and-such and obviously that would be awesome But I don't think that's a I don't know many teens who are like that You know, I've gotten a few really oh really mr. Burns is gonna read Twilight. That's awesome But you know, I they're not kind of responding to it in the level of like oh and that makes me feel valued But I have to trust that that's happening deep in their hearts. Yeah That you've got you feel like you yeah, okay This question is for Diane About sound swell How do the musicians get paid for their work? I'm not sure I understand How they what their incentive is? besides publicity obviously Well the library pays If it is an EP we take a minimum of four songs it must be commercially produced meaning you know they They didn't just Record it with any equipment and burn it to desk Fort it four to five songs we give them $50 Six to eight songs $75 and then we consider a full LP to be nine songs or more and we pay a hundred dollars and that's for two years So members of the community can download it And after they filled out the license agreement and signed it and submitted their work they After four to six weeks they get a check from the city of Santa Cruz And you know I have a budget line for for sound swell that it comes out of Does that answer That's enough for them. Obviously you have people who are interested in doing it because it's publicity and It doesn't sound like a lot of money to me for a musician, but it must be enough Because you're getting people interested into it. I think it's a great idea Actually different musicians have different reasons for doing it some of the musicians just love music and want to get their music out there and some of the musicians aren't even Working musicians for money the musician part of their life is just something they do for fun There's people a lot of these people are willing to donate it and I make them take the money Other people really do look at it as just another way to get their music out into the community and to be more well known and Any avenue works? You know some musicians are really poor and that hundred bucks, you know might go a long way to help them produce their next album or Yeah, so And then and then some people are just like I said before really The historical archive aspect of it is what kind of draws them in just to be a part of that historical record So, you know, that's another big piece Diane My questions for Diane Is there an effort to try to Capture some of the bands that came before 2012 and 13 like world entertainment war well-known bands from Santa Cruz There isn't a Concerted effort to do that yet when I bump into individuals that have connections I try to massage those relationships to get to get that kind of You know connections so that we could even just talk about it But right now, I think we're still kind of in the in the court collection building phase With the current, you know, I don't think I think that we've maybe got about a quarter of the local music Seen to actually, you know respond and submit their music Thank you. 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