 and welcome back to physical therapy for a better life. I'm your host, Christine Linders, physical therapist and board certified orthopedic clinical specialist. Today's show is gonna blow your mind. We're gonna talk about the mysterious and crazy world of fascia that's under our skin. It's a huge part of every part of our body and our body system. And I've got the expert, the gifted man to guide us on that journey. I'm gonna introduce you to someone who has helped myself, my body, my mom, my colleagues, my patients. And that is Jordan Coleman. He is an NASM certified personal trainer and fascia, myofascia equalizing specialist. Jordan, thank you so much for making time to come onto this show. My pleasure, it's about time. It's about time is right. I want, I highlighted how you helped me transform my body. I said that before, transform my body, how I feel, how I move, how I'm thinking. And I want you to tell everybody, cause I know they want to know, how did you get started in what you do right now? So I'd say, I don't know, 10 years ago, I met Anthony Crisco. So he calls himself the equalizer, or the fascinator, right? So I met him and he was talking to me and one of my friends, and I wasn't paying attention to him. Then as a basketball trainer, I wanted to work in gyms. So you have to become certified. So I became a certified personal trainer and worked in 24 fitness and used their gyms to create a basketball program, which was blah, blah, blah. So anyway, after I did that, I went to Island Club and Spa, then I went to the country club and I was teaching classes and I was barely learning anything. So then I started making rollers myself because I started sending people to them. So I started using them and I was rolling them. I was trying to make them stick the glue, stick blah, blah, blah. And so after that, I felt my hamstring drop. For the first time I felt, fresh up actually really do a really amazing job to me just from rolling over and over. And making like 20 rollers, I'm rolling on them to try to get them stick. So that caused my hamstrings to drop. I realized I was not doing it enough. So once I did that, I lived at this place in New Orleans at like 70 stairs. So every day you gotta go up at least once or twice, right? So one day I was in the middle of the stairs and my muse bothered me, so I put my hands on it and I just held it for a second to see what was wrong. You know, I can feel flaking or blah, blah, blah. You know, the stuff that really threw me off and it just went and back to where it came from. So I walked up the stairs, I came back down and it was gone completely. So that night I worked on everything that I had that was issue and you know, slowly they started to change and then they started to change more and then more. And then I started to realize I can actually run more. I can jump, I can jump. I can even jump because of deflections of playing over scenes for playing basketball overseas. You get entered, you're pretty much on your own a lot of the time. So you deal with your own injuries. So once I discovered that I had some gift of some sort, I had no idea what it was. And I went to my daughter's school the next day and her principal's back was boiling. So I said, hmm, I discovered something last night. And she goes, huh? Yeah, last night. And I just touched her back at her sacrum and her lower back and it just boom, gone. And she started crying and started up because the moment was so big for me that I realized that somebody's giving me a gift and I don't know why. So now I've been put right into what I do. So people rolling, you can do what I do. It just takes you a lot longer because fast itself is just water. It's 80% water. And as of 2012, the largest system in your body, they thought it was just an organ. So this is American Medical Association, 2012. So that's 10 years. And research, you can ask, I mean, it's sad but you can ask it about anybody who doesn't deal with high level fascia, about fascia as a doctor or someone in the practitioner, they have no clue. And I didn't either. And now I'm just frightening how amazing this lost tissue is. And most people even know why. They go, why would there be a tissue there? Why would there be something there that I don't know it's there and no one's told me about it? Because I used to throw it away. I used to put it in a bucket and the researchers used to take pride in taking it all out and putting it in a bucket. In fact, I'm gonna go to my boss and tell him make sure I did it all, all gone. And it's 80% water and shrubbery. 100 and so years of fascia research never, never touched it. Could average, so put the organs back in so I can see where they belong and leave this alone. So now every university in the world is doing research on fascia because they understand it. We miss something. But what you have, like you said, this gift is definitely something that every single person that I have sent to go see Jordan, my mom was like amazed. My colleagues, my patients, they all say the same thing. They're like, wow, he has gift. And I'm so glad that you have found this gift for anybody that has pain. The link, the link to equalize your body. I always say like, unwind my body. Like you touch yourself and you, there's videos and I wanna tell everybody today, I did forget to upload all these before and after shots of Jordan working and I will put them in my show at the beginning of my show in two weeks so you can see what it's like with the body when Jordan puts his hands on you. But it is miraculous what happens. I watched the video of my friend Ryan who plays beach volleyball. You touched his body and you could see it moving and he bent over and said, wow, my back pain's gone. It's amazing that the equalizer thing or the resetting or whatever that you do, but when you get, like when someone comes to see you and you don't even need to know what hurts on them, I can tell everybody that because I didn't say a word and I don't have to. You don't have to know, but what do you, what would they expect it to visit from you? Like what are you doing when you put your hands on their body? Like what is the equalizing or these loops sense? I'm feeling how uneven you are. So your body has its own circumference in every space and we're built on tendons and stabilizing tendons. So when somebody gets hurt, most of the people, they go straight to the pain. That's your weak spot. So I'm feeling where that circulation of pressure is coming from weak left to right and it tells you, I learned that I can touch two parts of the body together, whether it be knee, head, and now I know that I can touch your foot in your head and I can change the circulation process just from touching those two points. Before I thought it had to be real close. Like a hand or a knee or something close to the, but you don't have to have that closeness. It's an energy that goes through the person and every time people come to me, they go, how are you today? And I say every day, how can you not be? I grow up, I wake up every morning with something new being given to me on how the body's path is working. I used to use fascia just to manipulate and go, wow, it's amazing. And now I try to follow the direction it's telling me to go. Instead of actually just manipulating it, I'm trying to feel what's uneven and how to change that back and what the structure is. The structure is the key to fascia. You learn the structure, you can change something. You have no structure, you can roll the hell out of yourself and it's not gonna make a difference because you're in the long space. You need to roll the entire system, period. Every time. And if you miss a space, it'll still reward that space with extra more circulation because that's what fascia does. It increases the amount of hyaluronic acid you're producing and it breaks down excess collagen which breaks down all of our free radicals, breaks down all of our crystallized circulation and especially microvascular circulation. And we ignore so many parts of our body because we think it's one part. We do. And I have no idea why I was given this gift. But every day, someone comes to me and people cry at me all the time. I believe it, yeah. All the time because they think what's happened to them is never gonna change. And they're at the last level of their space they think it's never gonna change. So that in itself is just enlightening every day to know that one iota of information can take their life. It's amazing and you know the one iota of information that I always hear from you and I link it to a different phrase that I use is you said, you know what? As long as you put it back, you're hunching all day, you're working this way, you're working out here, I'm working on patience. As long as you put it back, you restore the fascia but then we don't put it back. We go and we sit on our sofa and we look at our phones and we type on our laptop and we relax in a slouch position. We don't put our body, we don't put our fascia back after it. Unless, so tell us how, unless what? Unless it hurts, unless it's pain. People don't get up and stretch out of a chair unless they have pain. Otherwise they're just gonna go and that in itself is what holds us. We have a time frame. So fascia is gonna let you do something that you used to do and haven't earned physically 40 times today and you did it 80. So I'm gonna punish you for that. I'm gonna give you a little indicator of pain and weak more all our instincts. So I'm getting more of that instinct. I'm gonna go off. Okay, it feels a little bit better. And you actually in that movement you slightly reset your fascia but you didn't reset it fully because it has to have full length. You're at 50% slide when you need to be at 75%. So every time you do that, you're pulling to the side that's letting you slide the most. The weakest position is taking it and it's pulling it harder. And then it's pulling two joints together. They're never supposed to touch. Soft tissue floats the bones. And once they do, they'll wrap the bone and they'll change the structural balance of it. So it doesn't sit like this anymore. Now it's gonna sit like this because that fascia is pulling it that direction. And once it does that, you're in it in a shift. And that shift, oh, it's just my hip. No, it's not. They're gonna give you hip surgery. I guarantee it. They're gonna have to do surgery on one of your hips because out of place and especially stuff. But in reality, that part needs to go backward came from loosen up so it can slide. And then you slide, you get your gasoline and you get your nutrient exchange. No nutrient exchange, if I'm never sliding, it's constantly dying. And all the lymphatics connected to it are also dying. They're getting slower and slower. And then your sensory nervous system is sending you slower information because it's coming back slow. You turn the rivers off, your foot's on that side. It has to turn that river. Now your foot's off and then you think it's your foot pain when in reality your hip is causing you to have slow circulation because I'm squeezing it. So in the process, those rings, that's what I'm feeling. The main space and how it's off left to right. And most people don't even know. We have no consciousness of how we look. We don't even look at the mirror at our bodies at all. We just look at our face and okay, and I'm the workout today and I'm out. I'm not realizing that your body is starting to giving you signals. Darkling in your stomach, chest pain. Headache, neck pain. Especially neck pain because that's our arms. We use that more than anything. We're using it now. That in itself is pulling on your neck because it's a ring to your system that holds under these two rings. And they're just tendons with stabilizers that have pulled and turned. And once they do, I can make any shape I want and the structure is gonna take the path of these resistance. That's why you see people never walking straight. No one walks in conscious posture. No one. Yeah, conscious posture. Tell us, what does that mean? It means there's like a military in the military. They make them stand in attention. That's conscious posture. But unconscious posture is 90% of our life. In fact, I can say 94% of our life, even more because we are, I'm like this now. When in reality, you're supposed to be here. Your body's remembering that. You're teaching it that that's the way that I wanna be. And it'll take the path. So what we do is fashion is the best that's taken past for you. And you change that path, it'll change for you because fashion replicates itself in different directions because all the dimensional shapes in our body designed like everything in the world. Our bodies are designed the exact same way. Amazing bridge that adapts to your movement. Adapts to our movement. I want everybody to hear that point right now. It adapts to your movement. You screw up. Yeah, you're hunching. You're driving forward. You're constantly like- Using one leg all the time to drive. Totally. Sitting with your leg crossed all the time. Like it is adapting to your movement and that's the consciousness of your posture, right? And everybody needs to think about that. And you know what, the old, I don't know who came up with it. It's been since I've been a PT. The motion is a lotion. It probably was from a patient, right? Movement is medicine. Motion is lotion. Like our fascia needs to- Don't move when you lose it. Yeah, like you said, you move and you kind of reset yourself in a little bit, but not fully. That's right. You need to move. We need to exercise to- Exactly. Right? And so I, as we're talking about this patterning and pastures and how we hold ourselves and we're improving the consciousness of everyone watching this today, exercise, we need to exercise, we need to move. Now, I want to ask you too because I know people want to know and I've seen you show like my mom a stretch on the wall, like kind of things and to move the fascia. And I have the awesome roller that you made, but like what can people do? Like people are sitting watching this right now. And so they're hunching, they're sitting up straight. They might have their weight on one butt cheek. They might be twisting because they were like, the space isn't able to keep, you know? What can they do like right now to help reset their fascia? Is there- You put yourself like right now. I have like this, this is behind my back. Oh. I have it turned this way and I take it on the airplane too. So like because there is nothing- When it's rolling then. Right, so you want to take that and put it behind your back this way too because now I'm sitting on it and it's on my spine. Yeah. So now it's controlling me. So now after about 15 to 20 minutes of doing that, which you shouldn't do it more than three minutes or four minutes to hold yourself in the space because it's gonna, your body is gonna start dropping circulation because you're sitting on a hose. But you want that to happen because that's breaking up fascia. It's stopping, it's pressing into the visceral area of your body and breaking up the space around the bones because that's what's twisting. Once that releases, it gives you space. Once you get space, you only need a dynamic fraction of space to actually give you movement that relieves your pain and turns off your inhibitors. The biggest thing about fascia is putting it, when you say putting it back, it's one thing to put it back. It's another thing to earn it. People, when you say exercise, people don't earn their gains like tennis or hiking. People think hiking is exercise. It is not, it's kicking your butt in what's happening to you as you're actually ossifying yourself because you didn't earn the hike. You don't exercise every day. I hike once every two weeks or I hike something that's really hard and now it's heavy and that's a power movement and you didn't warm up, you didn't cool down. All those things, your body makes you pay for them. If you do them, it gives you a boost up. You go two days forward and one day back. Otherwise you're going three days backwards and two days forward. You just think you're improving. You look tight, I look strong, but you're not. Your body's getting tighter and it's like fishnet stockings on somebody with really big legs. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's just pushing through the space. It's forcing, so your tendons are the net and it's holding you so tight that you can't slide. So that once those tendons are released, the body goes back to its space. But until they are, they're pulling you so hard and every time you do an exercise that you didn't earn and you're at 40 and you went to 80 and to 120, it's going to point you to that side. It's going to hold you tight until you manually or physically remove that space and put it back where it came from. You'd have to earn it. And it's only an hour a week. You go, oh, I earned it, what do you mean? Earn it, it's an hour a week. You need an hour of cardiovascular exercise per week. People can get to four days a week, it's a week. That's 16 minutes of exercise that raises your heart rate so that you can actually release nobile fluid and once your heart rate's released, the body's going to release some chemicals that actually breaks down your sticky fashion. But that's 20 minutes, three times a week. You can break it up, make it 10 or whatever. 10 minutes to 10 minutes, six days a week, right? That's right and it's no, you have no choice. Yeah. There is no choice in the matter. You, there's people who get old and they're like a hundred. They're like, wow, it looks so long, but I didn't do anything. I sat there the whole damn time. I made it to a hundred, but I didn't really get any movement. You can make it further than that because your body is designed to reset itself. That is our protection in the world. We would really suck if you couldn't reset yourselves. That's sad because that's our protection. All you do is look at nature. All creatures have protection for themselves. That's ours. Our ability to have a mind to reset yourself. To reset yourself. I know I want to reset myself right now and I've been resetting myself and working really hard on it. And I am. That's the base. That becomes the base. That's the base. We'll have to roll so the roller sits in the corner and they go, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to do this. And they're so simple. Does it's movements or so? Well, they're simple for me at this point. Most people, when I tell them something and they get a miracle, like I could before, I can only move to here. And then I can go like this and wave my arm. But when I go home, I'm just going to try to make sure I don't use it. That's the exact opposite you want to do. Yeah. Because it sticks to fashion. And once it does, it locks the joint. And once the joint is locked, it's hard. So yeah, you want to make sure that roller is pressed against your body and the entire system. All of it. You've got to do it all. And you don't have to do it every day, but at least every other day so you can see what it does. And it's always like this. I could see you shifting a little bit. Like what's going on? I'm shifting, yeah, that roller's on the back. And see now, now it's telling me to move. So I just pick it up. You can put it under your leg. So now I put it under my legs. And it's going to deflect the circulation for a few minutes. You should never do it for a long period of time, just enough to deflect the circulation so that your body calls 911 and says that, you know, there's a circulational blockage. We need extra circulation. That's an autogenic inhibition. That's your body saying, I need to relax so that the circulation can pass through my legs because we're sitting on something. Can we, what is it like one to two minutes or something like that? 30 seconds, autogenic inhibition. I'm doing 30 seconds right now. It starts within 30 seconds. In fact, it starts with touching pressure. As soon as you touch a space, your body's going to react immediately to the pressure. And it's gauging it to forget the amount of pressure we can cause within our system. It's over 2,400 pounds of pressure that our body causes when we make power movements. So just touching you, if you can feel it, it's all your fascist already reacted to it before it gets to your brain. That's how fast. It has to. So in the process of doing that, once you put high pressure, it causes an autogenic inhibition. Your central nervous system reacts, sends more blood to that space, trying to push it open. When you let it go, autogenic inhibition gives you back movement to that space in the visceral area. So I'm doing it right now. And I've never thought to put it under my hamstrings. And as soon as I did, I could feel that side. That's right. My right hamstring sore. And you know what? I just moved it like 20 seconds, 30 seconds. It went away and I moved it a couple of inches down. I'm like, oh, oh, wow, that's still sore over there. But I had no awareness that there was cernus back there other than that tends to be my problem. Consciousness. Consciousness, everybody. You have no consciousness where our pains are and what they're coming from. And now it's gone. That's right. Just like that. That's how fast it works. And it's not with, it just changed the position because you're sliding. That slide principle, you just beat this position and it's not sliding past there. If you keep going, the whole thing will open up and start to slide. And then once it does, you're picking up circulation. You're circulating with spots that are for, this is gas and this is nutrient. If you don't get to this point, you get no fuel. You get no return of energy. People can't understand where their energy is stored. It's in the space of your slide. You can't slide. You're not gonna get any energy and you're gonna walk like a duck the rest of your life. I always explain it. I mean, it's so true. I always explain it like, like you're talking about autogenic inhibition and the circulation of the slide. I always explain it like what this did when I put it under my leg was like a white knuckle, like it totally like this. Exactly. And then as soon as I hold it and I let it go, your body like flushes circulation there. And that's what you're saying is like getting from, I just did that at this point and now I move it to this point. And it's like, now the circulation is flushing through the fashion that's so much water. And everything is, my whole body is, I always got goosebumps on my leg. And that's turn of the river. So you basically hit a position that's before the turn of the river. So you increase pressure to the turn of the river. And now you roll your hands or your feet, it increases the circulation return. That goes straight to your social nervous system. So most people are at a B minus of circulation unless you're an athlete, you're a A minus B plus. Most people are below that situation. They don't know it. They pass out, they get lightheaded, all that kind of crap. That's all related to the fact that your circulation is slow and being pushed too fast or too high and causing your body to react with an adrenal gland influx that blows your mind. You know what's happening too. Oh, and then I'm gonna have some coffee and don't realize that I just drained myself of all the water that I need for those organs. People think that's a good thing. It's good for energy, but it's not good for life because you have to pee out, it's an extension. You're gonna pee water, three cups of water and you need those three ounces of water for your organs. The free space of three ounces, we lose it every day. We don't even know how much we're supposed to drink. I get to ask that question all the time. What was water set to drink? What do you think about intermittent fasting? I mean, come on, be crazy. You're buying these energies. Sleep is intermittent fasting, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Don't skip it after that. That's called break fast for a reason. So, yeah. Oh, that's huge. I totally love weight, said by the way. I had a client come here and we won't say anything but she didn't eat, she did her at seven o'clock and she saw me at 10 and didn't eat but a banana. What do you think's gonna happen? So your fraction's gonna be so upset at you because you didn't think that anything, it needed. So now we're working on what we did last night. I mean, I had a friend who's Muslim. He was fasting for two weeks. Passed out three times, can't figure out what it was. You're pushing yourself to the edge where your body's starting to get really upset about it. I think that's the interesting point right there is because when we come to see you and you are, I like to say, unlocking or unleashing, equalizing, when you're getting these stuck areas that are fascist, as soon as you do that and you follow it where it needs to go and then there's circulation now there, like the whole pass out effect, I was wondering like when you said it, I was like, oh my gosh, that makes sense. All of a sudden there's an area that hasn't had any blood flow and fluid moves. And so where's it coming from? It's coming from other areas because nothing's moving. You're like, whew, I'm gonna pass out this area hasn't needed any, it's needed blood flow, but it hasn't had any and now it needs it because you've released it, I like to say, or equalized it or whatever. Now this flow that's been going like a river, you put a rock in a river and everything moves around it. And now all of a sudden this rock is gone and the river's going right down. And you're like, whew, you need calories for that. You need a fluid, like water, water. That's right, you need some, you're going through the crept cycle, immediately going through the crept cycle because you have no calories for the circulation or increase. You've changed, you've added a new part to the town because it's closed. And now the water is draining from other parts of the city. So now you have to have that full, you have to be ready for a fashion. You can't just do it. People come here all the time. First of all, the first things I ask them is if they ate, because you can pass out from not having that surplus. When it comes back, you'll wait when you get to pass out. So for where you get lightheaded, once it's over, you just go, and it stands you up because that circulation was everybody pulling at the same time, reacting to the fact that it only happens to people in a really bad, only happens to people that are really bad. I did it. I did it because I worked out. But you only got lightheaded. I did get lightheaded, yeah. I worked out the morning. I had a good day. I've done it to myself. I've done it to myself. Yeah. And no one knows. No one knows. That's the scary thing. What I do, most people don't, they have no clue it exists at all. That's the funny thing. No clue. I didn't know. I didn't know when I'm in the industry. Like I took myofascial release as my first class in 19, 2000. I took my first class in myofascial release and I was so hungry for knowledge. I might have been 98 actually, because that's when I moved to San Diego in 97, 98. I didn't even think that I didn't know what I was in for when I saw you. I had no idea. And honestly, it is like, wow. And you're the secret jazz that exists that our bodies can now have this potentials unleashed for pain-free, for health and well-being, for no more headaches, for vitality, for better sleep, Jordan. Like I... Mental too, especially. Yeah. I don't. I mean, I've been through it myself. That's the reason why I think this came to me at this time of my life, because I know what pain is. I've had sciatica. I've had bad knees, bad ankles. And I say had, because I feel the slightest bit of twinge. I know what's causing it. I know where the pressure's coming from. I know why. Before, I was just happy that it released at all. And I just used it. I just kept using it and using it. Then one day something said to me, why are you just using this when you can direct it? So I started directing it and I didn't even go into the head. I was even bothered touching someone's head. So I never went to it. And then I started to realize that I did it on myself and I went, my head changed shapes and I had to actually check myself and then do it again. I used the measuring tapes. I couldn't even believe it myself. And now, within 20 seconds, I can make someone's head shrink to a different size and people, oh, that's the same. But when you say it, it sounds really crazy. If I tell you, like I said, if I tell you a monkey can talk, that makes you sound crazy. But if I show you, it makes you crazy because when people feel it, they go, oh my God, that's insane because that in itself is your central nervous system increased. But the reason you get lightheaded because it's not ready to accept it, that's why you have to free the whole system and the turn of the river. And then it's ready to accept it. And once it's ready to accept it, you get to fly. I work on one leg on purpose or one arm on purpose or one side of someone's head on purpose. So they can actually feel it. Otherwise they'll think that's, oh my God, I feel good. Like I did before, no. Now they go, oh, this one's dragging and this one's flying because that's what fascia does, it's incirculational increase. And if you're below a seat, you should expect to be dizzy or a little bit lightheaded when you work with fascia. But you do it right, you do it every day. You get to laugh at people who do not believe you because it's funny. It's funny that somebody, I get people a small miracle with a roller in and of itself and they still ignore it. They still ignore it. It's amazing. But at some point everyone's gonna go, yeah, they're gonna, the head's gonna explode. That's the thing is it's starting to explode but we're still, we're like, you know, population. People are starting to talk about it in the clinic fascia. I'm hearing it. People are saying fascia all the time. I've never heard patients talk about fascia. I actually stopped mentioning it when I was in New York because people were like freaked out by. You just do the other thing. And I'm like, okay, so I would just kind of sneak it in and they're like, wow, I feel so much better after what you did last time. But I never, I never mentioned it but you were talking about miracles with the roller were with the roller and definitely miracles when someone goes to see you because last this week when I had the setting, I had another like breakthrough in my body when you were working on my foot because his toe had been bothering me for years. It was back. I work on it and it gets good but then you were going up the leg going, oh my gosh, wow, feel this fascia locked in. Oh my God, wow, feel this fascia locked and then this whole like right side why I can't sleep. And I remembered that like in 2008, I drilled my femur into a big rock took a huge chunk out of it which made me walk different which made my toe get super bad arthritis which made me move different over the right side because I remember I told you I never had problems on this ride like ever in my life and you were just working on my foot and I'm thinking, oh, you started it, my knee, I can't remember where you started it but I was thinking, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, that's my knee injury started it and I want people watching this to think about the fact and you said it earlier today how you could like touch the head and work on something different. It's not the sight of the pain often that is the problem. It is sometimes if you bang your knee but all the other things that happened over the 10 years because we don't have any conscious awareness, it goes away. It's weak and then it feels better. Like when you bang a tire and you ignored it. Yeah, that's amazing. Every tire is gonna be screwed up. Your chassis is gonna be screwed up. It's gonna be shaking, doing all kinds of things that it's not supposed to be doing because it doesn't have the mind to ride on the pressure of balance. We're perfect but we have varying degrees of movement that can allow you to go back to that space but if you crush that varying degree and push this far past it, your whole body's coming and the best thing, the funniest thing about crash is that it'll graduate you to a space where you think you're fine. Athletes do it all the time. And oh, he tore his knee because he wasn't even, he just thought he was and I flew on a plane, got off the plane, so on and so on. You can be pulled within that small space. Athletes aren't as much because they're at such a high level of circulation but once the circulation drops, people think that's aging and that is cracked because it's not. Soft tissue doesn't age unless you do not put, do not put it back. It will not age. Say that again. Fascia will not age. As long as you make the soft tissue, keep the soft tissue pliable, it won't age. It won't, it can't because it's structurally designed for your circulation. If you keep the central nervous system flowing, keep it flowing, keep it flowing, the soft tissue keeps flowing. If you shut down the turn of the river or put something in the way, you will screw that up and maybe take a little bit longer for you to get it clear but you can. I'm gonna give a secret. Here's the secret. Most people don't even know this exists that you can roll your head. No one knows that. How do we roll our head? Show us, because I think, I think we probably have like a minute left and I wanna give somebody. Put it on the wall and put your head on it. Before you do it, turn your head left, right. Lift your legs up, raise your arms up and then put this roller against the wall on your forehead, right about here, a little bit between the eyes, turn around here and go up and down side to side for 30 seconds and I guarantee you with my life that everything that you move will improve. Okay, that's a secret. Increase your central nervous system by 2% circulation, somewhere in the area, but just by rolling your head and it doesn't even exist, it doesn't exist. You will not find it anywhere except right here, just now, unless someone else has told someone that I told because as far as I know, and that's one of the things about Frascia that after I figured I had some crazy gifts, I went on the internet and looked straight for almost four years straight, losing my mind, looking for somebody who's doing something. I saw some of the poises crap in life looking through the internet, looking at people's causing themselves, saying that they're doing something that's physical therapy. Insane crap, who knows, they may come together, but it looked crazy to me. Never once did I see anyone doing what I do, except for that guy who does Frascia Trains, I can't remember his name, but he's still so far behind me. It's not even funny in that. That's the why I wake up every day laughing, because all these people are so far behind me and I talk myself. I know. I talk myself, Frascia. You have a gift and there's those people that when I met you, I said that. I said, you have a gift. Like that's the, I use the word, I'm like, what is it like? Guru, there's people that, I know you have knowledge of the body, you're an athlete, you've been an injured athlete, you're a personal trainer, you have this inside knowledge as well. It's 25 years of personal training. Right, but so like, you have that and then you touch your leg and something happens and then you touch that principle's back and then something happens and you're like, I don't know what this is. You meet, we meet people like that every now and then and you're like, oh my gosh, like that book, a mutant message down under. I said that when I first met you, Marlo Morgan wrote the book. I read it when I first moved to San Diego in 97, I was like a traveler and they would, this woman went into the woods with the Aboriginal tribes in Australia somewhere and it's like, she watched somebody have a green stick fractures where the bone breaks through the skin and their medicine man, they have all these people in the tribe came over and didn't even touch the leg and they didn't even touch it. They were like hovering over it and watch that fracture reduce. And so there's these powers that we get, these gifts that we get that you don't know why you got it. This person didn't know why they got it, but it's there. We are mutants. Yes. And so like, I'm so grateful to have been introduced to you and you're awesome mutants. I appreciate it. Trust me. You know, it's been a long time coming, but this space itself, I couldn't figure out why I would even give anything like this. A gift of this power is pretty crazy. I started with that a little bit every day to realize what is the purpose of me having something that's so amazing that when I tell someone, they go, sure, whatever. And then I show them and they freak out. So it's a funny thing, but it's, I feel like the reason is because we need to get to a better space of people understanding who they are. It's like it's not wasting money and wasting time on doing things that they should know when you're four years old, five years old that you need to stay flexible. Get your ass, get your head off the internet because that causes tech neck and it causes you to pull forward and froze the sternum. The sternum is one of our most volatile places in our entire body, just like the pubis and the isium because they're pulling you into the interspace and that's crushing internal organs. Most people have, that's their biggest issue. And I can feel the heart rate. You can feel, as soon as you touch someone, touch these spaces, you can feel the heart rate in between. And if it's going, you can tell something's wrong there. And then slowly your body just starts to move back on its own. There's so many spaces that I've found that I find by accident because the world, the earth is, the body is like the earth. It's that vast. You just think you know it, but she tells, it's crazy. It is, it's something that's still dealing with. I want to know now, if people want to get in touch with you, how is the best way to get in touch with you? You know, it's funny. I've only worked on work and mouse. I've never even taken a client that didn't come from somebody else or myself. Oh yeah. So this was my first time. Yeah. So I mean, people can call me, I guess. I don't know. I, I don't answer the phone anyway. It's a new message. So phone number or my email. Email. Okay. So I think it's court sense. Three. Three, yeah. Number three. Yahoo.com. Email.com. A gmail.com. Okay. So everybody who's watching this, if you want to reach out to, reach out to Jordan. I know you have some YouTube stuff going on a little bit too. Yeah. You can bash an equalizer. Yeah. That's right. That's like old stuff that when I first started realizing I had that I, that's when I just started freaking out and just going to the beach and watching freak out was so much fun. I want to do that again. Because that's the energy of some people with knowledge, frightening. We need to do that. We need to do that. We need to do that. I apologize that I ended the air being a busy time, but I do have the pictures and some videos that I will put in my next show in two weeks for everyone who's watching. Because that'd be great. And Jordan, thank you so much for coming on the show to blow our minds about fashion. This is the tip of the iceberg. I wish the show was too long, but I need to wrap it up. And I just want to say thank you so much. And thank you to Think Tech Hawaii and all of our sponsors and donors for allowing us to host this amazing show today. Life is better when you listen to your physical therapist and life feels better when you get equalized in your life. That's true. Aloha everyone. Thank you so much for watching Think Tech Hawaii. If you like what we do, please like us and click the subscribe button on YouTube and the follow button on Vimeo. You can also follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn, and donate to us at thinktechhawaii.com. Mahalo.